Participants: Don Mackintosh, Richard Nelson
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000070
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00:46 Hello and welcome to "Health for a Lifetime"
00:48 I'm your host Don Mackintosh 00:49 and we're glad you're joining us today. 00:51 We're also delighted to have with us, 00:52 Dr. Richard Nelson Welcome doctor! 00:54 Thank you Don, I'm glad to be here today. 00:56 Doctor, you're the vice president for medical affairs 00:59 at Weimar Institute... 01:00 What exactly does that mean? What do you do? 01:03 Well, Weimar Institute has a number of different 01:05 health programs. 01:06 Probably the most famous is the 01:08 "NEWSTART Lifestyle Program" where... the last 01:11 23 years, people come to change their lifestyle and to gain 01:17 new health. 01:18 I understand you're also an international traveler... 01:20 What do you do around the world? 01:22 We take the NEWSTART Lifestyle Program, 01:24 which has been SO successful in California, 01:27 and take it around the world. 01:28 We've been in about 217 cities as of now, about 30 countries 01:35 since 1982; so we just turned 18 years old as far as 01:40 the "health expo" wing is concerned. 01:42 And you've been with the institute for quite some time? 01:45 Yes, this is my 4th year at Weimar Institute. 01:49 My first 3 years was as a volunteer, when I also 01:53 was working as an assistant clinical professor with 01:55 Loma Linda University out in Saudi Arabia... 01:59 And during my vacations, I would join the 02:02 preventive medicine, or health expo team 02:04 in various places of the world. 02:07 What exactly is a lifestyle-related illness? 02:10 Well, the leading causes of death in North America 02:14 right now include heart disease. 02:16 Most heart diseases are lifestyle-related. 02:19 They're related to how we live. 02:23 The typical American lifestyle will result in 02:26 coronary artery disease, of course someone who is 02:29 overweight, type 2 diabetes, cancer, and the list goes on. 02:34 I'm sure your viewers have been seeing this in this program 02:37 the different types of lifestyle diseases. 02:40 The NEWSTART Program is designed not only to prevent the diseases 02:44 but, in many cases, actually reverse it. 02:48 That sounds exciting... 02:49 You mean, so you don't have to just be doomed to a life of 02:51 type 2 diabetes, obesity, hypertension, 02:54 all these different things, you can actually REVERSE those. 02:57 In some cases, the first one you mentioned, 03:00 type 2 diabetes, is exciting because 35%, and as much as 03:04 50% of type 2 diabetics who undergo intensive 03:09 lifestyle modification, can actually be medication-free 03:13 within a short period of time... 03:15 We're talking less than a month, 03:17 and actually have normal blood sugars providing 03:21 they stick with the program. 03:23 Is this those that take just oral medications, 03:26 or is it those that are also on injections, or insulin shots? 03:29 If we look at people who are taking both oral hypoglycemics 03:32 and also insulin... put them all together, 03:36 our average is above 35%, 03:39 can be OFF of their medication in just 3 weeks. 03:42 Above 35%... That's right. 03:43 And if we're looking at people who are insulin-resistant, 03:46 and just borderline, getting to the point where they 03:48 need medication, more than three-fourths of those 03:51 people can actually AVOID developing 03:54 type 2 diabetes. Very good news! 03:56 I heard recently in the news that they are doing some 03:59 new treatments where they're actually implanting cells 04:02 within the pancreas that now are producing insulin. 04:05 Right, and I certainly applaud these efforts. 04:08 Our program is not alternative medicine... to say... 04:12 We like to think of it more of complementary medicine. 04:14 Now, those terms are kind of getting blended together. 04:17 Our program is physician-monitored. 04:19 It's university professor affiliated. 04:23 Our patients who come in undergo a complete evaluation, 04:27 blood work, etcetera, and the physicians that work with them 04:31 that changed their lifestyle, 04:33 most physicians know that if a patient 04:38 changes their lifestyle, they're going to be less 04:39 dependent on medication... 04:41 But is it SAFE to take them off their medication? 04:44 And the answer is... Probably not, unless the patient 04:47 is really going to make a change. 04:49 So what we do at Weimar is we give a person 04:52 and 18-day lifestyle change. 04:55 We show them how to eat different, 04:57 how to exercise better, and all the 8 components of 05:01 the NEWSTART lifestyle. 05:03 So, how does that work in the real world... 05:04 I mean, you take someone away... 05:05 you kind of rapture them away to this place, 05:07 in and it's beautiful, and I'm sure that Weimar has probably 05:10 beautiful, nice vistas around, 05:13 and there's room service, or there's this and that... 05:17 What do you do when they leave that place? 05:18 Our greatest challenge is alumni follow-up. 05:20 We have about 3,000 alumni now, and following them 05:24 and getting them to stay with the program... 05:26 is our greatest challenge, and not long ago, 05:30 the "Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine" 05:33 out of Washington, DC, ranked various lifestyle centers 05:38 for long-term success, and weight loss. 05:40 You'll see a lot of signs that will say, 05:42 "30 pounds in 30 days"... We don't make those promises. 05:46 What we emphasize is a lifestyle change 05:50 for the rest of your life. 05:52 And that's why one of the reasons we are ranked 05:54 the top 2 in the nation... by this think tank 05:57 in Washington, DC for our long-term results. 05:59 And what exactly do you DO for alumni follow-up? 06:04 Well... One, we have direct mailing. 06:06 We have an alumni coordinator who contacts our alumni. 06:11 Another thing we do... we put together resources 06:13 so our alumni can actually bring NEWSTART into their home, 06:17 and share it with their community. 06:18 This year, we're video-taping all the physician lectures again 06:22 because our last video series is outdated, 06:27 so we're putting together a new video series. 06:29 We also have annual wellness weekends, 06:33 and times when people can come back to Weimar, 06:36 and go through the program in a refresher. 06:38 And so once you're an alumnus, can you come through 06:41 free the second time, or at a reduced cost? 06:43 We do make special deals. 06:45 I notice, also, that you have a website for the 06:48 NEWSTART Program... www. newstart. ws 06:52 Is that an alumni-type thing too? 06:55 Can they go there, and then get updates on that webpage? 06:58 Right... Our website updates on the dates of our 07:02 upcoming programs, educational resources that are available. 07:06 This year, we produced a dynamic CD-ROM 07:10 on how people get sick... 07:12 How heart disease, or I should say, coronary artery disease 07:15 and diabetes not only can be prevented but reversed 07:19 with cartoon animation, etcetera, 07:21 and that CD is now available through our website. 07:25 Wonderful! So there are some resources that they 07:27 go home and say... "This is what I do," 07:29 and they say, "Where did you GO, the planet Zolar?" 07:32 "No, I went to Weimar, and it's #1 of these types of programs 07:36 or in the top 3," and all the different things you've said 07:38 It's all right for them to look at. 07:40 Let me ask you this... We talked a little bit about 07:43 diabetes type 2, and the fact that it was reversible 07:46 in 35% of the cases, or on oral hypoglycemics even more 07:50 than that, but let's talk just for a minute about 07:52 heart disease... I think it kills now, what? 07:54 How many people in America, and what happens 07:57 in the program to heart disease? 07:58 Okay, I had the privilege of working with an 08:02 international heart surgery team as a non-physician 08:05 before training as a physician... 08:07 And I used to look at what was being done after 08:13 the patients underwent heart surgery. 08:16 And, one of the surgeons remarked to me, 08:19 "You know, Richard, probably the best thing we've done for this 08:22 patient was going through this procedure... Sure, 08:25 we fixed those 4 inches of arteries; we've given him 08:29 a new chance on life, but this dramatic procedure 08:32 has MADE this person make up their mind" 08:35 "I'm ready for a change. " 08:37 But the results haven't been out there until 08:40 just a couple of years ago... 08:41 in the "Journal of American Medical Association" 08:44 1998, December issue, the Lifestyle heart trial 08:49 results were published that Dr. Dean Ornish has done 08:52 and he has demonstrated, in a very well-controlled study, 08:56 that coronary artery disease not only can be stopped in its 09:00 progression, but also can be reversed to a certain degree. 09:03 This was a fairly small group of patients, 09:06 but the results were so promising, that now a large 09:10 scale prospective study is under works right now 09:14 being sponsored by the 09:15 "Healthcare Finance Administration" 09:17 One other thing to note though, 09:20 the coronary arteries only opened up about 4.5% 09:25 in the first year... 09:26 The group that was on the vegan diet, 09:30 had less than half the coronary events that the group 09:35 who was following the step 2 American Heart Association 09:38 Program experienced... which has made researchers 09:43 question, should we study this further, 09:45 is there something about a whole plant food diet, 09:48 a low fat diet that really can help reverse heart disease. 09:53 So, they have found, really a difference in the 09:56 reversal rates of those that just... 09:58 Or is there ANY reversal in a 09:59 step 2 diet that you're talking about? 10:03 I guess that would have... What's the difference between 10:05 a step 2 diet and a vegan diet? 10:07 Well, let's take it a little further... 10:10 The vegan diet uses whole plant foods, 10:13 with protected fat... 10:15 And the step 2 diet is more of a percentage of fat. 10:19 And in the NEWSTART Lifestyle Program, our concern is 10:22 that the fat used in the diet is not refined fat, 10:27 which would be subject to oxidation. 10:29 We've been holding to this now for over 20 years 10:32 and there has been a lot of questions as 10:35 whether that's a valid position. 10:37 Just this year, some notable cardiologists are coming out 10:42 and saying, "You know, it appears that the immune system 10:47 is key to the repair of coronary artery disease. 10:51 It's not the area of the angiogram that's so narrowed 10:54 that may be the biggest concern... 10:56 But rather, it's the unstable plaque along the walls 11:00 of the coronary arteries. 11:02 And, they have discovered that if you have a more oxidized 11:06 LDL cholesterol, that that actually interferes with the 11:10 immune system in repairing the coronary artery... 11:13 which, when I heard this, I thought to myself, 11:16 "Again the value of whole plant foods" 11:18 because whole plant foods have fat in it 11:22 which is protected from oxidation. 11:25 That may sound like a big theory, but more and more 11:29 evidence is out there that the whole plant food diet 11:33 without refined products subject to oxidation 11:37 are better in the treatment or prevention of 11:41 lifestyle diseases. 11:42 So foods as grown, and it doesn't really necessarily 11:45 mean... I remember working on a cardiology unit as well... 11:48 as a nurse, and looking at these different patients, 11:52 as they came back from their little session 11:54 with the cardiologist who would show them... well look 11:57 "This is where it's really narrowed," and really that's 12:00 not where the problem is really... it's those unstable 12:04 areas that are sometimes not as narrow, 12:07 but they cause problem. 12:10 Well the narrow sites are certainly great for discussion. 12:13 Yes they are... Look at your coronary arteries, 12:15 YOU'VE GOT to make a change. 12:17 We can make some emergency plumbing right now 12:19 ...that's important; but right now it is 12:23 important that if you do have heart disease, 12:25 that you be followed by a competent cardiologist. 12:28 We have, on our board of directors, a leading 12:32 board certified cardiologist, we have internists 12:35 on our staff, and we work side-by-side with the specialist 12:40 and look how we can optimize someone's lifestyle 12:44 both WITH and WITHOUT medication. 12:46 You may be watching right now, as we're talking to 12:49 Dr. Richard Nelson, and you're saying, "Look I want more 12:51 information about this program now!" 12:53 I think probably the best place for you to go right now 12:56 ...If I'm wrong correct me, is www. newstart. ws 13:00 All the contact numbers are there if you're on the internet, 13:02 and you may want to go there 13:04 and check out some more information. 13:05 When we come back, I want to talk and ask Dr. Nelson 13:08 some questions, more specifically about what 13:10 NEWSTART really means. 13:12 Of course, it sounds like a new start, but is there more 13:14 to that acronym, and what 13:16 does it mean... when we come back. 13:17 We're glad that you've joined us... 13:19 Join us when we come back! 13:22 Have you found yourself wishing that you could shed a few pounds 13:26 Have you been on a diet for most of your life, 13:28 but not found anything that will really keep the weight off? 13:31 If you've answered "yes" to any of these questions, 13:34 then we have a solution for you that works! 13:36 Dr. Hans Diehl and Dr. Aileen Ludington 13:40 have written a marvelous booklet called... 13:42 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 13:44 and we'd like to send it to you FREE of charge. 13:47 Here's a medically sound approach successfully used 13:49 by thousands who are able to eat more, and lose weight 13:52 permanently without feeling guilty or hungry 13:55 through lifestyle medicine. 13:57 Dr. Diehl and Dr. Ludington have been featured on 3ABN 14:00 and in this booklet, they present a sensible approach 14:04 to eating, nutrition, and lifestyle changes 14:06 that can help you prevent heart disease, 14:08 diabetes, and EVEN cancer. 14:10 Call or write today for your free copy of 14:12 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 14:14 and you could be on your way to a healthier, happier YOU! 14:17 It's absolutely FREE of charge, so call or write today. 14:23 Welcome back! We're glad you've joined us. 14:25 If you've JUST joined us, you're in for a real treat... 14:27 We're talking to Dr. Richard Nelson 14:29 from the Weimar Institute. 14:30 He's the vice president for medical affairs there, 14:33 and we've been talking about not just disease, 14:35 but how to REVERSE the disease. 14:36 There's GOOD NEWS! That's right. 14:38 If you're listening today, and you really want to get 14:40 more information, you may want to just go to a webpage 14:43 www. newstart. ws 14:50 We were talking about what NEWSTART really stands for... 14:54 Help us with what it stands for, but put a few stories 14:57 in there about what really happens when you follow 14:59 the NEWSTART Program. 15:01 Okay, NEWSTART is an acronym. 15:03 We didn't come up with it, it came up from one of our 15:07 patients or participants. 15:09 We were presenting the 8 natural principles of health 15:13 as we know them, and they were 15:15 put into an acronym called NEWSTART. 15:18 The "N" is for nutrition. 15:19 And, our nutritional program, we think of good, 15:23 better and best. Okay, what's good? 15:26 Good may be following a typical American Heart Association 15:29 step 2 diet... for example, you may be using leaner meats 15:35 ...limiting your dairy products 1 or 2 cups of coffee a day, 15:41 and that's the typical HEALTHIER American diet. 15:46 And "better" would be somewhere in-between the best and the good 15:53 And we have to meet people where they're at... 15:56 And where you're at is probably early atherosclerosis. 16:02 Maybe you're developing high blood pressure... 16:03 Maybe you're insulin resistant. 16:05 And now it's time to reevaluate your lifestyle, make a change. 16:10 So that if we were to move to the best diet 16:13 from a physician who believes in creation, 16:16 I know that man wasn't originally designed to run 16:19 on nonplant food. 16:22 And, we do a lot of work in former Soviet Union countries, 16:26 and I notice they have different types of octane there... 16:27 They have this 76 octane, and they have the 16:30 90-something octane. 16:31 And when you're driving the 76 octane, it's going 16:34 ping, ping, ping, ping, ping all the time! 16:35 But you still can get from A to B 16:38 And I think a lot of us Americans are going 16:40 ping, ping, ping... and what happens is 16:42 is over time, we are wearing out our bodies. 16:46 So if we can approximate the best diet, 16:49 and the best diet we describe is whole plant foods eaten whole 16:53 I'm not talking about just piling your table with 16:56 raw fruits and vegetables. 16:57 But when you use a recipe, use the whole plant, 17:01 and then combine it in a tasty way. 17:04 So, do people like the food when they're there, 17:08 or do they just kind of like... "What is this?" 17:11 Recently, we just started another one of our sessions 17:13 at NEWSTART, and I was there for the opening... 17:16 And I was surprised to see the reactions. 17:18 They said, "The food is so good" 17:20 Because we take popular recipes and change them 17:25 in such a way to put in nutritious components 17:28 and we can end up with almost the same variety and taste. 17:32 So, it's high carbohydrates, or is it high proteins, what is it? 17:37 Okay, predominantly complex carbohydrates, 17:40 low protein, low fat, and with a good variety... 17:44 And for some conditions like type 2 diabetes, 17:47 we may change the time that they have fruit, 17:50 and change the way they exercise in combination with the meals. 17:55 So it's a Genesis 1:29 diet, then adding the vegetables in, 18:00 but let me ask this... 18:02 You know, I mentioned high protein diet for a reason... 18:05 because, you know, some people say, 18:06 That IS the WAY you should lose weight, 18:08 and they do say, "You can help your diabetes with that. " 18:11 What do you think about that, and what's the 18:13 NEWSTART philosophy on that? 18:14 Our philosophy is very much contrasting. 18:18 We have found that a high complex carbohydrate diet 18:22 combined with effective exercise, and the other 18:25 components of the NEWSTART Program 18:26 actually can reverse the condition. 18:29 The reason people get short-term results with 18:33 the high protein diet is they're just taking away 18:35 the carbohydrate or sugar load... 18:38 But if you look, for example, a study was done a few years ago 18:41 in "The Lancet" a famous British journal in Africa. 18:44 They looked at 1,300 Africans who had an 80% 18:48 complex carbohydrate diet. 18:50 How many diabetics were found... Not one! 18:54 And so the myth that high complex carbohydrate diets 18:58 don't go along with the treatment of diabetes 19:02 is out the window as far as we're concerned. 19:04 The high protein diet which is so popular today, 19:07 I think we're going to learn a little bit more 19:09 about it as time goes on. 19:10 We know that diabetics, we have to be ESPECIALLY careful about 19:13 their kidneys, and a high protein diet is 19:16 hard on your kidneys. 19:17 So do you have people that come through the NEWSTART Program 19:19 that have tried a high protein diet, and then they 19:21 come back to you... I've had people come and say, 19:23 "Look, I've lost a lot of weight on it, I'd like to see if 19:26 your program is more effective" 19:27 Our program, though, is dependent on following 19:30 all the 8 principles, and that includes 19:32 getting a lot of exercise. 19:33 Some people come up to our program, by the way... 19:35 the "N" is for nutrition; the "E" is for exercise. 19:38 They come up to our program and some of them can only 19:40 walk around our flagpole... 19:42 And by the end of the 18 days, they're walking as much as 19:45 3 to 5 miles a day. 19:47 Wow, that's really miraculous, but there are reasons for it... 19:51 but it would appear to be a miracle. 19:53 What's the "W" for? The "W" is for water, 19:57 and we want to get at least 6 to 8 glasses of water every day 20:00 and when I speak overseas, there's always a danger 20:04 that your translator may make a mistake... 20:06 I had a chieftain come to me in East Malaysia 20:09 and his hand, when I pinched his skin, 20:12 it just stuck up, like this. 20:14 And he said, "I don't like to drink water, I don't like water" 20:17 "And I have headaches, BAD headaches. " 20:20 And just briefly told this chieftain go home and drink 20:23 your 6 to 8 glasses of water a day, and come back and see us. 20:26 And 3 days later, he came, and he said, "This NEWSTART Program 20:30 it just doesn't work. " 20:31 "There's just no way. I've tried and tried. " 20:33 "My headache is gone, but I just can't get the 20:35 68 glasses of water down every day. " 20:38 A lot of our programs, that we depend on translators 20:42 and in the former Soviet Union, a number of new Christians 20:46 who are with our programs, are people who attended our 20:49 NEWSTART Health Expos. 20:52 In just the former Soviet Union alone, we've done about 20:54 65 health expos in different cities. 20:57 So the physical changes seem to lead to spiritual changes. 21:02 Oh, absolutely, especially when 21:03 we see the real point of 3 John 2... 21:08 "Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper 21:11 and be in health, even as your soul prospers. " 21:14 Our Creator wants us to be healthy today. 21:17 He's not commanding us... "Don't' use this, or 21:21 don't use that or I won't love you" 21:23 He's saying, "I love you, and I don't want you to 21:26 experience the same diseases that the pharaohs experienced. " 21:30 The same diseases brought on by refined foods, 21:33 lack of exercise that had been plaguing the human race 21:37 for thousands of years. 21:38 What does the "S" stand for? 21:40 Sunlight! 21:42 And, the sunlight is important for the immune system. 21:45 We need a little bit of direct sunlight on our faces 21:47 every day, and we don't want to get too much. 21:50 Sunlight! So, N-E-W-S-T... What does the "T" stand for? 21:54 The "T" is an old word for temperance or self control. 21:58 Basically is you know it's right for you. 22:01 Eat in moderation... that's what's good for you, 22:04 and avoid things that are harmful. 22:05 Some people say you can eat more, 22:07 and weigh less... Is that true? 22:08 Well if you're eating complex carbohydrates, 22:11 and you're not adding refined foods, 22:14 such as the hibernation fuel of vegetable oil for example 22:18 or the ROCKET fuel of white sugar. 22:23 Take a sugarcane for example... 22:25 How much sugarcane would it take to make 1 candy bar? 22:27 It could be anywhere from 10 to 30 feet? 22:30 How long will it take you to eat 10 to 30 feet of sugarcane? 22:34 You could just chew, and chew, and chew... it doesn't happen. 22:37 But you can eat a candy bar in about a minute. 22:40 And take, for example, what I'm calling hibernation fuel... 22:43 Some of the vegetable oil; it takes about 14 ears of corn 22:47 to make 1 tablespoon of vegetable oil, 22:49 and that's where you can pack on the calories... 22:52 And that's also where you can get a source of oxidized fat 22:57 which, today, is showing to be playing a role 23:01 in adversely affecting the immune system... 23:04 lots of evidence yet to follow. 23:07 What does the "A" stand for? 23:08 Fresh air.. tobacco-free. 23:10 Tobacco in the developing world 23:12 is the #1 preventable cause of death. 23:15 Fortunately, in North America, we've caught on. 23:18 I just came from a Central Asian Republic 23:20 where the president had to undergo bypass surgery, 23:24 and his physician said, "You've GOT to stop smoking. " 23:27 So he came home and he said, "Well, in that case, 23:31 if it's not good for me, I'll write a decree" 23:34 And he made a decree, no smoking in public or in any restaurant, 23:38 or place of entertainment. 23:40 He didn't want to be reminded of it. 23:41 That's right, and he happened to get a hold of a 23:45 NEWSTART book, and was witnessed to raising it above 23:48 his head and saying, "This is our future ministry of health" 23:51 Is that right? And so, the NEWSTART lifestyle 23:54 in a public form of something called "Health Expo" 23:57 has been taken around the world, and, as I mentioned, 24:00 over 200 cities in some 30 countries 24:03 where we are showing people that they can make 24:06 changes in their homes. 24:07 And I believe that, you know, that's another component here; 24:10 we're talking about the NEWSTART 24:11 We want to finish that up in just a minute, 24:12 but you mentioned "Health Expo" 24:14 I think there's another webpage for people that are interested 24:16 in that... maybe they're watching the program 24:18 somewhere else around the world 24:19 and they want to be involved in that. 24:22 I think that's www. healthexpo. org 24:25 is that right? That's right, and on the 24:27 Health Expo website, you can learn about how you can 24:30 participate in some form of NEWSTART Health Expo 24:34 evangelism or community support. 24:37 That includes wellness weekends and health expos, 24:41 and other followup seminars. 24:44 So, a good way to get good things happening 24:47 wherever you might be... what was it, 233 countries 24:52 Actually 217 cities in 30 countries... 24:55 30 countries... Okay! Well I was even more optimistic. 24:57 But we hope that that happens. 24:58 And what we do is, we'll put together 25:00 health expo panels in any language, culture-specific, 25:04 develop them for that country and then deliver them, 25:07 and then work with those individuals, and the power 25:12 of the health message can never be underestimated. 25:17 Nutrition, Exercise, Water, Sunlight, Temperance, 25:21 Fresh Air... and then the final 2... 25:24 The "R" is for rest, and "T" for trust in God. 25:27 And "R" is one of the toughest areas 25:30 I've had to deal with because getting enough 25:32 sleep, and also managing stress... 25:35 Managing stress is so important for a 25:37 healthy lifestyle. 25:39 And if you follow a healthy whole plant food diet, 25:42 and exercise, but yet don't have stress under management, 25:45 you WILL have lifestyle-related disease 25:49 in most cases. 25:50 The "T" is for trust in God. 25:52 God has given us the guidelines for a 25:54 healthy lifestyle. 25:55 He wants us to live an abundant and robust life. 25:59 Good health! 26:00 He doesn't wish upon us diabetes, heart disease, 26:03 and high blood pressure, for example... 26:07 And we can show that with a whole plant food diet 26:11 exercise NEWSTART program 76% of men taking 26:15 high blood pressure medication can be off with a 26:17 normal blood pressure, and 50% of women. 26:20 God has given us this as an example for us. 26:25 We can use it... He loves us just the same 26:27 but He doesn't choose in many people to prevent these diseases 26:31 from coming upon us. 26:32 So for the "T" is for trust in God. 26:34 You're a Christian physician, do you pray with your patients? 26:36 Absolutely! 26:37 Do the people there at NEWSTART take advantage 26:40 of that vertical relationship? 26:42 We have people who come from all faiths, 26:44 and no faiths. 26:45 But rarely would we ever have a patient who wouldn't 26:49 want us to pray with them. 26:50 But you're respectful if they don't want you to... 26:51 Absolutely. 26:53 And I have worked in many Moslem, and also atheists 26:57 countries, and we've been respected because of our beliefs 27:01 Thank you for being with us, Dr. Nelson. 27:05 I want to just give the information that people 27:08 may need to get in touch with 27:09 some of the things you've been saying. 27:10 If you're interested in the NEWSTART Program, 27:13 and you want to get in touch with them, 27:14 there's a webpage you can go to right now if you have 27:17 the internet, or access to it. 27:18 It's www. newstart. ws 27:25 That's right... newstart. ws 27:27 And then if you're interested in the program with 27:29 Health Expo maybe here where we are positioned 27:33 right here in North America, 27:35 you can have a weekend, a special weekend, 27:38 or you can have culture-specific weekend around the world 27:41 If you'd like to get in touch with that information, 27:43 the webpage is www. healthexpo. org 27:48 So we hope that you can get in touch with one of 27:50 those 2 things, or contact us here at 3ABN, 27:53 and the information will be here. 27:54 Thanks for joining us, and we hope that 27:56 YOU will have health that lasts for a lifetime! |
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