Participants: Don Mackintosh, George Guthrie
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000128
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00:46 Hello and welcome to "Health for a Lifetime"
00:48 I'm your host Don Mackintosh 00:49 We're glad you've joined us today for our program! 00:51 We're going to be talking about diabetes today, 00:54 and maybe you or someone you know has this disease... 00:57 If they do, they'd want to tune in... 00:59 Maybe give them a call right now. 01:01 We're going to be talking with Dr. George Guthrie 01:03 about diabetes. 01:04 Dr. Guthrie is a physician at the Lifestyle Center of America 01:08 in Oklahoma and he has been there for a number of years. 01:12 Before that, he practiced in family practice 01:15 for about 14 years. 01:16 He has also been a university professor; 01:18 talking about public health and nutrition-type things 01:23 in his teaching and we're glad to have him with us! 01:25 Welcome Dr. Guthrie! Thank you, Don 01:27 Today we're going to be talking about a disease 01:29 I guess is impacting millions of Americans, 01:32 and has been escalating in this country 01:35 and around the world - diabetes. 01:37 What is diabetes and what causes it? 01:40 Boy, that's a good question. 01:42 You know, we get confused if we talk about diabetes as 01:46 one disease - there are actually several different 01:49 we call them, "KINDS" of diabetes, 01:51 and in some ways, they are actually opposite diseases. 01:54 Why don't we focus today on type 1 diabetes. 01:57 Great! I mean, we haven't done a program exclusively 02:00 focusing on that, so I know it will be 02:02 really appreciated. 02:03 What is type 1 diabetes? 02:05 To explain what type 1 diabetes is, 02:09 let's first talk about what normal physiology is. 02:14 Stop to think about the way we're created. 02:16 Food is put into the mouth, chewed, goes down the esophagus 02:20 into the stomach - kind of mixed up a bit with enzymes; 02:23 digestion begins. 02:25 Food then goes into the small intestine and is absorbed 02:28 into blood vessels. 02:32 Some of those blood vessels actually go to a small organ 02:35 behind the stomach called the "pancreas" 02:39 There in the pancreas, cells called "beta cells" 02:42 and I'll end up referring them to that again later, 02:45 so might as well lay it right up front - "beta cells" 02:47 whose job it is to respond to the energy coming in 02:51 and say, "There is energy coming" 02:54 The hormone that goes out is called "insulin" 02:58 It goes to the cells of the body throughout the body 03:01 and they, listening for the hormone, 03:05 then open up and say, 03:07 "I guess it's time for the energy to come in 03:09 because the hormone has sent the message. " 03:11 Sometimes call this hormone the "Paul Revere hormone" 03:15 because it's sending out a message. 03:17 And Paul Revere was that guy that said... 03:18 "The British are coming" That's right... 03:20 But insulin is saying, "The ENERGY is coming" 03:23 Okay, and so the insulin goes out and just 03:25 let's everybody know there's help on the way. 03:28 There's energy coming and they open up according 03:31 to their particular need. 03:32 Now, if we want to look at type 1 diabetes, 03:36 there's a problem with this process. 03:39 Sometimes an infection comes into the body, 03:44 usually a viral infection, 03:47 ends up attacking the pancreas... 03:50 the beta cells, the ones that make the insulin... 03:53 The Paul Reveres... No, no 03:55 The horse? These are the cells that... 03:58 ...The cells that actually MAKE the Paul Revere hormone. 04:02 And make them sick. 04:05 The body recognizes that there is an illness there 04:07 and comes out to fight it. 04:09 Instead of just fighting the infection, 04:11 there's some confusion that takes place in the immune system 04:15 and the body begins to fight the beta cells 04:18 and eventually kills them. 04:19 Okay, so it's actually fighting itself, 04:22 and it kills the very things that are needed 04:24 to produce insulin. 04:27 No, there's no insulin, so the cells 04:31 out at the periphery don't get the message. 04:33 There's in essence, a block... 04:36 So is it possible... it's not true then, 04:39 I've heard many times, people say that 04:40 sometimes you're just BORN with type 1 diabetes... 04:43 That's not true then. 04:45 We understand type 1 diabetes as being in the category of 04:51 autoimmune disease, now at least when it starts. 04:54 Where the body gets confused 04:55 about what it should fight and shouldn't fight, 04:58 and actually turns around and fights itself. 05:01 So when a baby is born, 05:03 it's not born with type 1 diabetes then. 05:05 I've never seen one; I've never really heard of one. 05:08 But sometimes people get this very, very YOUNG, 05:12 and you're saying it's caused by an infection. 05:14 Let's say the only thing that the baby has been 05:17 drinking is milk... 05:19 Could someone get type 1 diabetes from its mother's milk? 05:25 There has been an association noted between cow's milk 05:29 and diabetes type 1... 05:31 But I don't know that we could 05:33 say it's actually the CAUSE of the disease, 05:36 because the problem is in the immune system. 05:40 There are 2 parts to the immune system; 05:41 one part of the immune system says... 05:43 "GO GET IT, we've got a problem, 05:45 we've got an infection and we need to take care of it. " 05:47 The other part says, "WAIT A MINUTE - hold on" 05:50 "We don't want to fight quite so hard on that. " 05:52 And if there's an imbalance in that immune system 05:54 so the "go-get-it" gets too strong, 05:57 and overcomes the "No, you better not do it," 05:59 we have the immune system then fighting self. 06:02 So it's a GOOD thing! 06:06 Immune system is a good thing, right? Right! 06:07 But it's just maybe overactive at this point, 06:10 and does almost too good a job, so-to-speak. 06:13 So you brought up the question of milk... 06:16 If a protein of some kind, such as milk, 06:20 gets into the body's immune system 06:22 and begins to confuse the immune system. 06:27 The immune system is a little bit weak; 06:28 sometimes there's an association of proteins or something, 06:31 and it may weaken the immune system enough 06:33 so the body is likely to get confused, 06:35 and I think that's probably the connection between the two, 06:39 although I don't know that it's nailed down for sure. 06:41 So, I mean, this is kind of maybe off the subject, 06:45 and you can tell me if it is, but if someone is in a family 06:48 that is subject to say... allergies or responses, 06:52 do they have to be a little more careful.. would you say? 06:54 You bring up a very good point. 06:56 While diabetes type 1 is not a hereditary disease, 07:03 the weakness of the immune system may be a hereditary thing 07:07 And it's true, we see families that are more likely to HAVE 07:10 autoimmune disease where the immune system gets confused, 07:13 and starts to fight itself. 07:15 Things like diabetes type 1 or rheumatoid arthritis, 07:19 or lupus - these are diseases 07:21 where the immune system is confused... 07:23 And YES, they tend to run in families. 07:25 So you just have to be maybe more cautious 07:27 if that has been running in your family - that type of thing. 07:31 Yes, that's fair, but I'm not sure 07:37 that you can always control it. 07:38 Sometimes things happen we have NO control over, 07:40 and these things just happen. 07:42 So there may be genetic involvement 07:45 but do the best that you can. Right 07:46 Would it be fair to say that the best to do is 07:49 to breastfeed your child if you can? 07:52 We know that people who are breastfed for at least 07:56 one year of life have fewer allergies. 07:59 It tends to strengthen the immune system if 08:01 just breast milk is used. 08:03 People are more likely to have allergies and problems with 08:06 the immune system if they are fed foods other than breast milk 08:12 before 6 months of age, and some might say 12 months. 08:16 What is the big deal about getting diabetes anyway? 08:19 What does it do to your body? 08:21 Ahh... Good question! 08:24 We've got this whole issue of the disease... 08:26 Insulin-the Paul Revere hormone, is necessary to tell the cells 08:31 "the energy is coming" so they can open up 08:34 and let that energy in. 08:35 If that's not there, the cells don't get the energy. 08:39 If they don't get the energy, in essence, they die. 08:43 We call, another name, for this type 1 diabetes is 08:46 insulin-dependent diabetes. 08:49 And it's insulin-dependent because if people don't 08:51 have insulin, they will die generally within 08:54 a few days to a week. 08:57 Is the insulin used in the body; 09:01 is the brain different than the body in that sense? 09:03 Oh okay... there are some tissues in the body 09:07 that don't need insulin to take the sugar in. 09:10 The brain is one of those. 09:11 So that's why you say they die over a number of 09:14 weeks or months or whatever. 09:15 Well, it's actually days to weeks. 09:17 It's a shorter period of time because the muscle cells 09:20 are not getting the energy and death ensues 09:24 in relatively short order. 09:25 So it's a dangerous thing. 09:28 Does it cause any other problems in the body, 09:30 or is there something else we need to know about it 09:32 before we even talk about that? 09:34 If it is untreated, death comes quickly. 09:37 Now maybe another question to ask before we actually 09:40 talk about the problems that diabetes causes in the body is 09:44 ...What's the best way to treat it? 09:46 And I've lectured on this to kids in the 5th and 6th grade. 09:49 Explain the process and you'd simply ask the question... 09:53 "Well what's the best way to treat it?" 09:55 "I'm the patient, you're the doctor" 09:57 we say to the 6th graders... 09:59 "How do you treat it?" 10:00 Well, it's obvious, you give insulin. 10:02 And that's in general what we do. 10:05 A person doesn't have insulin, we give a little bit of insulin 10:09 ...the cells say, "I need that stuff" - they open up 10:11 and the energy goes in and we've solved the problem. 10:15 Now it gets complicated getting the insulin there 10:18 at just the right time. 10:19 You have an interesting graphic about insulin resistance 10:24 and kind of how all this works. 10:26 Let's look at that and explain what we see here. 10:29 Okay, well you could see the food coming into the stomach 10:31 and kind of mixing up by a circuitous route. 10:34 It goes to the blood and it's trying to go to hungry cells 10:38 but without the insulin, of course, 10:41 it won't go into the cells, and so we have cells... 10:45 There's a word on the bottom of the screen there 10:47 that says... "insulin sensitivity" 10:49 These cells will respond QUICKLY to insulin. 10:53 People with other kinds of diabetes often take 10:55 LARGE DOSES of insulin to get the cells to take the insulin, 10:59 but in type 1 diabetes generally 11:01 just a small amount of insulin is needed. 11:04 Okay, so the insulin... what was that called - 11:08 "insulin sensitivity" is heightened with someone 11:10 that has diabetes type 1, 11:13 because they simply don't have any insulin around, 11:14 and when they have it, they say, "Hey, they're here," 11:17 Paul Revere is here... Open up, let me in! 11:19 And that's because they can then get the nutriment 11:23 they need, I guess, in the cell; that's why they're so excited. 11:25 The energy can go in. 11:26 Now you and I, I assume you don't have diabetes 11:30 I don't have diabetes... would generally make about 11:33 30 units of insulin a day. 11:36 A type 1 diabetic, when they are treated for their diabetes, 11:40 really shouldn't need a large dose of insulin. 11:42 It should be somewhere in the range of 20-30 units a day 11:45 because the cells of the body are very sensitive. 11:48 And so that's the treatment then... 11:50 I mean, once you've had that autoimmune system, 11:53 it's knocked out your pancreas, so-to-speak, 11:56 then the only treatment is insulin, 11:59 and that's why they have to get these shots and whatnot. 12:03 And you're saying it needs to be just a small dose. 12:06 Anything else you need to tell us about insulin? 12:08 It can be given in different routes. 12:11 There are a lot of things about the medicine 12:15 and the science of insulin. 12:17 What we used initially was an insulin that lasted about 12:21 3 hours called "regular insulin" 12:24 And if it lasts that long, a type 1 diabetic would 12:28 take this with their meal or just before their meal. 12:30 That would help bring the energy out of the blood 12:33 put it into the cells and then one would expect that 12:35 insulin to wear out after about 3 hours. 12:38 So that's generally what we've used. 12:40 We've also had a longer-acting insulin... variety of insulins; 12:44 insulins that last 6-8 hours, for example; 12:47 the NPH and that would allow you 12:49 to take a shot in the morning and it would be covering 12:52 your noon meal because it generally lasts that long. 12:56 So there is a variety of different insulins... 12:58 the treatment for type 1 diabetes 13:01 is, in essence, to give the insulin. 13:06 When was insulin invented in the sense.. 13:09 I mean, it has always been there but when did they 13:12 get it so you could actually 13:14 inject it... how long has that been around? 13:16 You're right, the Creator designed it, 13:18 and to NOT have it... an enemy has done this 13:22 I think Scripture says, it's a disease process 13:26 ...it's not the way it's supposed to be at all. 13:29 We finally discovered insulin 13:32 in about 1922-23 somewhere along in there, 13:38 and began to use it at that time to help bring 13:41 the blood sugars down. 13:42 And they've just been perfecting 13:44 or further sophisticating that. 13:46 Now let me ask you this... 13:48 It would appear to me that if the Creator designed the body 13:52 to be very responsive to whatever the needs are, you know 13:55 as they come that just when you need insulin, it's there. 13:58 When you don't need it, it's not there. 14:00 Is there a hazard... I mean you say you give a shot, 14:05 and then it's there for all day, 14:07 but is there any cost to the body when the 14:11 pancreas is not working and we 14:13 have to sort of do the shot thing? 14:14 Yeah, we as human beings just 14:16 don't do as well as the Creator does. 14:19 When He designed the pancreas to work, it WAS responsive. 14:22 When we try to GUESS what we're going to need, 14:24 then we run into problems. 14:25 And we have problems, 2 different sets, 14:28 in type 1 diabetes... 14:29 #1- The blood sugar is up too high. 14:31 And the other one, the blood sugars get too low. 14:34 If you gave TOO much insulin and the sugar went TOO low, 14:37 there wouldn't be enough sugar for the brain 14:39 when the blood level gets below 50 mg/dL 14:44 Then, there's not enough for the brain; 14:46 the brain stops working; people stop thinking. 14:49 That's when they pass out. 14:51 Okay, so that's when it's too low. 14:53 What if it's too high? 14:54 Well if it's too high, people's brain tend to get foggy. 14:57 There's something called "glucose toxicity" 15:01 when the blood sugar is over 200. 15:03 ...The body just doesn't work as well. 15:04 Everything works with less efficiency, 15:07 and people often feel a little groggy in the brain. 15:10 Okay, we've talked about what that does to the sensorium 15:12 or the senses of how we feel, 15:15 but what about the cost to the body itself? 15:17 Is it costly to have high sugars versus low sugars 15:20 in the body itself? 15:22 The most DANGEROUS is a low blood sugar 15:23 because that would kill you if 15:25 you didn't get it taken care of. 15:26 But over the long haul, we have problems with 15:29 ELEVATED blood sugars. 15:31 Too much ENERGY, too much sugar in the 15:34 blood vessels over time actually ends up causing 15:37 changes in the small blood vessels. 15:39 I think we have another graphic to kind of talk about this... 15:41 We're going to come back and look at that 15:43 graphic right after the break. 15:44 We're talking with Dr. George Guthrie 15:46 We're talking about type 1 diabetes, 15:48 and there's GOOD NEWS in the second half as well. 15:50 There are new treatments and things about 15:52 type 1 diabetes you simply need to hear, 15:54 so come back after the break. 15:57 Have you found yourself wishing that you could 15:59 shed a few pounds? 16:00 Have you been on a diet for most of your life, 16:02 but not found anything that will really keep the weight off? 16:05 If you've answered "yes" to any of these questions, 16:08 then we have a solution for you that works! 16:11 Dr. Hans Diehl and Dr. Aileen Ludington 16:14 have written a marvelous booklet called... 16:16 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 16:18 and we'd like to send it to you FREE of charge. 16:21 Here's a medically sound approach successfully used 16:24 by thousands who were able 16:25 to eat more and lose weight permanently 16:28 without feeling guilty or hungry through lifestyle medicine. 16:31 Dr. Diehl and Dr. Ludington have been featured on 3ABN 16:35 and in this booklet, they present a sensible approach 16:38 to eating, nutrition and lifestyle changes 16:41 that can help you prevent heart disease, diabetes 16:43 and EVEN cancer. 16:44 Call or write today for your free copy of... 16:47 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 16:48 and you could be on your way to a healthier, happier YOU! 16:52 It's ABSOLUTELY free of charge, so call or write today. 16:57 Welcome back, we've been talking with Dr. George Guthrie 17:00 about type 1 diabetes... 17:02 And we've learned, Dr. Guthrie, that this is an 17:04 autoimmune-type thing where the cells are attacked 17:06 that make insulin. 17:08 It's not something you're just born with, 17:09 it comes as a result of something that was ingested. 17:12 We talked about some different things; 17:14 something that's eaten or... An infection! 17:17 And it's not caused by any particular thing, 17:20 it's just the response of the body. 17:23 And then we've talked about really what the problem is 17:26 with diabetes - when the sugar goes too low, we pass out. 17:28 When it's too high, we also get kind of messed up as well. 17:32 But then we were talking about COST to the body itself 17:34 and we were about ready to look at a graphic. 17:37 So help us look at that graphic and explain to us 17:40 what's happening to the body with diabetes. 17:43 Okay... As the blood sugars go up, 17:46 and they're up over time, they begin to affect the 17:49 small blood vessels in the body. 17:51 If that happens to be in the eyes, 17:53 it, of course, leads to blindness. 17:56 If it happens in the kidneys, it leads to kidney failure. 17:59 If it happens in the nerves, it leads to neuropathy; 18:03 that is that burning-numbness pain that comes in the nerves. 18:07 And, of course, if it bothers the small blood vessels 18:10 in the legs, one might get an infection, 18:12 your body wouldn't be able to fight it-that infection. 18:15 You've probably heard of gangrene leads to amputation! 18:19 So the potential problems from 18:21 not keeping those blood sugars under control are rather serious 18:25 Now you've said that the only treatment for type 1, 18:27 at least at this point, for many years was just having insulin, 18:31 and you said there was even some more new insulins 18:34 that you were going to tell me something about them. 18:37 Our goal in treating type 1 diabetes is to try to 18:40 get the blood sugars as close to normal as possible. 18:43 We know now from some rather large scientific studies 18:45 that if we DO that, we can minimize those complications. 18:48 Maybe even make them go away. 18:50 Certainly put off the problems for years. 18:53 And so, that has led us to try develop new insulins... 18:57 New ways of giving the insulin that more closely reflect 19:01 our physiology. 19:02 We've end up having a very rapid-acting insulin now 19:08 that lasts just like 45 minutes or so. 19:11 You can take it about the time you eat... 19:13 The way you and I function, our pancreas - when we eat, 19:17 the insulin comes out; the energy gets put away, 19:20 and the insulin goes away. 19:22 And then it can be mirrored with these new injections. 19:26 So if you decide to have some kind of a very 19:30 simple carbohydrate, I don't want to pick on any kind of food 19:36 or some kind of candy bar or something, 19:37 then you say, "Okay, I need my shot," you can do that now. 19:40 You can actually cover that for a short period of time. 19:43 Another problem we have is actually having a low grade 19:46 insulin in the background to keep the liver from 19:50 pouring out sugar because insulin lets the liver know 19:54 that energy is around so you don't need to make anymore. 19:58 If the insulin gets low, the liver starts to pour it out. 20:01 And in order to meet THAT need, 20:02 we have an insulin that lasts a LONG time - 36 hours! 20:06 And so, if we have a little bit of that in the background, 20:09 and then we have the real short-acting on top of each meal 20:13 it's much easier now to actually fashion the 20:18 insulin dosage after what normal physiology is. 20:22 Do you have many people come through your 20:24 "Wellspring Diabetes Program" that are type 1 diabetics? 20:26 Not very many. 20:29 Lifestyle is not a real good... Well, it doesn't cure, 20:35 it doesn't reverse type 1 diabetes. 20:37 You see, there's a program with the dead pancreas, 20:38 BUT those people that do come through and move to 20:43 our way of treating type 2 diabetes, 20:45 that is a plant-based diet, 20:47 we find that the blood sugars don't shoot up and down 20:49 as much and they're easier to control; 20:52 certainly it's not curative. 20:53 So it's kind of easier on the system. 20:55 Much easier on the system. 20:57 Well you know, you were sharing with me, as we talked about this 21:00 that there is actually some NEW research 21:03 and there are new things that have been DONE 21:04 that really give HOPE to type 1 diabetics. 21:09 You talked about an "Edmond" approach 21:11 and a "Rossini" approach 21:13 What are these? 21:15 Okay, there is an "Edmond protocol" 21:18 It actually comes out of Canada looking at ways 21:21 to transplant new beta cells into the pancreas. 21:27 You see, if a type 1 diabetic's pancreas 21:30 has all the beta cells dead, 21:32 is there a way we can put new ones in? 21:34 And, in essence, there is a protocol where by which 21:38 the body can actually accept those. 21:41 Unfortunately, it still takes the antirejection drugs 21:44 which can be pretty strong and don't always leave a 21:48 high quality of life, but that is encouraging. 21:51 So that's the Edmond approach. 21:52 They actually open you up then and put those cells in 21:55 or what do they... No, it can actually go... 21:57 It is my understanding... I've never done it, by a catheter. 22:01 These stem cells kind of motivated to be beta cells 22:06 are put into the... and they can set up shop really anywhere. 22:09 Is that right? So they actually put them right in there... 22:13 The problem, the downside though is those immuno... 22:17 those drugs to suppress the immune system. That's right 22:19 Which was the thing that caused 22:21 the problem to begin with, right? 22:22 Right... So it's depressed immune system, 22:24 depressed immune system 22:25 You can get infections. 22:27 You can have all kinds of problems with that. 22:30 Okay, well then what about... 22:31 What was the other guy's name... Rossini? 22:33 Dr. Rossini is from the University of Massachusetts; 22:36 presented in 2003 to the American Diabetic Association 22:41 a lecture, which I was privileged to hear; 22:43 I'm excited about it because he has come up 22:46 with a method which works in mice. 22:49 We haven't got it to humans yet. 22:50 But a method to actually allow 22:53 the transplant of these beta cells 22:55 without needing the immune suppression drugs later on. 23:00 And he's doing this in mice. He's doing this in mice. 23:03 In essence, preparing the body ahead of time. 23:07 You see, when a new protein from outside the body comes in, 23:11 the immune system comes out and looks at it and says, 23:14 "Is this US, or is this not?" 23:16 What it's last name... does it have the right uniform on? 23:22 And the response is actually decided by these macrophages 23:28 who grab onto this protein. What are they called? 23:31 Macrophages. 23:32 Oh, I thought you said "Mackintoshes" 23:33 No... macrophages. 23:35 Macrophages look at this protein and then 23:37 look at it and say, "Well, I'm going to present 23:40 this to the immune system" 23:41 And they hand it over to another immune system cell 23:44 which then will create a response to reject 23:48 the protein that has come in. 23:51 Well, what Dr. Rossini has done is in essence 23:54 developed an antibody against a couple of the connections... 23:58 You know, when the rockets dock, they come together. 24:00 Well, when the immune system comes together, 24:03 there are some docking ports. 24:04 So he BLOCKS those and then actually gives a transfusion of 24:09 some blood from the donning animal 24:13 which has cells in it that say, "Hey, that's okay" 24:17 ...And as they have a chance to build up, 24:18 they start telling the immune system, 24:19 "You don't have to fight that" 24:21 It's okay! It's one of us! 24:23 And then the connection between the 2 is actually 24:26 blocked for the month or 2 24:28 around the infusion of the beta cells, 24:30 and I'm excited because it's working, 24:32 and I suspect that within the next 5 years or so 24:37 we'll probably be seeing it in human beings as well. 24:39 Wow, so let me see if I understand this 24:41 because you said quite a bit right there. 24:43 Let's go back to it again. Okay 24:44 So the "Rossini" approach is kind of like when 24:50 ...I'm just listening; I'm trying to be 24:52 the person that's listening to it today. 24:55 What happens is, he wants to put those cells back 24:58 in the pancreas so they can make insulin again. Sure 25:00 But the problem with doing that is the body always 25:02 attacks them and kills them. Right 25:04 So what he's doing now is, beforehand, 25:09 laying the foundation so they'd be accepted... 25:12 Kind of like disrupting their homeland security system 25:15 of the body. EXACTLY! 25:17 Homeland security is blocked until the message can get 25:21 through the body's government. 25:23 These are "okay guys. " 25:24 Okay, and then once that happens for a certain amount of time, 25:29 and they probably checked the levels and everything, 25:32 then that's when they put the cells in. 25:33 There is actually an injection ahead of time, 25:36 and then at the time that the beta cells go in, 25:39 and then for a couple of weeks thereafter to cover that 25:43 immune system. Excellent! 25:45 Well, in our last couple of minutes, 25:48 we've talked about diabetes type 1; 25:50 we've talked about some pretty hopeful things. 25:54 We've talked about some things that maybe would... 25:57 I want to come back to the beginning again... 25:59 Is there anyway to prevent this type 1 diabetes? 26:03 OH MY! It's an autoimmune disease. 26:07 The best thing we can do for ourselves is to 26:10 stay healthy! 26:11 I think I mentioned already that breastfeeding is 26:14 probably one of the best ways to keep the immune 26:16 system strong and I would say at least for the 26:19 first year of life. 26:21 And then to eat a diet HIGH in the phytochemicals, 26:27 and other things that strengthen the immune system. 26:30 A plant-based diet is, in general, best for that. 26:33 And that gives a person the best chance to avoid it. 26:36 Some people - it's going to happen to... they can't avoid it 26:40 We've been talking with Dr. George Guthrie 26:42 We've been talking about diabetes, 26:44 and we've talked about - not just ALL diabetes, 26:47 but type 1 diabetes. 26:48 We've found that there is hope out there. 26:51 There are some methods right now where there can be 26:54 transplanted beta cells, but there is even hope now 26:57 to be able to diminish the possibility of those being 27:02 rejected. 27:04 In our last couple of seconds, 27:05 we have just a couple of seconds here... 27:06 What spiritual lessons can we 27:08 learn from this whole discussion today? 27:10 Is God FOR us or AGAINST US, doctor? 27:12 God is gracious and I'm glad He has given us minds 27:17 to LEARN and to make CHOICES to help overcome 27:21 the troubles that are around us. 27:23 I see God's wisdom here. 27:25 We've been talking with Dr. George Guthrie 27:27 We've been talking about disease. 27:28 We've been talking about diabetes type 1. 27:30 The GOOD NEWS is we KNOW what it is, 27:33 and the Lord has given us grace to understand that. 27:36 We're glad you've watched today, 27:37 and learned some, hopefully, 27:38 helpful things for you and your journey. 27:40 Maybe you're struggling with disease. 27:42 We hope that today's program has been a blessing for you. 27:47 If you do need more help, don't hesitate to 27:49 give us a call here at 3ABN. 27:50 We'll do whatever we can and we hope that 27:52 as a result of watching this program, 27:54 you'll have health that lasts for a lifetime. |
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