House Calls

Church Unity, Part 2

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00:01 Hello, friends, grab your Bible and a friend
00:03 and sit back as we explore God's Word together
00:05 on this edition of House Calls.
00:22 We want to welcome to another House Calls program.
00:25 Well, we're excited to be here with you in your living room,
00:28 maybe in your car wherever you maybe
00:30 we're just thankful to be part of your day.
00:33 And so House Calls is a program about
00:36 rightly dividing the word of truth.
00:38 We pray that that will be
00:39 part of the program today as it usually is.
00:42 And I want to thank Johnny Dinzey
00:43 for being here with us today.
00:45 Johnny, thank you. Welcome to the program.
00:47 Thank you, thank you once again.
00:48 It's my opportunity to be here and share God's word together.
00:51 Yeah, it's a wonderful thing.
00:53 We-- you know, it's not a duty,
00:56 it's a privilege to be able to dive
00:58 into the Word of God and to share His truth.
01:00 Amen.
01:01 It really is and we consider that every time
01:04 we began and we record one of these programs
01:07 it truly it is a privilege to be able to share
01:09 the everlasting gospel with all the world.
01:12 And we're thankful for that.
01:13 We want to-- not only thank you
01:15 for joining with us in this program
01:17 but we want to make sure
01:18 we're starting off the program on the right foot.
01:20 So let's go to the Lord and pray.
01:22 Johnny, would you lead us in prayer.
01:23 Sure, let's go to the Lord in prayer.
01:26 Our loving heavenly Father,
01:28 we thank You once again for the opportunity
01:30 to come before Your throne of grace.
01:33 We pray Lord, for Your blessing upon everyone
01:35 that stops to listen to this program.
01:37 We pray that Your holy angels
01:39 and Your Holy Spirit will draw on to them,
01:41 close to them and draw close to us.
01:43 And we pray that You will bless Pastor Stanton
01:46 and myself with the Holy Spirit give us the words to speak,
01:49 give us the answers to the questions
01:51 that have come in and we pray that
01:53 You will lead us in our study.
01:55 We ask you Father, for a blessing upon everyone.
01:58 In Jesus name, amen. Amen.
02:01 Our program today the topic of the program today is Unity.
02:06 And that is unity speaking of the church
02:08 and within the church the body of Christ.
02:11 And we want to make sure that you stay tuned for that
02:13 that's usually in the last part
02:14 of our program, the last half hour.
02:16 The first part is your questions.
02:18 And you are a big part of those questions
02:20 and we thank you for sending those in.
02:22 We've got some good ones to cover here today.
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02:47 but we do depend upon you to send those in.
02:50 It's a big part of the program
02:51 and that's exactly where we're heading today.
02:53 And Johnny, I think you have
02:55 a question to start us off with.
02:56 Why don't we go ahead
02:58 and cover our first question here today.
02:59 Let me get that one here-- questions that came in
03:04 and, yes, this one is from Jimmy.
03:10 And Jimmy writes to us.
03:13 Actually, we'd like to ask the next time
03:15 to please include where they're writing from.
03:17 You know, we have viewers
03:19 and listeners all over the world.
03:20 It'll be nice to be able to say
03:22 well, this one is calling from--
03:24 Yeah. Honk Kong may be.
03:26 But Jimmy writes to us and he says
03:28 please explain 1 John 5:16, 17
03:33 where it talks about there being a sin
03:36 that does not lead to death.
03:38 Thank you and God bless, he says
03:40 and actually he says, A. Parker so A wrote to us.
03:47 And so we are thank you for your questions
03:49 and please continue to watch House Calls
03:51 and listen to House Calls
03:53 by whatever form you view the program.
03:56 So this leads us to 1 John Chapter 5.
04:00 Yeah, a very interesting passage to say the least.
04:04 Yes, it is.
04:05 But one that can't be understood.
04:08 Well, here we have the Scriptures
04:10 and we know that he says 16 and 17 correct.
04:16 Is it 16-17? Yes, it is.
04:19 Okay, "If any man see his brother sin
04:23 a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask,
04:27 and he shall give him life for them
04:29 that sin not unto death.
04:31 There is a sin unto death
04:34 I do not say that he shall pray for it.
04:37 All unrighteousness is sin
04:39 and there is a sin not unto death."
04:43 So a very good question
04:47 about what is this sin unto death
04:50 and what is this sin not unto death.
04:52 So we look at the Scriptures
04:55 and we ask ourselves what it is it.
04:57 Because James does not enter into what that sin is.
05:01 Well, John and this one is John.
05:02 Oh, John, yes, John. Yeah.
05:04 So I had James on my mind. Yeah.
05:06 So 1 John, here we see-- we first we have to look
05:10 at what the Bible says concerning sin.
05:13 Of course, when we look at the Bible 1 John 3:4 says
05:16 that sin is the transgression of the law.
05:20 Since sin is the transgression of the law
05:23 then that's how you identify sin.
05:25 You know, some people I wanted to say
05:27 that the law has passed away
05:29 but the Bible tells us
05:30 that sin is the transgression of the law.
05:33 The law remains as the standard
05:35 by which you identify
05:36 what sin is and what is not sin.
05:40 So having said this we want to bring
05:44 your attention to the Book of James.
05:47 This is why I wanted to--
05:50 I want to find this Scripture in the Book of James
05:54 where it gives you a description
06:01 as to the process of sin and the process
06:05 that takes place when a person sins.
06:08 It is in James Chapter 2
06:11 let's see if I can find that here
06:14 perhaps you can look for it.
06:15 Is it James, is it James 1 I think 1--
06:17 James 1. Starting with 14.
06:20 Oh, I am sorry, I am still in 1 John.
06:23 There you go.
06:24 James 1:14 I think it's where you're trying to go right.
06:26 "Each one is tempted
06:27 when he is drawn away by his own desires."
06:28 There you go.
06:30 Would you read that for us then?
06:31 Yeah, "Each one is tempted when he is drawn away
06:32 by his own desires and enticed."
06:35 It says "Then, when desire has conceived,
06:37 it gives birth to sin and sin,
06:39 when it is full-grown, brings forth death."
06:42 There we go, so here we have the Scripture that tells us
06:45 when sin is full grown it leads to what?
06:49 Death. It leads to death.
06:51 So still the question remains
06:53 what is the sin that is not unto death.
06:54 I want to add another text to this
06:57 by going to Ezekiel Chapter 18,
07:01 Ezekiel Chapter 18.
07:07 In Ezekiel 18:4, we are told,
07:12 "Behold, all souls are Mine,
07:15 as the soul of the father,
07:16 so the soul of the son is mine."
07:18 God says.
07:20 "The soul that sinneth, it shall die."
07:23 It is very clear.
07:24 The soul that sinneth, it shall die."
07:27 By the way here is some people say
07:29 that the soul cannot die
07:31 however the Scripture says that it can.
07:33 That's right.
07:34 We won't dwell on this aspect.
07:36 So what is the sin that is not unto death?
07:39 Well, there is a description in the Bible
07:43 about an unpardonable sin.
07:45 In other words, Jesus said, "that all sins
07:50 that men may commit will be forgiven them
07:53 except the sin against the Holy Ghost."
07:55 That's right.
07:56 So we have the Bible helping us understand
07:59 that the sin against the Holy Ghost
08:01 consider the unpardonable sin
08:03 and this how do you commit the sin.
08:05 It is a continuing persisting
08:10 in rejecting the drawing
08:12 of the Holy Spirit to repentance.
08:14 Because when we send God through His Holy Spirit
08:17 leads us to repentance
08:19 but if we continue to refuse and refuse
08:22 eventually this becomes the unpardonable sin.
08:25 Yeah.
08:26 And so this is a sin that is-- that is--
08:29 I am sorry that is unto the death
08:31 because from that you have no opportunity for salvation
08:36 but all sins that you commit
08:38 and you go to the Lord
08:40 and you ask Him for forgiveness you will be forgiven.
08:42 It is written in 1 John
08:44 and it says "if we confess our sins
08:47 He is faithful and just to forgive us for our sins
08:50 and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
08:52 I am sure you have something to add.
08:53 Well, I tell you what first the Book of 1 John
08:57 really it does a great job of explaining exactly that.
09:01 Here's what sin is. Here's what righteousness is.
09:05 Here is how to cling to God and receive forgiveness.
09:08 Here is how to not cling to God
09:10 persisting your own life and die.
09:13 And it really lays both of those things out very clearly
09:17 and does an excellent job
09:18 although it seems in this one passage
09:20 to be very brief sin leading to death,
09:23 sin not leading to death
09:24 and we kind of boil it down to one specific sin
09:26 that is committed that's not what it speaking about.
09:28 He is developing an entire theology
09:30 throughout this epistle about sin and life in Christ,
09:34 sin as opposed to righteousness.
09:36 Here is an example of it.
09:38 You already mentioned this text
09:40 John, it's from 1 John 3:4,
09:44 "Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness.
09:47 And sin is lawlessness"
09:48 or transgression of the law, right.
09:50 And notice this.
09:52 Listen to his ongoing theology.
09:54 "And you know that He was manifested
09:56 to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin.
09:59 Whoever abides in Him does not sin.
10:02 Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him."
10:05 This is one that sin as a trend of the life.
10:08 This is the life of sin. This is the one specific sin.
10:11 So when it says whoever abides in Him does not sin
10:14 it means that He is not living a life
10:16 full of sinful for practices.
10:17 Right.
10:18 And we here is how I can say that
10:20 because he defines exactly what he is talking about.
10:23 Look at verse 7,
10:24 "Little children, let no one deceive you."
10:26 He who does what? Sin.
10:29 "He who practices righteousness is righteous,
10:33 just as he is righteous.
10:35 He who sins" or you would say practices sin "is of the devil,
10:40 for the devil has sinned from the beginning."
10:42 So you see here this theology of the lifestyle.
10:47 Yes.
10:48 The big capital SIN am I living a life
10:51 where I practice the sins that result from a separation
10:54 or sin for relationship with God
10:57 or is might the trend of the life
10:59 to practice the good things,
11:01 the pure things, the righteous things,
11:03 that come from Christ righteousness
11:05 and living according to His Spirit.
11:07 Amen.
11:08 And he pulls up the two
11:10 and he continues that thought right down into chapter 5
11:14 so it helps us as we read chapter 5
11:17 and the verses that you mentioned there 16 and 17
11:21 where it says "If anyone sees his brother
11:23 sinning a sin which does not lead to death."
11:25 In other words, he's sinning but it's not a practice
11:29 and he can be delivered from it.
11:31 Intervene, pray for him that he might overcome that sin
11:34 and he will be saved, okay.
11:36 Now the sin or the error
11:38 that the mistake committed by the individual maybe as such
11:43 where he even needs conviction about it.
11:46 And so we of course
11:47 we should be praying for that right.
11:49 But that's supposed to the one leading to death
11:52 which is the sin that resists the spirit of God.
11:57 You did a very good job John, of mentioning
11:59 how the unpardonable sin is
12:01 a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
12:03 And what that is telling the spirit
12:06 who is trying to draw you to Christ no, go away.
12:10 I don't want to hear about it.
12:11 I am not interested in life in Christ
12:13 and hopefully I will say this right.
12:15 I'd always tried I mess it up sometimes.
12:18 There is no sin that Christ won't forgive
12:24 but there is a sin that He can't forgive.
12:27 That's right.
12:28 He can't forgive it because we're not confessing it
12:32 nor do we want to forsake it.
12:33 That's right.
12:34 That's why it says "if we confess."
12:36 "If we confess."
12:37 So it's not that you have committed a sin
12:39 that He won't forgive it's that you committed a sin
12:43 that you don't want forgiveness for.
12:46 You're running away from God with and it's not that
12:48 He won't forgive it if you confess it.
12:50 It's just He can't
12:52 because if you're deliberate practice of sin.
12:55 And this is the theology that John develops
12:57 throughout the Book of 1 John--
13:00 his first epistle to the church.
13:02 And I think a fantastic way he-- example of that.
13:06 Here is a passage we've been eluding
13:08 to a couple of times already.
13:10 Mark Chapter 3 is one of the places
13:12 you'll find that verse beginning in verse 28
13:14 "Verily I say unto you" Jesus says
13:16 "All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men,
13:19 and blasphemies wherewith soever
13:23 they shall blaspheme
13:24 but he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost
13:28 hath never forgiveness,
13:30 but is in danger of eternal damnation."
13:34 And so here we have Jesus clearly speaking to us
13:37 about this great danger.
13:40 And so what happens if you've committed a sin.
13:44 In 1 John 2:1, he says
13:47 "My little children,
13:48 these things I write unto you, that ye sin not.
13:52 But if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father,
13:55 Jesus Christ the righteous."
13:56 That's right. So the invitation is out.
13:59 Jesus says "if any man cometh unto me
14:02 I will in no wise cast out."
14:04 So we have the opportunity to be forgiven for our sins.
14:07 Please take advantage of it while there is opportunity.
14:10 And also we would pray that sometimes forgiveness
14:13 or the repenting heart that is a gift from God.
14:16 The gift of repentance, we should pray for the sorrow.
14:18 Sometimes I mean Johnny,
14:20 when I was, when I was young first--
14:23 well I was raised in a Christian home
14:26 and abided by my parents rules and guidelines
14:30 but never really had a relationship with Jesus.
14:33 And I remember during a lot of my party life
14:35 I would be sitting there in the car
14:37 whether I was drinking or smoking
14:39 or doing what I shouldn't do,
14:40 I don't you know whatever it was,
14:42 sitting there thinking with a sudden fear
14:46 that came upon me
14:47 that if the Jesus would come I will be lost.
14:49 I mean I knew that I will be lost.
14:51 And when I began to--
14:55 when my heart turned back toward God
14:57 and I opened my heart up to Him
15:00 and the forgiveness came and my repentance came.
15:04 I found myself early on at that point
15:06 just before that point praying Lord I know that I am sinning,
15:11 I know I am a sinner and I don't even really
15:14 I am not even really sorrowful for it.
15:16 But give me the sorrow.
15:18 Give me a desire for you give me an experience
15:21 where it makes me want to even to turn from my sin
15:24 and then He did.
15:25 Amen.
15:26 And we underestimate the act of the will.
15:29 You know, just saying even in your words,
15:32 in you mind without feeling it
15:34 Lord I opposed to You right now
15:37 in fact I don't even want the things of God
15:39 but I know I should.
15:40 Amen.
15:41 Help me to want it. Amen.
15:43 Put the desire within me.
15:44 I choose Jesus, I choose God not the ways of this world
15:48 but my body my desires
15:50 don't allow me to follow after that.
15:52 Please put that within me
15:53 and He will give you repentance.
15:55 Your forgiveness will be genuine
15:57 as you ask for your confession.
15:59 And you'll find that this blasphemy
16:01 against the Holy Spirit is God.
16:02 Amen.
16:03 And anything you committed He will forgive
16:05 and that's a great promise that we have in His word.
16:07 Amen, praise the Lord. Praise the Lord.
16:08 Here is the another question we have from Karen
16:11 and she says give an,
16:13 please give an answer to someone who believes
16:15 that he believes in Jesus
16:16 but does not feel it is important to belong to
16:20 or join the church.
16:23 And as a pastor I can say this it's happened several times
16:26 where we've gone through series of Bible study lessons
16:29 and there has been conviction
16:31 and clearly someone who sees the truth of God's word
16:35 and the question comes well, pastor,
16:38 do I have to join the church?
16:41 Can I just be baptized?
16:43 Why do I have to join the church?
16:46 And I think to a degree
16:48 it's one of the reasons why we have
16:50 a entire Bible study devoted to baptism.
16:53 Yes.
16:54 Because the baptism that we receive
16:57 which is unto repentance and a new life in Christ
17:00 contains within it
17:03 membership into the body of Christ.
17:06 So when you come up to a new life
17:08 that new life is served in harmony
17:11 or together with your other fellow believers,
17:15 the body of Christ under the headship of Christ.
17:18 There is no, you could say no Christian on an island
17:21 you could see no man-- no man is in island
17:23 there is no Christian that's in island,
17:25 there is no teaching that you can find in God's word
17:27 where you can just believe
17:29 but not be a part of God's church.
17:31 The reason for that is because God knows
17:34 there is safety in the multitude of counselors,
17:37 there is safety in the together the unity of all believers.
17:41 And this is how he teaches and he uses his church
17:45 to finish the gospel work that is given to us.
17:48 The mission of the church is to proclaim
17:49 the everlasting gospel.
17:50 Now certainly you can go out individually
17:52 and you share with people what you believe
17:55 but you're missing entirely the big picture perspective
17:59 of what God is doing through His church
18:01 to finish those specific work
18:03 that He is finishing now before His return.
18:04 Yes, yes.
18:06 So it's not we shouldn't be long range of questions.
18:09 Right.
18:10 Yeah, there is no real such thing as that.
18:12 In fact, you will find teachings from Paul
18:18 about the body of Christ where all members
18:21 but one having one body.
18:23 So that's not one body
18:25 with a few individualistic islands around.
18:28 He is talking about everybody is part of one body
18:30 and if that's the case
18:32 you cannot be baptized into the faith
18:36 without joining Christ church.
18:38 Amen.
18:39 I think the real issue is behind these things.
18:43 I wouldn't say in every case but in many cases
18:46 they're uncomfortable with joining
18:48 an established denomination.
18:50 As you know Johnny,
18:51 there is emerging church movement out there
18:54 which really is bucking the trend of denominationalism.
18:59 Its where a lot of the nondenominational church
19:01 is the early mindset of the establishment
19:03 of nondenominational churches has come from
19:06 this not wanting to be associated with movements
19:09 or churches that are established
19:11 denominations of sorts.
19:13 And the crazy thing is that
19:15 these nondenominational churches today
19:17 have become an organization in themselves.
19:19 That right.
19:20 And so they really still join an organization
19:21 it's just called
19:22 a nondenominational organization.
19:25 So truly God's word is supportive of organization
19:29 of the organized church
19:31 but it must be under the system of truth
19:33 which actually is part of our topic
19:35 that we've already begun here on unity, church unity.
19:38 It's under a system of truth
19:39 that God has clearly established
19:41 for the church to operate under.
19:43 Amen, praise the Lord.
19:45 Do you have another, do you another question?
19:46 I have another yeah, that has come in
19:49 this one from Irma
19:51 and she says dear pastors, I struggle to understand
19:55 the purpose of the resurrection of the wicked.
19:58 What is to be learned and by whom
20:01 from raising the wicked to burn them in hellfire?
20:05 And so we have here apparently the question
20:08 takes in those wicked that have died
20:13 through some natural course of life they died
20:19 so we'll take those into consideration in the question
20:23 and then of course there are the wicked
20:25 that are alive
20:26 when Jesus Christ returns obviously
20:28 they're gonna be righteous and wicked alive
20:31 when Jesus Christ returns.
20:33 Those wicked what happens to those?
20:35 We understand from 1 Thessalonians 2:8
20:38 that the wicked that are alive when Christ returns
20:42 are slain by the brightness of His coming.
20:45 And there is a 1,000 year period of time
20:49 upon which there is no wicked human being alive
20:55 and describes in Revelation Chapter 20
20:58 that Satan is this earth becomes like a vast wilderness
21:04 Satan has no one to tempt,
21:06 he is chained by a circumstances
21:12 and can go nowhere except to see the results of his work
21:17 throughout the 100s and several 1,000 years of sin
21:21 then you say several 100,000
21:23 I said several 1,000 years of sin
21:26 of life of history that he has called sin
21:30 to create destruction upon this earth.
21:33 He has time to contemplate all the damage that he has done
21:36 and suffering he has caused.
21:39 We see of course in Revelation Chapter 20
21:41 that at the end of 1,000 years
21:44 he takes up the work right where he left off.
21:47 Because it says at the end of Revelation Chapter 20
21:51 it helps us to understand what happens here
21:56 let me find it in Revelation Chapter 20.
22:01 By the way as you're going there, Johnny.
22:02 Yes.
22:03 I am just gonna read here just real briefly
22:05 because you mentioned
22:06 and it maybe a little challenge for some that are hearing this
22:09 that when Jesus comes
22:12 the wicked who are alive at that time
22:14 are destroyed by the brightness of His coming
22:15 and earth is left with no one on it alive.
22:18 Correct, yes.
22:19 And the explanation you can find for this
22:23 where it says I believe the earth
22:26 and indeed it was without "I beheld the earth,
22:28 and indeed it was without form, and void.
22:32 And the heavens, they had no light.
22:34 I beheld the mountains, and indeed they trembled,
22:36 and all the hills moved back and forth.
22:38 And there was no man."
22:40 So here there is no man alive on it
22:42 and that's what you're talking about there.
22:44 And the interesting thing it says in verse 27
22:47 "Thus says the Lord,
22:48 'The whole land shall be desolate,
22:50 yet I will not make a full end.'"
22:53 "In other words this isn't the end.
22:55 This isn't.
22:56 Jesus comes back the wicked are destroyed
22:58 or at least killed by the brightness of His coming
23:00 but judgment hasn't occurred, the full end hasn't occurred
23:02 but yet it will be without form and void
23:04 for a period of time which is a 1,000 years.
23:06 So now you gonna pick it up in Revelation 20.
23:09 Revelation 20, yes in Revelation 20
23:15 I will begin reading in verse 5
23:17 and go through different verses here.
23:18 Revelation 20:5 says, "But the rest of the dead
23:22 lived not again until the thousand years were finished."
23:26 This is the first resurrection,
23:29 the first resurrection it's talking about
23:32 in 1 Thessalonians Chapter 4 you will notice that it says
23:36 that it's a description of the righteous that are dead
23:41 when they're resurrected and the righteous living
23:44 when Christ comes they join together
23:48 in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.
23:51 We go to heaven for 1,000 years.
23:53 We're going through a lot of concepts
23:54 in this Scriptures.
23:56 They go to heaven for 1,000 years
23:57 what are they doing there?
23:59 It's time and opportunity for the righteous to judge.
24:04 What do you mean judge?
24:05 Look over the books to see why they're there
24:10 and to see why people they loved,
24:12 people they knew are not there.
24:14 Questions are asked why isn't so and so here?
24:17 Why isn't so and so here?
24:19 And so the record books are opened
24:21 and they look and they judge the work that was done by God
24:26 to determine who is saved and who is not.
24:28 That's right.
24:29 So here if there is a first resurrection
24:33 there is a second resurrection.
24:35 This is brought out in Revelation Chapter 20
24:37 and in John Chapter 5 Jesus talks about
24:39 the resurrection of life
24:41 and the resurrection of damnation.
24:43 So in this second resurrection
24:46 now we go to a certain verse
24:50 and notice what it says in verse 6
24:52 "Blessed and holy
24:54 is he that has part in the first resurrection
24:57 on such the second death has no power
25:01 but they shall be priest of God
25:02 and that of Christ and shall reign with him
25:04 a thousand years."
25:05 Yeah.
25:06 Now, let's go over to eventually
25:12 the wicked dead are resurrected.
25:16 That's right.
25:17 This is the resurrection of damnation.
25:19 As they are gonna have a second death.
25:21 Yes.
25:22 So to mean to die twice you have to be resurrected
25:24 at some point before the second death.
25:26 So it is safe to say
25:30 that there are people alive today
25:33 and people that have lived before us
25:34 their have been wicked they have died.
25:37 They just died because they got sick,
25:38 they got cancer, they were killed by someone
25:40 different reasons why they died.
25:43 So you have to ask yourself
25:44 what happens to those people.
25:45 Why are they resurrected?
25:47 They need to understand
25:49 why they are going to receive the wages of sin.
25:54 That's right.
25:55 Because when they die a physical death
25:57 it's not necessarily the wages of sin
25:59 that they have experienced.
26:00 The wages of sin or in other words
26:03 they are judged according as their work shall be.
26:06 That's what it says in the Bible.
26:07 You're judged according to what we're choices.
26:11 What were the choices you made?
26:13 And so here we see that God is just,
26:18 fair and good to everyone.
26:21 Questions are asked, the books are opened.
26:23 It says there in the at the end of Revelation Chapter 20.
26:29 Look at verse 12 there.
26:30 Beginning-- I will start in verse 11
26:32 for little context.
26:33 "And I saw a great white throne,
26:36 and him that sat on it,
26:37 whose face the earth and the heaven fled away
26:40 and there was found no place for them.
26:42 And I saw the dead,"
26:44 obviously resurrected "small and great,
26:45 stand before God and the books were opened
26:49 and another book was opened, which is the book of life
26:51 and the dead were judged out of those things
26:55 which were written in the books,
26:56 according to their works."
26:58 So here the wicked dead
27:00 are judged according to what is written in the books.
27:04 They need to understand why
27:07 they did not received eternal life.
27:08 Yeah.
27:09 Because they really have not suffered
27:12 for the sins they have committed.
27:14 They merely died a first death.
27:17 You know, Johnny, there is a
27:18 there is some evidence of this
27:20 in just our own court system here today
27:22 because there are several kinds of judgment
27:24 there is an investigation phase of the judgment
27:28 that's the court trial with evidences presented.
27:30 Yes. There is a verdict.
27:37 Yes. That's the second part.
27:40 That's judgment too.
27:41 And there is a sentencing a third aspect of judgment.
27:45 So you have investigation. Yes.
27:47 Verdict and sentencing. And sentencing, yes.
27:50 And you have to look carefully for what part you're in
27:53 and what you're talking about here
27:55 with the dead standing before God
27:58 it's this is a judgment
28:00 an investigation of sorts for the wicked
28:04 but also it comes with a verdict and a sentencing
28:06 and its all three here in this specific piece.
28:10 With the righteous it is different.
28:14 The righteous there
28:15 or has to be an investigative judgment
28:18 and a verdict prior to the second coming of Jesus.
28:21 Yes.
28:22 Because the sentence is eternal life
28:25 and the reward is given to them at Christ returns.
28:27 So the judgment has to occur before that.
28:29 But for the wicked
28:31 it doesn't have to occur before.
28:32 It's happening all at once.
28:34 This is so true and this will help many people understand
28:38 because the Bible describes that
28:41 1 Thessalonians 4, 1 Corinthians 15,
28:43 it talks about a transformation of those that are righteous
28:49 this corruptible shall put any corruption
28:50 and this mortal shall put on immortality.
28:54 And then it says that the sleeping saints
28:58 the Christians that died for whatever reason it was
29:01 the first-- their first death and only death.
29:05 They are resurrected
29:06 and they meet the Lord in the air and it says
29:08 and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
29:10 But why are they receiving eternal life?
29:12 There was that phase of investigation
29:15 that was done already prior to the second coming.
29:19 This is so true what you've stated.
29:21 And so this is what the Bible brings out.
29:24 Now, the question is
29:26 why bring these the wicked up again
29:29 so they can face death.
29:32 Well, as we mentioned before,
29:35 before the universe they are judged
29:38 because God is--
29:39 God is so precise in His judgment
29:43 that throughout, throughout eternity
29:45 if it would take that long
29:47 you can see the record books and say well,
29:50 I am just going to pick a name Bob, Jerry, Frank,
29:56 let's go just to pick a name, Jerry.
30:00 Why was he not allowed to have eternal life?
30:03 Well, he never gave his life to Christ.
30:05 He turned away from God
30:07 and he never accepted salvation and forgiveness.
30:11 This is why Jerry is going to be
30:14 thrown into the lake of fire.
30:18 And they will see how God tried over and over again
30:21 to reach Jerry and Jerry refused
30:23 and refused and refused and refused
30:26 and eventually he died for whatever reason.
30:28 Now he has to understand
30:30 why he did not get eternal life.
30:33 He just did not want it.
30:34 He refused it.
30:35 And so here we see the love of God
30:38 and His mercy
30:40 and so at the end of Revelation 20
30:44 let's pickup in verse 12 again "And I saw the dead,
30:47 small and great, stand before God,
30:48 and the books were opened
30:49 and another book was opened, which is the book of life
30:51 and the dead were judged out of those things
30:53 which were written in the books,
30:54 according to their works.
30:56 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it
30:58 and death and hell delivered up the dead
31:00 which were in them and they were judged
31:02 every man according to their works.
31:05 "And death." I'm sorry.
31:07 "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.
31:09 This is the second death.
31:12 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life
31:16 was cast into the lake of fire."
31:19 So unfortunately they received the wages of sin.
31:25 And so it is not because it is not that God
31:30 are betrayal chose who is gonna be saved.
31:33 Let's see I think I will save this person and that's person
31:35 and oh, no, not that one, oh, no, not that one.
31:38 No, there is an investigated judgment
31:41 that takes place as was already mentioned
31:43 and they're judged according to their works.
31:47 Did they accept Christ?
31:48 Did they not accept Christ?
31:50 And the Bible tells us in 2 Peters Chapter 3
31:53 that God is not willing that any should perish
31:56 but that all should come to repentance.
31:57 Yeah.
31:58 But the question do all come to repentance?
32:01 Unfortunately, none.
32:02 So the blessing of being in the investigative judgment
32:04 that happens before Christ return
32:07 is that when judgment is made for the saints
32:11 it's in their favor because of what Christ has done.
32:13 Amen.
32:14 They are not judged by their works their works,
32:16 their works are Christ works.
32:19 Yes, amen.
32:20 So Christ is the one that is looked at
32:22 and the sins don't appear because Christ has written
32:25 or covered the sins by His blood
32:26 and blotted them out.
32:27 Amen. That's the blessing.
32:29 What we're talking about here
32:31 in this great white throne judgment
32:33 are those that don't have Christ there
32:35 to stand in their behalf they rejected that
32:38 and they're judged by the things
32:39 written in the books
32:40 because their own works stand as evidence.
32:43 Yes.
32:44 They don't have Christ to be the works of evidence for them
32:47 as those the saints did.
32:49 Yes.
32:50 These are the wicked that stand in their own
32:52 in their own works.
32:53 And there are none that would say
32:55 I don't deserve it.
32:57 I mean, at point they will see clearly
32:59 the big picture and God will make that clear.
33:01 He is a just God and a fair God.
33:03 And the other aspect to this of course is
33:05 how long is the sentencing for each?
33:08 Yes.
33:09 And there is a different length of time
33:12 that they maybe burning in that lake of fire
33:15 because of the deeds that they're burned
33:17 or they're sentenced to burn for.
33:19 Perhaps, we should dwell on that a little bit.
33:21 Could you elaborate a little bit?
33:23 Maybe we can discuss that
33:24 because this is a little challenging for some people.
33:27 Yeah, well with every sentence here
33:29 you'll find within our court system
33:31 and it's our court system is built on
33:33 Judeo-Christian principles.
33:35 As many courts especially the sentencing
33:38 is built on the system of judgment
33:40 and fairness, justice really.
33:42 And so what you have are those that maybe murderers
33:46 that are given life sentences and there are those
33:50 that maybe are thieves or perjurers
33:54 or whatever it maybe
33:56 they're given a much shorter time period
33:59 and the reason is because for justice to occur
34:02 the punishment must fit the crime, right.
34:07 And in the last days God is the same way
34:09 the punishment will fit the crime
34:11 and the lake is kindled to burn up sin
34:15 those that are sinful will burn up in that lake
34:17 but the long-- the more sins
34:20 the most severe the sin the longer there is to burn.
34:25 And we find evidence
34:27 not in a specific text from Scripture
34:29 we find evidence through the preponderance of evidence
34:32 throughout Scriptures
34:33 that shows us that justice of God
34:36 also occurs in the punishment in the sentencing of the wicked
34:39 and therefore then that must be the case.
34:41 Because you cannot give
34:42 lets just look up to you commonsense.
34:44 You would not give Hitler for an example
34:49 and then maybe a Jew that was a secular Jew
34:53 and never believed in Christ
34:55 and was generally a good kind person on the earth
34:58 but just he's not believer.
34:59 You would not give them the same sentence.
35:02 They would the one that was persecuted
35:05 and killed by the Hitler and his men
35:08 would sit there and say though that's not fare.
35:11 I mean he's killed millions. Yes.
35:14 At least was behind the killing of millions
35:16 what did-- who did I ever killed?
35:19 There is justice even in the sentencing of God
35:21 and there will be a different level
35:23 or different term of burning in that lake of fire
35:26 because of that.
35:27 It just it comes from the principles
35:29 and the preponderance of evidence in Scriptures.
35:32 And of course, eventually they all the wicked die
35:36 and become ashes.
35:37 The Bible tells which is in this Malachi Chapter 4
35:40 an in other places they become ashes.
35:42 So therefore, ultimately the end of the sinners
35:46 of the wicked is that they die,
35:48 for the wages of sin is death.
35:50 Yes.
35:51 And there is a Scripture that may help us
35:52 to understand this as well
35:55 in Luke Chapter 12
35:57 we're talking about the length of punishment.
36:01 It says you have to read the context
36:04 I am just going to read a few verses here.
36:09 Let's-- I will begin in verse 45
36:10 and Luke 12:45
36:13 "But and if that servant say in his heart,
36:15 My lord delayeth his coming
36:16 and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens,
36:18 and to eat and drink, and to be drunken.
36:21 The lord of that servant will come in a day
36:23 when he looketh not for him,
36:25 and at an hour when he is not aware,
36:27 and will cut him in sunder,
36:28 and will appoint him his portion
36:30 with the unbelievers.
36:32 And that servant, which knew his lord's will,
36:35 and prepared not himself,
36:36 neither did according to his will,
36:39 shall be beaten with many stripes.
36:41 But he that knew not,
36:43 and did commit things worthy of stripes,
36:45 shall be beaten with few stripes.
36:47 For unto whomsoever much is given, of him
36:49 shall be much required
36:51 and to whom have committed much,
36:53 of him they shall ask the more."
36:56 So the servant worthy of few stripes
36:59 will receive few stripes
37:01 the one worthy of many stripes will receive many stripes.
37:04 You made a good reference there about one person
37:07 killing of maybe one or a few
37:09 and Hitler responsible for millions of death.
37:12 Obviously to be fair,
37:16 you know, the lookers and will say wait
37:18 why did this person that killed this one person
37:23 all he did receive his death
37:24 and this person that is responsible for millions.
37:27 You know-- That's right.
37:28 The same punishment.
37:29 You know there will be difference,
37:32 there will be a difference but God is fair and just
37:34 and no one will suffer
37:37 one second less than they deserve.
37:41 Nor one second more than they deserve
37:44 because God is very sensitive to punishment.
37:46 God is love so ultimately they become ashes
37:50 and they die.
37:51 And this is why we disagree with the eternal burning
37:54 that many Christians believe today
37:56 that God will burn internally in hell
37:58 everyone who doesn't believe in Jesus.
38:00 It doesn't present a very fair picture of God,
38:03 nor an accurate one according to the Bible.
38:04 So anyway we've gone way longer
38:07 than we should have on our questions
38:09 but we thank you for them
38:11 and we want to encourage you to send in more
38:12 maybe some of the things we're talking about
38:14 have prompted more questions in your mind.
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38:31 just present the questions simply
38:33 because those are the only ones we really take
38:35 and bring to the program itself.
38:36 So thank you very much for being
38:38 a very important part of this program.
38:40 Now on to our topic.
38:43 We don't have a lot of time
38:44 we have taken up most of our time here with questions
38:47 but we do want to talk about Unity
38:48 and where we are to this point
38:50 in the subject of Unity
38:52 as we have in the last program
38:53 we talked about the difference between
38:58 pillar, landmark teachings
39:02 present truth teachings
39:04 as well as core Christian teachings
39:06 from the Word of God
39:08 that are part of the body of believers
39:10 that are non negotiables
39:12 and other teaching or even personally held views
39:16 or lifestyle issues that are just that.
39:18 There're teachings that aren't test of faith
39:21 but are convictions, individual personal convictions
39:25 of the believers and followers of Jesus.
39:27 Even Paul mentioned in one of his epistles
39:30 and because of the shortness of time
39:32 we're not gonna go there
39:33 but you know he says there are something's
39:35 that I do that I might do by myself
39:39 but I don't do in public
39:40 because I don't want to be stumbling block
39:41 for somebody else.
39:42 But he feels by faith he's a perfect liberty
39:44 to live out his life
39:46 may be in a different way than another believer would
39:48 because of their personal convictions.
39:49 So there're clearly personal convictions
39:52 that aren't test of faith or even test fellowship
39:56 within the body of believers
39:57 and that's kind of where we left off last time.
40:00 I want to just for those who understand
40:05 and believe that God has raised up a last day movement
40:12 a church known as
40:14 the Seventh-day Adventist church
40:15 for proclaiming the everlasting gospel
40:17 throughout the world
40:18 to finish the work those who understand that
40:22 I am a minister of the gospel of that faith.
40:25 We have this encouragement for us
40:28 in regard to what the landmarks really are.
40:31 In other words, these are the core present truths
40:33 we have as a church.
40:34 And I just thought I'd read this here.
40:37 It's from Counsels Writen to the church specifically
40:40 and it says here in regard to the passing of time
40:43 in 1844.
40:45 This is now there were Millerites there
40:47 and there were no Seventh-day Adventist
40:48 but as the time progressed here is what happened.
40:51 It says "There was an opening to our astonished eyes
40:55 the cleansing of the sanctuary transpiring in heaven" okay.
41:00 "And having decided
41:02 relation to God's people upon the earth."
41:04 There is a connection between the two.
41:07 "Also the first and second angels' messages
41:10 and the third, including unfurling the banner
41:13 on which was inscribed, 'The commandments of God
41:15 and the faith of Jesus.'
41:17 One of the landmarks under this message
41:20 was the temple of God,
41:21 seen in His truth-loving people in heaven,"
41:23 or by His truth-loving people in heaven "
41:25 and the ark containing the law of God.
41:27 The light of the Sabbath of the fourth commandment
41:30 flashed its strong rays in the pathway
41:32 of the transgressors of God's law.
41:34 The nonimmortality of the wicked
41:36 is an old landmark."
41:38 Okay, in other words, there is a conditionalism here.
41:42 Mortalities received because of faith in Christ
41:45 not because of innately who we are.
41:49 I can call, listen to this,
41:50 "I can call to mind nothing more
41:53 that can come under the head of the old landmarks.
41:58 All this cry about changing the old landmarks
42:00 is imaginary."
42:01 In other words, here is a dispute
42:02 over what we should believe
42:03 what so and so believes and ah
42:04 and there is a casting of disparagement
42:07 and dissension
42:08 upon what maybe was someone taught here there.
42:11 There were these making mountains out of molehills
42:14 that was going on back then
42:15 and so she felt like she needed to reiterate
42:18 what the old landmarks were.
42:19 And so we have core beliefs within the church
42:21 that we have established had been established overtime.
42:25 You were probably at the second coming of Jesus.
42:27 Amen.
42:28 And a few others
42:29 but there are teachings that are not part of that
42:31 and we need to make sure that we are not dividing
42:34 over those issues.
42:35 And it's been Johnny, honestly it's been part of
42:38 one of the core messages
42:41 I have felt God has laid on my heart
42:43 because I love my church.
42:45 Amen.
42:46 And I want to see it unified.
42:48 And there are things that we tend to divide over
42:51 that create disunity and I don't think
42:54 God has pleased with that
42:55 because the Bible is fairly clear
42:57 that in love in unity we revealed God's character.
43:01 That is even when people don't agree with
43:04 what we believe with exactly on our points.
43:07 Amen, Amen.
43:09 Now perhaps it would be good to say that
43:11 while we are Seventh-day Adventist
43:13 and believe that God has called
43:14 the Seventh-day Adventist church
43:16 with a special message for the world
43:19 at the end of time
43:21 that God has believers in all churches.
43:25 Children, Jesus said other sheep I have
43:28 that are not of this fold
43:29 we also have a moment in time
43:32 when it is declared in Revelation 18
43:36 where he says "come out of her, my people,
43:39 where there is error
43:40 and be not partakers of her sins."
43:43 So therefore, we believe that God has His children
43:47 and in many, many denominations.
43:49 Yeah.
43:50 So having said that yes we need to work together
43:57 for the purpose of glorifying God
43:59 because Jesus said
44:01 "by this shall all men know that ye are my disciples
44:03 if you have love for one and another."
44:05 Paul addressed several times
44:08 when they were envying and strives
44:11 among the believers
44:13 and he said these things should not be.
44:15 Yes.
44:16 And so this is what we want to get away from.
44:18 There is a work to be done and it has to be done
44:23 understanding that God is calling us
44:26 to be consecrated, sanctified
44:29 and to follow Him with all of our hearts
44:32 and to leave the world
44:33 and its attractions behind and to follow Jesus.
44:36 And sometimes we get to we tend to pull these things
44:38 and it almost becomes political about it.
44:40 Yes.
44:41 And I like the statement politics leads to polarization
44:46 which leads to paralyses from our mission.
44:49 Paralyses that's a good way to putting.
44:50 And so when we are a paralyzed
44:52 from accomplishing our mission the devil is happy.
44:55 We're not spreading the gospel.
44:57 We're not sharing the good news
44:58 we're fighting within
45:00 and God does not want that.
45:01 Here is just a few texts in regard to unity
45:04 that I think are important from.
45:05 From the Word of God.
45:08 First Corinthians 1:10 let's go there here first,
45:13 1 Corinthians 1:10 says
45:18 "Now I plead with you,
45:19 brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ,
45:21 that you all speak the same thing,
45:24 and that there be no divisions among you,
45:26 but that you be perfectly joined together
45:28 in the same mind and in the same judgment."
45:33 All right, so he wants us to be of the same mind.
45:38 But this doesn't necessarily mean that
45:39 in every single respect that we agree--
45:42 Yes.
45:43 But we must agree on the major
45:45 the core teachings that we share.
45:48 Notice here how this translation says
45:52 that you speak the same thing.
45:54 What we share evangelistically,
45:56 what we teaches as a church,
45:57 what is present truth for today
45:59 we must be unified in the faith.
46:02 But other things within the church
46:03 we can have some disagreement
46:06 and but we should not never divide over.
46:08 Let me give you example.
46:12 And I am touching a hot button here
46:13 I realize but its relevant and its present today
46:16 the issue of women ordination.
46:19 You know, it is an issue
46:21 that is creating some division within the church.
46:26 And some are holding fast
46:29 to what they believe is true and that's good.
46:33 But if we begin to fight and become unchrist like
46:38 in the way that we share our position the truth
46:41 and begin to then divide
46:43 in our feelings toward each other
46:45 and make this a dividing issue
46:48 then we've stepped on ground
46:49 that God does not want us on.
46:52 I do believe there will be issues within the church
46:54 that we must end up and proclaim truth regarding.
46:57 Amen.
46:58 However, if God is leading the church
47:01 He is doing it united way and if we see Him go direction
47:05 even if it may not be exactly what He would desire
47:09 He still wants us to remain unified.
47:10 Let me give you an example from the Old Testament.
47:13 Did God want Israel to have a king?
47:17 No.
47:18 Did Israel ask for and insist on king.
47:21 Well, they sure insisted on a king.
47:22 And did God give them king? Yeah, yes He did.
47:26 He allowed them to have a king. He let them have the king.
47:28 Would He disown them as the people?
47:30 No. No.
47:32 There may be things and I am not speaking
47:34 of women's ordination specifically
47:35 but there maybe things that the church does
47:38 that God doesn't isn't completely in harmony with.
47:40 It's not exactly His will
47:42 but He doesn't disown His church.
47:44 He loves His church and He wants us
47:45 to still to work together and to move forward.
47:48 Now I am giving you just a couple of examples here
47:50 because I believe that sometimes
47:54 we have become unchrist like in the way
47:57 treat others for the sake of truth
48:01 where truth is never licensed for being unchrist like.
48:06 We must share the truth in love.
48:08 Amen.
48:10 Ellen White one of our core pioneers of the church says
48:13 this is called the truth as it is in Jesus.
48:17 That is His character and how He would relate truth
48:21 and this is essential.
48:22 And what I am seeing in all kinds of churches
48:25 but its also in the Seventh-day Adventist church as well
48:29 its some of these polarizing over issues
48:31 and dividing over issues that should not divide us
48:34 that we need to set aside as barriers
48:36 and get back to the mission of the church
48:37 and that is spreading the everlasting gospel
48:39 and calling people and do
48:40 a saving relationship with Jesus.
48:44 Now this is so true. This is so true.
48:47 You know I guess
48:49 it would be good to say John 17
48:54 which we mentioned in previous program
48:57 Jesus said concerning His disciples
49:00 that they may one even as we are one.
49:03 Oh, yeah. And this is the same.
49:05 And you brought out so well in the last program
49:08 that it encompasses believers throughout
49:10 the history of the earth-- us in the future.
49:13 We're to be one as Christ and the Father of one
49:16 based on the platform of the truth of God's word
49:19 the truth found in the scriptures
49:21 and so this is something that we should strive for.
49:26 And again I would like to stress
49:30 that for us living in the end of time
49:32 God wants to bring us into one accord.
49:38 Unfortunately, we see that the Bible reveals
49:43 and well, fortunately and unfortunately
49:45 I'll put those two words there
49:47 remember the time when the servant asked
49:52 there was good seed planted on the ground
49:54 but eventually there were tares among the wheat.
49:57 Yeah, yeah.
49:59 The servant asked master, did you not plant good seeds?
50:03 Where do the tares come from?
50:05 And Jesus says or in the parables it says
50:08 an enemy has done this.
50:09 Yeah.
50:10 Do you want us to gather up, don't wait till the end.
50:14 And so to say that we'll have perfect unity
50:21 among all members-- On all issues.
50:23 On all issues is not going to happen.
50:26 However, when we say
50:27 there will be unity among believers
50:30 will be one accord that will happen.
50:33 Yes.
50:34 Because eventually those that are not sincere
50:36 and honest and true they're going to leave.
50:39 Yeah.
50:40 So in Acts Chapter 2 its talks about
50:44 that the disciples of Christ became,
50:47 they were of one accord.
50:48 Yeah.
50:49 And this is they repented of their sins.
50:52 They confessed the false one to another hey,
50:55 I had some terrible things I thought about you
50:58 and I was you know--
51:01 I am giving you possibility so what took place
51:03 and I really didn't want anything to do with you.
51:05 But you are a brethren, Christ and forgive me for the--
51:09 Yeah.
51:10 And be embarrassed one and other forgave one another
51:13 and a beautiful thing happened.
51:15 They were able to go as one
51:18 and proclaim the gospel unlike ever before.
51:20 Yeah.
51:21 Yeah, there is power in unity as we saw with the disciples.
51:25 They were not unified in every single thing
51:28 especially their personality differences were there
51:31 but they unified in the mission
51:33 that God has given them as a church.
51:36 And we can-- we need to be unified
51:38 in our mission of saving people
51:40 and spreading the gospel
51:42 right before the Jesus soon return.
51:45 And also I would add to this
51:47 it is not our job
51:49 to divide the wheat from the tares.
51:51 No, its not.
51:53 In fact, He says no leave them alone
51:56 because you might root up--
51:57 up root some of the wheat with the tares.
51:59 In other words, you're gonna mess things up.
52:02 You need to be careful let the Lord do that.
52:04 Let Him do that work.
52:05 In fact over and over again we find
52:08 encouragement and counsel through pastor, pioneers
52:13 and those who have counseled the church
52:15 through issues that have happened in the past
52:17 that the best way to counteract error is to preach truth.
52:20 Amen.
52:21 Not go after the person that's teaching the error.
52:24 There maybe a time to come in and rebuke that error
52:27 and set through straight
52:29 but you also must do that in love
52:31 and one person said that truth is
52:36 what is it the preaching of truth
52:41 never gives one license for being unchrist like.
52:45 And so I think that's a good thing.
52:46 Here's another verse from Colossians 3:14
52:49 and above all things all these put on love
52:52 which binds everything together in perfect harmony.
52:55 Amen.
52:57 I have said several times love is the greatest law.
53:01 It is higher law than other laws.
53:03 In fact, if you look at first Corinthians 13,
53:06 Johnny, I think its--
53:07 he talks about you know if we have prophecy
53:09 we have all this knowledge and all these things
53:11 but we don't have love we're like a claying symbol.
53:14 Claying symbol. It doesn't do any good.
53:15 That's right.
53:16 Love is more important even than these other truths
53:19 not that these other truths aren't important they are.
53:21 But love is the highest law then there is a difference here
53:23 we must default to love.
53:25 Love for our brothers and our sisters
53:27 and we do that by showing them respect
53:30 by humbling ourselves before them
53:32 and as Paul puts it
53:34 in the epistle to the Philippians church.
53:37 He said that we should treat them
53:39 as better than ourselves and this is hard to do.
53:43 I know this is hard to do
53:45 but if we are to stick with a mind of Christ
53:48 this is part of our actions towards others
53:50 that even that we disagree with on some issues.
53:54 One another text that another passage
53:57 we I would like to share is found in Ephesians Chapter 4
54:00 and I am gonna read verses 1 through 6 and then verse 13.
54:03 Okay.
54:04 "I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord,
54:06 beseech you that you walk
54:07 worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
54:11 with all lowliness and meekness,
54:12 with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love
54:15 endeavoring to keep the unity
54:17 of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
54:20 There is one body, and one Spirit,
54:22 even as ye are called in one hope of your calling.
54:25 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
54:28 one God and Father of all,
54:30 who is above all, and through all,
54:32 and in you all."
54:34 Other things are mentioned
54:35 but I want to the core of this whole thing is verse 13
54:40 "Till we all come in the unity of the faith,
54:44 and of the knowledge of the Son of God,
54:46 unto a perfect man, unto the measure
54:49 of the stature of the fullness of Christ."
54:52 Beautiful. Amen.
54:54 That's the whole key.
54:55 Yeah and there is a promise there
54:57 that with unity we mature.
55:01 Amen.
55:02 Right. Amen.
55:03 Because we finally reach a status of fullness in Christ
55:07 when unity occurs what I often find
55:09 is those that are bickering or complaining
55:11 or criticizing the preacher
55:13 for what he preached that Sabbath
55:15 or going home and talking about
55:16 what a horrible message this was
55:18 or just the criticism that we see
55:21 this all comes from those that are immature.
55:24 They're still babes in Christ,
55:25 they're still relying on their carnal nature.
55:28 We are looking for unity and growth to maturity
55:32 and maturity is where we're unified
55:35 even if we disagree there is still unity.
55:38 And that's an important aspect of the gospel
55:40 because when they sees and our love for one another
55:42 even when there is disagreement on certain issues
55:45 they can say you know what, Christ is in them.
55:47 Christ truly He is showing His character through them.
55:52 And I think the biggest thing
55:53 we need to be doing especially in these last day
55:56 is showing that love for others
55:58 in the mission that we have
55:59 and our interceding for those who don't know Christ
56:02 and our reaching out to them to bring them into the faith.
56:05 And we're fighting over an issues
56:06 we're not doing that.
56:08 You know, it's the Bible gives us
56:12 scriptures to help us to understand
56:14 the unity that God desires to be among His believers.
56:19 You know, there is summarizing
56:21 the first great commandment
56:22 and the second great commandment.
56:24 Yeah those are great.
56:25 Love the Lord your God
56:26 with all your heart with all your mind
56:28 and then it says and love your neighbor as yourself.
56:31 That's right.
56:32 And when we look at that aspect of God's teachings
56:37 love your neighbor as yourself and the context of unity
56:41 we will see that are lot of things
56:42 well we put aside.
56:43 Yeah.
56:45 And so self has to be put aside for the sake of Christ.
56:49 It's much more difficult to criticize
56:53 and to dislike or even hate somebody
56:55 that you're friends with.
56:58 Getting to know somebody and really caring for them
57:01 really is a key to help it with unity
57:03 and praying for your brother or your sister.
57:06 And this is where we need to establish
57:08 those bonds of love to finish the work.
57:09 Amen.
57:10 And so we encourage you from House Calls to you
57:13 even you may disagree with some of you brothers
57:15 and sisters in the faith
57:16 unify on the bond of love express your love
57:20 and your care for them
57:22 and that Christ leads you step by step
57:24 into sharing in His mission
57:25 for spreading that everlasting gospel
57:27 of love of Jesus Christ with every one
57:29 you know and you meet.
57:31 God bless you, today.


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