Participants: Pr. John Lomacang (Host), Pr. C A Murray
Series Code: HCL
Program Code: HCL090003
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00:01 Hello friends, grab your Bible
00:03 and a friend and sit back as we explore 00:04 God's word together on this 00:06 addition of House Calls. 00:22 Well welcome to another House Calls 00:24 program. I'm so glad that you've 00:25 taken the time to sit down and tune 00:28 in and hit the record button. 00:29 As you now my name is John Lomacang, 00:31 it's always good to be able to sit 00:32 before you, and walk through the Bible 00:34 together, it's an excursion that always 00:36 changes our lives. But I'm not alone, 00:38 I have my good friend with me here 00:40 today Pastor C.A. good to have you 00:41 here C.A. John, always good to spend 00:43 a little time with you in this setting, 00:45 I don't get to do this too often but, 00:46 that's right, glad to pitch it for 00:48 Pastor John. I know whenever he is 00:51 not in the hot seat you are and we get a 00:54 chance to kind of switch that around 00:55 and whenever I'm not here you are 00:56 here you know you kind of, oh yeah. 00:58 You are our professor, but we are 01:02 sitting under your tutelage, but it's good 01:04 to have here today. Good to be here. 01:05 I tell you friends, it's always a great 01:07 thing to do but we have a lot to 01:09 cover today. As you know your questions 01:11 make a big difference, but before 01:12 we do anything more, I'm going to 01:14 ask Pastor C.A. to have pray for 01:16 us this morning. Glad to do so. 01:18 Gracious Father, again we thank you 01:19 for this opportunity to talk about 01:21 our best friend Jesus. We thank you 01:23 for the light that comes from the word 01:25 and the love that comes from studying 01:28 the word and from knowing that we 01:30 are part of the family of God. 01:32 We ask Lord that as we open your 01:34 word that we maybe attended by your spirit, 01:36 that all we do and say will not glorify men 01:39 but all indeed glorify our risen savior. 01:42 We thank you for House Calls and 01:44 for the questions and for those who hear 01:45 and who hear more from the Lord 01:47 this day in Jesus name, amen, amen. 01:50 As you know friends your questions make 01:54 a major difference to this program. 01:56 Some of you send question that 01:57 very thick, and some of you send 01:59 maybe one liner, it's just amazing 02:01 to see what we get. Sometimes we 02:03 get dissertations and then at the 02:05 very end they have a question that 02:07 can go either way, yeah. 02:08 But keep sending those questions 02:09 because it does make a difference. 02:11 And I would like to also let you 02:14 know if you have any questions 02:15 you like to send in, you can send 02:17 them to housecalls@3abn.org 02:19 that's housecalls@3abn.org. 02:22 We will download them and answer 02:25 them as best we can. Be kind to us, 02:28 we have people that are very 02:31 well educated. Some individuals 02:33 are theologian like and so they'd like 02:37 to send in their comments and 02:39 their statements. But we're gonna 02:41 to begin today with a question that 02:42 I think it's all your questions by the 02:44 way are good, but here's one. 02:46 It says hello brothers John. 02:49 Well I'll add C.A. into that today. 02:51 Thank you so much for your 02:53 wonderful program and ministry, 02:54 may God bless you and 3ABN. 02:55 I've been doing Bible study with 02:58 a few friends and conversation with 03:00 one of them I mentioned to them that 03:02 Satan cannot read our minds, 03:04 because he does not have that ability, 03:06 only God does. Well, I think this is fair, 03:09 he said, he asked me to give him biblical 03:12 foundation on that, and I couldn't 03:14 because I haven't always heard, 03:16 I've always heard from my mother and sister 03:19 that I know in my heart that Satan 03:23 cannot read my mind, but where in 03:26 scripture can I find this? 03:28 Well, I'm gonna throw that back and forth, 03:30 there are some scriptures in the Bible 03:31 that point out that Satan's abilities 03:36 are limited, but the good thing is thank 03:37 God he is limited. I know you have 03:42 a Bible verse that you want to share 03:43 with us, but let me point this out. 03:46 One of the things that Satan can 03:48 really keep track of his are habits and 03:52 our practices and because he is a 03:53 fallen angel, he has not lost all of his 03:56 abilities as an angel. But he is in fact 03:59 limited, he is not God, and he cannot read 04:01 our minds and there's a certain 04:02 Bible verse, there is not a Bible verse 04:04 that says Satan cannot read our minds, 04:06 but there are Bible verses that 04:08 gives attributes to God and God alone, 04:10 which shows that Satan does not have 04:12 the same attributes that God has. 04:14 And, share one of those with us, 04:16 I know you have one. Well the one 04:18 that pops up, the first one I have is 04:20 Deuteronomy 29:29, okay. The secrets 04:23 things belong unto the Lord our God, 04:25 but those things which our revealed 04:27 belong unto us and to our children forever, 04:30 that we may do all the words 04:32 of this law. Now what's interesting 04:34 about that John is it's really drawing 04:37 the line between our knowledge 04:39 and God's knowledge but in so doing 04:41 it also draws a line between God's 04:43 knowledge and Satan's knowledge, right. 04:44 There are certain things that we know 04:46 that God has been pleased to share 04:50 with us. There are certain things that 04:52 he has been pleased to keep from 04:54 us for a number of reasons. 04:55 There are also things that God know 04:57 that Satan does not know. 04:59 Again for the purposes of God, 05:01 there is communication that can 05:03 take place between us and our 05:04 Lord that Satan is not privy to, 05:06 what I'm thinking in my mind and 05:11 talking to God in my head Satan 05:12 is not privy to that having said that, 05:14 there is also this idea that well I 05:17 should pray in solitary that Satan 05:19 doesn't hear my prayers. Well I don't 05:21 want to be afraid to talk to my father 05:23 because of what Satan might do, 05:24 because he that is in me is he is greater 05:27 than He that is in the world. 05:28 Oh I like that, I'm not gonna, 05:29 I'm not gonna you know talk to God 05:32 in secret because I'm not afraid 05:33 of what Satan is gonna to do, 05:34 because God can certainly overwrite 05:36 all of that. So that, the basis 05:38 is there are secret things that belong 05:40 only to God that Satan is not privy to. 05:42 Yeah, when you were speaking a lot 05:44 of thoughts came into my mind and 05:46 one of those you say that so 05:49 wonderfully that Satan doesn't 05:51 know what's going on inside of 05:53 us God knows. He knows that, 05:55 as a matter of fact I think it's 05:56 Hebrews 4:12 talks about God's 05:58 word is a discerner of the thoughts, 06:01 yes, and intents of our heart, 06:03 and intents of the hearts surely. 06:04 So God's word, oh here's the thing 06:05 that came in my mind. 06:06 Satan is not omniscient which is 06:09 all knowing, he is omnipresent, 06:10 omnipotent, meaning all powerful, 06:13 all ever present or all present and 06:15 all knowing Satan is not omniscient. 06:18 Those are characteristics of God 06:21 Himself and God alone, Satan does 06:23 not have that ability. Having said 06:24 that as you will know he is a student 06:26 of mankind. He is a student of scripture 06:29 and a student of human behavior. 06:31 You know when you go to the border, 06:34 police are taught I have a good friend, 06:36 several good friends who are policemen, 06:37 they watch body language when they're 06:39 questioning you they're looking at 06:40 your eyes, they are looking at 06:41 your pulse rate, they are looking at all 06:43 of these things and they know if you're 06:45 telling the truth just by studying you. 06:47 Well if humans can understand that, 06:49 certainly Satan has those same powers 06:52 and abilities. He can study you, he kind 06:54 of knows if something happens and your 06:57 heartbeat goes up or a pretty lady goes 06:59 by and your heartbeat goes up and he is 07:00 saying in his mind, okay he's got a problem 07:02 with that. So, Satan is a student of human 07:05 thought and human what the word 07:07 I'm looking for, mannerism. 07:08 Yeah your mannerism, he studies 07:09 that too, and so he can pretty much 07:11 guess and conjuncture how you're gonna 07:13 respond in the given situation, but does 07:15 he know for a fact? No, he does not. 07:17 No, he does not only God know that. 07:19 As a matter of fact, there is a story 07:21 in the book of Job and I have some other 07:22 scriptures to give here in the book 07:23 of Job there is a story given when Satan 07:26 thought that he could really get Job 07:28 to be disloyal to God, precisely. 07:31 To curse God and die, and the Lord gave 07:35 him permission and I like this, 07:37 the Lord gave him permission but 07:39 had Satan known what Job was thinking, 07:41 he wouldn't have messed with Job, 07:43 because he knew that Job's loyalty, 07:45 right, was in his heart and in his mind. 07:47 Job was loyal to God no matter what 07:49 came his way. Now Job doubted his 07:51 humanity but he never cursed God 07:54 to his face, he never denied his Lord, 07:56 he never turned his back on God. 07:57 Satan would not have messed 07:59 with Job had he known Job's loyalty, yes. 08:01 The one that, one that avoids evil, 08:05 one that honors God and no matter 08:07 what, yeah. Had he known that 08:08 characteristic that was so solid 08:10 about Job, he wouldn't have messed 08:11 with him. Yeah, he's association will, 08:12 he's gonna curse you. Now, obviously 08:15 he didn't know who he is dealing with, 08:16 right, exactly. He didn't know who 08:19 he was dealing with, because Job 08:21 remained loyal through it all. So, that 08:24 and another instance shows us that Satan, 08:26 he's guessing you know he is taking 08:29 a shot at it but he doesn't 08:30 really know, right. He cannot really 08:31 know and thank God certain things 08:33 have been hidden from him, yeah. 08:35 I see in Daniel, yeah Daniel 2:22 08:39 one that you mentioned to me before 08:40 actually He revealeth the deep and 08:42 secret things: he knoweth what 08:45 is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth 08:47 with him. Again, it is God's pleasure 08:50 to reveal the deep and secret things. 08:52 There are certain things he reveals now, 08:53 certain things we will not know 08:55 throughout until eternity, and certain 08:59 things that Satan cannot know 09:00 they are deep, they are secret 09:01 and they are part of God's plan 09:04 for us, right. And he is not allowed 09:06 to intrude in that. The other thing 09:08 that you pointed this out and 09:10 this is true Satan doesn't know the 09:12 Bible to a great degree. 09:13 He understands what's there, 09:15 but even in that arena God limits 09:17 what he knows, yes. 09:19 Here's the scripture to support 09:20 that and truly had he known the 09:23 mind of man, we could almost 09:24 assert that he might have known 09:26 the mind of God, but he's not that, 09:28 he doesn't have that ability, 09:30 but here is a suggestion, 09:31 not a suggestion but a scripture 09:32 to support that idea. 09:33 Amos 3 and verse 7 the Bible says, 09:36 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, 09:38 but he revealeth his secret unto 09:41 his servants the prophet. 09:43 He doesn't even reveal his 09:44 secret to Satan. Matter of fact, 09:46 when Jesus and so many things 09:48 are coming to mind now, 09:49 that's what prayer does. 09:50 It opens our minds up to the Lord. 09:52 It truly does. When the Lord had 09:54 spoken to the multitudes in parables, 09:56 the multitudes didn't understand, 09:59 but when the disciples were away 10:01 privately with Jesus, he explained 10:03 the secret things to them, yeah he did. 10:05 Now had Satan known what was 10:07 in the mind of the disciples he could 10:09 have simply taken all those messages 10:11 to the Pharisees and scribes, 10:12 and beat Jesus to the punch. 10:17 And let the Pharisees and Scribes 10:19 know what was going to happen 10:20 next, because Jesus revealed these 10:22 things to his disciples in secret. 10:23 Also you remember in the 10:25 Old Testament in the book of 10:27 Second Kings I believe it was, 10:28 where oh the story is you'll remember 10:32 you are an Old Testament preacher, 10:33 where the enemy always wondered, 10:37 how does Israel know what we're 10:38 gonna to do next. Oh yes. yes, 10:39 yes, yes, okay. How did they 10:41 know that? Yeah, yeah, and answer 10:44 came back well the Lord has a prophet 10:46 and God is telling him what you're talking 10:49 about even in your bed chamber, 10:50 okay, yeah, yeah in your bed chamber. 10:52 And again, and Satan couldn't do it 10:53 the other way around, and it couldn't 10:55 be reversed, right. You know that's 10:58 a really good point, yes it is. Yeah, 11:00 he didn't know what Hezekiah was thinking, 11:03 right, Hezekiah knew precisely what he 11:06 was thinking, right, because God had 11:07 that one way communication. 11:09 I'll tell you his stuff, but you don't 11:10 get to do that reverse. Well Satan can't 11:12 tell you, right, what we're gonna do, 11:14 but I could tell you what Satan is 11:16 gonna to do, precisely. 11:17 Once again showing that God is 11:18 so much more powerful, that's a very 11:20 good point. So when we look at the 11:21 stories and that's what as once again 11:22 I don't even think about that but that's 11:23 what prayer does, it opens our minds up. 11:25 And here is the reason why friends 11:26 you want to write this one down, 11:28 Isaiah 46 verse 9 and 10, Remember 11:31 the former things of old: for I am God, 11:34 and there is no other, I am God 11:38 and there is none like me and verse 11:39 10 is the punch, declaring the end 11:42 from the beginning, and from ancient 11:44 times things that are not yet done, 11:47 saying my counsel shall stand and 11:50 I will do all my pleasure. 11:51 So God is the one that has the ability, 11:53 He says I know what I've prophesize 11:56 is going to occur, I know what's 11:57 going to happen before it does. 11:58 Satan doesn't, if he did, 12:00 we'd be in trouble, yeah. There wouldn't 12:03 be any secret language that we 12:05 could use to try to keep him in 12:07 the dark about anything. Precisely, 12:09 yeah as God has chosen to keep 12:11 those things from him. 12:12 We serve a good God, and he is 12:14 looking out for his people, 12:15 we are not left for our self. 12:16 It makes all the difference, 12:17 which takes me to the next question 12:19 I mean its segues right into it. 12:21 In First Corinthians 14:14 and I'd like 12:24 you to read that for us, we get an 12:25 opportunity, is First Corinthians 12:28 14:14 a language that allows 12:31 us to pray, so that the Devil 12:33 could not understand us? That's kind 12:36 of the reverse you know these two 12:38 questions had somewhat of a 12:40 ping pong effect, one is does he 12:42 know everything we're saying 12:43 and the other one is we have to pray 12:44 in this language so he can't know 12:46 what we're saying, you see that's 12:48 an effect. First Corinthians 14:14 12:50 for if I pray in an unknown tongue, 12:52 my spirit prayeth, but my understanding 12:55 is unfruitful. Could you read it all 12:59 the way down to verse 19, 13:00 just give us the full picture of 13:01 what Paul is saying. Alright we pick 13:03 it up at verse 15, what is if then 13:06 I will pray with the spirit and I will 13:09 pray with the understanding also 13:10 I will sing with the spirit and I will sing 13:13 with the understanding also. 13:15 Verse 16, Else when thou shalt 13:18 bless with the spirit, how shall 13:20 he that occupieth the room of the 13:23 unlearned say Amen at thy giving 13:26 of thanks, seeing he understandeth 13:28 not what thou says. For thou verily 13:31 givest thanks well, but the other 13:33 is not edified. I thank my God, 13:36 I speak with tongues more than ye all. 13:39 Yet in the church I had rather speak 13:41 five words with my understanding, 13:43 that by my voice I might teach 13:47 others also, than ten thousand words 13:49 in an unknown tongue. And by the way let 13:54 me point this out if you're reading 13:56 from the King James version you might 13:58 notice that the word unknown is 13:59 italicize meaning it wasn't a part 14:01 of original manuscript. It was added 14:04 in there to amplify the understanding 14:06 or more specifically to make the 14:08 understanding more clearly, if you read 14:09 other translations you will just simply 14:11 find the word tongue. Now Paul made 14:14 it very clear in verse 18, he says, 14:16 I thank my God and let me read this 14:18 in other translation, I thank my God 14:20 I speak with more languages than 14:23 all of you. So Paul had that ability already. 14:28 He is fluent in more languages 14:29 than the rest. He was fluent in the 14:31 more languages; more learned, 14:32 went to school, product of the education. 14:34 He said, and then here is the where 14:35 the international children's Bible 14:37 paraphrase and this is amazing, 14:38 listen it says. I thank God that 14:41 my gift of speaking in different kinds 14:43 of languages is greater than any 14:45 of yours, yeah. He says that's fine, 14:48 I have I could do that already. 14:49 So, Paul already had that gift, and he 14:53 sharpened that gift that's why he 14:55 was in so many different parts 14:56 of the world able to communicate 14:57 the gospel. But at the Corinthian 14:59 church they were not many that 15:00 have that ability, yeah. But when 15:03 they came together seeing this was 15:05 an international congregation, 15:07 if I am speaking in my language 15:09 and praying in my language and 15:10 somebody next to me have absolutely 15:12 no idea what I am saying. 15:13 I am praying in my spirit God 15:16 understands it, but he has absolutely 15:18 no idea what I am talking about. 15:19 Now, let me bring this picture out 15:21 even larger. Some people that are 15:24 studying only the New Testament 15:26 may come up with this idea that we 15:28 need a language that Satan doesn't 15:30 understand. So that we can keep 15:32 things between us and God really 15:33 copacetic, yeah, there is old word 15:36 in New York, yeah. We can talk to God 15:38 and say to Satan see there you didn't 15:41 understand what I am saying. 15:42 That's not scriptural, you look at 15:44 the Old Testament they didn't feel 15:45 the need to have a different language 15:47 to communicate with God, no. 15:48 The Hebrews spoke in their language 15:51 or other nations that became converts, 15:54 others who turn their hearts and 15:56 there is, there is an illusion there 15:57 in the book of Exodus that many 15:59 of the Egyptians came out of Egypt 16:01 and followed the Israelites when 16:02 they were set free in the Exodus. 16:04 So there was no need for a new 16:06 language then to speak to God. 16:07 The Egyptians spoke in Egyptian, 16:09 the Hebrews spoke in Hebrew, yeah. 16:11 In the New Testament when the 16:13 Greeks were being converted, 16:14 the Greeks didn't feel the need to 16:15 speak in a different language 16:16 to speak to God, they spoke in Greek, 16:17 and the Aramaics and so when 16:20 you go to the day of Pentecost, 16:21 friends that's gonna be the 16:22 measurement of whether or not these 16:24 languages had any placement in the 16:27 New Testament any special focus 16:29 in the New Testament then they 16:31 did in the Old Testament. 16:32 Now here are the two questions 16:33 I will ask before I read it. 16:34 Was there all of the sudden Pastor C.A. 16:37 was there all of the sudden now 16:38 these development of newer nations 16:41 in the New Testament then they 16:42 were in the Old Testament? No, okay, 16:43 so they were Arabians in the 16:45 Old Testament as they were in the 16:46 New Testament. There were Parthians 16:48 and Elamites and Mesopotamians, 16:51 they were all these different nations 16:53 existed in the Old Testament. 16:54 Why all of the sudden now in the 16:56 New Testament is there some emphasis 16:58 on different languages. 17:00 Well the answer is very, very clear, 17:02 I'll start with Matthew 28 go 17:04 there with me. Matthew 28, 17:05 verse 18 to 20 and you'll discover 17:09 that the very, very measure that God 17:14 have given to the Old Testament 17:15 Israel to carry the gospel to the 17:17 world that had not been 17:18 accomplished yet. Now he choose 17:20 his 12 disciples. Now he's giving them 17:22 a commission, read the commission for us. 17:24 The commission as what we call it the 17:27 great commission, at verse 18, 17:29 And Jesus came and spake unto them, 17:31 saying, all power given unto me in 17:33 heaven and in earth. 19, Go ye therefore, 17:36 and teach all nations, baptizing them 17:38 in the name of the Father, and of the Son, 17:41 and of the Holy Ghost. Okay, 17:44 so the commission was to teach 17:46 all nations, so in order for me to 17:49 teach all nations I'll have to be able 17:50 to communicate with all nations. 17:52 And, significantly on the day of Pentecost 17:56 where are my glasses, don't mind me 17:59 these are fashionables these have 18:00 nothing do with function. 18:02 On the day of Pentecost there 18:07 was a gathering that's why it was 18:09 called Pentecost and because of the 18:10 time of the year the weather was most 18:12 favorable, it was one of the largest 18:14 gatherings. And at that gathering 18:16 you'll discover when tongues was 18:18 now activated, but activated not 18:21 in the lives of the world, but activated 18:24 in the tongue through the mouths 18:27 of Galileans, that's the key. 18:29 There were all Galileans, 18:31 so they have that language that 18:33 was very limited. They were not 18:35 prepared to take the gospel to the 18:37 whole world because they can only 18:38 speak Galilean. Okay, listen to this, 18:40 when the day of Pentecost had 18:43 fully come in, I am in Acts chapter 18:44 2 verse 1, They were all with one 18:46 accord in one place, and suddenly 18:49 there came a sound from heaven 18:50 as of a rushing mighty wind, 18:52 and it filled whole house where 18:53 they were sitting, then there 18:55 appeared to them divided tongues 18:58 as of fire, and one sat upon each 19:00 of them. And they were all filled 19:03 with the Holy Spirit and began to 19:04 speak with other tongues, yes, yes, 19:07 as the spirit gave them utterance. 19:09 Before I go any further, did they 19:11 began to speak with tongues or other 19:12 tongues? Other tongues, other 19:14 tongues so that means they were 19:15 already speaking in tongues, but now 19:18 they are speaking with other tongues 19:21 and the word there or the phrase 19:23 as the spirit gave them utterance 19:24 simply means as the spirit enabled 19:27 them to do that, enabled them surely, 19:28 surely, surely. You know, and not to 19:31 contradict that, I think you're plowing 19:33 through this so well, the fact that, 19:35 the idea that there was this 19:38 incursion of another tongue is just 19:39 inconsistent with scripture, right. 19:42 You know one of the things we 19:43 have to do when we are tying to parse 19:44 scripture when we're trying to make 19:46 application to ourselves is which directions 19:49 is it heading, what's the general 19:51 direction of scripture and that if 19:52 you get this wide and left turn you need 19:54 to check your road map you know because 19:56 you've got tongues, you've got 19:59 people speaking, you've got the gospel 20:01 going to other people, you've got the 20:03 inauguration of that going to other people, 20:05 what would an unknown tongue do to aid that? 20:08 Absolutely nothing. It'll actually hinder 20:10 the process, precisely. And Paul says 20:12 that in First Corinthians 14, exactly, 20:14 I would rather speaks five word that 20:16 you will understand than 10,000 words 20:17 in an unknown tongue. 20:18 You got a bunch of people from all over 20:19 the world who have gathered together 20:21 Parthians, Medes, people from everywhere 20:24 and then somebody is going to speak 20:26 in unknown tongue, what is that gonna 20:27 do for that group of people who need 20:29 to hear the gospel, who need to be 20:30 encouraged, you're speaking to God 20:33 in a tongue that you don't even know 20:35 Paul says what you're saying. 20:36 Certainly I don't know what you're saying, 20:39 how does that bless me, how does 20:40 that edify me. What Paul says in the 20:42 same chapter is it edifies you, 20:44 you're edifying yourself which means 20:45 that you're showing off, but you're not 20:47 edifying the church, right, or anybody 20:50 else who needs to hear the word 20:51 from the Lord. It makes no sense 20:53 and it doesn't flow in the general vein 20:56 that scripture is going. Yeah, and so, 20:58 so the thing you have to keep in 21:00 mind and Romans 12 brings this out, 21:02 is every gift that the Holy Spirit decides 21:04 to give to you is for the edification 21:07 of someone else, not for your personal 21:10 edification, right. He never gives 21:13 you a gift for person. He never gives 21:14 you a gift for your personal edification. 21:17 Every gift he gives, Romans 12 21:19 makes it very, very clear, he gives 21:21 us so that everybody else would 21:22 be edified by it, for the edification 21:23 of the church, of the church. 21:24 Ephesians 4, he gave some to be apostles, 21:28 and prophets, and evangelists, and 21:30 pastors, and teachers for the edifying 21:32 of the body of Christ, yes, see so 21:34 everything that's given is so that everybody 21:35 could be built up. But let's look 21:37 at the time when it was first used, 21:38 when you look at when something 21:40 was first used, you understand the 21:41 purpose for it. For an example if 21:43 I took a racing car out to cut my grass 21:45 somebody would say hey I never 21:47 knew that racing cars were for cutting grass. 21:49 If that's the first time I've ever used 21:51 it for that I'll get the label that racing 21:54 cars are for cutting grass. 21:55 He drives faster than scissors, 21:56 he cuts grass as he drives, 21:58 very unusual example. But if a racing 22:01 car is for the race track and that's 22:03 the first and only time it's used, 22:04 and the only place its used, but me to now 22:07 I try to use to cut grass somebody say 22:09 are you alright, yeah, yeah. And in the 22:11 same way languages are used to communicate 22:14 with each other get this now, right yeah. 22:17 Languages are used to communicate 22:18 with each other. Not to bypass Satan 22:22 to communicate with God. Yeah, yeah 22:24 there is no history of anywhere 22:27 in the Bible of an unknown tongue 22:28 giving you some sort of special powers 22:32 or entrance into the presence of God, 22:35 Holy Spirit does that, right, we find it 22:37 from Romans chapter 8 that's the 22:38 Holy Spirit's job. You say what's in your 22:40 heart it's unacceptable anyway Holy Spirit 22:43 takes it, dresses it up, cleans it up puts 22:46 some perfume on it present it to God, 22:48 that's the Holy Spirit's job not yours. 22:50 Romans 8, precisely go there turn there, 22:52 Romans 8 verse 26 to 28. You're right on it, 22:55 okay you got it. You see we've quote a 22:59 Romans 8 verse 28 you know, 23:01 All things work together for good for those 23:02 who love God, right, right. 23:03 Well Romans 8 verse 28 is not were it ends, 23:06 start with Romans 8 verse 26, 23:08 Romans 8 verse 26 tells you that if 23:11 anything has to do with bypassing Satan, 23:15 the Spirit does it precisely, 23:17 not us, precisely. I mean 26. 23:18 Likewise the Spirit also helps our infirmities: 23:22 for we know not what we should pray 23:23 for as we ought, okay, okay, But the 23:25 Spirit itself maketh intercession for us 23:27 with groanings which cannot be uttered Okay, 23:30 slow it down with groanings which cannot 23:33 be uttered, yeah. In the word there 23:35 is simply saying with groanings which 23:36 you cannot, right, duplicate. 23:39 You don't have the octane you know, 23:41 you can't do it, to know Holy Spirit 23:42 has to do that and take care of that 23:43 and sort of boost it, boost that signal 23:47 and make it powerful and presentable 23:49 for the Lord. Not done divinely not 23:51 done humanly but done divinely, right, 23:53 the divinely. Read verse 27 to even 23:54 filled that in, and he that searcheth 23:56 the hearts knoweth what is the mind 23:59 of the Spirit, because he maketh 24:00 intercession for the saints according 24:02 to the will of God powerful. 24:04 That's why verse 20 is so significant 24:06 and now we know all things work 24:07 together for good because when we 24:09 pray the spirit is the one that takes 24:11 our prayer and intercede and through 24:15 utterances that we cannot even mention, 24:17 he does it with groanings which cannot, 24:22 cannot be uttered, yeah. Don't run 24:24 pass that word because we are saying 24:26 we can utter it, the Bible says we 24:27 cannot utter it, right. He takes it to 24:29 the Lord and the Lord who knows 24:31 our heart and knows the mind 24:32 of the spirit brings it to the Father. 24:34 See so don't get that mixed up 24:35 with somehow we have a divine language 24:37 when the Bible says the divine utterances 24:40 are done by the divine entity of the 24:42 Holy Spirit. Your most passionate plea 24:44 is not enough, right, you know your 24:47 brother your sister your parents somebody 24:50 is ill and you're saying Lord please you 24:53 know in the name of Jesus I want healing, 24:56 I don't want to lose this relative. 24:58 And you're fervent still fall short, 25:02 your fervency still falls short, that's right. 25:05 Holy Spirit takes that and adds it's 25:08 groanings and adds it's part because it feel 25:10 it's your all spiritually tongue John says, 25:12 okay, it feels which are going through 25:14 and it transmits that to the throne 25:17 home of God. It's not unknown tongue 25:20 doing that, no, that's the spirit of 25:21 God doing that. That's a divine power, 25:23 precisely, infused in that moment. And so, 25:27 just ended all just kind of a put a 25:30 wrapping on it, so what was happening 25:33 on the day of Pentecost, what was the 25:35 purpose of the Lord giving these tongues 25:37 to the disciples. Verse 5 of Acts chapter 2, 25:39 And there were dwelling in Jerusalem 25:41 Jews devout men from every nation 25:43 under heaven, and when this sound 25:46 occurred the multitude came together 25:48 and were confused and here is the 25:50 reason why they were confused, 25:51 because everyone heard them speak 25:53 in his own language that's what happened. 25:56 So everybody that was gathered 25:58 there heard these Galileans speaking 26:00 in their languages and says wait a minute 26:02 that's confusing they're Galileans. 26:03 And the bible even goes on to say that. 26:05 Then they were amazed in verse 7 of Acts 2 26:08 and marvel saying to one another look, 26:11 are not all these who speak Galilaeans? 26:15 Aren't these guys from, how do they do that? 26:17 And look at the languages that they 26:19 spoken. In verse 8, and how is it that 26:22 we hear each in our own language 26:26 in which we were born, and go ahead 26:30 and mentioned to the nations. 26:31 Parthians, Medes, Elamites, dwellers 26:34 from Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, 26:36 and Cappadocia, Pontus, Asia, Phrygia, 26:39 Pamphylia, Egypt, parts of Libya, Cyrene, 26:43 strangers of Rome, Jews and Proselytes, 26:46 Cretes, Arabians. Okay, now what is 26:48 this say, yeah, and we do hear them 26:51 speak in our own tongues the wonderful 26:53 works of God. Okay, there it is that's 26:56 when tongues was instituted on the 26:58 day of Pentecost, so the Corinthians 27:01 experience was nothing different than this. 27:02 The Corinthians experience that Paul 27:05 was addressing was a church in a port city 27:07 where they were so many multiple 27:10 nationalities together, each one preferring 27:12 to speak in their own language and 27:14 Paul says you know this is not gonna 27:15 to work, this is not gonna work, 27:16 we got to speak in the language so 27:17 that people can be edified. 27:18 And clearly the purpose of the gift 27:22 of tongues and when you look at the 27:24 book of Luke. The Lord says it's a sign 27:26 for those who, it's a sign for those who, 27:29 do not believe, exactly, so those who 27:32 do not believe not for those who believe, 27:34 the way that it's being used today, 27:35 we're using it as a sign for those 27:37 who believe precisely, okay. 27:39 Now why would he say that because 27:41 those who don't believe need some 27:43 evidence that God is infused in this 27:46 moment and they surely would if they 27:47 heard me an American speaking in Greek, 27:50 in Hebrew, in Aramaic, yeah and whatever 27:53 language they will say wait a minute John 27:54 I know you, you're from Brooklyn, exactly. 27:57 What do you know about Russia. 27:58 What did you just say in German? 27:59 Well I am speaking to a German the 28:02 wonderful works of God, yes, and how 28:04 did you do that, the Holy Spirit, 28:05 Holy Spirit they have no other, 28:06 they have no other outlet but to say 28:08 he is now he can't be telling me anything 28:10 that I don't, he's got to be telling the truth 28:12 because I know John, he is raised 28:14 in Brooklyn, he didn't go to any 28:15 German schools, that's what the Lord 28:17 is saying, yes. So those who didn't 28:18 believe had evidence, yes, that the 28:21 Lord was now working through that vessel 28:22 to communicate the gospel to the world. 28:24 Yeah, and you know you had a number 28:27 of singular events, right, Holy Spirit 28:29 coming in rushing by the way you had 28:30 audible things going on, visible things 28:34 going on and then you've got this 28:36 speaking in tongue, so God was 28:38 starting something very, very new, 28:40 never done before, not replicated 28:42 since an inauguration of the gospel 28:45 going to the whole world and this 28:46 was a very special one time kind of thing, 28:49 that God did to get the gospel out 28:53 of it's small confines and take it 28:55 to the whole world. So now the question 28:58 will be why would people 28:59 nowadays be saying that we have 29:00 to have this special gift, yes. 29:01 Once again everything that God 29:03 establishes is a genuine, Satan tries 29:04 to delude and distort as a counterfeit, 29:07 yes, and once again there is a counterfeit 29:09 revival in Christianity based on this 29:12 Glossolalia, yes, not on the 29:14 communication of the gospel and 29:16 that's why today if we look at the 29:18 Bible the Lord says we are living in 29:19 the Laodicean time more confusion 29:20 and people don't even know they 29:22 are confused, more people in darkness 29:23 don't even know they're in darkness. 29:25 John, one thing just popped in, 29:27 you said before, we have made 29:29 this an end in itself and it's was 29:33 never an end and it was be a means, 29:34 the end is the spreading of the gospel. 29:37 This was a means to spread the gospel. 29:39 You said it before that you don't 29:40 get a gift just to say I got a gift. 29:43 You've got the gift towards an end, 29:46 and the end is always to glorifying Jesus. 29:48 So as Christ was lifted up this 29:50 means was employed, we've 29:52 turned it into an end, you've got 29:54 to get tongues, no you don't, 29:55 but you got to get Jesus and if it 29:57 takes tongues to get Jesus well 29:58 then God will give you tongues, 29:59 but if there is something else that's 30:01 needed God will give you that too, 30:02 because the end is always Jesus. 30:03 The end result is always Jesus, precisely. 30:05 Not to say I got it now, and there is 30:07 some denominations that teach you're 30:09 not saved until you can speak in tongues, 30:11 right. That's not even scriptural 30:12 because the spirit doesn't give you 30:14 what you want he gives you what 30:15 he feels you need, you need precisely. 30:17 Read that Romans 12, he gives to 30:20 you whatsoever he wills not what 30:23 you beg for, yeah. You know can 30:25 you imagine you know I want to be able 30:27 to perform miracles he says and 30:29 what's that gonna to do, yeah. 30:30 And we're looking for the personal 30:32 verifications, so be careful the spirit 30:34 is one that's passing out these gifts, 30:35 nobody is going to any gift store and 30:37 buying them and say I got my gift, 30:39 so I'm saved now, that's not scriptural. 30:41 Yeah, anyway friends we've covered 30:43 quite a bit of questions here today, 30:44 if you have any comments or questions 30:45 you would like to send to us you can 30:47 send them at to HouseCalls@3abn.org 30:50 that's HouseCalls@3abn.org. 30:52 And we will try our best to answer 30:54 them, thank you for your faithfulness 30:56 for your prayers and also your 30:58 financial support of 3ABN. Our topic 31:00 today is a hot one. And the reason 31:03 that we go back to this we're gonna 31:04 talk on this briefly today because 31:06 I am amazed even after House Calls 31:09 has been on for, I think three or 31:11 more three years now. Yes, oh yeah, 31:13 it's amazing it's been forth or fifth 31:14 year approximately. We're really 31:15 moving and it's amazing how 31:17 quickly it's moving on, but we still 31:20 get this question and I am 31:22 attributing it to the fact that there 31:23 is some who hadn't seen the prior 31:25 broadcasts on this topic about 31:27 hellfire because some individuals 31:29 that I've been having question 31:30 here today some people say well, 31:31 what you do a text like fire that 31:35 will not be quenched. Well, that's easy 31:37 for us to respond to, but people 31:39 that are told or taught that you're 31:43 gonna burning for ever and ever 31:44 and ever and ever and never needs 31:46 to understand what the Bible says 31:48 so they want to say please tell us 31:49 what the hellfire is all about, 31:50 when is it going to start and what is 31:53 the purpose of it. What I would 31:54 like to begin today by reading is Matthew, 31:57 Jesus gave the Parable of the Wheat 32:00 and the Tares. And the Parable of the 32:02 Wheat and the Tares I thought, 32:04 well my statement doesn't give 32:07 any validity to the words of Jesus but 32:09 the point of the matter is when Jesus 32:12 communicated His parable He summarized 32:14 Satan's desire, but He also included 32:18 in that parable the work that Satan does, 32:21 the end result of that work, And what's 32:24 gonna happen to those who are deceived 32:26 in the end by the work that Satan 32:29 has done, the Tares. What's gonna 32:31 happen to them, and Jesus pulled 32:34 this all together in the Parable 32:36 of the Wheat and the Tares. Now, 32:38 what I would like you to do, Pastor C.A. 32:41 begin by reading verse 24 to verse 30. 32:44 We're gonna start friends by reading 32:45 the parable, we're not gonna read the 32:47 interpretation of the parable. 32:49 Now we're in Matthew chapter, 32:50 Matthew chapter 13 verse 24 down 32:55 to verse 30. Listen to the parable first 32:59 and then we'll go to the interpretation 33:01 of the parable, it makes a lot of sense 33:03 that we listen to the words of Jesus 33:06 and then find out what He meant by 33:08 what He said okay. It starts verse 24, 33:11 13:24, you know it's interesting as 33:15 preachers we always have new Bibles 33:16 and I brought a new Bible today 33:18 you know the worst thing you can do 33:19 is bring a new Bible. Bring the Bible 33:20 in our program, on our program because 33:21 they turned very, very slowly they 33:23 will have the fingers just yet, 33:24 but I am in 13:24, okay Another parable 33:27 put He forth unto them, saying, 33:29 The kingdom of heaven is likened 33:31 unto a man that sowed good seed 33:33 in his field: But while the man slept, 33:35 his enemy came and sowed tares 33:37 among the wheat, and went his way. 33:39 But when the blade was sprung up, 33:42 and brought forth fruit, then appeared 33:45 the tares also. So the servants of the 33:47 householder came and said unto him, 33:49 Sir, didst not thou sow good seed 33:52 in thy field, from whence then 33:54 hath it tares? And He said unto them, 33:57 An enemy hath done this. 33:59 The servant said unto him, 34:01 Wilt thou then that we go and gather 34:04 them up? But he said, Nay; lest while 34:07 ye gather up the tares, ye root up 34:10 also the wheat with them. 34:11 Let them both grow together 34:13 until the harvest, and in the time 34:15 of harvest I will say to the reapers, 34:17 Gather ye together first the tares, 34:19 and bind them in bundles to burn them: 34:22 but gather the wheat into my barn. 34:24 Okay so He, right away you find 34:27 from verse 24 to verse 30 Jesus 34:29 gives the parable with all the Wheat 34:32 and the Tares in the bundles and 34:34 the in this sowing and all that 34:35 what is this all mean? Jesus as we 34:38 pointed out moments ago when 34:40 the multitude left, Jesus brought 34:42 His disciples to the side and made 34:44 it clear to them what he meant. 34:45 Now, let's look at the interpretation 34:46 starting with the verse 36, 36, 34:50 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, 34:52 and went into the house: 34:53 and His disciples came unto Him, 34:55 saying, Declare unto us the parable 34:58 of the tares of the field. 34:59 What in other words what 35:01 did you mean? Tell us what this is 35:03 all about. Okay, here it is, and He said, 35:08 okay I'm just gonna go down 35:12 here okay I'll make sure I have 35:17 the correct one here that's a correct one 35:19 yes that's a correct one, okay, yes, 35:24 verse 37, But He answered and said 35:28 unto them, "He that sows the good 35:30 seed is the Son of man." So the sower 35:33 is identified as the son of man that's Jesus, 35:35 the field is the world. The good seed are 35:39 the children of the kingdom, but the tares 35:42 or the bad seed are the children 35:44 of the wicked one, the Satan. 35:46 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; 35:49 right there, the harvest is the end of the world; 35:53 and the reapers are the angels. 35:56 You could even put those definitions 35:58 together if you have your Bible 36:00 or notebook just do that and 36:02 here is the key, as to when the fire 36:04 starts here it is, verse 40, As therefore 36:10 the tares are gathered and burned 36:13 in the fire; so shall it be in the end 36:17 of this world. Now, when it's gonna 36:20 happen now, end of this world, 36:23 now when a person dies, now when 36:24 a person dies. You know if that 36:25 you know when you adopt that theory 36:27 a Pastor you know that you put 36:29 yourself into a box because you're 36:31 basically saying that hell fire has 36:33 always burned and is burning now 36:35 because it has to be burning from the 36:38 time that Cain slew Able, it had to 36:40 started then, first murder, first sin. 36:42 So, it's burning somewhere since 36:45 those days, if that's your theology, 36:48 right, but it doesn't fly in the face 36:50 of Bible theology that this fire 36:53 that will take your sin and sinners 36:56 once in a while does so at the end 36:58 of the world, not now or not 37:00 when you die. Right it doesn't make, 37:01 it doesn't make any sense because 37:03 here's what you have to point out 37:04 here is some of the hurdles you 37:06 have jump over, one of the hurdles 37:07 and I like what you said if in fact the 37:10 fires of hell are burning now, 37:11 it would have had to start when Cain 37:15 who killed Able died and started 37:19 as the first punish, right, the first 37:21 punisher, that the first law as 37:23 the word's on fire yeah. 37:24 and then we said be flipping everybody, 37:28 but you know, right, because it's 37:29 such an unbiblical thing it would 37:31 have to always have been burning 37:32 from the first sinner to this day, 37:34 right, constantly fueled by the death 37:36 of sinners, and somebody here, yeah. 37:38 And Cain having been mentioned 37:41 as the first murderer, that is obviously 37:44 after Satan because he is the father 37:47 of all that murder. The first one being 37:49 consigned to hell, and he enters into the 37:53 flames and, the and, you know you got 37:56 to really put this picture together in your 37:57 head and I think there is sometimes 37:58 people don't put this picture together 37:59 in their heads. I mean let's look at this 38:02 for a brief moment, what went to hell 38:04 and I'm gonna go ahead and mess with this 38:06 theory just for a brief moment, 38:07 if people are burning in hell and they're 38:11 burning now and they'll be burning 38:13 throughout eternity, what's burning, 38:14 what's burning? Now somebody may say 38:20 their soul is burning. Well I have to challenge 38:24 you on that because the Bible doesn't 38:26 say that. On the contrary the Bible says 38:29 in Ezekiel 18:4 check it out The soul 38:32 that sinneth it shall die, it shall die. 38:35 says it again in Ezekiel is it 20, or 12 38:38 I think it's in 12 it says it twice, yeah, 38:41 I recognized 18:4 one day we want 38:43 to panel together, yeah, and we all 38:45 came over the same text but from 38:47 different points of Ezekiel so it says 38:48 it a couple of times. I think it may be 38:50 12 or 20 but I know it does in 18:4. 38:51 and if you look at the word soul 38:53 there in the Hebrew, it's not talking 38:55 about some disembodied spirit, 38:57 it's not talking about something that's 38:58 left the body of man after he died. 39:00 It is talking about the man himself. 39:03 It is talking about the being, 39:05 the person physically, because here's 39:07 what you have to conclude in order 39:09 for something to burn it has to have 39:11 some tangible properties, it can't be 39:13 ethereal that means it can't be 39:15 something that's floating around 39:16 that you cannot see, and then 39:18 secondly I've heard all the theories, 39:20 so I'm addressing the theories I've 39:21 heard some individuals say well 39:23 there are two bodies, a body in 39:25 hell waiting for you and a body in heaven. 39:26 So when you die depending on how you 39:28 live your life your soul goes to which 39:30 ever body that's waiting for you. 39:31 Once again, a stretch beyond the 39:35 human reasoning of scripture it doesn't 39:36 support that. Bible talks about a 39:39 terrestrial body and a celestial body that 39:42 simply meaning the Bible talks about 39:43 the body we're going to have after we 39:46 are made immortal, but the body that we 39:48 have now before we are made immortal. 39:50 And so if you're following my thoughts 39:52 very carefully, there is no eternally 39:55 burning body anywhere reserved for you. 39:58 There is nothing that man has that's a sinner, 40:01 that is eternal, there is nothing about 40:03 sin that's eternal. So nobody could 40:05 be burning from four or five thousand 40:07 years, thousand years, good, precisely. 40:09 And then if we take that to the next level. 40:10 This is what's so strange about this 40:15 and I have a hard time trying to explain 40:16 something that doesn't exist. 40:18 When the judgment happens in Revelation 40:22 and all the world stands before the 40:24 Lord and every knee bows and every 40:25 tongue confesses that Jesus Christ 40:27 is Lord to the glory of the father 40:28 that would mean that not only are the 40:31 righteous to clearing that, but every knee 40:33 every man that is ever lived will be alive 40:36 for short period of time at the end 40:39 of the thousand years. The righteous 40:40 and wicked will declare the glory of God, 40:42 God has been just. Revelation 17, 40:44 He has been faithful, every judgment 40:46 He made was right, when they declared 40:48 that God, when they declared that 40:49 Jesus is Lord. Are we saying that 40:53 there is gonna break in the burning? 40:55 There is gonna be a halt in the burning. 40:57 Man I need to break after 6000 years 41:02 so I could declare God as Lord just 41:03 to be plunged back into it, yeah. 41:05 You understand how ridiculous that 41:06 sounds, yeah yeah. You know that's a 41:08 point and I hadn't quite thought of it 41:09 that way, but mouth is going to confess. 41:11 So it means that those who have died 41:13 and burning left, takes a sabbatical 41:16 from burning, right, and to make that 41:17 confession and go back to burning. 41:19 It just doesn't really fly in the face 41:21 of Biblical evidence. It doesn't match, 41:22 yeah, It doesn't match, but if you go 41:24 I don't where you are did you find in 41:26 Ezekiel but in Malachi I want to go Malachi, 41:28 because Malachi makes it very clear, 41:30 what's gonna happen. And then before we 41:33 wind the program up we're gonna go 41:34 to the arch enemy himself and address 41:37 the question, is Satan going to burn eternally? 41:40 Anyway I don't want to go any further 41:43 than that, I want to take all that, 41:44 I want to just tease that and then 41:48 answer the question. Malachi chapter 41:49 4 Pastor, yeah when you said Malachi 41:51 I assumed you're going to Malachi for one, 41:53 okay, For, behold, the day cometh, 41:54 that shall burn as an oven; 41:55 and all the proud, yea, and all that do 41:58 wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day 42:01 that cometh shall burn them up, okay, 42:04 saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall 42:07 leave them neither root nor branch. 42:10 Now we live in the Midwest and we've 42:12 seen some fires okay. If you live in the 42:15 Midwest or anywhere that you have to cut 42:16 down trees and you have to pile it all 42:20 together we call it a burn pile. 42:22 We talked about the burn pile 42:23 there in Matthew 13. The angels are 42:26 gonna gather them and in the end 42:28 the fire is gonna be burning in the end. 42:30 Now, when a person died what's 42:32 gonna happen, how much he is gonna 42:34 be left. Neither root nor branches, 42:36 so nothing, okay. Root the bases or 42:38 branch what comes from it all that 42:40 gonna be gone, that's verse one, yeah. 42:41 Look at verse 3, read verse 3 now, 42:43 here we go, and ye shall tread down 42:45 the wicked; for they shall be ashes 42:48 under the soles of your feet in the day 42:50 that I shall do this, saith the Lord 42:52 of hosts. So in essence, if I'm hearing 42:54 you correctly you're saying that the 42:55 wicked are gonna be ashes, yeah. 42:56 So, you mean kind of like a crematory, 43:00 okay if you've ever heard about cremation, 43:04 some people say well it is a Biblical. 43:06 Well, cremation is exactly what's 43:10 happening here. Cremation means 43:12 the body, the flesh, the skin, 43:14 the bones, the teeth all of that, 43:16 that's thrown into a furnace and 43:18 the strange thing about that as we 43:19 see everything has a certain duration 43:21 like they say the person decays while the 43:24 teeth are around longer, the hairs 43:25 around longer, calcium is around 43:29 longer, the bones are around longer 43:30 than the flesh. But nothing survives 43:33 the crematory, precisely, nothing. 43:35 Hair is the first thing to burn anything, 43:38 any fall like the first thing to burn, 43:39 so nothing survives the crematory. 43:40 Jesus in the very end is going to 43:43 cremate sin and sinners are gonna 43:46 to be wiped out, yes, yes. 43:47 So is that what we're hearing, 43:48 that's what we're hearing. 43:49 Ashes under the souls of your feet, 43:53 nothing left, nothing recognized, 43:55 nothing discernible, no part of that human 43:58 person will remain. So now, but is that 44:04 happening now, are people being 44:05 burnt now, no, okay. There is no biblical 44:08 evidence of that happening now. 44:09 And it's powerful because it gives 44:11 us a correct picture of the God 44:13 that we serve. It doesn't make God 44:16 a vindictive person who delights in 44:21 burning people forever. 44:22 And I think they're a lot of people 44:24 who over the years have been sort 44:25 of turned off by that idea that God 44:27 would be like that, and there is no 44:30 evidence of that in the word of God. 44:32 When you create a soul that lives forever, 44:36 you've got to put that soul some 44:38 place forever. So you've locked 44:40 yourself into this idea of eternally 44:42 burning hell because you've got this 44:44 soul that does not die, so it's got either 44:46 be in heaven forever or in hell forever 44:48 and that's why the doctrine is so 44:50 pernicious because that backs you 44:52 into a corner where you've got to put 44:54 that soul some place forever, 44:55 and it really defaces the image 44:58 of a loving God, yeah. So, clearly 45:01 when the Bible says the Lord knows 45:03 how to deliver the godly out of 45:05 temptation, and to reserve the 45:07 unjust unto the Day of Judgment 45:10 to be punished. There is a day of 45:12 judgment that is coming, yes. 45:13 And the Day of a Judgment is not 45:14 when you die that means your 45:16 judgment is sealed when a person 45:18 dies whatever their faith is it's sealed, 45:21 there is no second chance of doctrine. 45:23 But there is no, no more than 45:26 we go to heaven that anybody goes to hell, 45:29 but there is this idea that you go 45:31 in one direction or the other, 45:32 but then that begs to ask the question, 45:34 well why has Jesus happen to come 45:36 back to get us, precisely, if we're 45:37 already there, and it's just in Revelation 45:39 22:12, right behold I come and my 45:42 reward is with me. And if you've 45:46 ever gotten the reward that's like 45:48 I already got my present, right, 45:49 you know what you're gonna give 45:50 me now, but He's coming to bring his reward. 45:52 A matter of fact let's look at Revelation, 45:54 no let's go the book of Ezekiel 45:56 I want you to see this, Ezekiel 28 that's 46:02 where we're gonna go what's gonna 46:03 happen to Satan? We have to find 46:06 out what's gonna happen to the 46:07 devil himself? Well we know, 46:10 without even studying very deeply 46:15 we know that in the Ezekiel we find 46:21 that this king of Tyre who is, 46:23 who is synonymous, metaphor, 46:27 metaphor right for Lucifer and for the 46:31 fallen angel we will clearly see 46:33 everything about him as outlined 46:35 but the question we have to ask 46:36 ourselves is what's gonna be the end 46:38 of Satan himself. Let's read what the 46:41 Bible says, I would like to answer 46:42 that question but let's read what 46:43 the Bible says Ezekiel 28 Pastor and 46:46 verse 18 and verse 19, okay. 46:51 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries 46:56 by the multitude of thine iniquities, 46:58 and by the iniquity of thy traffic; 47:01 therefore will I bring forth a fire 47:03 from the midst of thee, it will 47:05 devour thee, and I will bring thee 47:07 to ashes upon the earth in the sight 47:09 of all them that behold thee. 47:11 All they that know thee among 47:14 the people shall be astonished at thee: 47:17 thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt 47:20 thou be anymore. Okay, never shalt 47:25 thou be anymore. The Lord is going 47:28 to bring from the midst of Satan 47:31 and devour him, bring him to ashes 47:34 on the earth in the sight of all those 47:37 who saw him. You look that clearly 47:40 over if Satan himself is going to be 47:42 turned into ashes if Satan himself 47:44 is gonna become a horror and 47:46 shall never be as the Bible says 47:49 and shall be no more forever, 47:53 where as the King James Version says 47:54 it has it said. I never shalt thou be 47:57 any more; okay there it is, yeah. 47:59 So clearly, yeah it presupposes an end, 48:01 right, anymore not gonna be anymore. 48:04 So the question is the Satan had eternal life. 48:07 Now you answered the question with 48:08 what answer, no, right. The wages of sin 48:12 is what? Death, death, the gift of God 48:14 is eternal life. So we have to ask 48:16 ourselves the question who receives 48:18 the wages of sin, if you can assign 48:20 any human being that judgment 48:23 you surely can't assign that judgment 48:24 to Satan himself. The wages of sin 48:27 is death, death is not the continuance 48:29 of life somewhere else, death is the 48:31 end of life, yes, lets go to scriptural, 48:34 precisely, what's the text it's Second 48:36 Timothy God alone who have eternal life? 48:38 Oh! Yes Second Timothy 1:16, yeah 48:40 we're popping these checks out there 48:41 and it sort of like studying the word 48:42 of God, because things just come to your mind, 48:44 yeah, God alone has the eternal life, 48:45 you can't assign it. Now I heard a 48:47 preacher say well, burning hell, 48:48 I don't call it life, well it's doesn't 48:50 matter what God calls it, 48:51 and only God has eternal life. 48:54 We don't have it, Satan certainly 48:57 doesn't have it, there is going to be 48:58 an end to sin and sinners. 49:00 How could you really enjoy a new 49:04 heaven and a new earth with this 49:06 idea that somewhere in the universe 49:09 people are burning forever? 49:10 It's antithetically, it's just, 49:12 it doesn't go along with his idea that 49:14 God is going to make all things 49:17 new that's part of an old world 49:20 part of the old problem that is 49:21 going to come to an end when 49:23 Christ puts it to an end. 49:25 And it doesn't match; it doesn't 49:29 match the character of God at all, 49:31 yeah. It doesn't match the character 49:33 of God to give you eternal life 49:34 to the righteous and the wicked when 49:36 the Bible says in the most recited 49:40 scripture of all history I think I 49:42 can say that, that make the Guinness 49:44 book of records. John 3:16, sure, 49:47 let's recite it together, yeah, 49:48 are you ready, "For God so loved 49:50 the world, that he gave his only begotten 49:53 Son, that whosoever believeth in him 49:55 shall not perish, should not perish, 50:00 but have everlasting life." 50:03 Okay so the only two you get is perish 50:05 or everlasting life, right, you don't get 50:09 everlasting punishing, you get 50:14 everlasting punishment, yes, it's a 50:17 difference all together. The results are 50:18 permanent, not the process, 50:20 for the process to be permanent 50:21 you have to have something that's 50:23 permanent, and you know and the 50:25 wicked do not put on the mortality, 50:26 right, only the righteous put on 50:29 a mortality. Hopefully I am letting 50:31 those points thinking very clearly. 50:32 It's very crucial what is the antecedent 50:36 to punish to everlasting, is it 50:39 punishing or punishment, and so 50:42 many have taken it as punishing. 50:44 God is going to punish you forever, 50:46 no it's a punishment that is everlasting 50:49 whose effects our everlasting 50:50 and that is consistent with scripture 50:52 throughout all of scripture. 50:54 Let me use a Bible verse here 50:56 that people often like to cite which 50:58 if you read it carefully it says 51:00 exactly the opposite of what they 51:02 like it to say. Matthew 10, Matthew 10, 51:06 well I'm in Mark then, I'm supposed 51:09 to be in Matthew. Go with me to 51:11 Matthew chapter 10, I want you to read 51:14 this verse with us we're gonna 51:16 read verse 28, and people like to read 51:20 this verse because they say Aha! 51:22 I found evidence that you really can't die, 51:26 but if you read the verse carefully you 51:29 will see that it says exactly what opposite 51:31 of what you think it says. Okay, go and 51:34 read that verse for us, yeah the 51:35 important part is after the colon, exactly, 51:37 it's far from, And fear not them 51:42 which kill the body, but are not able 51:44 to kill the soul. Okay stop, stop right, 51:47 don't fear those who can kill your body. 51:51 But can kill your soul. Now, is that 51:54 suggesting that the soul is eternal? 51:56 No that's not suggesting the soul 51:58 is soul is eternal, because if the 52:00 soul what eternal or immortal than 52:02 the second part of the scripture 52:03 really wouldn't have any qualification, 52:05 precisely, what it suggesting is this, 52:06 somebody could take me to Iraq, 52:08 cut my head off, burn me in a fire, 52:12 throw me in the furnace, 52:13 have me torn up by horses, have 52:15 me thrown in the lake and drowned, 52:16 but they cannot take away my 52:18 eternal life, that's what that I says, 52:20 precisely, but now is there someone that can. 52:23 Read the second part of it now. 52:25 But rather fear him, fear him okay, 52:30 which is able to destroy both soul and body, 52:33 where in hell, okay. Now, here's the key, 52:36 will the body and the soul be 52:38 destroyed in hell? According to this 52:41 text it will, yes. Destroyed, destroyed 52:45 the word there is destroyed what 52:47 that means is when the Lord is done 52:49 with sin and sinners they won't be anymore 52:52 sin they won't be anymore sinners. 52:54 There is not gonna be some lake somewhere 52:56 where people are gonna be reserved 52:58 burning throughout the Eons and 53:00 endless ages of eternity, that's not 53:02 gonna be the case. So we have to ask 53:04 ourselves, we have to ask ourselves 53:05 a question then since this, since the 53:08 Bible does say that and uses the word hell, 53:11 destruction body and soul that shows 53:16 that the soul is not eternal, right, that 53:18 that once again butcher says what 53:19 is taught in Ezekiel 18 verse 4 and also 53:22 in Ezekiel 12 or Ezekiel 20, so you 53:24 currently see that the soul doesn't 53:26 have any endless property and by 53:28 the way the idea that the soul had 53:30 the end of this property comes from 53:31 those who favor just the King James Version, 53:33 but if you read other translations it talks 53:36 about not so much an entity that's separate 53:38 from the body, but it is simply saying 53:40 he is able to destroy mankind in hell, 53:43 that's what it summarizes, it puts it 53:45 together he is the only one able to 53:47 completely destroy us and wipe us out 53:49 of existence, not having any 53:51 continued existence after he comes 53:52 back again. Okay, let's look at another 53:55 passage, anything comes to your mind? 53:56 Nahum is one that people turned to 54:00 all the time Nahum 1 and verse 9, and 54:07 you know this is when you think 54:10 of when you think of the little tiny 54:12 book of Nahum you see that one of the 54:15 challenges has been that people are 54:19 really concerned that in the end result 54:23 and here is where the concern comes in 54:25 and let me before I get to the end and 54:28 concern, you're in Nahum, I'm gonna 54:29 have you read that. The teaching 54:31 has the teaching has continually been, 54:33 we've come to an era in America 54:36 and not only the global religious 54:38 awakening, but I refer to it often and 54:41 I refer to it lightly as the hell in fire, 54:44 the Hellfire and Brimstone preachers, okay, 54:47 but in order for that to get any kind 54:49 of impetus that whole concept had to come 54:52 from somewhere and when you trace 54:54 the history of the dark ages you'll find that 54:56 the Roman church in order to build up 54:58 it's monasteries, it's cathedrals, it's great 55:03 sanctuaries throughout Europe, they taught 55:05 that there was this never ending, 55:07 never quenchable torture that will take 55:11 place for the wicked and they even created 55:14 some idea of Purgatory and Limbo, 55:15 that if you don't pray me out of 55:17 Purgatory and limbo within 30 days 55:19 whether you're an adult or a baby then 55:20 your child or your father is gonna go 55:22 to hell and be tortured and tormented 55:24 there for forever. This is not a 55:25 scriptural teaching, this came from the 55:27 Greek teaching of the God Hades, 55:30 yes, you see, that's Greek mythology, 55:33 but in the New Testament the word 55:34 Hades is used there, you see, clearly talking 55:37 about this place of destruction the grave, 55:39 but Nahum 1:9 read that for us, 55:42 what's gonna happen Nahum 1 and verse 9, 55:44 What do you imagine against the Lord? 55:47 He will make an utter end, affliction 55:50 shall not rise up the second time. Okay, yeah, 55:54 He will make an utter end, okay it's going 55:57 to utterly end, powerful words, very plain 56:01 and it's not gonna come back ever so it's 56:03 not gonna remain forever, it's gonna end. 56:05 Well who is, who is hell prepared for you 56:08 already know the answer, yeah, devil and 56:10 his angels, okay, hell is not the Lord 56:13 did not create hell for mankind, because 56:16 God so loved the world He gave His only 56:17 begotten son to save us. 56:18 The Lord didn't send His son to the world 56:21 to condemn us. John 3:17, hell is prepared 56:24 for the devil and his angels and when 56:27 you read Revelation chapter 20, 56:29 you find that this fire that comes down 56:32 from heaven on earth and this, 56:33 it devours the Bible says and fire came 56:36 down from heaven and devoured them, 56:39 devoured them. Okay, the ones that 56:42 were devoured is the beast, 56:43 the false prophets, Satan and whoever 56:46 was not found written in the book 56:47 of life, the book, correct, it's called a 56:49 second death. Now why it would be 56:52 called the second death Pastor if there 56:55 was no first death. Because there was 56:56 no first death very powerful, okay, yeah, 56:58 first death was what, yeah, death, 57:00 natural death, the grave being put 57:02 in the tomb, being laid at the cemetery 57:05 of the first death, unconscious 57:07 unaware of what's taking place 57:08 like when you went bed last night, 57:10 unaware, unconscious. The second death 57:13 is wiping us out of existence so there 57:16 will no more sin, no more death, 57:17 no more heart attack and no more suffering. 57:19 Very depressing topic if you think about hell, 57:23 but here's the beauty of it if you think 57:24 about the Lord Jesus Christ and give 57:27 your life to him you fear not what's going 57:29 to come you fear not the fires of hell 57:30 make that decision to give 57:32 your life to Christ today. |
Revised 2014-12-17