Free Indeed

Who Am I?

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Participants: C.A. Murray (Host), Lemuel Vega (Host), David Singer, Chas Singer

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00:13 I'm Free Indeed.
00:18 When Lemuel Vega, was inmate here
00:20 in that particular house right there so many decades ago.
00:24 He had no idea how God was going to use him and change his life.
00:28 And now that Free Indeed and Christmas Behind Bars
00:30 have come back to this facility, we have no idea how lives
00:34 are going to be changed.
00:36 We just know that when you bring Christ into a place,
00:39 into a life something happens.
00:41 Lives are changed, destinies are rearranged
00:45 and men become free in Christ Jesus.
00:57 Well, and I play in the band and I started,
01:00 I started taking lesson here from a guy at rack,
01:03 spending my life as an introvert,
01:05 anything than being in front of people,
01:07 I mean my first time doing, I mean I was shaken,
01:09 I almost passed out, I was so scared
01:11 and so I began and it made me feel good about myself
01:16 and it made me believe the things were possible.
01:20 I have an older brother and served 20 plus years
01:24 in prison and has many, many more to go but I couldn't
01:29 be prouder of him because of the changes
01:31 that had taken place in his life,
01:33 his faith he has put in Christ
01:36 and the corporeal, the real, the tangible difference
01:41 that it's making in his life and then watching him making
01:45 that same difference in other people's life.
01:47 My childhood was very confusing.
01:51 There was no stability.
01:53 My mom remarried several other times.
01:55 I didn't feel loved so, it was hard
01:57 for me to accept love, and it's hard for me to accept
01:59 Gods love because I was sort of raised where love
02:03 was something you had to earn.
02:04 You either had to be straight A's
02:06 or you got be great in sports or some if you want
02:08 any kind of positive attention.
02:11 You had to do something remarkable for anybody to notice
02:14 you and I didn't really tried that hard,
02:18 I was just-I mean I probably could have more,
02:20 but I spent most of my childhood day dreaming just escaping.
02:24 Yeah, but when I really began to see a change in David's life,
02:29 in a really quick downward and spiral was, you know,
02:32 when he was introduced to alcohol and drugs.
02:36 The things that--he was always a kind of a trouble kid.
02:41 You know, just never felt like he fit in.
02:43 He had friends but you know not a lot of friends
02:45 and that sort of things and so,
02:48 you know, he kind of struggled
02:49 with some of that fitting in.
02:53 But, you know, one thing is that alcoholics
02:56 and druggists everybody fits in.
02:58 you know, if you got money to buy, you're their buddy.
03:01 And so immediately I got all these buddies,
03:03 I get all these friends to get on,
03:05 I'm totally accepted and so he really began,
03:08 really went head over hills into the hole.
03:10 You know, we are talking early 70's
03:14 so the end of the drug culture and of course
03:16 then the inhibitions are just gone.
03:19 There was a party going on and my mom and my step dad
03:23 were out of town and I just, I didn't care anymore.
03:26 I said, I just like I was mad at God,
03:29 you know, and I started getting high
03:31 and once I started that, I mean I took
03:35 to that like a fish to water.
03:37 And before that I was like, I would never drink
03:38 and I was like Mr. Straight, you know, just didn't do,
03:41 I was in the sports and working out
03:43 in school and all that stuff.
03:45 I just went to whole hogged to other direction.
03:47 Just like I don't care about anything anymore
03:49 and so when I finally, I reached a point like after
03:55 I got arrested I was in jail, and I was planning suicide
04:01 and I had money, so I was buying all these,
04:04 they wouldn't give me, they know I was suicidal,
04:06 my warden said, he's suicidal,
04:08 I attempted suicide a couple of time also,
04:10 so they wouldn't give me any antidepressants
04:12 or any of that stuff.
04:13 So I'm buying these antidepressants from other guys,
04:17 so I can sleep plus I'm saving them all,
04:18 my plan was I'm going to go to sensing,
04:21 I want to make my statement, I'm gonna apologize
04:22 for everything, then I'm going to come back
04:24 and life would be over now, I won't feel any more pain.
04:27 I mean I had cursed God out.
04:30 Got mad, looked up at the sky
04:32 and just cursed at Him, told Him, I hated Him.
04:34 I said kill me and stuff, and doing all these crazy things
04:38 and this guy-there was this one person came in,
04:41 he was different than these other guys.
04:42 A lot of guys, you know, jailhouse religion
04:44 and this one guy and he was just different
04:46 and he started talking to me and I said look,
04:49 I said I understand what you are saying.
04:51 I believe in what you said, but I can't
04:53 ask God to forgive me.
04:54 I said, there is no way He could,
04:55 and even though God kept giving me opportunities
04:58 and I kept rejecting them.
05:00 He kept showing me mercy, He never gave up on me
05:03 and I have thanked Him so many times
05:05 to say thank you Lord for never giving up on me.
05:10 God never gives up on us.
05:11 And no matter who you are, what you have done.
05:17 I know that every person has had to have heard that voice inside.
05:23 Who am I, that the lord of all the earth
05:29 Would care to know my name
05:33 Would care to feel my hurt?
05:38 Who am I, that the bright and morning star
05:44 Would choose to light the way
05:48 For my ever wandering heart?
05:54 Not because of who I am
05:58 But because of what you've done
06:01 Not because of what I've done
06:05 But because of who you are
06:10 I am a flower quickly fading
06:14 Here today and gone tomorrow
06:18 A wave tossed in the ocean
06:22 A vapor in the wind
06:26 Still you hear me when I'm calling
06:29 Lord, you catch me when I'm falling
06:33 And you've told me who I am
06:38 I am yours That's right, that's right
06:41 Hallelujah, Hallelujah.
06:44 It seemed like there was times and there was actually
06:47 I can remember a time, you know, God was always
06:50 trying to break through and like I said different times
06:53 I would and there was actually a time before
06:55 I even got arrested,
06:57 you know, while I was going to end up doing that.
06:59 And I would hear God's word so clearly said,
07:02 "Dave, you got to stop, stop now."
07:07 When I would hear I was like... and it was so clear
07:11 and I just and I'd say, man that's right, I got to.
07:14 And then the next day it would be like,
07:16 right back in the same thing but God never stopped.
07:20 That's the thing that amazed me about God is no matter
07:22 how much I rejected Him, every chance
07:25 where I was in a certain state of mind,
07:27 where His voice can get through and I could hear.
07:30 He spoke to me and He tried everyway
07:33 to stop me to make me turn this way,
07:35 turn that way to just, and you know,
07:39 I look back at all those times when I would only listen.
07:42 If I would only just, because He was right,
07:44 He is always right.
07:54 Who am I, that the eyes that see my sins
08:00 Would look on me with love
08:03 And watch me rise again?
08:09 Who am I, that the voice who calmed the sea
08:15 Would call out through the rain
08:18 And calm the storm in me
08:24 Not because of who I am
08:28 But because of what you've done
08:31 Not because of what I've done
08:35 But because of who you are
08:40 I am a flower quickly fading
08:44 Here today and gone tomorrow
08:48 A wave tossed in the ocean
08:52 A vapor in the wind
08:55 Still you hear me when I'm calling
08:59 Lord, you catch me when I'm falling
09:03 And you've told me who I am
09:08 I am yours
09:20 The day my life changed,
09:23 it wasn't like I went to all church
09:25 that the sinners pray and do other things like people.
09:27 I just said, God you really forgive me.
09:31 And there is a resounding yes,
09:32 and I heard His voice so clear, Yes.
09:35 It's all he could wait for me to do as you say,
09:37 can you really and my life began to change,
09:41 you know, because I realized God borrows
09:45 my mind because after all I had is,
09:47 I'm still here for you, I still love you,
09:50 that makes no sense to me, no logic or sense.
09:56 Not because of who I am
09:59 But because of what you've done
10:03 Not because of what I've done
10:07 But because of who you are
10:11 I am a flower quickly fading
10:16 Here today and gone tomorrow
10:20 A wave tossed in the ocean
10:24 A vapor in the wind
10:26 Still you hear me when I'm calling
10:30 Lord, you catch me when I'm falling
10:34 And you've told me who I am
10:39 I am yours
10:41 I am a flower quickly fading
10:45 Here today and gone tomorrow
11:08 I am yours
11:12 I am yours
11:16 I am yours
11:19 I am yours
11:23 Whom shall I fear?
11:25 Whom shall I fear?
11:28 'Cause I am yours
11:31 Whom shall I fear?
11:33 Whom shall I fear?
11:34 'Cause I am yours
11:38 Whom shall I fear?
11:40 God is in my life
11:42 Jesus does it through me
11:44 Whom shall I fear?
11:45 Whom shall I fear?
11:47 'Cause I am yours
12:16 I am yours Hallelujah.
12:25 I don't know how much time I have,
12:27 so I want to just share a little secret text,
12:32 it's one of those shouting kind of text
12:34 when you really understand it.
12:36 It doesn't look like much of a text.
12:38 If you have a Bible, go to Hebrews 11,
12:46 and I'm gonna start with verse 40 then I'm gonna backup,
12:50 then I'm gonna go forward, then I'll back up some more,
12:51 I'll go forward some more.
12:53 Hebrews 11:40, doesn't look like much of a text,
12:58 till you play with it just a little bit.
13:00 Let's pray Father God,
13:02 we need You to speak to us again.
13:04 You spoke into us so eloquently this morning through the music
13:08 and the testimonies but we want You to speak to us just,
13:13 just one more time and we promise Lord
13:17 that we will hear and we will
13:20 do in Jesus' name. Amen.
13:26 I'm-- well let's look
13:31 at verse 39, Hebrews 11:39. "
13:34 All these, having obtained a good testimony,
13:38 I mean in the New King James, through faith,
13:41 did not received the promise.
13:45 God having provided something better for us,
13:50 that they should not be made perfect apart from us."
13:55 It's a nice little text till you realize where it sits.
14:01 Now let's go on to Chapter 12.
14:04 "Therefore we also, since we are surrounded
14:07 by so great a cloud of witnesses,
14:11 let us lay aside every weight,
14:13 and sin which so easily ensnares us."
14:18 Now, you may have beset us, depending upon your translation.
14:22 "And let us run with patience or endurance
14:27 the race that is set before us."
14:31 Now, to get the context for 39 and 40 you got to back up,
14:35 so let's back up to verse 32
14:38 this how you study the Bible, find the context.
14:44 So, Paul is saying to the Hebrews
14:46 "And what more shall I say?
14:50 For the time would fail me to tell you of Gedeon
14:53 and Barak and Samson and Jephthah also of David,
14:56 and Samuel, and the prophets,
14:58 who through faith subdued kingdoms,
15:02 worked righteousness, obtained promises,
15:04 stopped the mouths of lions, quenched the violence of fire,
15:08 escaped the edge of the sword,
15:10 out of weakness were made strong,
15:11 became valiant in battle,
15:14 turned to flight the armies of aliens.
15:17 Women received their dead raised to life again.
15:19 Others tortured, not accepting deliverance
15:22 that they might obtain a better resurrection.
15:24 Still others had trial of mocking and scourging, yes,
15:28 of chains and imprisonment."
15:29 This is tough stuff they went through.
15:33 "They were stoned, they were sawn in two,
15:37 were tempted, were slain with the sword.
15:40 They wandered about n sheepskins and goatskins,
15:44 being destitute, afflicted,
15:46 tormented of whom the world was not worthy.
15:55 They wandered in deserts and mountains,
15:57 in dens and caves of the earth.
16:00 And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith,
16:05 did not receive the promise."
16:08 Now what is the promise?
16:10 Well you got to back up to verse 16.
16:16 Same Chapter Hebrew 11:16.
16:19 "But now they desire a better,
16:24 that is, a heavenly country.
16:28 Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God."
16:32 Now let's stop right there.
16:33 That nobody in here this morning who is in here because
16:38 you stole paper clips from your boss. Amen. Amen.
16:45 If you are in here, you are in a maximum security institution
16:50 because you did a little something
16:52 more than steal paper clips, amen.
16:57 And yet God is saying,
17:00 I'm not ashamed of you.
17:05 Your family may be ashamed, your friends may be ashamed
17:09 but God says, I'm not ashamed.
17:13 I'm not ashamed we called you a God
17:16 because you are not ashamed of me.
17:20 So I'm not ashamed of you, in fact I love you,
17:24 because you are not ashamed of me.
17:27 So, the promise Christ says Revelation 22:12,
17:32 "Behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me."
17:36 What's the reward?
17:38 Well, it's right here.
17:41 "For he, I'm in verse 16,
17:44 has prepared a city for them."
17:49 That's the promise.
17:52 The promise is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
17:55 Now, go back to 11:1.
18:00 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for,
18:02 the evidence of things not seen.
18:05 For it the elders obtained a good testimony."
18:08 Then you got what we call the wall of faith,
18:11 the hall of faith, the super hero list of faith.
18:15 "By faith Abel, I'm in verse 4, verse 5 "By faith Enoch."
18:21 Then that great text "Without faith it is impossible
18:26 to please Him, for he who comes to God
18:28 must believe one that He is, and two that He is a rewarder
18:33 of those who diligently seek Him."
18:35 So you need both, first you got to believe
18:36 that when you fall in your knees and talk to God,
18:39 there is somebody up there on the other end of your prayer
18:42 who is listening for you.
18:45 Then you got to believe not only does He hear you,
18:47 but that He will honor and listen
18:50 to your prayers, so you need both.
18:51 You got to believe that He is and that He cares. Amen.
18:55 All righty. Then, "By faith Noah,
18:59 By faith Abraham, By faith I'm in verse 11 Sarah.
19:07 These all died in faith, I'm in verse 13
19:10 not having received the promise."
19:13 17, "By faith Abraham."
19:18 20, "By faith Isaac."
19:20 22, "By faith Joseph."
19:22 21 "By faith Jacob."
19:23 23, "By faith Moses."
19:28 It's going down, going down, going down,
19:30 "By faith of rehab, by faith the wall of Jericho,
19:34 by faith they passed through Red Sea.
19:38 And then he says I talked about that what more can I say?
19:41 These are great men who have done great things.
19:45 Then comes this little text.
19:47 "All these, having obtained a good testimony through faith,
19:52 did not receive the promise."
19:54 All of these people, who did all of these
19:57 great things didn't get the promise.
19:58 What's the promise?
20:00 Promise is eternal life in heaven.
20:02 Now, here is the text you need to underline 40.
20:07 "But God having provided something better for us,
20:15 that they should not be made perfect apart from us."
20:19 You note what that little text is saying?
20:21 As good as Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Rehab,
20:26 as good as all of those were, God has made you a promise.
20:31 They are not going to get theirs before you get yours.
20:36 That's what that text is saying.
20:43 He is saying, look at how great
20:45 these people were, look at all of the wonderful
20:48 stop lion's jaws, defeated armies,
20:51 took down kings, did great things for the Lord.
20:59 But here is your promise?
21:01 They are not going to get theirs before you get yours. Amen.
21:06 God has provided, that's how much God loves you
21:10 in Jesus all of these haven't doubted
21:13 in their faith didn't get in heaven.
21:15 So on today you get yours they will get theirs
21:20 and not one day before.
21:22 Amen, that's powerful, that's powerful.
21:26 That's God's guarantee of His love for you.
21:30 You didn't sit in anybody's lions' den.
21:35 Anybody been in a fiery furnace, or sometimes you like
21:38 you're in a fiery furnace,
21:40 you know, but you haven't been in a fiery furnace.
21:44 But Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego,
21:47 while their real names are Hananiah,
21:48 and Azariah and Mishael, and Shadrach,
21:50 Meshach is a Chaldean name.
21:53 They are not going to get their before you get yours.
21:56 God has provided something better,
21:58 that we all going to get it together. Amen.
22:02 That's how much God respects your love for Him.
22:07 So Christ says, "If your are not ashamed of me,
22:08 I'm not going to be ashamed of you before My Father."
22:10 And then God says, "I'm not going
22:11 to be ashamed to be your God."
22:15 I'll tell the universe, those are my children.
22:19 They belong to me.
22:21 Now let me close with just a sermon I heard a little story
22:24 I heard in the seminary
22:27 and I have carried it all these years.
22:33 There was a farmer who lived on a farm,
22:38 his wife had died,
22:40 children had grown up, moved away.
22:42 So he had this fairly big farm,
22:45 lot of animals but for some reason
22:48 he had a pet goat that he just seemed to bond with.
22:56 He had a dog and the dog was nice
22:58 but there is something about this goat,
22:59 so he would leave food at the back door
23:01 and everyday like clock work at 4 o'clock
23:05 this goat would come,
23:06 eat food and it was just the goat,
23:09 following him around and helping him out on the farm,
23:11 he just, just kind of like this goat.
23:15 He had a well on the farm that had dried up and really
23:22 he needed to fill it in with dirt.
23:26 But you know sometimes you make a pledge to yourself,
23:28 I'm going to do it but you never get around
23:29 to do in it so just kind off sits there,
23:31 you know, year after year kind of sits here.
23:33 He had fenced it often, the sheep didn't stay
23:36 in their pasture, the cow stayed in pasture,
23:38 but this goat had to run in the farm and he said,
23:40 you know I need to fill in that well because one day
23:44 this nosey goat, is going to nose around
23:46 and fall on it, I think hurt himself
23:48 and he meant to do it but he never did it.
23:50 So, one day on a weekend, he put the food out
23:53 there and 4 o'clock comes and no goat,
23:56 4:30, 5, 5:30, quarter to 6, no goat.
23:59 He said, let me go and look into,
24:00 so he looks all over the farm can't find him.
24:03 And he says, now, let me go look down this well,
24:09 just in case and sure enough he shines his flashlight down
24:12 there at the bottom of the well is the goat.
24:16 And he said, you know, I should have,
24:18 I should have taken care of that long ago.
24:22 So now he get his tractor and he says,
24:24 this well would be his tomb,
24:27 I'll just bury it and do now
24:30 what I should have done years ago.
24:33 So he turns on the engine and he is beginning
24:36 to dump the dirt down, but you know
24:37 the goat wasn't dead, just had been stunned
24:42 by the depth of the fall.
24:49 So basically now he is burying his pet goat alive,
24:55 but you know that goat had been around humans a long,
24:57 that goat was no fool.
25:00 He knew a couple of things, so every time a shovel full
25:05 of dirt came down, the goat would shake it off
25:12 and pack it down. Amen.
25:18 He just shake it off, pack it down,
25:23 and every time he shook it off and packed it down,
25:27 he rose up a little higher.
25:32 It just shake it off and pack it down,
25:35 rose up a little higher.
25:39 And after a while he got up high enough
25:43 that he could be heard and rescued. Amen.
25:48 Now, I taught about that story from years ago in a seminary
25:53 because it's talking about goats
25:54 but it's really respecting humans.
25:58 In your life you go and meet people
26:03 who want to throw dirt on your aspirations.
26:06 They gonna tell you, you can't do it,
26:08 you're too old, you're too dumb,
26:11 you're too black, you're too white,
26:13 you're too fat, you're too thin,
26:14 you're too stupid whatever.
26:17 Why should you carry around
26:19 the weight of their disappointment?
26:24 Why should you be saddled with their dirt?
26:27 When people try to heap dirt on you,
26:29 shake it off, pack it down,
26:35 you rise up a little higher. Amen.
26:37 Amen. I'll carry that dirt?
26:46 I'll carry that dirt?
26:49 Shake it off, pack it down and you rise up a little higher,
26:55 you rise up in your heart, you rise up in your mind,
26:59 you rise up in your soul, and you get so high
27:03 all you can see is Jesus.
27:06 You can't see anybody else, I say pause, pause it,
27:10 I'm determined to know nothing.
27:12 I don't want to know your dirt say Jesus Christ
27:17 and him crucified. Amen.
27:22 So, when they tell you can't,
27:23 listen the next time they tell you,
27:26 you can't tell them, oh, yes I can.
27:30 The next time they tell you that you won't yeah I will.
27:36 Amen. Shake if off, pack it down,
27:40 and rise up a little higher. God Bless you.
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