Health for a Lifetime

You Can Be Vegetarian

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Participants: Don Mackintosh, David DeRose

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00:47 Hello and welcome to "Health for a Lifetime"
00:48 I'm your host Don Mackintosh,
00:50 and today, I'm going to be talking with Dr. David DeRose
00:52 Welcome back doctor!
00:54 Good to be back with you, Don
00:55 Now you work at the Lifestyle Center of America
00:57 in preventive medicine.
00:59 What exactly does that mean?
01:01 Well, you know, most people, Don, when they think of
01:03 preventive medicine, they think of preventing things
01:05 from ever happening in the first place...
01:07 and that really is a part of preventive medicine.
01:09 That's what we call primary prevention...
01:11 preventing a disease process, or condition from ever occurring
01:14 But really, much of what we do
01:16 at the Lifestyle Center of America is secondary prevention
01:20 and tertiary prevention.
01:22 Wow, that sounds like a very important work.
01:24 Yeah, we usually don't tell the public about that...
01:27 but we tell them... we're helping them with
01:29 their disease processes.
01:30 So people come to us with their diabetes, or their heart disease
01:34 ...their high blood pressure, their weight problems,
01:36 their cholesterol problems, their arthritis.
01:38 They come with these conditions and we intervene...
01:42 We work with them on a lifestyle-based program
01:44 trying to deemphasize the need for medications;
01:48 trying to avoid surgery, and use more natural
01:51 lifestyle-based approaches.
01:53 So "lifestyle," what exactly is that?
01:54 Well lifestyle has to do with the things that we choose
01:57 to do on a day-to-day basis.
01:58 It has to do with how we sleep...
02:00 how many hours we sleep.
02:01 It has to do with how we eat.
02:03 It has to do with whether or not we exercise,
02:05 and if we do, what we choose to do.
02:07 It has to do with our social contacts...
02:09 our spirituality.
02:10 Let's talk about eating... you know, I hear a lot about
02:12 vegetarian diets, and there's
02:15 a lot of benefits we hear about that.
02:18 Do you have to be a total vegetarian to
02:20 get the maximum benefits?
02:22 Well, it's an interesting question
02:25 the way you ask it, Don.
02:26 Let me tell it to you this way, first.
02:28 The more we move in the direction of a plant-based diet,
02:31 the more we get a number of benefits;
02:33 when it comes to heart disease,
02:35 when it comes to cholesterol reduction,
02:37 cancer prevention...
02:39 But you don't have to be a TOTAL
02:40 vegetarian to get some benefit.
02:42 In other words, someone who starts decreasing their meat
02:45 and eating more fruits and vegetables,
02:47 is going to benefit themselves in terms of decreasing their
02:50 risk of a host of killer diseases.
02:52 A recent study in Iowa, looking at women's health...
02:55 They found that women who were eating more whole grains,
02:58 for example, were decreasing their risks... substantially
03:02 of developing diabetes in a short a time as
03:05 5 years down the road.
03:06 So using more whole grains like whole wheat,
03:09 and whole oats, instead of, maybe, so much
03:12 meat and fat, butter, cheese...
03:15 These women are benefiting their health.
03:17 But the more we move in that direction of eating more
03:20 plant foods, the more it seems, we benefit.
03:22 Classic case in point is with prostate cancer...
03:25 in the famous Adventist Health Study.
03:27 They looked at men and their eating habits
03:30 in terms of things like meat, things like milk,
03:33 things like eggs, things like cheese.
03:35 They looked at each of those categories,
03:37 and the more of those animal products they ate,
03:40 the higher the risk of death from prostate cancer.
03:44 So it does really matter...
03:45 and even small changes can make a big difference.
03:48 That's the message I try to give people.
03:50 They don't have to be overwhelmed by the
03:52 thought of being a total vegetarian.
03:54 Move in that direction, and you're going
03:56 to experience benefits.
03:57 Should anyone NOT be a vegetarian?
04:00 Should anyone NOT be a vegetarian...
04:01 In other words, should everyone
04:03 BE a vegetarian... another way to say that.
04:05 Well, Don, I like people to know... when I work with
04:08 them as my patients, when I speak publically,
04:10 when we're doing this program together...
04:12 I don't want people to feel
04:13 like they've got to be a vegetarian.
04:16 That is not the BIG message in health.
04:18 The message that I try to give is... Yes,
04:21 the research is pointing to the vegetarian diet
04:24 as being the optimal diet... The best diet.
04:26 But if a person feels that they can't embrace that diet
04:29 for whatever reasons...
04:31 If they feel socially; if they
04:33 feel physically there's problems with it...
04:35 If they feel income-wise...
04:36 Now, it's interesting, Don, the income issue...
04:39 Because most people find that when they adopt a
04:41 vegetarian diet, they save a lot of money.
04:43 But whatever the barriers are, you don't have to
04:46 look at this huge MOUNTAIN and say...
04:48 "I can't climb the mountain"
04:49 "I can't be a total vegetarian"
04:50 ...Start moving in that direction, add more fruits.
04:53 Add more vegetables. Add more whole grains.
04:55 Add the beans and the nuts!
04:57 All of these things have been demonstrated
04:59 to make a difference as far as our health.
05:01 Well let's say... I really like my milk,
05:03 I really like my eggs, I really like my cheese,
05:05 and I like a little bit of my meat too...
05:08 You know, let's say I just
05:10 REALLY don't want to give those things up.
05:12 What do you say to patients like that,
05:13 that come to the Lifestyle Center of America?
05:15 Don... NOBODY likes to change.
05:18 NONE OF US DO!
05:19 We're comfortable with the way we live.
05:22 But the beauty of lifestyle change is the way
05:26 the Creator made us.
05:27 God created us with the ability to choose
05:32 what we will enjoy, and when we realize that
05:35 and we realize that I can develop new tastes,
05:37 new enjoyments, I can look at changing lifestyle
05:41 as an adventure rather than a burden.
05:44 I gotta tell you about a patient who came to the
05:47 Lifestyle Center of America... "Larry Martin"
05:49 Now Larry is a high-powered engineer.
05:53 He's literally a rocket scientist.
05:55 From NASA... or something like that.
05:57 You got the idea.
05:58 And Larry came to us from Texas, and he had drawn some
06:02 lines before he came.
06:04 He was a man who liked his meat.
06:06 He wasn't really open to change,
06:08 but he was willing to come to the Lifestyle Center of America
06:11 where we serve a total vegetarian diet,
06:14 and some dramatic things happen.
06:16 We've got a clip of Larry sharing himself
06:19 with what happened during that time...
06:20 Probably nothing more eloquent than listening to Larry himself
06:23 Let's join Larry...
06:28 Ha, ha, ha, ha... YES... that was probably
06:33 the biggest surprise I had here...
06:35 other than all the staff and the apparent care and interest
06:41 that they had.
06:43 I don't guess I'd ever had a meal in my life
06:47 that didn't have at least one type of meat on it.
06:51 And, on the literature you sent me before I came down,
06:59 you had this nice little quiet phrase buried in all of that
07:03 that said, "You'll get to enjoy 3 wonderful
07:06 vegetarian meals a day. "
07:09 And I knew that someone had lost their mind.
07:16 It just... That wasn't going to be!
07:19 But then I convinced myself that I could put up with it
07:26 for a while... being an engineer and all that type of thing,
07:29 I knew I could make that happen.
07:33 So I got in my truck and started up here.
07:36 But long about "Ardmore," I'd run into a
07:40 significant moment of weakness,
07:43 and I pulled into a grocery store there,
07:47 and I bought $93-worth of prepared meats
07:50 and hid it in my luggage.
07:52 All the jerky they had... things like that,
07:57 because I knew darn good and well,
07:58 I wasn't going to last 19 days with no meat.
08:02 Got up here and I quickly hid it in the chest,
08:06 and covered it up with all my clothes and all that,
08:09 but I knew exactly... I had it laid out where I knew
08:12 all the different things I had, and I was visualizing
08:15 how great they were going to be to go with this
08:17 bunch of vegetables you guys were going to try to feed me.
08:20 Surprisingly enough, as you are well aware,
08:23 I gave that entire stock, totally unopened,
08:28 to my doctor when I left here because I never missed it.
08:32 I loved the food... It was fantastic!
08:38 That's an amazing story!
08:42 Hides the jerky... ha, ha, ha
08:45 Yeah... He had all this contraband meat
08:47 in our vegetarian institution.
08:48 So what happened?
08:50 Did he bring it down to a program and CONFESS?
08:52 That's what he did... at the graduation,
08:55 He said, "Look it, I never needed this stuff. "
08:58 And he gave it all to the physician who was caring for him
09:02 The thing that it illustrates, Don, is here was someone
09:06 who was a dyed-in-the-wool meat-eater...
09:08 He could not imagine life as a vegetarian
09:12 but he made a critical decision.
09:15 He was actually going to try a vegetarian lifestyle for a while
09:19 Now if you heard him talking,
09:20 that wasn't really why he came to us.
09:22 He came to us because he had other health problems
09:24 but he was kind of hedging his bets...
09:28 He didn't burn all his bridges, but he was willing to
09:30 try a vegetarian diet though.
09:33 And once the guy starts eating it,
09:35 he says, "this is really palatable"
09:38 This is a good diet!
09:39 And I want to give a message to people, Don...
09:42 If they feel like they've tried vegetarian foods,
09:45 and it doesn't taste good,
09:46 they've been eating the wrong foods!
09:48 They haven't been eating foods from the right chef.
09:50 Now, I'm exaggerating a little bit...
09:53 Because it does take a while for our tastes to change.
09:57 But the point is, if we make a change and stick with it...
10:00 Larry did it for 19 days...
10:02 Let me ask you this question, speaking about choice...
10:05 It's all well and good... we hear Larry,
10:07 and it's quite amusing, and yet he made a choice.
10:11 Is there any scientific data that goes along with our
10:14 ability to make a choice?
10:15 Have scientists found out that we can, indeed,
10:18 make choices and actually change?
10:20 Oh, I mean, this is very clear when it comes to
10:22 dietary practices; study after study,
10:25 I mean a classic study has to do with salt.
10:27 When people dramatically decrease their salt consumption,
10:30 the food, at first, tastes bland!
10:32 People could say, "Well, am I going to live the
10:34 rest of my life enjoying this bland food?"
10:37 Is it worth it for my blood pressure, my fluid build up,
10:40 or my congestive heart failure?"
10:41 Whatever reason they decreased the salt...
10:44 At first, the food tastes terrible!
10:46 But when they stick with it, they develop new enjoyment.
10:50 They start to enjoy the low sodium foods...
10:53 And when you give them that choice morsel
10:56 that they had saved from a year ago,
10:57 that high salt menu item...
10:59 it's distasteful... They don't like it.
11:02 The same has been shown with fat.
11:04 A classic pilot study...
11:07 "The Women's Intervention Nutrition Study"
11:09 A study looking at decreasing fat consumption in women
11:12 that have had breast cancer.
11:14 In the pilot research, in the preliminary research
11:17 to this big study, they actually had women decrease
11:19 their fat consumption.
11:21 Those that decreased their fat consumption
11:23 NOT ONLY... NOT ONLY did you see changes
11:27 in different measurements; their weight,
11:30 their blood fats, and things, but importantly
11:33 from the standpoint of our discussion,
11:36 their tastes changed.
11:38 They developed a distaste for the high fat foods
11:41 they used to enjoy.
11:42 That was true for the majority of those women.
11:45 So, you know, scientists studied this...
11:46 Have they ever gotten nervous...
11:48 that as they do this study, people won't make the
11:50 right choices, and they'll lose all their research money?
11:52 Have they ever done a study that says...
11:54 "Hey! Can these people really change, because I'm
11:56 researching this, and I really want to know whether or not"
11:59 This is a big issue; that's why they do pilot studies.
12:02 Can people change and stick with it...
12:04 And they find in this kind of research
12:05 that people, especially when they get benefits from
12:08 their lifestyle change, they stick with these things.
12:11 The tastes change, PLUS they get the benefits
12:15 of a new way of living.
12:16 Well then, why is it that every time I...
12:18 well, not myself personally,
12:20 but I hear people... They come through our
12:22 health program, and they come through yours,
12:23 and many times, they'll say things like...
12:25 "Well, I went to my doctor, and my doctor says,
12:28 "This is what you really should do, but I don't think anybody
12:30 can make that change. "
12:31 Why do doctors say that?
12:32 Why do other people say that?
12:34 Well I tell you, I believe it's unfortunate, Don.
12:37 And the reason it's unfortunate is most doctors have not had
12:41 the experience of making dramatic lifestyle changes.
12:44 Now, I have a unique advantage because I was not
12:46 raised a vegetarian; I was raised on a pretty typical
12:50 American lifestyle, and I don't blame my parents for that.
12:53 And some people think I had better habits than others
12:57 when they hear that I ate a regular breakfast.
12:59 But my regular breakfast, when I arrived in high school,
13:04 was going to the vending machines,
13:06 and having a Coke and a candy bar.
13:08 That was my routine, and I would frequent the
13:11 fast-food restaurants, but I've changed my lifestyle...
13:14 And you know what?
13:15 The quality of my life is better...
13:17 I enjoy my new way of eating better.
13:19 I don't have a lot of stomach problems that I used to have.
13:22 And so, when I talk with patients, Don, about
13:25 lifestyle change, it's not just based on the medical research,
13:29 it's based on my own experience.
13:31 And I've made dramatic changes...
13:32 Yeah, it's difficult to make the changes at first,
13:35 but over the long haul, once you've done it,
13:38 you wouldn't have it any other way.
13:39 Still have an occasional candy bar?
13:41 You know what?
13:43 I have not had a candy bar in
13:45 probably 20 years... Now I have had...
13:49 20 YEARS? How do you do this?
13:51 Because I've developed new tastes.
13:53 I don't want a candy bar. Okay, great!
13:55 I was in an awkward situation once...
13:58 where I felt socially constrained to accept a...
14:02 I'll tell you the story.
14:03 I was in kind of an informal singing group
14:07 and we'd sing for shut-ins.
14:09 It was kind of a captive audience, you'd say...
14:12 For those that can't get out of their home...
14:14 Right, right, and so we'd go in, and we went to a new home
14:18 one day; we were singing for them.
14:20 Apparently the people that were caring for those who
14:23 couldn't get out of the house... were so touched
14:25 that they slipped off into the kitchen, unbeknownst to us,
14:28 and all of the sudden, they appear with a big tray
14:30 with individual paper plates with cookies and ice cream.
14:35 Now, at this point, I was several years into
14:37 a new lifestyle, even though every NIGHT,
14:41 some years before, I'd have things like
14:43 cookies and ice cream...
14:44 Now, I didn't want cookies and ice cream.
14:47 Now the fellow next to me...
14:48 I looked at him, and he had a real good strategy.
14:50 He slipped the cookies into his pocket... NICE!
14:54 But it doesn't work for ice cream, Don.
14:58 That could be a problem.
14:59 So I said, I know what I'm going to do,
15:01 I'm going to just kind of play with the ice cream
15:03 a little bit; I really didn't want to eat it...
15:04 and eat a little bit of it, I didn't want to offend
15:08 the people... I thought it was important
15:10 socially, to do this, accept their hospitality.
15:13 And so as I'm eating a little bit of this ice cream,
15:16 it tastes sickeningly sweet, and fat;
15:20 and I'm thinking to myself... I'm literally kind of feeling
15:23 sick... I mean I didn't actually GET sick, but
15:26 I said, "I used to eat this food ALL THE TIME!"
15:30 "I used to ENJOY it!"
15:31 "But now it is distasteful. "
15:33 And when you make a clean break with things, Don,
15:35 that's what tends to happen.
15:37 So I don't miss the ice cream, the cookies,
15:39 and I ENJOY the lifestyle I'm following.
15:41 So the only thing you might need is
15:42 ziplock bags inside your suit coats in case
15:45 this happens again, right?
15:46 You know, I haven't gone that far yet, but it's a good idea.
15:49 We're talking with Dr. David DeRose
15:51 We're talking about the fact that you CAN, in fact, change!
15:54 God has given you the power of choice.
15:56 When we come back, we want to talk more about
15:58 how we can cook so that we can ENJOY the food.
16:01 Larry threw away his whole stash, and maybe you can too!
16:04 Join us when we come back.
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17:09 Welcome back, we've been talking with Dr. David DeRose
17:11 We've been talking about the fact that you can change
17:14 and what you should change to if you want to be healthy.
17:16 We've been talking about being a vegetarian,
17:19 and you said, "Hey, not everybody has to be one,
17:21 but to the extent that you can be one,
17:23 you're going to be healthy" Isn't that right?
17:25 It's true, and the other point we're making is
17:28 many people think they CAN'T make dramatic changes.
17:31 Like Larry... because they've never tried.
17:33 The difference between Larry is he was willing to go into
17:36 a situation where he had to make some changes.
17:39 If you just joined us, Larry came to the
17:43 Lifestyle Center of America, and before he got there...
17:45 He said, "Look, I've got to stock up on some meat,
17:48 and some different things, because I...
17:50 there is this silent phrase there that
17:52 we're going to have vegetarian meals"
17:54 ...And then later on, he confessed this to everybody
17:57 and had given UP the MEAT! Amazing!
17:59 He never ate the meat the whole 19 days.
18:01 And so there is the ability to change,
18:04 and people can make that choice.
18:05 But I really want to hear what you have to say about this...
18:09 And I think you're going to show us some footage of this
18:11 I think it's really important when someone is making
18:14 that transition that the food that they're now experiencing
18:17 is GOOD food! Do you think that's important?
18:19 You know, you're right... the food has got to taste good
18:21 but the OTHER thing is...
18:23 I mean, it was not just enough for Larry, or anyone
18:26 who goes through our program
18:27 at the Lifestyle Center of America...
18:28 to see that the food tastes good...
18:31 We're in rural Oklahoma, yes, we have a great program,
18:36 people come from all over the country, and outside the country
18:38 But let's face it, it's a long commute from New York City,
18:42 where we've had patients come, and from Southern California
18:45 to come to Oklahoma.
18:48 So, people have to be convinced, not only that vegetarian meals
18:53 can taste good, but that they're accessible to them in their home
18:57 That they can either prepare these things,
18:59 that they can somehow take advantage of a
19:02 vegetarian diet in their own environment,
19:05 and that's why we have cooking classes.
19:07 It's not unique to our program here on 3ABN.
19:10 There are programs that help
19:11 educate people on cooking... This is vital!
19:14 Don, at your church, in the CHIP program,
19:15 you teach people how to cook. It's a BIG thing.
19:19 And so, what I want to introduce our viewers to is
19:22 Gardenia Montalvo...
19:24 Gardenia came to us in dire physical straits,
19:28 and one of the things that changed her perspective
19:31 was seeing that a vegetarian diet was accessible...
19:34 It was something she could do.
19:35 Not the WHAT but the HOW. That's right
19:37 That's what she learned.
19:39 Well let's look at that...
19:41 The cooking classes are incredibly fun
19:44 because first, you get a demonstration
19:48 by 2 professionals trained in cooking,
19:52 and then you go hands-on to the stations,
19:55 and you make a couple of dishes and it's so enjoyable.
19:59 And, you learn to work with soy-based products,
20:03 and make delicious food which I thought was impossible...
20:07 Like I didn't miss, at the Thanksgiving table, ANTHING!
20:11 I thought it was like having a totally normal
20:14 thanksgiving dinner, and there was only plant foods there
20:17 on the table, and everything was delicious.
20:21 That's great, and now she's saying...
20:23 "Maybe I know how to do this; I know what I'm doing"
20:27 The cooking classes we do at the Lifestyle Center of America
20:29 are different than some cooking programs.
20:31 They're actually hands-on.
20:33 I think it would help our viewers, Don,
20:35 if I showed you some footage of our cooking classes
20:39 and just explain a little bit of how we do things there.
20:42 Good! Great! Let's look at that,
20:43 and why don't you just talk me through it,
20:45 walk me through it as we're watching.
20:46 I'll do that. All right!
20:48 So right here, this is the situation we have,
20:51 what's going on here?
20:53 What you see... we've actually got 6 different stations
20:55 We're focused in on 2 of the stations... now on one here.
20:59 And these are guests that are preparing food?
21:00 These are guests... people with various health concerns
21:03 Some just wanting to prevent disease,
21:05 but many with things like diabetes, heart disease,
21:07 high blood pressure, weight problems...
21:09 And they're learning actually to cook.
21:10 There's our cooking instructor, Jodi Crandall,
21:13 there in the white apron.
21:14 And she's explaining to some of our guests,
21:17 that's what we call our patients...
21:19 how to prepare the meal.
21:20 They've got the recipe there.
21:21 They're cutting the food. They're preparing it.
21:24 And it's astounding to many of them... because they say to us
21:28 "Wow! We're not only learning a better diet,
21:33 but we're actually preparing it ourselves. "
21:35 And not only do they prepare the food, they taste the food.
21:38 They see how they do, and this is shortly before our
21:42 noon meal is served, and they're trying out
21:46 what's actually going to be served then in the dining room.
21:49 They're going to eat the food that they made!
21:51 Oh so this menu goes along with what they're going to
21:53 actually be eating. That's exactly right,
21:55 and, as they are experiencing the diet there at the
21:57 Lifestyle Center of America the first few days,
22:00 I mean it is good. It's good food.
22:01 And the guests do a great job.
22:03 I often joke with them, Don...
22:04 I say, "Boy, if you lose your job, you've got
22:08 another profession to fall back on"
22:10 ...Because they're learning the skill of cooking.
22:12 You know, I think that's so important in our program
22:14 What we try and do is each week,
22:18 they have a day that they prepare everything,
22:20 and they prepare the food.
22:21 And there might be 6 to 10 people around the table,
22:24 and each of them take a different menu item,
22:26 and as they take that menu item, then they come back
22:28 and there are always disasters...
22:30 I mean, especially when I'm involved in cooking.
22:33 But where there are failures, there are also successes,
22:35 and by the end of it, we getting adept.
22:38 So the points we're trying to make here...
22:41 is that people that when they look at their diet,
22:43 and they've been told they need to change,
22:45 or they're reading things and saying they need to make
22:47 changes, I first always try to tell people...
22:50 "Don't be afraid to make dramatic changes"
22:53 "Don't be afraid to make clean breaks with certain things
22:56 if that's what you need to do"
22:57 And it doesn't mean, necessarily being a total vegetarian.
23:01 It may mean making a clean break with red meat.
23:03 Maybe that's what someone needs to do... The initial step
23:05 Yeah, or a clean break with ice cream...
23:07 if that's one of the things that's undermining your health.
23:09 Careful now... I know I can get on some thin ice here.
23:13 It's not a message I'm telling everyone that they've got to
23:15 give up certain foods, but YOU'VE got to identify
23:18 what things are getting in the way of your health goals.
23:21 What you want for you...
23:22 In other words, you know this causes this, or that...
23:24 You know it's going to lead to, so you make the decision
23:26 in light of the scientific facts.
23:29 That's right... and Don, I always try to bring it on
23:31 to a spiritual level.
23:33 Because we've got a God who tells us...
23:36 He's interested in us having abundant life.
23:39 God is willing to direct us in lifestyle.
23:42 Think about the 10 Commandments...
23:44 That's a pattern for lifestyle isn't it?
23:47 In relationships, basically. Exactly
23:51 The interesting thing about the 10 Commandments
23:54 is they talk MOSTLY, for the most part, about clean breaks.
23:59 It doesn't say... It would be a good idea to kill less.
24:02 Right? It doesn't say... Limit adultery.
24:07 It says, "Don't do it. " That's right.
24:09 But we're afraid, as people, to often make those clean breaks
24:13 But there is power in clean breaks
24:15 ESPECIALLY if God has called you to do it.
24:17 And so I tell people, "PRAY,"
24:19 ask God... what He's calling you to do.
24:22 What He wants you to make a clean break from.
24:24 That's right... Does He want you to walk away from the meat.
24:26 Does He want you to walk away from certain sweet foods.
24:29 It doesn't mean you have to be a total vegetarian
24:31 and never touch dessert.
24:33 Now, here's where it really gets interesting.
24:38 Not only does it demand that we
24:41 are willing to make some changes...
24:43 Not only does it demand that we can see the new lifestyles
24:48 accessible... whether it's your cooking class or something else,
24:51 How to do it... How to do it.
24:53 But, you know, the other critical ingredient
24:55 is we need role models.
24:58 That REALLY helps the process.
24:59 I say we need them; it sure makes it a whole lot easier.
25:02 Physicians like yourself, or people,
25:04 Lifestyle Center of America, or...
25:06 Well, I'll tell you, yes.
25:07 Staff is great there.
25:09 People in the community.
25:10 You know, I LOVE the experience of our cooking school instructor
25:14 Jodi Crandall... because Jodi, by her own admission,
25:17 couldn't cook!
25:19 We've got a clip of Jodi talking about her experience.
25:22 This is before she worked with you...
25:24 Before she worked with us.
25:25 Okay, let's join Jodi.
25:29 Being a vegetarian is very exciting.
25:33 It's an adventure for me.
25:34 I used to eat meat until I was about 25-27
25:38 and I actually had just learned to cook when I went away
25:43 to college, so I can relate to a
25:45 lot of the students that don't cook.
25:47 I've never really tried to tell them,
25:48 "If I can cook, so can you. "
25:50 I could burn water in a pan
25:52 and I have learned to cook, and I LOVE it!
25:55 I became a vegetarian when I was going to college
25:58 because it was an adventure.
26:01 I never heard of it before.
26:03 I thought it would be fun to try,
26:04 and it has been a lot of fun.
26:06 I have found so much variety...
26:09 For every meat that you have out there,
26:11 there's got to be at least 7 beans to each one.
26:14 And the grains... people don't really know
26:18 about all the grains that are out there.
26:19 You've got whole wheat, rather than just white flour.
26:22 You've got millet... they think it's JUST for birds.
26:26 But it's actually delicious.
26:30 I like that she's looking at this as an adventure.
26:33 More than just a... "Oh, I had to change"
26:35 "I had to give up this... I had to give up that"
26:37 She LIKES it... it's almost like she's contented
26:40 Is that the secret, contentedness?
26:42 That's one of the secrets, Don.
26:43 You know, when God gives us a program,
26:46 whether it's something we like at first or not...
26:48 Paul said... he'd learned in whatever state he was in,
26:52 to be content.
26:53 At first, that contentment is we're just trusting the Lord
26:57 sometimes because it's difficult at first to develop new habits.
27:00 When we stick with a new way of living,
27:02 the Lord actually changes us.
27:05 It's the way He's made us,
27:07 and so we develop these new enjoyments
27:09 and then we get the benefits from that lifestyle.
27:12 So the message I try to give my patients is
27:14 "Don't hold back from making big changes,
27:17 if that's what God is calling you to do"
27:19 He'll give you the power to make those changes...
27:21 Give you the friends. That's right!
27:22 Look for the support network.
27:24 Look for people who've done it before.
27:26 Look for people who can walk you through it.
27:28 And whether you've got to come to Oklahoma,
27:30 or to your neighborhood church, or your next door neighbor,
27:33 take advantage of those resources that are there.
27:36 Get involved! Have people help you.
27:39 This is what it's about.
27:40 We've been talking with Dr. David DeRose
27:42 It's possible you can make the choices that you need to make.
27:46 God can give you direction in that.
27:48 He can lead you to people that can help you;
27:50 maybe a place like the Lifestyle Center of America,
27:52 or your local church.
27:54 And you can be content with the choices that you've made.
27:57 We hope today's program gives you health that lasts
28:00 for a lifetime!


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