Participants: Rico Hill (Host), Thomas Jackson, Camille Clark, Yvonne Lewis
Series Code: FSH
Program Code: FSH000024A
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00:02 Friendly fire.
00:04 That's what took place in Judges chapter 7 and verse 22. 00:08 The Bible says: "And the 300 blew the trumpets 00:12 and the Lord set every man's sword against his fellow... 00:16 even throughout all the host. " 00:19 Oh... imagine that! Gideon and his army 00:22 had instilled so much fear in the enemy 00:25 that they turned on themselves with the sword. 00:29 In a military battle when the army fights against itself 00:32 and wounds its fellow soldiers it's called friendly fire. 00:36 Hello and welcome to From Sickness To Health. 00:39 I'm your host Rico Hill 00:41 and this is the blue guy. So what's wrong with a little 00:45 friendly fire? If it's friendly, what's the problem? 00:49 Well... when it's a battle people die. 00:51 And when it's with your health well people get a little sick... 00:55 Sick... Go on and say it! 01:00 They end up with me: Sickness. 01:03 AND... who's friendlier than me? 01:05 Well I can think of about a few thousand people 01:07 but that's not the point. 01:09 The point is today's topic is autoimmune diseases: 01:12 when the body begins to attack itself. 01:15 You mean the body keeps attacking itself? 01:18 This is genius! Like rheumatoid arthritis 01:22 and lupus and type 1 diabetes. 01:25 Oh... so amazing. 01:27 Ah... a perpetual state of sickness. 01:30 Yeah... just think about it. I mean, it's like 01:33 you get it started and it keeps going... 01:36 you just back away. Rico: back away. 01:40 It's like the gift that keeps on giving. 01:44 Just back away. Well I tell you what: 01:48 we're not going to have any friendly fire here! 01:51 You stick around. We're going to show you how you can 01:53 return that gift and get your health back. 01:57 Just back away... Roll it! 02:31 If you have just joined us here in the studio of 02:33 From Sickness To Health, welcome. We're glad that 02:36 you're here. We have a wonderful program for you today. 02:39 I'm going to share with you some of the wonderful people 02:42 who are joining us to talk about autoimmune disease. 02:44 But before we do that we want to say hello 02:47 to our friend, our colleague, our co-host Sickness 02:50 who is somewhere. He's remote. How are you today? 02:53 Still backing away. All right... OK. 02:57 We're going to turn to... We're not going to back away 03:00 from you guys. Dr. Yvonne Lewis is here with us. 03:04 She's a naturopathic doctor, also the general manager 03:07 here of Dare to Dream network. And we welcome you 03:09 back to the program. Great to be here! Thank you. 03:12 Dr. Thomas Jackson: you're here again. 03:13 We're happy to have you here. Now Dr. Jackson is a doctor of 03:17 natural health sciences and he is also the speaker/director 03:21 of M.E.E.T. Ministry in Huntingdon, Tennessee. 03:23 Thank you for being here again. Oh, it has been my pleasure 03:26 to be here. Ah, good, good, good. My pleasure. 03:29 And sitting to his right is Dr. Camille Clark. 03:32 Dr. Camille Clark is a... she's specializing in 03:35 internal medicine, and she is here to help us out on this 03:38 topic. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having me. 03:41 Wonderful, wonderful. Now... before we get started 03:44 we're going to talk about this subject of autoimmune disease. 03:46 We heard a little bit about it in the introduction 03:48 and we saw that the body begins to fight itself. 03:52 Now this means that your body is functioning fine. 03:56 The immune system is working but it has, as we're going to 04:00 find out, it has targeted the wrong thing - your own 04:03 organs and tissues - and it brings terrible inflammation 04:07 and issues for a lot of people. 04:09 But we want to get some help for you today 04:12 and I think our expert panel is going to do that. 04:15 But let's go to Sickness and hear what he's got cooked up. 04:19 Thanks Rico. I'm here in the kitchen 04:21 in a fierce battle. This is not a drill. 04:25 I repeat: this is NOT a drill. 04:28 You do not want to be here. 04:32 You see, it all started with a few friendly games 04:35 here in the kitchen but now it's turned into a deadly war. 04:41 This guy really wants to take me out. 04:45 And here's the thing: he's so evil. 04:48 He's pure evil. 04:56 Oh hi Rico. As you can see I'm in an all-out war 05:00 but I've got this guy right up against the ropes. 05:05 You see, a little game of friendly fire is going to 05:08 bring him to his knees. 05:10 And there's a secret weapon I've got. You see, mentally 05:13 he's already beat. He thinks genetics 05:16 determines destiny... but that's not true. 05:20 You see, a lot of people think that just because your mom 05:23 and dad had the disease you're going to get it too. 05:26 Not true at all! 05:29 The secret is: genetics loads the gun; 05:33 lifestyle pulls the trigger. 05:36 So let's take for instance something like not getting 05:40 enough sunshine, 05:44 not sleeping, 05:47 not exercising, 05:50 or not getting enough water. 05:54 But you know there's one more thing that's absolutely 05:58 my personal favorite. It's when we think we can eat 06:04 whatever we want as often as we want. 06:15 Well that is definitely an interesting way to look at that. 06:19 Well, he makes a good point. He does! 06:21 He talked about the lifestyle disease or autoimmune disease 06:27 coming from the very basic and simple things that 06:30 we neglect every day like water, sunshine, 06:33 exercise, getting enough rest, right? 06:35 And, which leads to... Oh, how about the nutrition? 06:40 That's a big one, right? We've got to talk about that. 06:43 It was a big gun! It's a big gun. That's a big gun! Right. 06:46 All of the other ones are important too, but that's a 06:48 really big gun because mentally people don't think their food 06:51 affects them in that way. That's right. 06:53 So I want to hear from you guys; talk about that. 06:55 I want to get a little greater perspective, though, because 06:58 there's a video - a newsclip - that really gets into this 07:01 and I think it lays out the foundation of this 07:03 in a really special way. So let's take a look at that 07:05 video clip as well. 07:09 So for example with type I diabetes 07:11 you're going to see our immune system will go after 07:14 the pancreas and that's how you get diabetes. 07:16 But autoimmune disease... I think it should be changed 07:18 to syndrome because it's not one disease. 07:20 Between celiac disease, ulcerative colitis, 07:23 thyroiditis, and on and on. Fibromyalgia, lupus, 07:27 rheumatoid arthritis. There's a whole series of autoimmune 07:31 that everybody wanted to hear and that's why we're doing this. 07:33 The ideology and cause behind this could be viral. 07:37 People have talked about Epstein-Barr virus 07:39 could be bacterial. Could be some of these heavy metals 07:41 that we have in lipsticks and all these other things. 07:44 Or it could be the toxic food that we have... that we use. 07:47 We'll talk about some of this. What do doctors do? 07:49 When they come to me - I don't see a lot of them - but Mark, 07:52 they usually give steroids and they want to reduce 07:54 the amount of inflammation. That's temporary. That's only 07:57 taking care of the symptoms. But the truth is that our diet 08:00 is not so healthy and we talk about sugar. 08:02 I made a list of the things that people need to know, 08:04 so I'll go through this really fast. Just so... New treatments: 08:08 you need to get rid of dairy foods. Dairy: cheese, milk, 08:11 and other things causes endotoxin, causes increase in 08:14 autoimmune. Get rid of trans fat. 08:16 Mark has talked about this. No gluten... which I know Jamie 08:19 agrees with that. Get rid of sugar. 08:21 No red meat and no processed food, fast food... you know, 08:27 fried food. But what we want to stick to 08:30 is healthy vegetables and fruits. Add turmeric to your diet 08:33 which reduces inflammation and go to olive oil. And finally 08:36 vitamin D. Wow! This is probably new information 08:40 to a lot of you. So we're going to turn to our 08:42 distinguished panel of experts 08:45 and we're going to make some sense of all this. 08:47 One of the things that... you notice what he said. 08:50 He said: "It treats the symptoms. " Um-hmm. 08:53 Now you don't normally hear doctors say that. Yes. 08:56 Right doctor? Doctors? 08:58 So what do you think about this? This is some truth 09:01 that's just come out here! That's true. Um-hmm. 09:03 So, you don't normally treat... So have we gotten into 09:07 this perpetual thing of treating symptoms and not 09:09 dealing with the issue? Right. Exactly. 09:10 Not looking at the core... not looking at the cause - 09:14 um-hmm - but managing the symptoms. Right. 09:16 And if we can get to the root cause of the issue 09:19 then we can... The symptoms are going to fall in line 09:22 once you get to the root cause. 09:24 And I love the fact that he was bringing out - 09:27 there's hope - lifestyle changes that you can make 09:29 to actually get to the root cause of the issue. 09:32 There's an expression I have: "the cure is in the cause. " 09:38 Oh, come on... I like that. 09:40 The cure is in the cause because Proverbs 26:2 says: 09:43 "The curse causes should not come. " 09:46 So that means for every effect, every symptom, there's a cause. 09:49 So where is the cure? It's in the cause. 09:51 We find the cause, remove the cause, we have the cure. 09:54 Oh, isn't that simple? It's great. 09:57 You're not really just giving something that is his own 10:01 thought, that's really the Bible. That's right. 10:03 Notice he went to Proverbs 26 verse 2 which says: 10:05 "Disease does not come without a cause. " That's right. 10:08 Brilliant. The Bible is brilliant, isn't it? 10:11 Amen! That's why I'm smart... 'cause I read the Bible. 10:15 'Cause you read the Bible. 10:17 You know, because you know what? Not because of the school. 10:20 Some people can read it, but making application... 10:22 that's absolutely true... making application. 10:25 "My people perish for lack of knowledge. " That's true. 10:27 And using that knowledge that comes from God. That's true. 10:29 So it's the symptom that we've been focusing on, 10:32 but this doctor... he laid it out on television 10:36 and said: "You know what? We're dealing with symptoms 10:39 rather than the cause. " And the big thing that he pointed out 10:42 was the diet. The diet. And he listed a few things. 10:45 Now if we were to let that continue on 10:49 the anchor said: "Hey, do you agree with him? " 10:54 And the other doctor was a little like: "Well, you know. " 10:58 Because it's really difficult to tell people that not only 11:02 is it dairy, cheese, milk. Not only is it 11:06 red meat or processed food but it's all these things that 11:09 we love! That's right. Right? 11:12 So what are some of the other things? Oh, by the way, 11:15 I know you have a testimony because rheumatoid arthritis 11:18 was mentioned there. That's right. But there are some people 11:20 out there who are watching this program 11:23 and they're suffering. They're suffering from colitis; 11:26 they're suffering from Crohn's disease, celiac disease, 11:29 and they cannot find relief. 11:32 And mainly because they are just getting the steroids. 11:35 That's right. Right? I just want to put a little bit 11:38 of a backdrop on this whole discussion about autoimmunity. 11:41 So as was kind of mentioned your immune system is your 11:44 body's defense mechanism. It will fight diseases 11:47 and then autoimmunity comes when you're fighting against 11:49 yourself. And there are a lot of different examples. 11:51 So as was mentioned before you may have thyroid problems - 11:54 we actually see this a lot in females and then 11:57 in minorities as well - but like Hashimoto's or Graves' disease. 12:01 Lupus was mentioned as well 12:03 and celiac and all of these type of things. 12:06 So while the genetic component exists, and that's why 12:10 we definitely ask someone: "What is your family history? 12:13 Did your mom have this? Did your brother have this? " 12:15 so that we can get a bit of a backdrop as to what they may be 12:19 predisposed to there are these other factors. 12:22 So as he mentioned in the video you can have the viruses 12:25 that can trigger that. You can have a lifestyle that 12:27 actually propels it. And so there's this interesting 12:29 phenomenon of epigenetics, and that's things outside 12:32 of your genetic DNA that can influence the expression 12:37 of things that may already be there... already exist 12:40 and kind of propel it so that it starts this reaction 12:45 of inflammation. Yeah. Now you're absolutely right: 12:47 I think this is one of the fields in medicine where 12:50 we're learning, we're growing and all the answers 12:52 definitely are not there. So in terms of treatment 12:55 steroids kind of mask and calm down a lot of the inflammation 12:59 so that you can live. However, when you're talking about 13:02 getting over the illness 13:05 and going back to a better state of life 13:09 because it's so complicated you can do immunomodulating 13:13 therapies where you're trying to depress your body's immune 13:17 reaction so that... Is that healthy? 13:19 So it's a set up. I mean, you're trying to do that 13:23 so you're not attacking yourself but you're also 13:25 putting yourself at increased risk. Risk of other things! 13:28 Yes. And that's why these other things are so important. 13:33 For instance, people with multiple sclerosis... 13:35 what do you tell them? Well... the exercise. 13:38 Your food. Things to stay away from. 13:40 All of these lifestyle factors. Just to kind of put into 13:43 perspective what is being done. Why it is being done. 13:46 And also the other elements that we need to keep in mind 13:49 so that we're not just masking an inflammatory process 13:53 but actually dealing with the cause. 13:56 And you used a word there: epigenetics. 13:59 And looking into some of that we see that that's how the genes 14:03 themselves express themselves 14:06 based on things that we introduce into the system. 14:09 Epigenetics. It's really kind of the scientific term 14:13 for genetics or heredity loads the gun 14:17 but your lifestyle pulls the trigger, right? 14:19 So that's the scientific term for that. 14:21 Rico, I have a comment on that. OK. 14:25 I just want to say that I completely agree: 14:28 it is all about your genetics. I agree with both of you 14:31 so people can stop stressing out. It's all genes. 14:34 No, no, no... that's not what we said, is it? 14:37 No! Now you gave a very balanced perspective. 14:40 Epi comes from the Greek word which means outside of 14:43 your genes, so... 14:45 Thank you for that; thank you for that. We have to get into 14:47 a word study. I think Sickness has selective hearing. 14:51 But you know, when people are sick... It's interesting: when 14:54 people are sick and they're sick as a result of their diet 14:57 and their lifestyle they tend to have selective hearing. 15:00 Because you can share wonderful information - that's true - 15:03 and they continue to go about things that are actually 15:05 harming them. That's right. Is that right? That's right. 15:07 So we want to really give a real balanced perspective. 15:11 So thank you for that... for giving that perspective. 15:13 So we see that you have to look at that family history. 15:16 You've got to understand what may be in your genes. 15:20 But I have seen that something like 75% of a lot of the 15:25 lifestyle diseases are preventable. Um-hmm. 75%. 15:29 So there is that 25% where it is solidly in 15:34 your genetics, right? Predisposition you might say. 15:38 Yes, yes. Where we understand unless 15:41 definitely there is an abnormality where it might cause 15:44 structural brain damage. But with this autoimmune... 15:49 With my situation when I was clinically diagnosed at the age 15:52 of 17 moving to rheumatoid arthritis. As I always share 15:56 this story. So from 17 to 27 that condition really escalated 16:01 when I went to college then when I was pursuing 16:04 a professional career. And so the doctor said definitely 16:07 there was no known cause. No cause? No cause! 16:11 That's #1. Number 2: there is no remedy. 16:14 And #3: you have to be on drugs for the rest of your life. 16:17 So there was also no hope - there was no hope - according 16:20 to his diagnosis... to his understanding. 16:23 And so there I'm taking drugs... anti-inflammatory drugs... 16:26 and my body became so desensitized to them 16:29 they lost their effect on my body. 16:31 So there were other things I had to resort to just to deal with 16:34 that situation. My condition was so worse 16:37 it not only stopped my career as a professional basketball 16:40 player but it kept me out of the Vietnam War. 16:42 So during that time - which I was elated over that - 16:45 and because hey, you know... the Army didn't want me, 16:48 I sure didn't want them either. 16:50 But I'm going to tell you believe it or not 16:52 when I began to just go through the Word of God... 16:57 When I mentioned about the curse caused it... 16:58 When we deal with autoimmune as was already stated, the body 17:01 immune system begins to turn on its own tissue 17:04 and we find inflammatory reaction. 17:07 And one of the things that I find, too: that the body 17:10 has to deal with metabolizing a lot of protein. 17:12 If the body does not metabolize protein, the protein becomes 17:15 offensive. Um-hmm. You follow me? 17:18 And then I remember reading some inspired writing 17:21 and it says: "Digestion is the foundation of the 17:24 human... of the body. " And so digestion - the way 17:28 we process food, the way we digest food - 17:30 also will either prevent these autoimmune reactions 17:37 or can also help to deal with these autoimmune 17:41 because #1, when we talk about virus/bacteria we also 17:44 talk about the body's inability to deal with protein. 17:48 Then we're dealing with inner city. We're dealing with people 17:50 of color also: African descent - lactose intolerance. 17:54 You know, dealing with cow's milk... which basically 17:57 none of us were designed to drink cow's milk in the first 17:59 place. Wait a minute. That's a big statement, Doc! 18:01 Well, we go on. You take that... You know, human... 18:06 The best milk is mama's milk, OK? 18:09 And you find the protein percentage in mama's milk is 18:12 probably 1.3%. Cow's milk is three times larger than that. 18:16 And so it takes a baby 120 days to double its birth weight. 18:22 In a calf it only takes 47 days. 18:24 So therefore it needs more protein! Because it's 18:27 the protein within that species designed for that species. 18:31 And it makes sense. Logically that calf needs to get up 18:34 and "run with the herd... " otherwise it's going to be 18:36 preyed upon. So our food chain has changed 18:39 in a high consumption of protein foods not able... 18:42 After a certain period of time hydrochloric acid decreases 18:45 in our body. Um-hmm. And a new phenomenon 18:48 comes up: what they call the "leaky gut syndrome. " 18:50 You've probably heard of that. But the fact is, when I read 18:53 these statements... Our digestive systems can become 18:56 so inflamed, so irritated, that where protein leaks out, 19:02 leaks into our bloodstream. Um-hmm. 19:04 And the fact is we talk about here MS. 19:06 You know, I work with people with MS. 19:08 We find that essential fatty acid... 19:10 we're talking about not getting - some breast fed - 19:15 we're talking about vaccinations. These factors 19:19 definitely overpower the body to the point where the body's 19:22 trying to defend itself so it attacks the tissue. 19:24 Now what happened to me... one thing. 19:27 This has been over... Now I don't have rheumatoid arthritis 19:30 no more. No more? A 10-year battle ended within one year. 19:35 Why? What made a difference in you? 19:38 And I was not a Christian. I'm saying this very clear: 19:41 I was not a Christian, but because I grew up with a mother 19:43 who believed in God, and after my career ended 19:46 I became so depressed and angry that I thought about the Bible. 19:49 So I picked up the Word of God looking for hope. 19:52 But I went on a journey through the Bible, not only finding 19:55 Christ in the Bible but I found the cause of 19:58 my rheumatoid arthritis. What was the cause? 19:59 #1 we go back: the curse cause should not come. 20:02 You remember that? Proverbs 26:2. 20:04 Joel 29:16 says: "A cause I knew not; I search it out. " 20:07 And so one of my favorite texts: "The life of the flesh 20:10 is in the blood. " Um-hmm. OK? 20:13 Then I read in Leviticus 7: "No fat... no blood. " 20:16 No fat... no blood. OK? 20:18 Genesis 9:3-5: "Every animal whose life you take 20:22 I require your life. " So I said: "Well why not... 20:24 Why do you prohibit blood? " 20:26 "Why do you prohibit fat? " 20:28 And so... Remember, I'm not a theologian 20:31 but I began to do some research and I found within the blood... 20:34 Bringing out a point: within the blood of the animal 20:38 I found this protein or this chemical called purine. 20:42 Purine. The byproduct of purine is uric acid. 20:47 So the body's got to get rid of that. And so the fact is 20:50 I began to create inflammation in my body. 20:52 All right? And so I began to do a little more studying on this 20:56 this protein molecule. And I found out that my body was not 21:00 metabolizing... so I really needed to get rid of that 21:02 purine. And so I began to eliminate all of the animal 21:05 protein out of my body. 21:07 I found I was dehydrated. 21:08 Isaiah 44:12; Ezekiel 4:6. 21:11 I was not drinking enough water. 21:12 I found out number one: all the dairy, all the cheese... 21:16 Cheese contains tyramine. 21:18 You find that that even affects the central nervous system. 21:21 And so as I began to remove and replace those things out of... 21:24 replace those things with better food - 21:26 more plant-based diet - 21:28 more water... The dairy: I eliminated that. 21:31 I was a sugarholic. A sugarholic? 21:33 I used to eat sugar sandwiches. 21:35 I would take "Wonder dead... " I mean white bread... 21:39 and I would take butter and put it in a skillet - uh-huh - 21:42 and put sugar. And if you're rich you put 21:45 a little cinnamon on the white bread... sugar sandwiches. 21:47 Um-hmm. So once I followed those principles 21:50 I began to find the cause... Eliminate the protein 21:54 that was causing my problem here. 21:56 I began to do... I was exercising already. 21:59 I was not... I was stressed out. 22:00 So once I began to apply these principles... 22:03 My wife, when I told her... 22:05 like I told you, we've been married over 42 years... 22:07 when I told my wife I'm making these changes she said: 22:09 "You're gonna die; you're crazy! " 22:11 So for two years we ate out of separate pots. 22:15 But within 6 months to a year 22:17 my condition was totally reversed. 22:19 I used to predict the weather. Because of the barometric? 22:22 The barometric pressure would affect. Diet, to me... my... 22:26 my folk had rheumatoid arthritis. My PEOPLE had this. 22:30 Go back down the chain... they have this. 22:33 Goes back to the diet, etc... the lifestyle. Um-hmm. 22:37 And so once I dealt with that lifestyle and began to replace 22:40 those type of foods and dealt with my stress 22:43 my condition was totally reversed as of today. 22:48 Wow! That's autoimmune. I've seen people with MS. 22:52 Not all cases. I've seen people in a wheelchair get up and walk 22:56 as a result of the plan. Fibromyalgia. 22:58 So you're saying to someone out here 23:01 that if they make these lifestyle changes 23:04 they too can overcome whatever the autoimmune 23:09 issue is in their life? I'm saying this: 23:11 that again... search out the cause... search out the cause. 23:15 Leave this up to God but I'm saying 23:17 that they have greater advantages 23:21 either to reverse it or reducing that problem. 23:26 With cases I've dealt with I've seen allergies. 23:30 We've worked with lupus. Now I'm working for a young... 23:33 See lupus normally used to affect women - black women - 23:35 and now I've just seen three men with lupus 23:40 and now one is a 14-year-old young man. 23:44 Wow... wow! And when I trace his diet 23:47 and his lifestyle it's the cow's milk; it's the sugar; 23:50 it's the cheese. The whole... And doctors continue to treat 23:53 him with anti-inflammatory drugs and that's all. It masks. 23:57 All I'm saying: that lifestyle is important. 23:59 Whether... I cannot predict the fact, hey, that's what God's 24:03 going to do for you, but I do know that 24:05 you do not have anything to lose in following this program. 24:09 So... Go ahead, I'm sorry. Yeah, I was just saying 24:12 what I love about your story is that it offers hope. 24:15 And I think that's what lifestyle medicine is all about. 24:18 Because often we think: "Oh, I was born into this family. 24:22 I have the genetics and it's all downhill. 24:25 It doesn't matter; whatever I do is not going to 24:27 make a difference. " But here we have a real-life example! 24:30 And not just yours... there are so many people who have made 24:33 changes in their lifestyle and their diet and seen 24:36 positive results. One thing: when you mention 24:39 hope... In Job chapter 14 verses 7 through 9- 24:43 and you're probably familiar with this text - the Bible says: 24:45 "There's hope for a tree. 24:47 Though it be cut down yet its roots wax old in the earth. 24:51 At the scent of water it shall sprout again. " 24:55 So you can cut a tree down but if its roots are intact 24:59 and you couple that with Ecclesiastes 9 verse 4. 25:02 It says: "A living dog is better than a dead lion. " 25:05 Where there's life there's hope. 25:06 And so this program is about hope! 25:08 It's hope... and you found the hope in the Word of God. 25:12 You know, what's so beautiful about this is that 25:15 he talked about there's hope in a tree in its roots. 25:19 So what we're saying then: if there is an organ 25:22 that still has the flow of blood - Amen! - 25:26 you've got some blood flowing to that organ - That's it! 25:29 then it actually can live again! 25:31 Oh wow... that's a beautiful thought. And I hope 25:33 this has given you some hope today. 25:35 I want you to go and think about what may be 25:38 the cause for you. What may be the thing that's 25:42 in your lifestyle that's causing these inflammatory 25:46 responses. You search out the cause. 25:48 If you need to... In fact, I suggest: 25:51 go to the Word of God and maybe you'll find your answer there. 25:53 May God bless you. Thank you for joining us. 25:57 Proverbs chapter 11 and verse 17 states: 26:01 "The merciful man doeth good to his own soul 26:05 but he that is cruel troubled his own flesh. " 26:10 Wow! Today we learned about autoimmune disease 26:14 which essentially is when the body begins to attack itself. 26:18 We called it friendly fire. 26:21 However, we also learned that when we are actually putting 26:25 things in our bodies that cause an autoimmune response 26:29 and it troubles your own flesh 26:32 well, according to the Bible, that is cruel. 26:35 No, you know what's cruel? What's that? 26:38 When some people - i.e. YOU - try to mess up a good thing. 26:42 Well what good thing am I trying to mess up? 26:46 Don't you remember? You're messing up my good thing 26:49 of getting something started and then just back away. 26:53 Oh... yeah, yeah, I remember that. 26:56 The whole thing of... Your method of getting people 27:00 sick and then backing away. 27:02 Oh, I just have to ask you this: what harm has it done? 27:06 Are you kidding me? You're going to let them in 27:08 on my secret that if they stop doing this 27:11 and start doing that they could become health... 27:15 Go ahead... Health... Just say it! Heaa... 27:19 That's been our program for today. Oh, no, no, no. 27:21 That's not our program just yet. Not just yet. 27:25 Why don't you just back away? 27:28 Just back away. 27:32 Look: "Beloved, I wish above all things that 27:36 thou mayest prosper and be in health. " 27:38 I'm Rico Hill, and Sickness has backed away. 27:44 Maranatha... stay healthy! |
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