Participants: Jim Burr
Series Code: HDS
Program Code: HDS000014A
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00:24 Welcome to Heavens Declare. My name is Jim Burr. We're sharing 00:30 the Hubble telescope and the heavens in this series. This 00:35 program today is the second program in the series of science 00:41 in the classroom. The cry is we want science. We don't want 00:46 intelligent design, we don't want creation because that's 00:51 faith, you know. So we try to have some fun in this class. 00:56 I don't want to offend anybody but actually science is 01:01 constantly changing and we want something we can test. So we 01:05 test it today and 10 years from now it's obsolete. I can show 01:10 you statements where you've got to rewrite the textbooks. Many, 01:15 many times where you'll read that where if your books are 01:22 over 10 years old they're obsolete. In contrast, the Bible 01:27 writers were prevented from following the errors of the 01:32 time because there were a lot of errors, of course, in the past. 01:36 The Bible says there was a global flood and we can test 01:42 that. In fact, I've got a fossil fish here. We're going to 01:46 actually have the graphic up. We see shells and so forth on 01:51 top of mountains and so forth everywhere. The Bible says the 01:57 stars cannot be counted. In Jeremiah 33:22 when prior to the 02:01 telescope they knew there were 6000 stars in the sky visible to 02:06 the naked eye, around 6000. The Bible says like sands of the sea 02:10 shore. We can test that. The Bible says that he stretched out 02:14 the heavens, 17 times in scripture it says he stretches 02:18 out the heavens. Now scientists agree, the universe seems to be 02:23 expanding faster every day. The Bible says he hangs the earth on 02:29 nothing and we can test that in Job 26 verse 7. You would think 02:34 what holds it. Well gravity, gravity is actually what holds 02:38 the earth and all the planets together to the sun. The Bible 02:42 says the earth is a circle, it's not flat but it's a circle. They 02:47 used to think the earth was flat In Isaiah 40:22 it says he sits 02:52 over the circle of the earth. The Bible says the earth is 02:56 getting old. We can see that. We see erosion, we see the magnetic 03:00 field of the earth running down. We see the spinning, the earth 03:04 is slowing down. We reset our clocks a few microseconds every 03:09 year or two. So that would be the second law of thermodynamics 03:15 everything is running down, everything is wearing out. 03:17 If you don't believe that take a look at your kids' room and you 03:20 have to go in and straighten it. It just seems like everything 03:24 just naturally tends towards disorder; second law of 03:27 thermodynamics. The Bible says the earth is getting old like a 03:34 garment and that is in Psalm 102 verse 26. The Bible says one 03:38 star is different from another, one star differs from another, 03:43 I Corinthians 15:41, one star is different. Do you know we know 03:47 now that there are not two stars alike in the universe? Every 03:53 star is different. They have their own spectral light. They 03:58 pass starlight through a prism, then through a spectrometer and 04:03 see the absorption lines actually and in that they can 04:06 tell every element that's present on a star. In fact, they 04:10 tell us every naturally-occurring element on earth we see in our 04:15 sun to some degree or another. The Bible says one star differs 04:19 and if you remember and you'll see coming up pictures we have 04:23 where the Hubble zoomed in on the Omega star cluster and we 04:27 have 10,000 stars. I mean the colors in there are just 04:30 incredible. I mean, you can see green and blue and the red stars 04:35 being the cooler stars and yellow stars are cooler stars, 04:37 blue and the white ones would be the hotter stars. But the 04:43 chemical composition... we can see the elements that are 04:48 present in a star and in our sun So in the laboratory they could 04:52 heat carbon and pass it through a light and get the fingerprint 04:56 of carbon, get the fingerprint for every element and then we 05:00 can look at stars and compare that. So the Bible says one star 05:04 differs from another star in glory. In fact, it probably 05:08 wouldn't hurt to mention this. You know, we have never seen 05:12 a star being born. We cannot show you a picture where we 05:16 did not have a star 50 years ago and now we have a star. I don't 05:21 care what it says in the books. Orion is a star birth area, this 05:25 is a star birth nebula, this is a star birth galaxy where stars 05:31 are being born at great rates. Well if you continue to study, 05:35 you will discover that it takes 100 million years for a star to 05:39 be born. Our telescopes have only been around for about 400 05:43 years and so that's why we've never seen a star being born 05:47 because it takes millions of years. But I'd just like to tell 05:51 you, I don't care what the books say, we can't show you a picture 05:55 fifty years ago where we didn't have a star and now we do. 05:58 We have never seen a star being born. In fact, they say that the 06:02 universe is 13.7 billion years old and I don't particularly 06:06 have a problem with that. I believe the earth is young and 06:10 one of these days we'll get into that and I'll show you the Bible 06:13 says God's throne has been in the heavens from everlasting 06:17 from eternity past. If you check it out over and over and over 06:20 again the Bible says God's throne is in the heavens and 06:25 it's from old in the heavens and it's from everlasting. 06:29 The different scriptures would show you that. So people who say 06:34 that everything in the universe is made 6000 years ago, what do 06:39 you do with that? We have an infinite God that can create a 06:44 bazillion of everything and there is nothing in the universe till 06:49 Genesis 1? And the Lord says, man, I think I've got an idea. 06:53 I think I'll create a universe. Now if you check it out folks 06:56 the focus of Genesis the first chapter is the earth, the earth, 06:59 the earth, 21 times the earth, the earth, the earth, the earth, 07:02 the earth. Fifty-six times things about the earth and God 07:04 says in the creation account I'm talking about the firmament, the 07:11 air, the earth. I get letters and e-mails whenever I say this, 07:18 but check it out, of old he laid the foundations of the earth and 07:24 the heavens are the works of his hands. What would qualify as of 07:29 old? You see some of these Christians say that the universe 07:33 is young but the Bible says in II Peter, it's of old, it's of 07:37 old. Well you could go to Micah 5:2 where it's talking about 07:42 Christ, it says, Bethlehem Ephrata, out of thee shall come 07:48 he who is of old and then it adds from everlasting. So this 07:54 is an interesting topic, but if you check it out... I mean 07:59 Revelation 12:12: Rejoice ye heavens. It's talking about 08:03 when Satan is cast out of heaven into the earth. Woe to the earth 08:08 and it says he has a short time. Six thousand years is considered 08:12 a short time but yet the Bible mentions... Could it be God laid 08:16 the foundations of the earth of old and the earth was without 08:20 form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep and 08:25 then 6000 years ago God came back and put life on earth. 08:29 Check it out. I think there's something here. That does not do 08:34 violence to the scripture or to science. These Christians out 08:38 there that say the universe is 6000 years old most of them they 08:42 won't keep the fourth commandment but they 08:43 use that. That's the one powerful scripture they use to 08:46 prove their point. For in six days the Lord made heaven, the 08:50 firmament and the earth. OK. Because God told us in verse 8, 08:55 he told us I'm talking about the sky. For in six days the Lord 08:59 made the firmament, the earth, the sea. If it is a hundred 09:03 billion, 200 billion galaxies, the earth, why would you 09:09 mention the sea? The earth is already 70 percent sea. That 09:14 really doesn't fit, does it? But if you put that scripture, 09:18 Genesis 1 verse 8, put that into the fourth commandment for in 09:21 six days the Lord made the firmament, the earth and the sea 09:24 all of a sudden it starts to fit So I think there's something 09:29 there. I really, folks, my heart aches. I think people will be 09:35 lost because of this issue. I mean, this is almost like the 09:40 gospel with some of them, almost like the gospel. And they say 09:44 this universe was made 6000 years ago. That last galaxy that 09:48 we showed you, 13 billion light years away, no, no, no, that 09:51 light got here. You know they jump through all these hoops 09:54 trying to figure out how the light could get here in 6000 09:57 years, but if you take a serious look... We're going to try to do 10:02 a program on that coming up. It will be months and months from 10:06 now when we get back to that. I kind of got off my subject but I 10:11 really believe people who are so emphatic, so dogmatic that this 10:16 universe was made 6000 years ago, people with a scientific 10:21 interest will roll their eyes. Another flat-earth person. They 10:26 think of you as a flat-earth person. You tell them this 10:28 universe was made 6000 years ago and then jump through four 10:30 or five, six hoops trying to explain how light got here and 10:33 all this kind of stuff. I know God could create the light on 10:37 the way but we have a problem because tonight we will probably 10:40 discover an exploding star that didn't happen. God said I'm 10:43 going to put one here and I'll put one over there and I'll put 10:46 one over there so it looks like it was made 6000 years ago. God 10:51 doesn't lie. But we need to get on with our program and the 10:54 whole point is we're trying to have some fun here in the 10:58 classroom. We want something testable and we don't want 11:01 creation, we don't want intelligent design, we want 11:04 science. And yet science changes all the time. So I have one 11:14 graphic coming up here I think. My wife and I, we've traveled 11:20 and lectured. We've been in Russia. I should probably say 11:25 Hi to my friends in Russia. We've been in 20 cities in 11:29 Russia. We've done campmeeting in Australia, campmeeting in 11:33 France and of course in the U.S. We're heading for camp meeting 11:36 in the Dominican Republic and so forth. The when we were in 11:40 Australia several years ago, we took that little solar telescope 11:45 you see over there, we took that scope with us and when we 11:48 arrived on Friday, lo and behold we had an eruption on the sun. 11:53 When you see an eruption like this it just takes your breath 11:57 away. Boy, that's the biggest one I have ever seen and 12:00 fortunately the people in Australia at camp meeting got to 12:03 look at that eruption. It was there unusually long. Normally 12:06 a true flare goes up and is gone in 20 minutes. It goes up at the 12:11 rate of 400 miles a second. The videos you see of the sun, of 12:15 course, are one thing because they're time lapsed. When we 12:18 were looking through this telescope you don't actually 12:22 see it move because it's 93 million miles away and 400 miles 12:28 in a second... You sense it's moving and I know many times 12:32 I've thought it was moving and I'll have maybe my wife take a 12:36 look at the telescope and you know 30 seconds later I go back 12:40 and it's doubled in that period of time. When you saw that arch 12:44 and you realize that our sun is almost 900 thousand miles in 12:48 diameter, so that globe of the sun, you see that arch of the 12:52 sun and then you see that eruption and we're talking a 12:56 huge, huge eruption, probably 200,000 miles or so, really a 13:02 large eruption. Getting back to our class we were talking about 13:06 science and testing it in the classroom so here was kind of 13:11 an interesting article. Today in the class the subject is solar 13:17 physics. Here was a statement that I found. It said, Oh 13:20 teachings beware. The solar dynamics observatory, that's the 13:25 SDO, is set to launch in February. Researchers 13:29 expect the SDO to rewrite the textbooks on solar physics using 13:35 a battery of advanced telescopes and magnetic sensors, some of 13:40 which can even peer beneath the sun's surface. So they're saying 13:45 you've got to rewrite the textbooks now because we have 13:47 this new satellite. Continuing on talking about the sun, here's 13:53 some stuff that I've pulled off of the internet and magazines 13:57 and books and so forth and this statement says, although it may 14:02 look empty, space is filled with gas and dust. Most of the 14:06 material was hydrogen and helium. This is how our sun was 14:10 formed. You've got to listen to this, but some of it was made of 14:14 left over remnants from violent deaths of stars. Now how did a 14:18 star form, how did our sun form? Well it formed by left over 14:23 violent deaths of other stars. Waves of energy traveling 14:28 through space pressed clouds of such particles closer together 14:33 and gravity caused them to collapse into themselves. This 14:37 is how the sun formed. The material grew closer. Gravity 14:43 caused it to spin. The spin caused the cloud to flatten into 14:48 a disk like a pancake. In the center of the material clumped 14:54 together to form a protostar that would eventually become 15:00 the sun. The young protostar was a ball of hydrogen and helium not 15:05 yet powered by fusion. Over the course of about 50 million years 15:10 the temperature and the pressure of the material inside 15:15 increased jumpstarting the fusion of hydrogen that drives 15:20 the sun today. It jump-started it, OK. Gravity, temperature, 15:25 pressure... Trying to create a sun on earth, these 2000 15:29 scientists, 20 billion dollars, because if we could harness the 15:34 sun there's so much energy in the fusion process of hydrogen 15:39 in the sun it would solve our energy problems. The problem 15:43 with it is so powerful. We can split the atom and control 15:46 it fairly well, but when it comes to hydrogen, I mean, it's 15:49 great for blowing up things if you want to build bombs, but it 15:54 is so powerful. But if we could just harness the chemical energy 15:58 that God put in the atom. The atoms in a penny; if you could 16:03 release that energy this would be equal to 2.2 million gallons 16:06 of gasoline. In a paper clip, if you could totally release the 16:11 power in every atom of a paper clip it would be equal to 18,000 16:15 tons of TNT. Yes, God spoke that energy into the atom and the 16:19 fusion process on the sun just continues to go on and on and 16:24 on. Well we are in France and also in Lawrence Livermore 16:28 National Laboratory trying to create a sun on earth. And what 16:32 they have accomplished, what 2000 scientists have 16:34 accomplished with 20 billion dollars is they have been able 16:37 to heat a capsule to the temperature of the core of the 16:42 sun for 20 trillionths of a second. They can't leave it on 16:45 longer because they don't want to melt California off the map. 16:49 So we've got this incredible power but yet the book, the text 16:53 says over the course of about 50 million years the temperature 16:59 and the pressure of the material inside increased jump-starting 17:03 the fusion of hydrogen that drives the sun today. Scientists 17:08 believe that the solar system was formed when a cloud of gas 17:14 and dust in space was disturbed, maybe by an explosion of a 17:19 nearby star called a super nova. Well wait a minute. I thought we 17:23 were trying to figure out the first star came to be but we 17:28 a star to make a star. OK. I'll read it again. Scientists 17:32 believe the solar system was formed when a cloud of gas and 17:37 dust in space was disturbed, maybe the explosion of a 17:42 nearby star. I thought we didn't have any stars. I thought we 17:46 were looking for a star. This is called a super nova. This 17:49 explosion made waves in space which squeezed the clouds of gas 17:52 and dust. In a vacuum, you're going to squeeze gas in a 17:57 vacuum? Gas wants to fill the vacuum, wants to fill the 18:03 container. So, squeezing made the clouds start to collapse, 18:08 OK, as gravity pulled the gas, the gravity of what, pulled the 18:13 gas and the dust together forming a solar nebula. What 18:17 gravity did that? In space we're at 450 below zero where it's a 18:27 vacuum and we've got to get from 400 below zero to 150 million 18:35 degrees C and so, just like a dancer that spins faster as she 18:42 pulls in her arms, the cloud began to spin and collapse, OK. 18:47 They've actually clocked skaters when they pull in their arms at 18:52 over 300 revolutions a minute. The sun should be screaming 18:56 around, this is actually how it happened, and you can't even 18:59 see it move. We watch it every day. It takes 14 days for a sun 19:03 spot to move across the sun and it should be spinning like a 19:07 blades on a jet. If you took 12 trillion miles of gas and 19:11 condensed it down to the solar nebula it should be screaming. 19:16 And actually the earth is 28 times faster than the rotation 19:22 and this violates the second law of conservation of momentum. OK. 19:28 Eventually the cloud grew hotter and denser in the center. As the 19:35 disk got thinner and thinner, particles began to stick 19:38 together and form clumps. Some of these clumps got bigger as 19:42 particles of the smaller clumps stuck together eventually 19:47 forming the planets and the moon. So that's how our sun 19:52 supposedly formed. In our class room we are talking about 19:56 science wanting something they can test. OK. I think you see 20:01 we've got some problems here. It's interesting, it would be 20:06 nice if those people who promote evolution would be honest and 20:11 not try to deceive us and deceive the children and write 20:13 stuff in the textbooks that is not true. We see so much of that 20:17 and we have seen fossils. We had Piltdown man, we had Java 20:24 man, we had Nebraska man, we have had in National Geographic 20:32 199910 pages, beautiful color pages of dinosaurs with 20:36 feathers, the headline says feathers for T-Rex. That was 20:40 November of 1999. April, five months later, two little 20:45 paragraphs, woops, this fossil was doctored. And we had that 20:51 tooth in a gravel pit in Nebraska discovered by Harold 20:55 Cook and they created a whole race of people living in 20:58 Nebraska a million years ago. Of course, we've got to give it a 21:02 scientific name. Since it was discovered by Harold Cook it 21:06 became Hesperopithecus haroldcookii, and it turned out 21:10 to be a pig's tooth that they had created... You can go on and 21:14 look up Nebraska man. You can find pictures in the newspaper 21:18 We've discovered a race of in living in Nebraska a million 21:22 years ago. We've got good evidence for what I'm saying. 21:26 Here was an article where it says that evolution became in a 21:30 sense a scientific religion. Yes evolution is a religion and you 21:35 need a lot of faith to believe this stuff. This article says 21:40 almost all scientists have accepted it and many are 21:43 prepared to bend their observations to fit in with it. 21:47 This is from the Institute of Physics, Uppsala, Sweden and it 21:53 is J.U. Olsen. Another article in Sky and Telescope magazine and 21:58 that article says, by tweaking the basic cosmic parameters the 22:04 model can be fine-tuned to match the data. So what we're saying 22:10 is that people are prepared to bend their observations and also 22:16 tweak the data to make the two match. The subject today is 22:20 black holes. Class is going to study black holes. You're going 22:24 learn all about black holes. And for that, whoops, we're going to 22:28 have to have some magic. Here was an article in Astronomy 22:31 magazine which says, astronomers who study black holes are cosmic 22:35 magicians. They need to coax a great deal of meaning out of 22:39 precious little information. That was Astronomy magazine, 22:44 November, 2007. Galaxies. What created the black holes in the 22:49 center of our galaxy. The answer is we don't really know. It's 22:53 almost a chicken-and-an-egg situation, which came first, the 22:57 black hole and the galaxy formed around it or the galaxy and the 23:02 black hole formed within it. That was from Planet Science web 23:07 site. This we've quoted it in some our other programs and 23:12 I'm going to quote it again. Dr. Bacani from Los Angeles who 23:16 wrote a book and the title of that book was The Atoms, 23:22 Einstein, and the Universe. He says in the very beginning the 23:26 universe may have been as small as a millionth of a millionth of 23:29 a millionth the size of the smallest atom and it may have 23:33 been a million, million, million, million degrees and 23:37 here's how you get a universe without a creator, without a God 23:42 Because he goes on to say that we have this tremendous energy 23:47 in the universe. We see our sun erupting and fusing, 620 metric 23:52 tons of hydrogen every second, every second it fuses. 23:56 It's going to go for billions of years. So Dr. Bacani says we 24:01 have all this energy in the universe, but we have all this 24:05 negative potential energy and, therefore, energy cancels itself 24:09 out and therefore the universe could practically create itself. 24:13 Stephen Hawking would agree to that. But the Bible in Romans 24:17 1:22 says professing themselves to be wise they became fools. 24:22 Therefore, nothing created everything. OK. Class today 24:30 we're going to study galaxy clusters. Here was an article in 24:35 Astronomy. com on galaxy clusters and it said, for more than two 24:39 decades astronomers thought they had a good grasp of what was 24:43 happening in the center of galaxy clusters. Now they think 24:47 it's almost completely wrong. Sorry class, we're not getting 24:52 very far on learning about testable, verifiable, 24:55 falsifiable science. Here's another article by Norwitz 25:00 astrophysicist: One hundred billion galaxies, the silent 25:05 embarrassment to modern astrophysicists is they do not 25:09 know how even a single one of these stars managed to form. 25:14 Folks it is a joke, it's an absolute joke, absolute joke. 25:19 Hydrogen gas 12 trillion miles across pulled by gravity in the 25:23 coldness of space, in the vacuum of space, spinning and 25:25 condensing till they hit 100 million degrees where it's 400 25:29 below zero. It is a joke. Well our time is running out, but 25:32 you know we can test some things of the Bible because the Bible, 25:38 even though it's not a science book, the writers were prevented 25:44 from following the errors of the time. I like the one where it 25:49 says the animals produced after their kind. And I love this 25:52 illustration. You take an egg from a cat, a sperm from a dog, 25:58 everything for life. Francis Crick would be happy if DNA and 26:05 amino acids got here on an asteroid or a comet. This is a 26:11 guy who discovered DNA, he says the cat is so complex it could 26:20 never have created itself. Life could not create itself. 26:23 Therefore, maybe aliens did it. Maybe it arrived here on a comet 26:29 He would be happy if we could get DNA or if we could get amino 26:34 acids here on a comet or an asteroid. Maybe that's how life 26:39 got started. That is Francis Crick. So give me an egg from 26:43 a cat, and a sperm... let's test creation. Let's test the Bible. 26:46 They claim it's so easy. Ten million species on earth, 26:50 created themselves from this warm little pond and giving 26:54 everything necessary for absolutely everything necessary 26:58 for life, an egg from a cat and a sperm from a dog, it will not 27:01 work because your Bible says they reproduce after their kind. 27:05 Folks, we have just tested a statement from the Bible and 27:08 we've tested from evolution. You see, it will not work. Folks, it 27:12 cannot happen. That amoeba is never coming out of that pond. 27:16 That amoeba is never getting eyeballs because his DNA will 27:19 not permit it. There are 50 genes that are there to correct 27:23 for copying errors for mutations 50 genes in our body that are 27:27 there to correct for mutations and they say mutations is how 27:31 that amoeba, that microorganism, got out of the pond. Well here 27:34 we are down by the end of another program. I want to thank 27:38 you for watching Heavens Declare We'll be looking forward to our 27:43 next program. I'm Jim Burr. Thank you much. |
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