Participants: Neil Nedley, Don Mackintosh
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000063
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00:42 Hello and welcome to "Health for a Lifetime!
00:44 I'm your host Don Mackintosh 00:46 and today, I'm just delighted to have Dr. Neil Nedley 00:48 back with us, Welcome Dr. Nedley! 00:50 Thank you, good to be here. 00:51 I understand you're working on a new book 00:53 that's a little bit depressing! 00:55 Well, that's what the book is about, actually. 00:58 So maybe it's not depressing, maybe it's how to deal with that 01:02 You maybe don't even have a title for the book yet, 01:05 but you're working on that, it's coming out... 01:08 Some of the things we're going to be sharing today will be 01:11 in that book... either when they see this program, 01:13 or maybe a little bit after. 01:15 What exactly is depression? 01:18 I mean, lots of people have different ideas when you say, 01:19 "I'm depressed" It could just mean 01:21 you don't feel good that day, 01:22 but what really is depression? 01:23 Well depression is a sense of deep sadness... 01:26 that's what most people equate depression with. 01:29 But as far as in the medical community, 01:31 we classify MAJOR depression as a disease entity. 01:37 It's actually a mental illness, and it goes beyond 01:39 just having an occasional blue Monday, 01:41 even though it isn't Monday. 01:43 It really goes beyond that to a disease. 01:47 So it's something that is actually verifiable. 01:53 You can diagnose it; you can say... 01:55 This is exactly what it is, it's not something else. 01:58 This is what it is. Correct... And how do you go about that? 02:01 Well, we go about that by looking at the symptoms. 02:04 Actually, the diagnosis of depression is very much 02:08 a part of the symptoms of depression, 02:12 and if you have 5 of those 9 symptoms for more than 2 weeks, 02:16 you are depressed. 02:18 You fit the diagnosis of major depression. 02:21 Okay, so if you have your pen and pencil, 02:24 you're going to tell us those, aren't you? That's right 02:25 So, maybe you can repeat them later too, 02:27 but what are those 9 symptoms... 02:30 And you said if you have 4 or more, 5 or more? Five 02:33 ...of these 9, then you have major depression, 02:36 if it's gone on for 2 weeks. Correct 02:38 Okay, what are they? 02:39 Deep sadness is one of them, or a feeling of emptiness. 02:44 Some people will just feel emptiness inside, 02:47 and not really the deep sadness... 02:49 But if that persists for more than 2 weeks, 02:51 you've got one of the symptoms. Okay... 02:53 The 2nd symptom is that of apathy... where an individual 02:58 just doesn't have the motivation they used to have. 03:01 Doing fun things aren't really all that fun anymore. 03:06 And just a general sense of a lack of purpose would fit 03:14 under the "apathy," which is the 2nd characteristic. 03:19 The 3rd is agitation... 03:21 And individuals here can actually have restlessness, 03:25 or they might actually have a slowing of their body motions. 03:29 This also counts as agitation. 03:31 If you see someone walking, for instance, 03:33 and they aren't walking with the PEP in their steps... 03:38 Spunk in their trunk... 03:39 That could be that they're suffering from at least 03:42 one of symptoms of depression. 03:44 The 4th symptom is sleep disturbance. 03:48 Some individuals will be too sleepy, 03:51 and actually be sleepy throughout the day, 03:54 want to sleep more at night... 03:55 And then other people will have insomnia, 03:57 and not be able to sleep. 03:59 Most people actually fit into the insomnia role, 04:02 but some will have the hypersomnia, or too much sleep. 04:06 So if someone is sleeping a lot, 04:08 they say, "This is not fun. " 04:09 You say, "Are you having fun?" 04:11 And they say, "No. " 04:12 "Didn't you used to enjoy this?" "Yes" 04:14 You can sort of pick up on whether or not, 04:19 if you knew the right questions to ask, 04:20 whether or not someone is depressed. 04:22 That's right... that's one of the things I'd like to bring out 04:24 is this doesn't require a psychiatrist, or even a 04:28 mental health professional, 04:29 or a physician to come up with this diagnosis. 04:32 An informed lay person can actually diagnosis people 04:36 correctly with major depression, 04:38 or even diagnose themselves. 04:40 So we have deep sadness, apathy, agitation, 04:42 and sleep disturbances... 04:44 Just one question before we go on... 04:46 Deep sadness versus apathy again, 04:49 I don't know if I really understood that. 04:51 Deep sadness... is that where they say, 04:52 "I'm just REALLY sad," or how can you tell 04:55 when someone is deeply sad? 04:56 Often it will be crying spells without apparent reason... 05:01 That's one of the things I see in my office practice a lot. 05:04 People will be there for another reason, 05:05 they'll be talking about something... 05:07 I'll ask them a few questions about how things are going, 05:09 and then they lose control, 05:12 and they start crying. 05:13 And they're embarrassed about it often... 05:15 Of course we have tissues there because this is a 05:18 frequent occurrence in a doctor's office, 05:20 and they wipe their eyes, and I reassure them. 05:23 But to me, they would be labeled with that 05:27 deep sadness from that point. 05:29 Okay, deep sadness, apathy, agitation, 05:31 sleep disturbances, what else? 05:33 Weight changes or appetite changes. 05:36 Some individuals will feel a need to eat all the time, 05:40 and will actually gain weight; 05:41 and others will LOSE their appetite; 05:44 lose their sense of hunger, 05:45 and actually not be hungry, and as a result, lose weight. 05:51 Okay, so if they're heading for the refrigerator, 05:53 they could be depressed, or if they're NOT, 05:55 they could be depressed, but you have to look at 05:57 the other symptoms. 05:58 What's another one? 05:59 Another one is actually a sense of worthlessness. 06:03 Individuals will actually feel like they don't have 06:08 self-worth anymore, and they won't feel useful to others. 06:11 They will always be putting themselves down in regards 06:16 to their attributes... 06:17 And that is one of the more serious, 06:20 but a real symptom of depression. 06:22 Why is it more serious? 06:24 Because that usually leads to yet another symptom 06:27 of depression, and that is morbid thoughts. 06:30 Once people get this feeling of worthlessness, 06:33 some people, as they advance, will actually begin to get 06:36 into the morbid thoughts where they're actually 06:38 beginning to plan their demise, or coming up with a suicide plan 06:44 Okay, so any others? 06:46 Yes, lack of concentration is another. 06:50 In fact, this is very common among depressed individuals. 06:54 They will be indecisive. 06:56 They will have a very difficult time in making a decision. 06:59 The evidence is there; they can look at the evidence, 07:03 but as far as making a decision based upon that evidence, 07:06 they have a real rough time doing that, 07:07 and they often relegate that 07:09 decision-making process to others... 07:11 And that is a very significant, 07:14 but very common symptom of depression. 07:17 So if you have 5 of these symptoms, 07:21 that being deep sadness, apathy, agitation, sleep disturbance, 07:25 ...help me out when I get wrong here, 07:27 weight or weight loss, fatigue... 07:30 Okay, we didn't mention fatigue, but that is the 9th one. 07:34 And that's the one that most people come to me, 07:37 as an internal medicine physician, for. 07:39 They're coming to try to find out... "Why am I so tired. " 07:42 And in the process, I start asking them other questions, 07:46 and not always, but some of the people that come to me 07:50 complaining of fatigue... 07:51 the reason for it is they're depressed, 07:53 and they haven't really recognized that. 07:55 And then we have to give them that diagnosis, 07:59 and then also find out why they're depressed... 08:02 and then get them on the appropriate treatment program. 08:04 So 5 out of 9 for 2 weeks... 08:06 But let me say, what if I just had my dog die, 08:09 or I had a relative die, or I 08:10 was in a car accident, does that count? 08:12 That would count for situational depression. 08:16 Situational depression normally resolves on its own. 08:19 Given enough time, after a grieving event, 08:24 the depression and the deep sadness and emptiness goes away. 08:28 With major depression; however, it does not go away on its own. 08:31 At least, most commonly it does not, 08:34 and the only way it's going to go away is when we find 08:37 the cause, and get on the appropriate treatment program 08:40 ...and then it can be gone forever! 08:41 You don't have to be depressed for life. 08:43 Okay, so there's good news! 08:45 It's not ALL depressing. That's right 08:48 So, once you diagnose it with 5 out of those 9, 08:52 or, you know, maybe just a sub-situation where you're 08:58 not really having it full-blown but you have some of it. 09:01 What are the real risk factors involved? 09:04 Is it, in fact, just a coping mechanism, 09:07 so that you don't burn yourself out when 09:09 bad things are happening, or are there really 09:12 down-sides to having depression? 09:14 Oh there are significant down sides to having depression. 09:18 It would be bad enough, Don, if it just caused these things. 09:23 I mean, living your life with deep sadness and emptiness 09:26 is a sad state of affairs to be in. 09:29 But, unfortunately, it does much more than that... 09:31 It increases the risk in men of having a heart attack. 09:34 It increases the risk of both sexes if they're depressed. 09:37 After having had a heart attack, it increases their risk of 09:40 dying from complications of their heart attack. 09:43 It increases the risk of certain cancers. 09:46 And, it also increases the risk of stroke. 09:50 All of the 3 major killers in America... 09:53 it increases the risk of those. 09:54 Correct... it will also increase the risk of actually having 09:59 complications of diabetes, even. 10:02 And, on top of that, of course, it increases the risk of suicide 10:06 which is one of the most devastating 10:08 consequences of depression. 10:10 So, you really should just say, Paul or Jane or Mary or Susan 10:15 is going to work through this.. just give them time. 10:17 No, unfortunately, if Paul, or Mary or Jane or Susan 10:22 have depression, they really need to find out 10:24 why, and get on an appropriate treatment program 10:27 as soon as possible. 10:28 You mentioned suicide, tell us a little bit more about that. 10:33 How often do people that are depressed actually 10:37 commit suicide? 10:39 Well, it's the 8th leading cause of death in America today, Don. 10:42 ...31,000 people every year in the United States 10:46 die from suicide. Wow 10:49 And among those ages 15-25, 10:52 it's the third leading cause of death. 10:55 Why is it elevated in young people 15-25? 10:58 Well, that's a very good question. 11:00 It actually has to do with some of the root causes of 11:04 depression. 11:08 We are now finding out that the frontal lobe is the seat 11:11 and the origin center of just 11:13 about every case of major depression. 11:16 And it takes 30 years for the frontal lobe to be fully 11:19 developed in human beings; 11:20 so the 15-25 year group hasn't had their frontal lobe 11:24 fully developed... Not everything is connected; 11:25 all the sockets are not in yet, all the cylinders... 11:29 Not all the connections are there... 11:31 And secondly, often the 15-25 year age group 11:35 are on a lifestyle program that is further suppressing 11:38 the frontal lobe; high entertainment television, 11:40 a poor diet, not getting proper sleep... 11:44 And then if they have a bad event happen, 11:46 such as they break up with their girlfriend, 11:48 or something else bad happens, 11:51 and then if they have a substance onboard like 11:53 alcohol... you put all those things together, 11:55 and you end up very commonly, unfortunately, with suicide. 12:00 So when it's not connected, their frontal lobe, 12:02 all the way that is... I mean, I'm not trying to 12:05 say to the people that are watching today, 12:06 "Hey, you're disconnected," 12:07 but, really, it's still coming together, 12:09 and then if you compromise it through drinking, 12:13 through smoking, through whatever those 12:15 different things are... drugs, all that kind of stuff, 12:18 and THEN you have a bad event, 12:21 you just don't have the wherewithal to get through it. 12:24 Correct... And so you say, 12:26 "I might as well just end it all. " 12:29 Often that's what people do. Sad 12:33 So, what should you do, and maybe we'll talk more 12:41 about this a little bit later in the program... 12:44 And we'll start talking about it now... 12:45 What should you do if you KNOW someone 12:47 who you believe is suicidal? 12:49 They need to get help, and they need to get help immediately. 12:53 If anyone states that they want to die, 12:56 they wish they were dead, those are code words 13:00 for saying that they are contemplating suicide. 13:03 So you shouldn't just try and talk him out of it 13:05 and say, "Oh, you'll be okay," not that kind of stuff... No 13:07 And so what do you mean, "get help" 13:09 Because most people listening would say, 13:12 "Well, that's what it means, you just talk to them" 13:14 What does it mean when you say, "Get help. " 13:16 Well actually, at that point, they need professional help. 13:19 They need to find out why they're feeling that way. 13:22 And, they also need to be on appropriate treatment 13:27 for their depression... so that they no longer feel that way. 13:31 Now it is true that many family members can help 13:35 them through the process. 13:36 One of the ways is by actually 13:39 finding out what instills hope in them. 13:41 The fact that they haven't committed suicide 13:43 usually means that there IS some hope... 13:46 And then dwelling on those hope aspects of things, 13:49 and then trying to get them to see when their talking 13:51 about this, that they really need some help, 13:54 can go a long way in saving a life. 13:57 So what if they say, "Well look, I hear what you're saying, 13:59 and whatnot, but I don't want to listen to you" 14:01 and they're belligerent; I want you to answer that question. 14:04 It looks like we're just about out of time for our break, 14:06 but when we come back, what about the person 14:08 who is not listening to their relatives? 14:11 We've been talking to Dr. Neil Nedley. 14:12 When we come back, he'll help us understand HOW 14:15 to intervene if someone has that major depression, 14:17 and, in fact, they're suicidal. 14:19 Join us when we come back. 14:23 Have you found yourself wishing that you could shed a few pounds 14:26 Have you been on a diet for most of your life... 14:28 but not found anything that will really keep the weight off? 14:31 If you've answered "yes" to any of these questions, 14:34 then we have a solution for you that works. 14:37 Dr. Hans Diehl and Dr. Aileen Ludington 14:40 have written a marvelous booklet called 14:42 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 14:44 and we'd like to send it to you FREE of charge. 14:47 Here's a medically sound approach successfully used 14:50 by thousands who are able to eat more and lost weight 14:53 permanently without feeling 14:55 guilty or hungry through lifestyle medicine. 14:58 Dr. Diehl and Dr. Ludington have been featured on 3ABN 15:01 and in this booklet, they present a sensible approach 15:04 to eating, nutrition, and lifestyle changes that can 15:07 help you prevent heart disease, diabetes and EVEN cancer. 15:10 Call or write today for your free copy of 15:13 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 15:15 and you can be on your way to a healthier, happier YOU! 15:18 It's absolutely FREE of charge, so call or write today! 15:24 Welcome back, we've been talking with Dr. Neil Nedley 15:27 about depression. 15:29 But you know, we had mentioned just before we went away... 15:32 that if someone is so depressed 15:35 that they're suicidal, how do we intervene? 15:37 What if they don't respond? I want to come back to that... 15:39 But, there was some interesting, what would you say, risk factors 15:44 that set us up for depression 15:45 that I think that we should cover, 15:46 and then we'll come back, so remind me if I don't remind you 15:48 to come back to that question... 15:50 But what are some of the risk factors, 15:51 who is more likely to be depressed? 15:53 Well actually, as far as suicide itself, males are more likely 15:58 to commit suicide. 15:59 Females are more likely to be depressed, 16:01 but males are 4 times as likely 16:03 to commit suicide than females are. 16:05 Is that because... do females females attempt suicide more? 16:09 Females actually do attempt it more, 16:12 but they're not near as successful on their attempts. 16:16 Males, when they do it, they tend to really WANT to do it, 16:21 and get it done the first time... 16:24 And so that's something to keep in mind; 16:26 if you have a depressed male, it can be, 16:31 although it can be serious with females as well. 16:34 Often you need to take it a little more 16:36 seriously in a male person. 16:38 Okay, so then what are some of the other risk factors 16:40 besides being male? 16:41 ...Being under the influence of alcohol. 16:44 Almost 50% of all suicides take place under the influence 16:48 of alcoholic beverages... That makes sense! 16:52 And mind-altering substances; other drugs onboard... 16:56 And so that is something that we really need to 16:59 pay attention to, and if those drugs weren't used, 17:02 then we would have a lot less suicides. 17:04 Again, the frontal lobe, you're saying... they can't really 17:07 use their reasoning abilities. Correct... What else? 17:10 Unwillingness or refusal to seek help for their depression 17:15 is actually a risk factor for suicide itself. 17:18 So that's the one we were talking about then... 17:20 that if they say, "No, I'm not going to get help" 17:22 That's actually another risk factor! 17:23 That's a risk factor, that's right. 17:26 Another one would be if the individual had a serious 17:30 physical illness. 17:32 The elderly actually commit suicide at a higher rate 17:38 than any other age group; 17:40 even a little higher than the 15-24 year age group... 17:42 And that's because often they have a serious physical illness 17:46 and they don't know how to cope with it, 17:48 and they go ahead and commit suicide. 17:50 And say... "Might as well get it over with. " 17:51 That's their thought process, but unfortunately, 17:55 it's not a healthy thought process. No, not at all. 17:57 And then homosexuality is actually a risk factor 18:02 for depression, as is those that listen to heavy metal music. 18:06 ...That has been shown now as a risk factor for depression. 18:10 How would someone who is homosexual be a risk factor? 18:13 Is that because of the way others in society 18:15 relate to that behavior, or is that 18:17 because of the behavior itself? 18:19 Probably a combination of those factors. 18:23 Actually, the researchers who brought out 18:26 homosexuality as a risk factor, mentioned that 18:30 those are 2 probable reasons, 18:32 but the ACTUAL reason why it's a risk factor 18:35 has not been completely unfolded. 18:37 And heavy metal, why is it that that's a risk factor? 18:40 Probably again, because of 18:42 what it does to the frontal lobe of the brain. 18:44 Heavy metal music has quite a suppressant effect 18:47 on the frontal lobe, and it can have an influence actually 18:51 similar to alcohol on the frontal lobe of the brain. 18:53 Seems to me like country western music 18:55 might be a little depressive. 18:56 ...Listening to that... "Oh, she left me, she left me" 18:59 "Oh, he left me, he left me" "Oh, poor me" 19:01 Yeah, it can be melancholy music... 19:04 and, who knows, we might find 19:06 out that that's a risk factor as well... 19:08 But the one that's been looked at closest is the 19:11 heavy metal music up to this point. 19:13 Okay, so there are some of these risk factors 19:17 that you really can do something about. 19:18 What you listen to, and what behaviors you're involved in... 19:21 those are important things. Anything else? 19:24 Those are the main risk factors for suicide. 19:27 Obviously, all the risk factors for depression of 19:29 which there are even more we could get into, 19:31 but being depressed, itself, 19:33 of course, is a risk factor for suicide. 19:35 Let me come back to that question... Okay 19:37 We've now learned that one of the actual risk factors is 19:42 refusing help when someone says they're suicidal... 19:46 What should you do then, I mean, so many times 19:49 it's kind of a stigma to either ADMIT that you are depressed 19:55 and suicidal, or you don't want to be the BAD guy, so to speak 20:02 when you're helping someone. 20:03 What would you say to both 20:04 those types of individuals, and what do you do? 20:08 Well first of all, it's always better if you can, 20:11 to try to talk the individual into receiving help. 20:14 Try to talk them into the benefits that they could 20:17 gain from this, and the fact that they don't need 20:19 to be worried about the stigma. 20:21 Abraham Lincoln suffered from severe depression. 20:24 Winston Churchill suffered from severe depression. 20:28 But these individuals were able to actually harness 20:31 the powers of their brain, and get on a program 20:35 that actually made them GREAT individuals. 20:38 So just because you're having severe depression, 20:40 or having suicidal thoughts, and are seeking help for that, 20:45 does not relegate you to the dumps of society by any means. 20:49 But there are, as you mentioned, there are people, 20:53 that no matter you talk to them, they are going to say, 20:55 "I'm sorry, I'm not going to get help. " 20:57 "Yeah, I want to end it all, and I don't want to have 21:02 anybody intervene. " 21:03 So what do you do then? 21:05 Then you have to be the bad guy. 21:08 And being the bad guy will save a life, 21:11 and you need to understand that... 21:13 And by being the bad guy, you have to actually turn them in 21:16 to a health professional, and that health professional 21:22 or the law department also has to get involved. 21:25 The health professional can contact the police. 21:28 If they are a danger to themselves, 21:30 then the laws of this land allow us to forcefully 21:36 treat the individual... 21:38 And that means that they are committed for a 72-hour period 21:42 at which point they are given the opportunity for help. 21:46 Okay, so this is the GOOD way to be a BAD guy! That's right! 21:52 ...And we really should do that. 21:53 Will they eventually come around and say, 21:56 "You did the right thing" most times, or not? 21:58 Most of the time, they will thank that person 21:59 for saving their life down the road. 22:02 They may not do it in the first week or two, 22:04 but after they have gotten complete help, 22:07 and they're over their depression completely, 22:10 which sometimes can take a few months, 22:12 they will come back and thank you. 22:14 So, take action NOW, is really the word. 22:18 If this kind of thing is happening, 22:19 and you've seen those symptoms, 22:21 if they have 5 of the 9 different things, 22:23 and one of them is suicidal ideation, 22:25 or saying, "I'm going to do that" 22:26 They don't necessarily even have to have a plan, do they? 22:29 No, that's right. 22:30 Some suicidal patients have not had a plan 22:33 up until the minute before they committed suicide. 22:36 They're contemplating it... 22:37 They'll tend to tell somebody. 22:39 Most suicidal victims will actually tend to tell somebody 22:43 that they don't want to live anymore. 22:45 But, to ask them whether they have a plan or not, 22:49 does not necessarily tell you 22:51 as to where they're going to do it. 22:53 You should still follow through... 22:54 Now I'm interested about the Winston Churchill, 22:56 and Abraham Lincoln, I believe, that you mentioned. 22:59 You said that they had this problem but they found 23:03 ways to treat it, or to live with it. 23:05 What did Winston Churchill do? 23:06 What did Abraham Lincoln do to find satisfaction 23:10 to treat depression? 23:12 I'm sure they didn't have the drugs back then that we do. 23:15 What did they do? No, there was no Prozac 23:17 or Zoloft available in their day. 23:20 Actually, what they did was to get on a reasonably 23:23 good lifestyle program, and a thinking process 23:28 to actually get them over their depression. 23:31 And, we don't have all the details on what they did, 23:35 necessarily, but we DO know that they were both 23:40 students of the mind, and students of thinking. 23:43 And, they were actually able to habitually get their minds 23:46 OFF of the melancholy and deep depression. 23:49 I mean, Abraham Lincoln went so far as to say that 23:52 "If what I felt were equally distributed to the rest 23:57 of the human race, there wouldn't be one smile left 23:59 on the face of the earth. " 24:01 That's how bad he felt; how deeply depressed he was. 24:05 But yet, he was able to overcome that and give 24:09 the Gettysburg Address years after he had 24:12 overcome depression. 24:13 And Winston Churchill, his father thought he was going 24:17 to, in fact, was quoted as saying that, 24:20 "He would be an obscure individual 24:23 who would never make it. " 24:24 He failed his entrance exam to college a couple of times. 24:30 Winston Churchill? Winston Churchill did. 24:33 And ended up having quite a few problems 24:37 before he overcame them. 24:39 And so there is hope. 24:40 And there's actually more hope today, Don, 24:42 than there was back in those days for depression. 24:45 We now know so much more about it than we did back then, 24:48 and we also have so many more ways of finding the actual 24:53 root cause of the depression, 24:54 and then getting them on the appropriate treatment. 24:56 And let's come back to that just a minute... 24:58 We have about 3 minutes left, 25:00 but I want to ask another question. 25:01 What are the long-term effects of depression 25:05 if it's not treated? 25:06 There are serious long-term effects. 25:09 There's a loss of the hippocampus. 25:11 This is the area of the brain that involves memory. 25:14 And, the longer you are depressed, 25:16 the smaller that hippocampus will become, 25:19 and the worse the memory will end up being, 25:22 and even the opportunity for memory will go down. 25:25 Osteoporosis can result from depression.. How does that work? 25:29 We're not exactly sure, but it probably results from the 25:33 rise in the stress hormone levels; cortisol, for instance, 25:36 that occurs in depressed patients, and cortisol will 25:39 get rid of bone mass. 25:40 But, osteoporosis actually can be a problem of depression. 25:46 And then, even the common headache... 25:48 Tension headache, you'd be surprised how many 25:50 depressed individuals have tension headaches. 25:53 In fact, a lot of headache people don't even 25:55 recognize they're depressed. 25:56 They may not have the deep sadness, 25:58 but they have 5 of the other 8 symptoms, 26:02 and they're actually suffering from depression 26:05 and in order to get rid of their headache... 26:06 we have to actually find out why they're depressed first. 26:10 So, when they say, "It's all in your head" 26:16 and if it's a headache, they really should get that 26:19 tested out... maybe there's a little truth to that. 26:24 Make sure and test out why 26:25 it is that you're having those headaches... 26:27 Maybe you are actually depressed. 26:28 I had a head elder of another church come to me, 26:33 who had been to 4 other physicians, 26:35 with severe splitting headaches; had to even be on 26:38 narcotics for his headache. 26:40 And when we got through the interview process, 26:42 it was clear that he was depressed. 26:44 He didn't recognize it. 26:45 Fortunately, his wife was there, when I had asked him, 26:48 "Do you have feelings of worthlessness?" 26:49 He would say, "Oh no" and then she would 26:51 in the corner, nod her head... 26:53 and then I would talk it through with both of them, 26:55 and then he'd finally would admit 26:56 he did have feelings of worthlessness. 26:58 When he went through with it, his headache was caused by 27:00 depression. 27:02 So, this could be an indicator as well... 27:05 Not something to toy with. 27:07 Well, we have less than a minute left... 27:10 And, you're a Christian physician, is depression a sin? 27:14 No... to be depressed is not a sin. 27:18 Now, it can result from sins. 27:22 But it doesn't always have to result from sin. 27:27 You can have depression even though you never sin. 27:31 Arguably, Jesus Himself, was a Man of sorrow, 27:35 and acquainted with griefs... 27:38 But in many cases in this world, it is a result of not following 27:43 the laws of health. 27:46 And through either eating, drinking or lifestyle measures 27:50 that have helped bring this about. 27:52 We've been talking with Dr. Neil Nedley 27:54 We've talked about depression and what it is. 27:55 We hope this has helped you. 27:57 Get in touch with us. 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