Participants: John Lomacang (Host), John Stanton
Series Code: HCL
Program Code: HCL090010
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00:01 Hello friends, grab your Bible and a friend
00:03 and sit back as we explore God's word 00:04 together on this edition of House Calls. 00:22 Welcome to the Bible journey, that's exactly 00:25 what I said, a Bible journey. We don't know 00:28 where it's going to end, at least today 00:30 we don't know but in eternity hopefully we'll 00:33 all be in the kingdom together to see 00:35 the living word. But today welcome to House Calls 00:38 where we speak about the written word, 00:41 and I'm not by myself, I have my good friend 00:43 John Stanton. It's good to be here John, 00:45 studying the word together. That's right, 00:46 the best place to be, and by the way this is 00:49 the best place on earth right now. 00:52 At least we think so, if we didn't think so 00:54 we wouldn't be here, so thank you for joining us, 00:56 sit back do not be in a hurry, hit the record 00:59 button, we're going to get into the 01:00 word of God today. And before we do that though 01:04 we always pray and ask for the Lord 01:05 to lead in our study. Let's start, let's do that. 01:08 Dear Father in heaven, we're so grateful to be 01:11 able to come before your throne here, 01:13 asking for your Holy Spirit for to lead and 01:16 guide us through your word. We have some topics 01:18 set here before us, but Father, we want your 01:22 leading and your guidance to take us through 01:24 your word, and to teach us things that maybe 01:27 we haven't thought about before. 01:29 Lord, we just pray that this whole study 01:31 and everything that is done will bring honor to 01:33 your name, and it will give you primary the 01:36 glory in all things, in Jesus name amen, amen. 01:39 Well, friends as many of you know this program 01:42 has a lot to do with Bible questions, 01:45 and where do we get those questions from? 01:47 We get them from you, and so before we go 01:49 into our topic today, which is about 01:51 relationships and we lay the foundation I believe 01:54 our last program we'd like to encourage you 01:57 if you have any Bible questions you wanna 01:58 send to us, send those to housecalls@3abn.org, 02:02 that's housecalls@3abn.org and we go to the 02:05 Internet type it in, download it and 02:09 here they are. So, when you send questions, 02:13 I think you can guarantee that they maybe 02:15 addressed or answered if you make them succinct 02:17 into the point, when you make them books 02:20 we try to send them off to the Library of Congress 02:22 but they don't accept it either. 02:24 Anyhow we're here today and John is going to begin 02:26 with out first Bible question, what do you 02:28 have for us John? Well, I have a question that 02:29 has come up several times in the past and 02:32 you know we try to, to explain it and to 02:35 share at least biblically with some good 02:38 hermeneutics, okay, you know when I say 02:40 what that word hermeneutics says 02:41 a lot of people don't pay a lot of attention to it. 02:43 But hermeneutics are something that brings all 02:46 the scriptures together, the harmony of everything 02:48 together as we interpret maybe a verse or 02:50 a passage in its proper context. And so anyway 02:54 this one is often taken out of context John, 02:57 this scripture that this question comes from. 02:59 This Gallon Nancy says, that she is currently 03:05 conducting a Bible study with a lady who's been 03:07 taught the Genesis 6:1 to 4 teaches that 03:09 evil angels come down from heaven, had relations 03:12 with women and produce giants, I mean with men, 03:16 with humans, okay. Relations with women, 03:19 oh I got it, humans and produce giants, 03:22 I'm having trouble finding the proper scripture 03:24 to show that the sons of God were 03:26 descendants of Seth and the daughters of men 03:28 were descendants of Cain. She wants to know 03:30 specifically where the Bible says this. 03:33 Okay, well thank you very much Nancy for 03:35 sending this question in. The Bible is actually 03:37 very clear about that, that the two chapters 03:42 previous to Genesis chapter 6 do reveal very 03:47 clearly and succinctly the genealogy of Cain, 03:50 and the genealogy of Seth, and in fact in 03:54 genealogy of Seth, Adam is mentioned. 03:57 So, it starts with Adam. In the genealogy of Cain, 04:00 guess who that starts with? Cain, so clearly 04:03 we have two descendants, Adam who was created by 04:07 God himself, is spoken of as having a line down 04:12 through Seth and so we have his genealogy. 04:14 Starting with chapter 5 all down through well 04:19 the entire chapter, chapter 5 down through verse 32 04:21 is all about the godly that is Seth's line 04:25 beginning with Adam. Now, Cain, Cain's line 04:30 begins at Genesis 4 verse 16 and it goes on 04:35 there down and talks about his line and that is 04:38 speaking of the ungodly or those that were not 04:41 the sons of God, but the sons of men. 04:43 And so then when you get to the chapter 6 04:46 you actually see the conflict, the controversy 04:49 really begin to unfold John, as I think probably 04:52 where as maybe the Great Controversy begins 04:55 in chapter 3 with the temptation of Eve and 04:59 then the fall of both Adam and Eve. 05:00 We find in chapter 6 the controversy of the 05:04 descendants of those beginning to unfold, 05:08 the controversy between the sons of God 05:10 and the sons of men, or the daughters of men 05:12 as referred to here. And we'll pick it up with 05:14 the verse 1: Now it came to pass, when men 05:17 began to multiply on the face of the earth, 05:20 and daughters were born to them, that the 05:22 sons of God saw the daughters of men, 05:25 that they were beautiful; and they took wives 05:27 for themselves of all whom they chose. 05:31 Okay, alright, so let's look at this first John 05:34 because there is something that I think 05:37 those who teach falsely scripture. 05:42 We'll try to do that we as honest seekers of God's 05:46 word should make sure that we do not 05:48 allow them to do it. And I'm speaking very much 05:51 in legal language here, because this is, 05:55 this is often what has happened, what happens 05:57 in a court room, where a lawyer will try to pull 06:00 in some presuppositions and things that really 06:02 aren't true, premise that is false, right, 06:05 build off that premises, to premise to establish 06:08 some kind of a logic conclusion, a logical 06:11 conclusion that is false. And so here's what I 06:14 mean by that, immediately when anyone is 06:17 discussing this passage, sons of God, 06:20 daughters of men they do one specific thing 06:23 pertaining to the fallen angels. And that is 06:26 Satan and the third of the angels that were 06:28 cast out of heaven and here's what they do, 06:29 here's where the false premise comes. 06:32 They immediately scribe to them the ability 06:34 to propagate, to procreate, right, that's right. 06:38 That is an assumption that you have to make 06:40 in this passage to interpret the way that 06:42 many interpret it today which is that evil angels 06:46 saw the women that were beautiful, came down 06:48 took wives of them, and had relations with them 06:51 and then they had giants that were born to them 06:54 which are descendants of these fallen angels. 06:58 And you have to, to accept that kind of a 07:01 conclusion or interpretation of this, 07:03 you have to say as a premise that angels have 07:07 the ability to procreate. And that's called 07:09 another theological term I say Jesus adding, 07:12 adding new text, something it's not there, right. 07:15 There is not a single, not one scripture anywhere 07:20 in God's word that ever even implies that 07:24 angels were given the ability to procreate, 07:26 no, it just doesn't exist. Matter of fact when 07:31 the Bible refers to sons of God, the only time 07:34 you can find a phrase that you could try your 07:40 best to twist as in Job 2:1 when it says: 07:44 And there was a day when the sons of God 07:45 came to present themselves before the Lord, 07:48 and Satan came also among them to present 07:51 himself before the Lord. That's the only place 07:53 that you could, you know you could twist 07:56 and then you find the other verse, these are the 07:58 verses that they take out of context though 08:00 in Job 38 verse 7: When the morning stars 08:03 sang together, and all the sons of God 08:06 shouted for joy? Showing two different categories, 08:10 the morning stars which are the angels, 08:12 stars were angels, singing together, 08:13 and the sons of God godly, godly men, 08:17 rejoiced and sang before the Lord. 08:19 But the proper context for those, the inference 08:23 here in Genesis 6 is in John 1 and verse 12 08:25 and in Romans 8 and verse 14 08:27 and Romans 8 and verse 19, and here they are. 08:30 But as many, this is John 1 verse 12: 08:32 But as many as receive him, to them he gave 08:36 power to become the sons of God, 08:40 and so when it talks about the sons of God 08:43 came unto the daughter of men. You followed 08:46 the history and this is something that is very 08:48 interesting, as long as the children of Israel, 08:53 as long as godly men remains separate from 08:58 ungodly women. This is the foundation for 09:01 much of what Solomon writes, strange women 09:04 will turn your heart away from God, 09:06 as long as they remains separate, then there was 09:09 no degradation of the morality of the races 09:14 that God created. And the biggest concern was 09:15 that these women would get them to begin to 09:19 worship their false Gods that were from these 09:21 other nations, and that was the biggest concern, 09:24 the Lord knew that would happen. 09:25 Example Ahab and Jezebel, right, prime example, 09:28 example Samson and Delilah, right, you see 09:31 those examples you find again Samson, a man that 09:34 God chose, Delilah, a woman God did not choose, 09:38 the daughters of men, the daughter of man. 09:41 Jezebel, the daughter of man, Ethbaal that was 09:45 the God that they worshiped, Baal the God 09:47 tbat she worshiped, daughters of men. 09:52 Ahab, God choose him a King, son of God, 09:55 but when he linked himself what happened? 09:57 He went down, she didn't come up, right, 10:00 and see then what happens. So, and then 10:01 Romans 1:14, Romans 8:14: For as many as are 10:05 led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 10:09 And so John you have the proper context here, 10:10 this is not talking about angels procreating and 10:13 impregnating them, because angels are not 10:15 beings that were told to be fruitful and multiply. 10:19 That's right, in fact they serve the Lord in 10:21 the heavens and they were the host and if the 10:24 word angel is messenger or one who ministers, 10:28 and so they were the ones that did God's 10:30 bidding as things needed to go forward and, 10:33 and the government begin to operate and 10:36 you know we have this very narrow minded view 10:38 too that maybe this world is the only one, 10:40 earth is the only world that God created. 10:42 I believe differently, and I believe that God's 10:45 government was not only created and established 10:49 by Him based upon His laws, but the ones 10:52 that He choose to begin to put into operation 10:54 and to conduct the operation of that 10:57 government were the heavenly host, right, 10:59 the angels. They were never told to be 11:02 fruitful and multiply, no. If that was the case 11:05 what would the angels, the fallen angels be 11:08 doing most significantly after He only took a third, 11:12 He would try to procreate as fast as He could evil, 11:16 evil angels to grow His army and to be able to 11:20 conquer the enemy, the foe which was God's, 11:23 God's army. There is no evidence of that 11:25 happening, no, not at all. And so here's why 11:27 I start off that way, because usually I started 11:29 off by saying well the sons of God are these, 11:31 the sons and daughters of men are these, 11:32 which you stated very clearly, that's an 11:34 important point. But the reasons I say it 11:36 because the burden of proof is not on you 11:39 to prove that this isn't fallen angels were having 11:44 relationships with men or with women, right. 11:48 The burden of proof is on them to show that 11:52 angels have the ability to procreate, because 11:54 there is no evidence whatsoever of that 11:56 anywhere in scripture. In fact all the evidence 12:00 John, there is, this is, I wouldn't call it 12:03 acts of Jesus, I would say is probably good 12:05 acts of Jesus which is what we're suppose to be 12:07 doing, pulling out of the text what's there, 12:08 I think it's there is good evidence, so to suggest 12:12 that one of the reasons that Satan was so jealous 12:16 Adam and Eve was their ability to procreate. 12:19 Right. they could not, that's a very good. 12:21 He could not, they could. He looked upon them 12:24 as hey what's going on here, and sought to bring 12:27 that, them down. He also saw a way that he 12:30 could create a vast army of people that would 12:33 be sympathizers of his, you know not just the 12:36 third that he took, but hey if I can get them 12:39 who can procreate to propagate evil, 12:42 I can have a kingdom of my own. You see there is 12:44 evidence that suggests that he couldn't which is 12:47 why he sought the world to take it down because 12:50 they could, Adam and Eve could. That's right. 12:52 So, I'm looking here and I'm saying the evidence 12:56 of burden of proof is on them to establish that 12:59 there is an ability of the angels, the fallen angels 13:01 to procreate, it's just not there. 13:03 And angels are never referred to as beings that 13:06 formed in the image of God, or even men or women, 13:09 men or women, right they're not referred to 13:11 in a context of agenda, very, very good point. 13:13 Who said the angels are men, who says they 13:15 are women, they are not them neither. 13:16 And they only take on the form of the appearance 13:19 that, that the Lord allows them to in order to 13:21 communicate to us. But here's the point, 13:26 well here's another scripture I should say to 13:27 build this point on, Hebrews 1 verse 13 and 14 13:31 once again given the clear identity of who 13:33 the angels are. But to which of the angels 13:36 did He said any time: Sit at My right hand, 13:39 till I make your enemies your footstool? 13:42 Are they not all ministering spirits sent 13:47 forth to minister for those who will inherit 13:50 salvation? They are not procreating beings, 13:53 they are ministering spirits, and so you are 13:57 talking about some serious stuff here, yeah. 13:59 You know, I don't want to even go down that 14:02 road, yeah. It just, it doesn't make sense, 14:04 it just really is an argument that makes me 14:06 say oh! I don't even know where the basis 14:08 for this is coming from, because there's a lot of 14:10 thought doesn't go into it. You know the 14:11 last thing I would say will, some would suggest 14:14 well how did giant, how are there giants then? 14:17 Well, the record in history will establish 14:21 and show can show very clearly that as you go 14:23 back in time, there maybe sometimes where they 14:26 were some very small you know men and women 14:29 during times especially with earth was challenged 14:31 through disasters and other things that happened. 14:33 But some of the record, the fossilized record is 14:36 actually showing that there were some pretty 14:38 tall beings that existed back in time. 14:42 That's right, so you know, that's your lineage 14:44 for example, that's right. You're 6' 9½, 6' 10; 14:49 surely John is from the lineage of Enoch, 14:52 the giants. Surely I'm, I'm not a descendant of 14:55 the daughter of men now. Tribe of Gad, 14:58 remember that, but anyway all jokes aside 15:01 truly friends what we're saying here is 15:04 the creation of men, the creation of man formed 15:09 in the image of God, women taken from the 15:12 side of men. When one goes away, strays away, 15:17 daughters of men, one is called to follow God, 15:21 sons of God, that's simply what that's saying, 15:24 that's the best way to, nothing more than that, 15:25 that's right. Here's another text, they just 15:29 gave me the text and I think that they want 15:30 an answer to this. Please help me understand 15:33 this verse I am a Sabbath keeper and the text 15:37 that they're asking for, matter of fact go 15:39 with us to Colossians 2 verse 16, John this is a, 15:44 this is kind of a, this is a regular, 15:46 common one yup. Yeah this guys shows up a lot. 15:49 We try not to give it as much press as others 15:53 give it, because if we answer this every time 15:55 it came up, we'd answer it in every program, 15:58 every program, almost every program. 16:00 Colossians 2 we're gonna read verse, start with 16:05 verse 14, okay, speaking of Christ and 16:13 not legalism, this particular text by the way 16:16 we're referring to the importance of Christology 16:19 centering our hopes on Christ. But Paul was 16:23 addressing an issue that, that was bordering on 16:26 legalism where people were talking about meats 16:28 and drinks and new moons and Sabbaths. 16:30 And by the way let's go ahead and I'll read 16:32 this together, it says speaking about Christ: 16:36 "Having wiped out the handwriting of 16:38 requirements that was against us, which was 16:41 contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the 16:44 way having nailed it to the cross. 16:48 Having disarmed principalities and powers, 16:53 He made a public spectacle of them, 16:56 triumphing over them in it." So let no one judge 17:00 you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival 17:04 or a new moon or Sabbaths, key part of the verse: 17:09 Which are a shadow of things to come, 17:12 but the substance is of Christ. Now how could 17:17 festivals and new moons and Sabbath be a 17:19 shadow of things to come, this Sabbaths and I think 17:23 that's the focal point of the question, 17:26 a new moon or Sabbaths, meat or drinks. 17:29 If you look at that entire context you'll see the 17:32 Bible talks about a ceremonial system that had 17:36 everything to do with meats and drinks and, 17:39 various washings and carnal ordinances, 17:43 go with me to the book of Hebrews. Hebrews, 17:46 I refer to as the, some people look at Hebrew 17:49 almost as a displaced book, because it has so 17:53 much Old Testament language in it. 17:55 But Hebrews is not a displaced book, 17:58 let's go ahead and I'm gonna read to you verse, 18:03 verse 1 of Hebrews chapter 10, verse 1 of Hebrews 18:10 chapter 10: For the law, having a shadow of good 18:14 things to come, and not the very image of 18:17 those things, can never with these same 18:21 sacrifices, which they continually, which they 18:24 continually year by year, which they offer 18:27 continually year by year make those who 18:29 approach perfect. For then would they have a 18:33 ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, 18:37 once purged, would have had no more 18:40 conscience of sins. But in those sacrifices 18:43 there is a reminder of sins every year, 18:49 every year, in other words. So, the shadow 18:50 involves sacrifices, the shadow involves 18:53 sacrifices, not the moral law of God, 18:54 not the moral law of God. Matter of fact, 18:57 when you look at the ordinances let's go back 18:59 to Hebrews 9, Hebrews 9 and it says, 19:05 now in verse 6, Hebrews 9 verse 6: 19:09 Now when these things had been thus prepared, 19:11 the priests always went into the first part of the 19:14 tabernacle, performing the services. 19:16 But into the second part the high priest went 19:18 alone once a year, not without blood, 19:21 which he offered for himself and for the 19:23 people's sins committed in ignorance. 19:26 The Holy Spirit indicating this, that the way 19:30 into the Holiest of All was not yet made 19:32 manifest while the first tabernacle was 19:35 still standing. And let's look at this verse 10, 19:38 it talks about what these things were, 19:40 it says speaking about these ordinances 19:41 if you look at verse 9: Even the first covenant 19:44 had ordinances of divine service and the 19:46 earthly sanctuary. But verse 10 tells you 19:48 what they stood in concerning only with 19:51 foods or meat as the King James Version 19:53 says and drinks various washings and fleshy or 19:57 carnal ordinances, imposed until the time 20:01 of reformation. Breaking all that down is simply 20:04 this, the Sabbaths that were referred to the, 20:06 they are outlined and let's look at few of those 20:09 Sabbaths, because there are many Sabbaths 20:11 referred to in the Old Testament. 20:13 And by the way these Sabbaths are ceremonial 20:17 observances and but the Bible Sabbath that was 20:21 blessed by God the weekly Seventh-day Sabbath 20:25 was made at the end of creation week before 20:29 sin ever entered the world. Do you wanna 20:31 register on that before we go any further? 20:33 No, the point is very well made and the thing 20:36 I would add is that the ceremonial Sabbaths 20:39 were always referred to by the Lord as 20:40 belonging to Israel, right, where as the 20:44 Seventh-day Sabbath he always referred to 20:45 as being his very own. As the matter of fact 20:47 he referred to the ceremony Sabbaths as 20:49 her Sabbaths in Hosea, right. Her Sabbaths, 20:53 but when he referred to his, he says my Sabbaths, 20:57 but now let's look at some Sabbaths that refer to, 20:59 and by the way the word Sabbath means convocation. 21:03 So, there were many Sabbaths talked about 21:06 in the ceremonial system that had nothing to do 21:08 with the weekly Sabbath that was given at the 21:11 end of creation week. Let's look at Leviticus 21:13 chapter 23 turn your Bibles there, 21:17 Leviticus chapter 23 alright, and we're going 21:21 to see some here. Okay, and I'm turning to that, 21:26 and here we are okay, okay 21:30 Leviticus chapter 23 verse, verse let's start 21:34 with verse 39, I'm gonna jump around 21:37 a little bit here. "Also on the fifteenth day of 21:41 the seventh month, when you have gather in 21:44 the fruit of the land, you shall keep the 21:46 feast of the Lord for seven days; 21:49 when on the first day there shall be a sabbath-rest, 21:54 and on the eighth day a sabbath-rest. 21:58 Notice that, not seventh day, it says first day 22:01 and eighth day, these were ceremonial rituals, 22:06 and notice what he is referring to the feast of 22:08 the Lord. But now let's look at verse 24: 22:12 "Speak to the children of Israel, saying: 22:15 'In the seventh month, on the first day of 22:19 the month, you shall have a sabbath-rest, 22:23 a memorial of blowing of trumpets, 22:25 a holy convocation. And these weren't falling 22:30 always on the seventh day, no it was rare 22:32 in fact, that they did, these were following on 22:35 various days according to whenever that 22:39 like in this case the first day of the month 22:42 in the seventh month fell on. 22:44 Here's another one of verse, verse 32, verse 32: 22:52 It shall be to you a Sabbath of solemn rest, 22:57 you shall afflict your souls; on the ninth day 23:00 of the month at evening, from evening to evening, 23:03 you shall celebrate your Sabbath." 23:05 So you see there when was this, 23:06 the ninth day you have the first day, 23:09 you have the eight day, you have the ninth day, 23:11 you also had the seventh year rest which was 23:15 refer to as a cycle or like a jubilee cycle, 23:18 but here's another one, verse, verse 2, 23:23 well actually verse, Leviticus chapter 25 23:26 verse 2 and verse 4: "Speak to the children of 23:29 Israel, and say to them, When you come into the 23:32 land which I give you, then the land shall keep 23:35 a Sabbath to the Lord, the land now. 23:39 But Mark chapter 2 verse 27 and 28 says, 23:42 the Sabbath was made for man, but here you find 23:45 the land and what that actually meant was 23:47 every seven years when they follow the 23:49 agricultural cycles. In the seventh year 23:53 if I had seven parcels of land, I would let the 23:56 land that I build, that I harvested rest in the 24:00 seventh year. So, that it will replenish itself 24:03 that was the land taking rest. Here's another one 24:06 look at verse 4 of Leviticus chapter 25: 24:11 But in the seventh year there shall be a 24:14 Sabbath of solemn rest for the land, 24:17 a Sabbath to the Lord. You shall neither sow 24:21 your field nor prune your vineyard. 24:24 All these Sabbath rests, these were shadows 24:27 though, of over to come and by the way 24:30 some of the other ones John you had the 24:31 Passover which was the Sabbath rest, 24:34 you have the Feast of Tabernacles as Sabbath 24:36 rest, you have the Feast of Wheat or the 24:39 Wave Sheaf offering, all these were referred 24:41 to as Sabbaths but what do they mean? 24:43 They pointed to the coming of the Messiah, 24:45 and I wind it up by going to the book of Galatians, 24:48 all these things were shadows that's why 24:50 the Bible says Paul was saying let no one judge 24:54 you now in meats and drinks, and new moon, 24:56 and Sabbaths, because the substance has come, 24:59 the substance has come and the 25:01 substance is Christ. That's to whom all these 25:05 ceremonies pointed and here's the point, 25:08 you wanna make a point before I go further. 25:10 No, finish your point. Okay, hear this, 25:13 Galatians 3 verse 19, Galatians 3 verse 19: 25:18 What purpose then does the law serve? 25:22 And catch this: It was added because of 25:26 transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom 25:30 the promise was made; and it was appointed 25:33 through angels by the hand of a mediator. 25:37 Now, these ceremonial rituals were not in the 25:40 beginning when God bless the world at the 25:42 end of creation week, they were added after 25:45 the fall of men, and they were added for a time 25:48 until the seed should come and who is the seed? 25:52 The seed is Christ, alright these were the shadows, 25:55 that's a nutshell of it. Yeah you know Daniel 25:57 also in his prayer, in Daniel 9 talks about these 26:01 two laws that's what he was essentially saying 26:03 here, there are two laws that refer to throughout 26:06 the New Testament and the Old Testament, 26:08 but what happens is when you get to the 26:11 New Testament, it's a little less clear until you 26:15 really dive into the language which law its 26:17 referring to, you know what I'm saying? 26:19 In the Old Testament you really know, 26:20 because the context is there and they are 26:22 clearly talking about the law in its form, right. 26:26 But in New Testament, so many times 26:27 just says law, right, into the law. 26:29 So, we have to go back and link the language of 26:32 the context of the New Testament back to 26:34 the old to see. And if you look in Daniel chapter 9, 26:38 Daniel 9, lets go there, verse 10, okay, and 11, 26:42 you'll see something here that Daniel is praying 26:44 recognizing the two although the bases, 26:49 the reasons for the two laws and he says 26:51 here in verse 10: We have not obeyed, 26:54 speaking to the Lord in his prayer, 26:55 we have not obeyed the voice of the Lord our God 26:58 to walk in His laws, which He has set before us by 27:01 His servants the prophets. Yes, all Israel 27:05 has transgressed Your law, okay, now okay, 27:09 so His law the law of God, and then what is 27:13 happened and has departed so as not to 27:15 obey Your voice; therefore the curse of the oath 27:18 written in the Law of Moses, that's right, 27:20 Moses law, okay that's isn't God's law, 27:23 one refer to His law of Moses the servant of God 27:26 has been poured out on us, because we have 27:28 sinned against Him. So, the reason I bring 27:31 that passage up is because John the law of 27:34 God has always existed, that's right, 27:36 the Ten Commandment law of God has always 27:38 existed, and it's because of the, the people sin 27:42 against that law, that the law of Moses 27:45 and it ceremonies were added to the list of all 27:50 the laws given to the children of Israel, right. 27:53 That's why in the most holy place you had 27:56 the Ark of the Covenant, the covenant being the 28:01 foundation of His plan of salvation and the 28:04 Ten Commandment law that resides in that 28:06 Ark of the Covenant, that's right. 28:08 Then you have the Law of Moses which they 28:09 placed outside of the Ark against it as a witness, 28:13 a testimony against the children of Israel on the 28:15 side to testify to them that they broke 28:18 the foundational law of God. 28:21 So, as Paul is coming back here in Colossians 2 28:24 what he is saying to the people here in the 28:25 church is, some of you are fighting about going 28:28 back to this Law of Moses, and the ceremony 28:31 specifically the ceremonies that were added 28:33 because of the laws you transgressed 28:36 God's commandment you transgressed. 28:39 But when Christ went to the cross he nailed 28:42 those ceremonies, He fulfilled all those things 28:44 and He put them on the cross along with the 28:47 reality of the sacrifice Himself. 28:50 And from here going forward by faith we 28:52 trust in Jesus, who has accomplished those things 28:56 for us, yet it doesn't change the standing of 28:58 the moral law of God, the Ten Commandments. 29:00 No it doesn't. And so Paul is saying here 29:03 nothing to do about the Ten Commandments, 29:04 but the law of the ceremonies of the 29:06 sanctuary, and the sacrifices that they point 29:10 to Christ, and so people throw out 29:13 what you call the baby with the bath water 29:15 they say oh! This is all the Law of God; 29:17 this is the Ten Commandments not so, 29:18 right. The reference here clearly is to 29:21 the Law of Moses specifically with regard 29:23 to the ceremonies. And so if you followed the 29:25 shadow which is the tail of the actual image, 29:28 why would you need the shadow when you 29:30 get to the image, that's right. 29:32 You don't need the shadow any longer, 29:34 the ceremony of the lamb that was slain 29:36 in the Old Testament referred to the lamb 29:38 Christ Jesus, that's why when Jesus was crucified 29:41 the lamb, the physical little lamb that was 29:44 about to be killed was set free, 29:45 because the lamb of God Jesus 29:47 was the one that has given His life. 29:49 When the high priest, when the, the temple 29:52 curtains were torn from top to bottom bringing 29:55 to end the earthly high priest function, 29:57 because Jesus now become the higher priest, 30:00 all those were shadows. The Candelabra, 30:04 the seven golden candlesticks, 30:05 pointing to Jesus the light of the world. 30:08 The Laver which was water pointed to Jesus, 30:11 the water of life. The table of Showbread 30:14 pointed to Jesus, the bread of life, 30:16 why do we need to go back to that Showbread 30:18 after Jesus comes when we got the bread of life 30:20 right among us, that's right. 30:22 See, so that's what it's saying all these were 30:24 shadows of things and they were all encroached, 30:26 and all the observances were encroached in 30:28 something called Sabbaths plural, 30:31 that's why you find meats, drinks, holidays, 30:34 holy days, new moons and sabbath days that's 30:37 what you find. Let me give them 30:38 one more text and some of you like to write down 30:39 text and I'm not gonna read this one but you 30:41 like to write them down compares specifically 30:44 Colossians 2:14 and 16 with 1 Chronicles 23:31, 30:51 okay. Do your own research, 30:53 I want you to compare those two and see what 30:55 Paul possibly could be referring to in this 30:58 passage as you go back to 1 Chronicles 23:31, 31:01 okay, alright, good. Wow, we covered some pretty 31:06 good questions here today, some of that required 31:08 sometime. But thank you for your questions 31:10 and your comments. If you have any more 31:12 questions sent to us, here's the information 31:14 you need housecalls@3abn.org, 31:17 that's housecalls@3abn.org and we really 31:21 appreciate your participation in making 31:24 this program all that it is. 31:25 Well, we're gonna continue in relationships 31:30 John we started by laying the foundation, 31:31 looking back in the Garden of Eden when God bless 31:35 the earth with a man and a woman. 31:37 Pastor C.A once said he says: 31:42 we all have different mothers, 31:43 but we have the same father. 31:45 Now, when you think about that, 31:47 Adam is our father, Eve is the original 31:50 mother right, but what he in essence is saying 31:53 we're all have the Lord as our God, 31:56 but in the earth the gift that God has given be 32:00 fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth. 32:05 So, a lot of people nowadays and you 32:07 kind of a tongue-in-cheek say you're my brother 32:10 from another mother. You know, you heard that 32:13 phrase before? Yeah, yeah, 32:14 my brother from another mother. 32:15 But we talked about how important it is not to 32:19 get caught up in the ethereal transient things 32:22 that people think are the foundation of 32:25 relationships. You know if I brought some 32:28 shingles to your house to put on the roof, 32:30 and I didn't lay a foundation, 32:32 didn't put walls up, didn't have anything 32:33 to put on there you'll say what's, 32:35 what's that all about? Well, I don't want it to 32:37 rain on you when it rains where is the rest of 32:40 it you see? And many people start from 32:42 the top instead of from the bottom, yeah. 32:44 So, let's look at some of these things, alright. 32:46 Let's do that, we're talking about 32:47 relationships now and I, you know naturally when 32:50 you go back to relationships, 32:51 you've got to start with the marriage 32:53 relationship which is where we began here in the 32:56 last program. And then as we move forward here 32:58 to talk about the marriage relationship I 33:00 think one of the things we covered is, 33:01 how can a marriage become not just a marriage but 33:04 a great marriage? What kind of things do 33:07 you need to do, we talked about 33:08 some things leading up to marriage. 33:09 You know how you're coding them and making sure 33:13 that your mind is working, not just your 33:15 emotions, that's right. You're trusting the Lord, 33:17 you are saying Lord if this isn't meant to be I'm 33:19 okay with you ending this relationship early. 33:22 I think John you made the comment it's better 33:24 to cry now than later, that's right. 33:26 So there are lots of things we saw as far as 33:28 leading up to marriage and what to look for, 33:29 and making sure that you are compatible, 33:31 having some counseling that you go through making 33:34 sure that you are compatible in other ways, 33:35 not just your belief system. 33:37 But, now we're getting to, we are starting to 33:40 talk to those who are married, 33:41 and how do you stay married? 33:43 How do you make your marriage an effective 33:45 marriage, one that is successful that honors God 33:48 and gives Him glory? And there are several 33:50 things that we haven't talked about yet that we 33:52 would like to do. But one of them that we 33:54 did mention was that you never stop coding your 33:58 spouse, that's right. You do those things 34:01 that let them know that you are thinking 34:03 about them. I think come on guys, 34:05 one of the biggest knocks on us is we far too few 34:09 times do we ever let them know in someway 34:13 whether be flowers, little gifts something that 34:15 we were thinking about them that day. 34:18 We just, we're not wired, when our spouse, 34:23 my wife comes to me and says John, 34:26 I was thinking about you today. 34:27 I'm thinking cool, you know hope they 34:29 were good thoughts. But if I say to her, honey, 34:34 my day was busy but I was thinking about you 34:37 today. She goes really; it's more to her that 34:42 means more to her, because she operates 34:45 from an emotional connection perspective, 34:48 it's a oneness she has with me, 34:50 and she wants to know that I'm thinking about her 34:52 more than I care about that, 34:54 yes it's important that my wife thinks about me, 34:56 but it doesn't make me melt, 34:58 what makes me melt, you should melt John, 35:00 what makes me melt is when she dresses up really 35:03 pretty and she looks great. 35:04 And I'm in love with her more than by the way 35:07 that she is pretty, but she does things 35:09 in a way that appeals to me that wow she really, 35:13 she is dressing up so she can attract me that's 35:15 something I'm visual, you know we are 35:17 visual beings. And so we just operate on 35:20 different levels, and we have to recognize 35:22 that in our marriage because then they 35:24 will know, they will sense that we do care about 35:27 them and love them. You know people get 35:30 married a lot of times and they forget what 35:32 really got that spark going. 35:35 And I always say it this way, 35:36 some people when they first meet they are face 35:39 to face when they, when they start living, 35:41 when they get married they are back to back, 35:43 they look in different directions. 35:45 Remember face to face is the most important 35:47 thing, when a person make eye contact with you 35:50 and you, it's impossible to smile, 35:53 I always did this exercise when I'm 35:55 doing seminars. I always say smile 35:57 as much as you can say to somebody I really hate 36:00 you, I really do, I mean you wouldn't take 36:02 them seriously, yeah, this really doesn't work 36:04 or you frown and say I really love you. 36:08 Try to just make it as more bitterness, 36:11 unpleasant as possible, lets say I love you, 36:14 I don't believe a word of that. 36:15 You see, but connect them together, 36:18 and a lot of times people forget that it is when 36:21 the thoughts are not guarded, 36:23 that the relationship starts being chiseled 36:26 apart, did you get that? 36:27 It's not just the nice things, the flowers and 36:29 spending time together, but when the thoughts 36:32 are not guarded and when the thoughts are not 36:35 invested on each other, then the chiseling or 36:38 the erosion in the relationship begin. 36:40 And trust breaks down, yeah, and you know what 36:42 it's not always thoughts on other, 36:44 another man or another woman, 36:46 but sometimes people become workaholics, 36:48 or very career minded or some others put all 36:53 their attention on their children. 36:54 And the father feels like one of the children and 36:57 then father is told to call his wife mom in the 37:01 presence of the kids, so he calls her mamma. 37:04 I've heard this is ridiculous; 37:06 parents have done that to try to condition their 37:09 children to call the mother mamma. 37:11 And then mothers you hear them say, 37:13 the dad say well call me papa. 37:15 So, you know she say papa and she's calling her 37:18 husband papa, and I've heard older 37:20 people doing this, and I said how long 37:22 you guys are married? 61 years, 37:24 why are you still calling your husband papa, 37:26 when the kids have grown up and moved away? 37:28 Yeah, they did that when they were children and 37:30 what it does? It tends to chisel away 37:33 at the intimacy, yeah, that God intends 37:36 for wife and husband to have, 37:37 one principle I'll show you the scripture here. 37:40 Love your children, be in love with your mate, 37:43 don't be in love with your children? 37:45 Right, some people are in love with 37:47 their children. Love your children, 37:50 but be in love with your mate, your husband, 37:52 or your wife, or your husband, 37:54 your mate is first. Right, your mate is first, 37:56 you know the children came along, 37:59 you have to mold them and shape them, 38:00 and don't, another point is don't seek to be your 38:03 children's best friend, but be the best friend 38:06 of your husband or wife, right. 38:08 You have to be the parent of the children, 38:10 they may not like what you, how you parent? 38:12 But here's a few text to guard your heart, 38:15 to guard your thoughts. I like that, 38:18 don't let your senses trap you, 38:21 because it could happen, alright here's one. 38:24 Proverbs 23 verse 7: For as he thinketh in 38:29 his heart, so is he. Right, and I must say, 38:32 the more you think about the more you become 38:34 what you are thinking about. 38:35 That's right, yeah, you know I one of the little 38:37 things, let's do some practical, okay. 38:39 We've done counseling before, we've experience 38:42 the stuff and you many more years than I have 38:44 but think about this let's say that you're tired 38:50 of your wife telling you what to do. 38:53 And you start getting this attitude she's really 38:56 controlling, she is just a controlling person, 39:00 the more I think about her being a controlling 39:03 person I start to look that everything she does 39:05 how controlling it is. Right, all of a sudden 39:07 you put, and another thing for her just telling 39:09 me to pick up my underwear off the floor. 39:12 By the way I don't usually have to be told 39:14 to do that, but little things like this, 39:17 you know put your books away, 39:19 you know clean up the office is really kind, 39:22 your side of the office is really, 39:23 I'm just giving you some examples, for example, 39:25 the more I hear maybe some of those suggestions 39:28 from my wife, rather than thinking them as okay 39:30 honey I love too, you know sorry about that. 39:32 And having a loving interaction I think she 39:35 is really controlling, and I start to 39:37 dwell on that, and then I start disliking her 39:40 for being so controlling, or fighting back, 39:42 and we're fighting back and I become controlling. 39:44 And these things stream roll, 39:46 they start innocently or maybe not so innocently, 39:49 but they start intentionally or 39:51 and then they become intentional, yeah, 39:54 like a war, and destroys relationship, 39:56 little things like that, right, and it's amazing 39:58 what can happen. Let's talk about and 40:00 sometimes the reason why it's important to guard 40:02 your thoughts that scripture says: 40:04 For as he thinks in his heart, so is he. 40:07 Make sure that you know what your spouse said 40:10 because sometimes especially in a heated 40:13 moment, and I teach couples about active 40:15 listening, and how to ask for what you want, 40:19 and know that you're going to get it, 40:20 as compared to passive listening. 40:23 Some of us are passive in our listening; 40:25 we would listen long enough for that person to 40:27 stop what he or she says, 40:29 so that we could respond. 40:31 You know we're waiting, we think about the 40:32 next thing we wanna say. You know, we wanna, 40:34 we wanna come back just like tit for tat, 40:37 instead of listening and say am I hearing you 40:41 say you know a lot of times we do that to 40:44 strangers. I once said to a person if he was to 40:47 treat each other like you treat strangers then 40:49 you would have a great relationship, 40:50 because we always put our best foot forward when 40:52 we meet strangers. But here's the key don't 40:55 read into something more than as being said that 40:59 is a real big part of the chiseling away of 41:02 relationships, because somebody may say whatever 41:07 they say, and the person would say, 41:09 are you calling me fat? Yeah, yeah, no, 41:14 I'm just saying I don't like the way that 41:16 dress fits you. And I may not have 41:17 used the exact perfect words, right, 41:19 you don't want to read into the motives I think 41:21 is what we're saying. I know one, 41:23 Rochelle has done this a seminar, 41:25 she recently did it on thinking things through 41:28 clearly. And she uses the text in 41:31 Philippians 4 verse 8 where it says: 41:34 Finally, my brethren, whatever things are true, 41:36 and it goes on to say some other things think on 41:39 these things, she spends just time on true. 41:42 And in other words if someone is saying 41:45 something I don't wanna think something that's 41:46 not true. So, sometimes I need to ask 41:49 clarification what you're saying before I assume 41:51 something, because after when I assume something 41:53 I'm assuming something that's not true, right. 41:55 And that's what you're saying you know, 41:57 you are saying I'm fat, I didn't say that I may 42:00 have pick the better words but I'm not 42:01 saying that. They are thinking something that's 42:03 not true that you have said something that you 42:06 didn't say. I call it the avalanche, very true. 42:10 When you think something that's not true it 42:12 avalanches, we use a phrase snowball, 42:15 but I like the word avalanche better because 42:16 the snowball sometimes has to pick up momentum, 42:18 but in some cases it's true. 42:20 Avalanche, you just self destruct. 42:22 Oh! You don't love me anymore, 42:24 and you know we have people that come for 42:26 counseling and I think what was the problem, 42:28 what he said to me, what did he say? 42:30 And then the guy and sometimes let me just put 42:34 it in context, sometimes it's other way 42:35 around what the wife said to her husband, 42:37 not just also what, always with the husband 42:40 not just also what, always with the 42:41 husband says to the wife. 42:42 So, the key point here is whatever, 42:43 whatever is being said by your spouse make sure 42:45 that you hear and understand what is 42:47 being said clarify and address the issue, 42:50 and when you have a problem don't ever say. 42:53 If somebody says and this is the trap, 42:55 what's the problem? I mean that right away 42:57 says you are the problem. You know, 42:59 what happens if you go to a dentist John and 43:01 he says you are the toothache, 43:03 well how do you get rid of the toothache? 43:04 You get rid off you, instead of saying you 43:07 have a toothache, I always say whenever 43:10 there is a challenge in a marriage say we, 43:12 we have a problem, we need to find a solution, 43:16 we are in debt, we have lost our way, 43:20 we need to build a stronger relationship, 43:23 its a we. You know and there is other, 43:25 there are two sides to this too, 43:26 and there is different ways we can say, 43:28 so we say it a lot of different ways, 43:29 and hope that maybe it clicks with some. 43:32 But one other way of saying this is, 43:33 we've got to be careful that we're not saying 43:36 things that are offensive, that are offending 43:38 our spouse. Oh! Yeah, but we also need to make 43:41 sure that we're not deliberately being 43:43 offended. You can go around offending somebody 43:47 but that you can go also around that someone 43:50 who is constantly offended. 43:51 Offense can do that, and so I don't want to go 43:54 around looking to be you know who's gonna offend 43:56 me next, and look for the things that offend you, 44:00 because that just makes it worse. 44:01 And that works in relationship even outside 44:03 of marriage, and I think you are making that 44:04 implementation there. Yeah, absolutely, 44:06 you know the other thing to you say it guard 44:08 your thoughts, the other way of doing that 44:10 is think about what you're thinking about, 44:11 that's right. Somebody said think about what you 44:14 are thinking about, in another words just 44:15 I can't tell you there is some that just you've 44:20 talked to them individually, 44:21 try to counsel them. And they just, 44:24 they are talking, talking, talking, talking, 44:25 talking, and I went to visit this one girl 44:28 speaking of, you know someone, 44:29 it's not a marriage issue, 44:30 but I went to visit her, because she had gone 44:33 through Bible studies and really you know 44:35 honestly 6, 7 different Bible studies on the same 44:40 kind of stuff. And I was wondering 44:42 if she's to make a decision for the Lord, 44:44 so I went to visit her with the person who was 44:46 doing Bible studies, and I sat down at the table. 44:49 And I, there from the moment I went in that door 44:51 she did not stop talking for about 20 minutes, 44:57 and the next subject. And I try to jump in 44:59 a couple of time, she just kept talking, 45:00 was the buzz saw, and I'm thinking I'm 45:05 starting to conclude she doesn't want to hear, 45:06 she wants to just talk. And so sometimes we have 45:09 to think about how others might perceive us, 45:12 what are we really saying, are we constantly 45:15 talking, are we constantly saying things that 45:17 offend others, or are we constantly defending 45:20 ourselves, are we constantly talking? 45:22 Let's start thinking about what we're thinking 45:23 about and not allow those offenses, 45:26 those damaging things that we can say in our 45:30 relationships occur. Some people are socially 45:33 starved and so the reason why they take seven 45:35 series of the same lessons because it guarantees 45:40 somebody is gonna be in their space that they 45:42 can talk to, which they use it 45:44 as a method to communicate, 45:45 but they have so much to say. 45:47 I know people that sometimes come from 45:49 really, really quiet homes, when they get out 45:52 in public they are very vocal and, 45:53 you know just out there outlandish, 45:56 because they very, they are in a quiet 45:58 guarded atmosphere sometimes, 46:00 so you don't get chance to talk very, 46:01 very much. But here's another one guarding 46:04 your thoughts, another one Exodus 20 verse 17, 46:07 this is the context of the marriage and by the 46:09 way John this one applies broader than just what 46:11 it says: "Thou shall not covet thy neighbor's 46:14 wife," covet, the word covet. 46:18 Because there are some women that covet thy 46:20 neighbor's husband and there are some men that 46:23 covet thy neighbor's wife which means who is your 46:27 neighbor anybody that's not you. 46:28 Okay, yeah, so be content, be content and work 46:34 on your own garden you see. 46:37 So, that whole thing about coveting what is, 46:40 what is not yours, and by the way you can't covet 46:43 what already is yours, and you can't get outside 46:47 of a relationship where God ordained to be only 46:50 in a relationship. So, coveting is another part 46:53 one. You know, you almost wonder if coveting the 46:56 things you already have might be a good thing 46:58 because it brings contentment. 47:01 I think sometimes maybe a man if he's not pleased 47:07 with his wife, he fails to realize how desirable 47:12 she could be to many other men. 47:15 And yet she is not desirable to him, 47:17 that's right, so you know you have these 47:19 situations were he doesn't covet her anymore, 47:21 although she is his wife. He doesn't admire her. 47:24 He doesn't admire her anymore, 47:26 but he doesn't even want her, 47:27 that's why we use the word covet, 47:28 I mean covet is a bad word, but I'm just saying 47:30 that if we would be more content or covet the 47:33 very things that we have and be content with 47:35 that, or jealous of your their own wife, 47:36 jealous of their own wife, 47:37 and not in the bad way but just wanting her 47:39 with him, just for me, that she, 47:42 he wouldn't be so willing to just discard her. 47:46 There are so many other men that would love to 47:48 have a relationship with my wife, 47:50 I'm privileged to have the relationship with my 47:53 wife. That's a very good analogy, 47:55 I said that to my wife one Sabbath morning, 47:59 and this has happened on number of occasions, 48:00 sometimes I stand back and I teach husbands, 48:02 sometime stand back and look at your wife. 48:06 And look at her the way you looked at her years 48:09 ago when you first admire her and just really 48:11 and one day Angie said to me, 48:15 why you're looking at me that way? 48:16 I said honey I'm admiring you, because if I don't 48:22 somebody else will and I don't want to even 48:24 think of that thought, that's right, 48:25 I'm admiring you. And she said but you 48:27 are making me uncomfortable, 48:28 I said well I have the license to make you 48:30 uncomfortable, that's right, you see, 48:32 so because there are other men when you feel to 48:34 realize the great gift that God has placed in 48:36 your hand, people start coveting when you 48:41 neglect. And you know what the natural, 48:43 the natural human being let's use this broad and 48:47 I'm using this and everybody wants to be 48:48 appreciated, this is broader than just a 48:51 marriage relationship. When people don't feel 48:53 that they are being appreciated, 48:54 they're gonna seek someway of getting that 48:57 appreciation, that's right. Even the child who 49:01 starts behaving badly in school because it gets 49:03 them attention at home, because it's the only 49:05 time the mom and dad sits down and takes them out 49:07 to dinner and talks to them. 49:09 You see, so the relationship you are 49:10 talking about here are broader than just you know 49:12 marriage with husband and wife. 49:14 I like Proverbs 4:23, okay. 49:18 Keep thy heart with all diligence, 49:20 for out of it are the issues of life. 49:21 Oh! You know what that means? 49:23 You know so, you know you got 49:24 to keep your heart and your affections toward 49:27 your wife, because if you start to look elsewhere 49:29 then you start to be drawing elsewhere where 49:32 you are gonna go, eventually you are gonna 49:34 choose the elsewhere. Yesterday I saw something 49:37 that really illustrates this text very well, 49:39 I saw a husband and wife they were at the 49:40 Wal-Mart and keep the heart with all diligence, 49:46 for out of it are the issues of life. 49:49 And I would use this illustration, 49:50 sometimes people say, well sticks and stones 49:53 may break my bones, but words will never 49:55 harm me. I had a little tongue tie there; 49:57 you know words do harm people. 49:59 People say that words will never harm me, 50:01 this guy had on the t-shirt, 50:02 he's outside talking, here to children, 50:05 his wife was with him, he had on the T-shirt 50:07 with an arrow pointing towards her and it 50:10 probably it says I'm with idiot. 50:13 Oh! No, and I said to my wife, 50:16 can you imagine that guy wearing that shirt and 50:20 his wife would actually go to the store with him. 50:22 She's probably weaving to just try and mask the 50:25 hurt, chuckle at it or something, 50:27 but it's hurtful. Everywhere he walks 50:30 with her, the arrow is pointing to her, 50:33 I'm with idiot and that's out of the issue and 50:38 the joke. That's not a joke, 50:40 but that's an issue of life, he essence, 50:43 he in essence something motivated him to buy that 50:47 shirt, something motivated him to 50:48 wear that shirt. And he wants to 50:50 make it so clear to everybody outside of his 50:52 home that he thinks of his spouse as an idiot, 50:56 and she bears that, instead of saying I 50:58 refuse to go anywhere with you with that shirt, 51:01 stand your ground because for what maybe a joke 51:05 between the two of you will be perceived as your 51:08 husband or your wife just really, 51:10 really degrading you and then what happens is, 51:13 when that day comes to an end is like so where, 51:17 whatever happened to your idiot? Who? 51:20 Your wife, you keep wearing that shirt 51:22 pointing to her, those are the kind of tags that 51:24 we don't need to have on each other, no. 51:26 But, now let's talk about this part John what 51:29 happens when you're angry, how long should you 51:31 hold on to your anger, that's a good one? 51:35 Yeah, enough to, I say long enough to make sure 51:38 that you have established your rights. 51:43 Okay, obviously you didn't mean, I'm kidding, 51:45 obviously he didn't get that from the Bible, 51:48 but that was a pun, you know, 51:50 I know I say that because that's what people 51:52 are thinking, right, yeah, you know I mean 51:56 how dare they? Yeah, I've a friend of 51:59 mine who knows how to hold the grudge, 52:02 he did real well? Oh! Yeah, 52:05 and he will not talk to you for X amount of 52:08 time and all the sudden he will be okay, yeah. 52:11 But he holds on with his anger, he's upset. 52:13 Is like a clogged drain, it takes a long time 52:16 to go down, yeah. But you know think about it, 52:18 when you're living with your spouse and you're 52:21 doing things like that you're holding on 52:22 your anger, you're not talking to him, 52:24 you just shut them out, how much damage can 52:26 that do in such a quick period of time? 52:29 The same type of damage you can do to your sink, 52:32 can you imagine your sink is clogged and nothing 52:35 can go down, but you still keep putting more 52:37 dirt, more shavings, more toothpaste you know 52:41 spitting into the sink and it just all getting is 52:43 putrefying because you refuse to get rid of that 52:46 issue that's clogging up your relationship, yeah. 52:48 And this is what, this text means I believe 52:51 Ephesians 4 verse 26: Let not the sun go down 52:55 on your wrath, well that applies so much I know 52:58 I've had couples that have said. 53:03 And I'm not picking on anyone, 53:05 but this is kind of more true to women that 53:07 sometimes get emotional. She hasn't spoken to 53:09 me all week, she has ignored me all week, 53:14 she got upset with me on Sunday, 53:15 it's Friday night she hasn't spoken to me 53:17 all week. What about dinner? 53:19 Oh! She gives me dinner, but she doesn't say a 53:20 single thing, she just drops it in front of me 53:22 and walks away. How can you go through 53:24 the day and you know what that, 53:27 that also goes to next what, you give place to 53:29 the devil, you see and it chisels away so much. 53:32 And so at the end of the week what do you say? 53:35 Okay, I'm finally gonna set you free, 53:37 what have you have done you punished your spouse 53:40 so much to the point where that silence has 53:42 become almost a form of abuse rather than sitting 53:46 down and talking about it, and admitting the 53:48 place where you all had the problem. 53:49 And the sun going down on your wrath, 53:51 it doesn't mean don't let your wrath in, right. 53:54 It means that don't let the night come without 53:56 dealing with it face to face and asking for 53:59 forgiveness or saying you sorry or at least 54:01 talking through the issue, because we've all been 54:04 there, I have done it gone to bed being upset 54:08 and turn out the light and just fall asleep and 54:11 not deal with it. And you wake up in 54:12 the morning and what happens, 54:13 you continue right on, because you went 54:15 to bed upset, you continue on being upset. 54:18 You've got to deal with the issue and usually 54:21 that issue is within ourselves and you 54:24 know one of thing, I think that comes into 54:26 play here John is the use of humility. 54:30 I think, if both parties to a marriage, 54:34 both spouses were more humbled, 54:37 I think they would, they have so much more an 54:41 easier time at least dealing with issues and 54:43 stuff, because it says a lot to go up to your 54:46 spouse and say I was wrong, right, 54:49 I'm sorry you didn't may not have appreciate the 54:54 way I interpreted something you did or 54:56 said but I have no, no reason to act like that. 54:59 And I was wrong. I was, I said things hurtful, 55:01 and you know, that takes humility. 55:03 Oh it sure does. But it takes strength 55:05 and its strength of the Lord that makes you 55:07 humble. And try also, when you have contention 55:12 do the thing, the humble thing, pray. 55:18 First you may want to pray if there's a 55:20 contention, say Lord give me a humble spirit, 55:22 so that I can approach my wife or my husband 55:25 and say honey, I'm sorry, let's pray, let's pray. 55:30 Now pray, let's pray together, 55:33 and let's work this thing out. 55:35 Now there are some people that are just so into 55:38 themselves that they do everything they can to 55:40 hold on to the anger as it continues to destroy 55:43 their relationship. But you know keep Christ at 55:45 the center of your home, don't go to bed with 55:47 that thought of anger continuing, 55:49 guard your thoughts and don't let your senses 55:51 trap you, pray together. And here's one that I 55:55 think is a cardinal sin in many relationships is 55:58 people get so angry, they utter the word divorce. 56:02 My wife and I, 26 years, we have never once 56:05 mentioned the word divorce. 56:07 We haven't neither. Praise the Lord. 56:08 Because we decided initially that we would 56:10 never even utter the word, it's not even an 56:11 option, it's not an option, not an option. 56:13 But some people say you know if you don't like it 56:16 leave or hit the road or I'm done with you, 56:19 I don't love you anymore, and those are 56:21 hurtful things. Would you take your 56:23 little poodle who has just soiled the carpet, 56:27 open the front door hold it like a football and 56:29 kick it outside. People wouldn't treat 56:32 their animals that way, yet we forget the 56:34 greatest gift God has given to us is our mate. 56:36 And some times we treat them worse then we would 56:39 to an animal. Yeah. So we have more 56:41 to cover in upcoming programs. 56:43 Would you, and I think the point that we're 56:44 making here as we're wrapping up this segment 56:46 is that is so important to make sure that the 56:48 Lord is with us and everything we do in our 56:51 relationship, He designed marriage, 56:53 He create marriage, He brought marriage, 56:54 two people together to make them one, 56:56 and the moment we start operating, 56:58 you know with a pompous attitude or being angry 57:02 and not being humble and everything then we're 57:05 walking out of the Spirit, we're walking in the 57:06 flesh, and we're destroying our marriages. 57:09 We've got to get back with the Lord and let him 57:11 mold and shape us to the point where the relation 57:14 can begin to function as God designed it to. 57:16 That's right. You know friends when the Bible 57:18 says I can do all things through Christ who 57:20 strengthens me. It means husband, 57:23 wife, mother, father, son, daughter, children 57:26 and parents. Let Christ be the central focus of 57:29 your life and you will be able to see that, 57:30 it can happen. Begin today, 57:32 have a great day in Christ. Amen. |
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