Participants: Don Mackintosh, George Guthrie
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000133
00:46 Hello and welcome to "Health for a Lifetime"
00:48 I'm your host Don Mackintosh 00:50 and today we're going to be talking about a subject 00:53 that really is impacting America and the Western world 00:56 in a large way - that being the problem of weight gain - obesity 01:00 and it's just been skyrocketing 01:02 in this nation and around the world, really. 01:04 Talking with us about this is someone who spends a lot of time 01:08 talking with a lot of people about this, Dr. George Guthrie. 01:11 Dr. Guthrie is a physician from the Lifestyle Center of America 01:14 in Oklahoma and he spends a lot of time in educating people 01:19 that are attempting to - what would you say doctor... 01:22 "gain the victory over the bulge" 01:24 You've been a physician now in private practice about 14 years. 01:29 You've also done a lot of education with medical students 01:32 and have certification in nutrition, 01:36 and a Master's in public health as well. 01:38 There at the Lifestyle Center of America, 01:40 do a lot of the people that come to your program, 01:43 do they struggle with obesity, with overweight? 01:46 It seems that most of them struggle with weight. 01:51 Overweight, obesity - is associated with many other 01:58 significant diseases processes including heart disease, 02:02 hypertension and diabetes. 02:04 Recently, in the news, and looking at trends 02:09 around this nation, around the world, 02:11 there is a real concern that people that are overweight 02:14 are getting younger and younger and younger... 02:17 I would guess overweight people are getting 02:19 older and older but the overweight is 02:21 happening younger and younger! 02:22 That's a better way to say it, that's right! 02:24 Yes, so this problem starts out it seems as though when 02:29 we're younger now in this nation. 02:31 Well let's talk about that today and I know that a lot of 02:34 our viewers will be interested in it. 02:36 Let's talk about weight loss... 02:40 What can you tell me about this? 02:41 I know sometimes you have a little story where you 02:43 build it around a couple of people. 02:45 Let's talk about 2 individuals - All right 02:48 Abe and Bill... All right - Abe and Bill 02:52 Abe and Bill are built about the same. 02:55 They are both large... 02:57 How old are they? Let's say it doesn't matter. 03:00 I mean, aim for 50s, that's fine. 03:02 They're 50% fat and 50% what we call "lean body mass" 03:10 They both are? They both are... Okay 03:13 Lean body mass is, in essence, the stuff that's not fat. 03:18 So we have... they are really overweight - well obese! 03:24 They both need to go lose some weight... 03:27 I was going to say - on a diet, 03:28 but they both need to lose weight. 03:30 Abe decides to lose weight with a crash diet. 03:34 Now, you've probably heard of crash diets. 03:36 There are all kinds of them out there from grapefruit to... 03:39 I mean, it just goes on and on. 03:41 Very low calorie and the weight... 03:45 Abe wants to lose weight and he goes on this crash diet, 03:48 and he loses, in one month's time, 03:51 a significant amount of weight, maybe 20 pounds... Pretty good 03:55 Now BILL, on the other hand, 03:57 decides he's going to lose weight but he goes on a 04:03 plant-based diet, regular exercise. 04:06 He doesn't limit the amount of food but he is 04:08 eating actually fewer calories while exercising... 04:14 And he loses over this month's time a total of 7 pounds. 04:19 It doesn't sound like he is doing as well as Abe. 04:24 It doesn't look that way at all. 04:25 Now, if we go back to that graphic for just a minute, 04:28 the same one - you will notice that in the top, 04:31 the light blue, for Abe and Bill 04:35 that's supposed to represent, in essence, their fat mass. 04:38 And you could see, when they start, they both need to lose it 04:40 The dark blue is to represent their lean body mass. 04:44 When Abe went on his crash diet, please notice that there is 04:47 a decrease in his lean body mass; 04:50 whereas Bill, on his plant-based diet, actually has his 04:55 lean body mass staying about the same. 04:58 So the significance of that is... 05:00 The significance is that after the crash diet, 05:04 Abe has lost an equal amount of fat and muscle 05:10 because when you go on a crash diet, 05:13 you tend to lose equal amounts of each. 05:17 There's less muscle in Abe after he has finished his crash diet. 05:24 With less muscle, he's more likely to gain that weight back. 05:28 Okay, so it's kind of false to say... 05:34 Well, I'm going to judge a weight loss program 05:37 on the amount of pounds that is lost, 05:39 it's more what's actually happening. 05:41 EXACTLY! The scales can lie to us. 05:43 What really matters is how much of the fat has been lost. 05:48 Now, when we started, you said they both had 50% fat... 05:51 ...50%, I mean that was a simple number, 05:53 but let me ask you - What is it that defines 05:57 whether or not someone is overweight or obese. 05:58 What's the rough estimate? 06:01 Oh, there's a calculation that we use. 06:03 It's actually called the "body mass index. " 06:06 The weight in kilograms divided by meters squared, 06:10 you're going to get lost, and if it's over 06:13 25, you're overweight. 06:16 If it gets up above 50, you're really in trouble. 06:19 So that's the kind of stuff you could figure out easily. 06:22 Your doctor could do that for you, 06:24 or someone else could do that for you. 06:26 So then this crash diet is not the way to go. 06:31 Would one of these crash diets, would you consider, 06:35 for instance, these high protein diets like 06:38 the Atkins diet or something like that? 06:39 Is that a crash diet? 06:41 I think it is... it induces in the body, 06:44 in essence, a starvation state, 06:45 and, in essence, in the starvation state, 06:48 people tend to lose the muscle as well as the fat. 06:53 Now this is important because muscle burns between 06:56 35 and 50 calories a day just sitting there. 07:00 Whereas FAT burns only 2-3 calories 07:05 per day just sitting there. 07:06 So when you get rid of your lean muscle mass, 07:09 then you're really not doing yourself a favor 07:11 because that's what is really burning out the rest of the fat 07:13 That was burning the calories in the background... 07:15 So what happens is... when people finish their diet, 07:18 you can't continue a diet forever! 07:22 Even the low carb, high protein or high fat diets, 07:25 is not something you maintain for a long time. 07:28 When you go off the diet, there is less muscle there, 07:32 so if you go back to eating the way you were, 07:34 that actually makes you gain weight, 07:36 and you may very well end up as Abe did, 07:39 a month after his diet ended, 07:42 weighing more than he weighed when he started, 07:46 before he went on a diet. 07:47 Okay, so I mean it's obvious to me then that you 07:50 believe the best way to lose 07:52 weight is not one of these crash diets. Right 07:55 I know there's a lot of people interested 07:57 in high protein diets, so do you mind if I 07:59 ask you another question about it right now? 08:01 Go ahead... 08:03 You know, the question I have is... 08:06 Are there other hazards besides this with a high protein diet? 08:09 Okay, let's spend a little time talking about it. 08:14 I think Dr. Atkins' name is the one that comes up 08:17 the most often with this. 08:20 Dr. Atkins recognized that much of the problem with 08:26 weight gain in the country resulted from 08:29 increasing insulin levels. 08:31 Insulin tends to make our body store the energy. 08:33 It tends to make us gain weight. 08:35 Now, insulin is stimulated in the body when we eat sugars - 08:39 carbohydrates. 08:41 These sugars go and they stimulate the insulin 08:44 and that tends to make the weight go up... 08:46 So he thought, what we need to do is lower the insulin levels 08:49 get them really low and then it will be easier to lose weight 08:52 and indeed, it works! 08:54 People who go on the Atkins' diet lose weight. 08:57 He also discovered and it's documented that 09:00 it lowers the cholesterol as well. 09:02 It does work for that because 09:04 it's so tied in with the insulin levels. 09:06 The problem is... you can't live with it forever that way, 09:10 it induces a starvation state. 09:12 Many people feel nauseous and uncomfortable 09:15 when they're on the diet, 09:17 although some people don't have that problem... 09:19 AND on that diet, you have to ignore a plethora 09:23 of scientific information documenting that high meat, 09:27 high fat, animal protein tend to 09:30 increase cancers and heart disease. 09:34 When you look at the original diet in the Bible, 09:35 would it be a low carbohydrate diet, or a high carbohydrate? 09:39 It would be a high carbohydrate diet. 09:41 What I recommend and what we do at Lifestyle Center of America 09:44 is to put people on a diet that lowers the insulin 09:48 but is a high carbohydrate diet. 09:50 Now that almost sounds like an impossibility to some people. 09:54 A high carbohydrate diet... the carbohydrate should 09:56 stimulate the insulin, but if we use foods that let 10:01 the sugar or the energy go in to the blood slowly, 10:05 it doesn't stimulate as much insulin. 10:07 High fiber foods tend to slow that down... 10:10 There are lower insulin levels. 10:12 People are not hungry! 10:14 They tell us, "I've never eaten so much in my life, 10:16 and I'm losing weight. " 10:17 So that would be a much safer way to do it. 10:21 So what are some high carbohydrate foods that are 10:25 positive - maybe they are complex or whatever... 10:27 You know, they are really dense. 10:28 What are some of the things that people should be eating 10:30 if they want to lose weight the GOOD way? 10:32 If we think about the nutritional pyramid, 10:36 that the government has recommended for us, 10:37 that bottom level is, in essence, 10:40 what is sometimes called "complex carbohydrates" 10:43 More than just starches, these should be carbohydrates 10:47 that are mixed in with the food as the way God made it. 10:51 For example - oatmeal or 7- grain cereal, 10:55 or 100% whole wheat bread... 10:57 The foods that have a lot of the fiber and are not 11:00 processed a lot - should make the bottom of the pyramid... 11:03 And of course, when we get to the second level, 11:06 where we start talking about fruits and vegetables, 11:08 better to have fruit, for example, than fruit juice. 11:11 It ends up being processed... the sugar goes in more quickly. 11:16 ...If it's juice, so just keep it as grown if possible. 11:19 Apples instead of apple juice. I like this one... 11:22 The fruit, the whole fruit 11:24 and nothing but the fruit, so help me! 11:27 Okay, and so these are the foods, 11:30 and we actually can eat more of those when we're losing weight. 11:32 Exactly! Exactly! 11:34 And that's how Bill won out... 11:36 You see, when Bill finished his crash diet, 11:39 he may have only lost, not his crash diet, 11:41 his plant-based diet with exercise, 11:44 I mean the lifestyle change - He only lost 7 pounds, 11:48 but he maintained his muscle mass, 11:50 so his fat loss during that time was about the same as Abe's 11:55 Now if Bill continues with that lifestyle, 12:00 he will continue to lose weight, 12:02 and a long, slow, gradual weight loss is a much safer way 12:06 to do it than a rapid weight loss. 12:09 Have you ever struggled with weight? 12:11 I have... yes, when I grew up, I was kind of that 12:14 short, fat kid and always had trouble. 12:18 I remember, Don... I don't even like that word "fat" okay. 12:23 I remember being in a swimming pool once... 12:25 and you know how kids will jump off the diving board, 12:27 up the ladder and back around again? 12:28 I was doing that - I got to the ladder 12:30 about the same time as another kid... 12:32 I was a little bigger, I elbowed him out of the way, 12:35 and as I went up the ladder, the kid shot out at me - 12:38 and a dart went right to my heart. 12:40 He said, "FAT LUMP" 12:43 That's what he called you? That's what he called me! 12:45 Now, this really made me feel bad, you know, 12:47 and I really didn't make it around to the diving board again 12:50 I went to my father and cried - "He called me fat lump" 12:54 So, there's kind of an emotional thing. Sure! 12:57 There's another word that might be better... 12:59 What is it? Do you mind? No 13:00 I like "fluff" FLUFF? Okay 13:03 If he would have called you "fluff lump," 13:04 you would have been okay... NO, I don't think 13:06 that would work! 13:07 So, I sometimes call the stuff by a different word. 13:11 Abe and Bill were both fluffy! 13:14 So you struggled with this through your life, 13:17 and you are kind of sharing your personal testimony today too 13:21 about there is HOPE! 13:23 There IS hope! 13:24 And I have found a way to manage it and keep ahead... 13:27 I'd actually like to get to that 13:29 in the second half of our discussion. 13:31 Great! We're talking with Dr. George Guthrie 13:34 We're talking about overweight. 13:35 We're talking about FLUFF! 13:38 And, when we come back, we're going to be talking about 13:40 practical ways to address the battle of the bulge, if you will 13:44 ...So we hope that you join us when we come back. 13:47 Have you found yourself wishing that 13:48 you could shed a few pounds? 13:50 Have you been on a diet for most of your life, 13:52 but not found anything that will really keep the weight off? 13:55 If you've answered "yes" to any of these questions, 13:58 then we have a solution for you that works! 14:01 Dr. Hans Diehl and Dr. Aileen Ludington 14:04 have written a marvelous booklet called... 14:06 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 14:08 and we'd like to send it to you FREE of charge. 14:11 Here's a medically sound approach successfully used 14:13 by thousands who were able to eat more 14:16 and lose weight permanently without feeling guilty or hungry 14:19 through lifestyle medicine. 14:21 Dr. Diehl and Dr. Ludington have been featured on 3ABN 14:25 and in this booklet, they present a sensible approach 14:28 to eating, nutrition and lifestyle changes 14:30 that can help you prevent heart disease, diabetes, 14:33 and EVEN cancer. 14:34 Call or write today for your free copy of... 14:36 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 14:38 and you could be on your way to a healthier, happier YOU! 14:41 It's ABSOLUTELY free of charge, so call or write today. 14:47 Welcome back, we are talking with Dr. George Guthrie 14:50 of the Lifestyle Center of America. 14:52 Today, we're talking about overweight, obesity. 14:55 We're talking about this huge 14:57 problem many people in America have, 14:58 and we've learned from Dr. Guthrie, 15:00 who spends much time training people, helping people 15:03 with this at the Lifestyle Center of America in Oklahoma. 15:06 We've learned that there is hope, 15:08 there is help for those that are struggling with overweight. 15:12 Let's summarize a little bit... 15:13 Can you summarize what we've learned so far, 15:15 and then let's go forward. 15:17 It's BEST not to lose weight real fast. 15:22 If you lose weight fast with a crash diet, 15:24 you're very likely to lose muscle mass, 15:28 and this leaves you worse off than you were before. 15:31 Don, I don't think we mentioned this in the first half; 15:33 it might be worth mentioning here... 15:35 People often lose a lot of weight, 15:37 and then gain it right back... 15:38 And it's up and down and up and down... a yo-yo 15:41 A yo-yo sort of effect... 15:42 We know, scientifically, that this kind of living 15:46 is actually worse off than if 15:47 you had never lost weight in the first place. 15:50 Why is that? 15:51 Why is that? I don't know that we have 15:53 all the answers for that but I think it's the loss of 15:56 muscle mass. 15:57 We call that, jokingly, the rhythm method of girth control. 16:03 And I like to say, it doesn't work either! 16:06 It doesn't work either, so it really can be damaging. 16:09 Someone once told me that the reason for that is because 16:11 it messes up your metabolism too Sure! 16:14 It's really putting a stress on the body. 16:17 As we were finishing, the last time you were kind of 16:21 sharing a little bit of your personal testimony, 16:23 and struggling with that, 16:25 and you said you didn't like the word "fat" 16:28 I thought about that too in the break... 16:29 I thought, you know, there is another acronym that can be 16:32 used that is positive using F- A-T... and that is 16:35 FAITHFUL, AVAILABLE and TEACHABLE... okay! 16:38 So we want to be faithful, available and teachable 16:42 in this half - we want to learn what you have to teach us. 16:45 Lots of people, when they are dealing with weight, 16:47 and they're dealing with overcoming that, 16:50 they start counting calories and different things... 16:52 There is a place called "Weight Watchers" 16:55 and different types of things 16:56 where they really focus on calories... 16:58 How important really are calories? 17:00 Well, maybe a better question is ... What ARE calories? 17:04 Calories are simply a measure of the amount of energy 17:07 that is in the food. 17:08 So as we eat our food, we take those, in essence, 17:12 that energy and we measure it as calories, 17:15 and our bodies either store it or use it, 17:17 depending on whether we need it, or whether we don't need it. 17:21 If we don't need it, it's more likely, 17:23 of course, to be stored. 17:24 The foundation of weight loss is to decrease the number of 17:30 calories that we're actually taking in. 17:32 So that's the foundation... 17:34 So, are all calories the same? 17:36 Excellent question! 17:40 I've been told that, but I've seen some scientific 17:43 evidence that some calories are actually handled 17:47 differently in our body... 17:48 And you know, our listeners, our viewers, 17:51 may be helped by maybe a perusal of some of the 17:55 principles - why some calories are maybe a little more 17:58 damaging than others as far as the weight is concerned. 18:01 Now, when we talk about all calories being equal, 18:04 I think we have a graphic about this as well. 18:06 You get calories in every kind of food, right? That's right... 18:09 Like fat - tell me a little bit about fat and fat absorption. 18:14 What are the calories there? 18:15 Fat is absorbed differently than carbohydrate. 18:19 Fat goes, of course, down into the stomach; 18:22 it goes to the small intestine and it is absorbed. 18:25 Instead of going to the liver which is Grand Central Station 18:28 for managing food... that's where carbohydrates 18:30 and proteins go - it actually goes up behind the heart 18:34 in something called the lymphatics and dumps into the 18:37 blood just before it enters the heart. 18:40 That's because it's so dangerous... 18:41 You told me before just to go 18:44 to the liver, it might clog it all up. 18:46 These are big globules, they can plug things up, 18:49 so it gets mixed in with the most amount of blood; 18:51 it goes out to the periphery of the body until it gets STUCK 18:55 in a blood vessel out there, 18:57 and then it starts to let the fat go. 19:00 Now, fat calories are not what the body prefers to burn. 19:07 If there are carbohydrate calories around, 19:09 it will take the carbohydrate calories first. 19:12 Carbohydrate sugars and starches, in essence, 19:14 is what we're talking about. 19:16 Those are the calories that the body prefers, 19:18 and it doesn't really go after those fat or fluff calories, 19:22 until it's finished with the carbohydrates. 19:25 It has helped me, as I look at the food I eat, 19:29 to recognize that foods that are high in fat, 19:31 actually take the energy in and store it - 19:34 where I DON'T WANT IT. 19:37 And then when I'm finished with the other food 19:40 that I've eaten for energy, then the body will 19:42 finally go looking for the fat to use as energy. 19:46 And then it does store it... those globules actually get in. 19:50 The globules will be pulled OUT of storage and burned 19:53 when the carbohydrates are gone. 19:55 Well, talk to me then about... so the fat things then 19:57 basically to summarize, those calories are stored 20:01 later and they are the type... wait 20:04 Fat calories are stored FIRST and then pulled out 20:07 only after the other is gone. I see... 20:09 So if you eat carbohydrates, 20:11 especially if they don't stimulate a lot of 20:14 insulin production, as in the high fiber foods that we 20:16 were talking about before, foods as grown, 20:18 those carbohydrates will be used up FIRST, 20:21 and THEN the body will turn to the fat. 20:23 So any fat I use goes into storage FIRST. 20:27 Next thing on our graphic is carbohydrates, 20:30 and then it talks about fructose and glucose. Yes! 20:34 That's a good thing to look at. 20:38 Sugars are carbohydrates, are handled differently 20:42 in our body as well. 20:44 And the reason I know this one is - 20:46 There is an awful lot of, for example, high fructose 20:50 corn syrup used in baking goods. 20:54 You see, fructose is about 1-1/2 times sweeter 20:57 than regular table sugar. 20:59 So the people who are manufacturing the food 21:02 can put in the fructose, get the same amount of sweetness 21:04 and it doesn't cost as much. 21:06 Large amounts of fructose, excess calories, 21:11 the body can turn into fat. 21:13 It's really harder, significantly more difficult 21:16 for the body to turn glucose into fat - 21:18 than it is to turn fructose into fat. 21:21 There are a couple of steps in-between 21:22 that make it difficult. 21:24 So when you look on something and it says "fructose," 21:26 that's something if you are losing weight, 21:27 you probably want to avoid! 21:28 Well certainly, especially when there is a lot of fructose, 21:32 you recognize the name "fructose" it sounds like fruit, 21:36 and, in essence, that's where we found it first - in the fruit... 21:38 And the small amounts that are in fruit are not a problem, 21:41 but when we concentrate it and put it in our bakery goods 21:44 or our sodas, we are actually taking a carbohydrate 21:47 that is much more easily turned into fat for storage. 21:52 Now, interesting studies, at least this is what they 21:55 taught me in my educational program, 21:57 if they put an IV in and give you glucose, 22:01 they might have to give you up to 5,000 calories a day 22:04 to get the body to actually turn that into fat. 22:07 So it's not as easily turned into that... Exactly! 22:12 So again, you say the foundation of weight loss is calories, 22:16 but do you recommend then counting calories, 22:18 or is it just very simple to just again eat foods as grown? 22:22 Counting calories can sure be frustrating, can't it? 22:28 There's a lot of people who don't like to count calories, 22:32 and an easier way to do it is, in essence, move to whole foods, 22:36 foods as grown. 22:38 On the graphic, as well, we noticed 22:41 "glycemic index" What's that? 22:43 Glycemic index has to do with how fast the sugar 22:47 actually goes into the body... 22:49 And it's a measure of the speed; the faster it goes in, 22:54 the more insulin is going to be stimulated. 22:56 Insulin tends to make weight go UP. 22:59 If we can keep the insulin levels down, 23:01 we're less likely to gain weight just from the hormonal milieu. 23:05 So, foods that are LOW in glycemic index, 23:08 put the energy in slower, less insulin, 23:10 less likely to gain weight. 23:12 Well let me guess - oatmeal would be slow, 23:14 white bread would be fast. 23:16 That's pretty good! 23:18 And why is white bread so fast? 23:20 I mean, someone told me that it's more rapidly... 23:23 I mean, it increases that scale faster than almost anything else 23:27 Why IS that? 23:28 Well, it's made of sugars that are attached together. 23:34 If you get it in the wheat, it's ALL packaged 23:37 with fiber around it and it's hard to get apart. 23:39 You kind of have to chew it apart. 23:41 If they refine it and take the fiber off, 23:44 and THEN grind it up and then bake it, 23:49 they've actually gone a significant distance 23:52 towards breaking those things, 23:54 the chains of sugars into simple sugars, 23:58 and they absorb - it's broken down quickly 24:00 from there and makes the blood sugar go up fast. 24:03 So they've chewed your sugar and everything for you basically 24:05 when you get white bread. Exactly, that's right! 24:07 Okay, anything else that we need to know about glycemic index 24:11 Are you suggesting we have a little chart 24:13 that we carry around, or is it just good to take a look at one? 24:15 Well let's just recognize that the principle, 24:19 that the closer you get the food to the way God made it, 24:22 in general, the less processing, the lower the glycemic index, 24:27 and the less likely it will be to make the insulin go up 24:30 and increase your weight. 24:32 What about fiber? 24:34 FIBER! Fiber kind of goes along 24:36 with glycemic index. 24:37 Fiber is a part of food as grown that tends to slow down 24:43 the sugar going into the body. 24:45 This helps to decrease the insulin levels, 24:48 and I suppose I put it in the same category 24:50 as the glycemic index, EXCEPT we can also note that 24:55 fiber has no calories, you see. 24:57 By definition, you put it in here and it comes out there. 25:00 So you can eat all the fiber you 25:02 want and not gain weight with that. 25:04 So fiber foods fill you up without giving you calories. 25:10 Where do you get fiber again? 25:12 What kind of foods? Foods as grown? 25:13 Generally the best place to get it is foods as grown. 25:16 We all know that in our world today, we can buy fiber products 25:20 It makes most sense to me to get it with the food as grown. 25:23 MEAL TIMING... Oh Don, this is one of my favorites! 25:28 If you were getting on an airplane to fly from here 25:32 to Honolulu, would you want to put the 25:34 fuel in the plane here or after you got to Honolulu? 25:36 I'd like to have it here. 25:39 It kind of makes sense, doesn't it? Yes 25:40 If we consider ourselves as airplanes, 25:43 when we come to the day, it's better to put the fuel in 25:47 in the first part of the day rather than the end. 25:50 If you eat a large meal at night 25:52 just before you lay down to sleep, 25:54 it's very likely that your body is going to store that. 25:57 Some interesting studies have been done 26:00 by a Dr. Hallberg where he gave people 2000 calorie diet 26:04 either in the morning or the evening, then had them switch. 26:07 The same meal, given morning or evening... 26:11 If was given in the morning, people lost weight... 26:13 NOT so in the evening. 26:14 So meal timing is important. 26:16 One thing I didn't notice on your list... 26:17 What about exercise and weight loss? 26:19 I mentioned exercise as something that Bill did. 26:24 Exercise burns calories. Exercise builds muscle. 26:28 If you have more muscle, you burn more calories 26:30 while you're sleeping! 26:32 What's the best time to exercise? 26:33 Oh my, I think any exercise is good... 26:37 In the morning would be good. 26:39 In the evening would be good. 26:41 I think just increasing your muscle mass is 26:43 probably the most important thing. 26:45 A lot of people out there have struggled with the crash diets; 26:48 maybe they've even tried a healthy option... 26:49 Maybe they've tried Bill's model instead of the 26:53 crash diet approach but they're struggling... 26:55 What kind of hope can you give them as someone who has 26:58 BEEN there and has helped a lot of people. 27:00 I've helped a lot of people and when we deal with the 27:03 glycemic index and lower the insulin levels, 27:05 increase the exercise in a safe and effective way, 27:09 I haven't seen anybody that hasn't been able to lose weight 27:12 UNLESS they really can't exercise because 27:16 of joint problems. 27:17 So, for most people - those who can get up and move, 27:21 there is a lot of hope. 27:22 We've been talking with Dr. George Guthrie 27:25 He is a physician at the Lifestyle Center of America 27:28 in Oklahoma. 27:29 They have developed many programs there to help people 27:32 at their facility. 27:34 They have also developed programs for 27:35 your local community as well. 27:37 We're glad that he could join us here on 27:38 "Health for a Lifetime" at 3ABN 27:41 And certainly, when we talk about something that is 27:44 affecting so many of us, this is a very practical program 27:49 You can get a copy of this if you call in to 3ABN. 27:51 We hope that today's information 27:53 has been helpful to you, and that as a result 27:55 you'll have Health that Lasts for a Lifetime! |
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