Participants: Tim Arnott, Don Mackintosh
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000139
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00:46 Hello, and welcome to Health For a Lifetime
00:49 I'm your host Don Maclntosh. 00:51 Today we're going to be talking about fire - 00:53 fire in your arteries 00:55 Do you have fire in your arteries? 00:57 If you do, you're going to want to put it out! 00:58 And talking with us about this vital subject today is 01:01 Dr. Tim Arnott. 01:02 He's a physician from the Lifestyle Center of America 01:05 in Oklahoma. 01:06 All day, Doctor, you help people put fire out that's in their 01:08 arteries, don't you? 01:10 That's true, we do. 01:11 What does this really mean? 01:13 Fire in the arteries, what does it mean, 01:15 fire raging in the arteries? 01:16 - Well, inflammation is the word that most people would 01:20 be familiar with and it has to do with the immune system. 01:24 It has to do with the white blood cells. 01:26 Now the truth is that when you have too much cholesterol 01:31 and saturated fat in your diet and that is then put into the 01:36 blood stream and so you have high levels of cholesterol 01:39 in the blood stream, levels that are higher than they should be 01:43 and you're not taking enough of these pigments in the fruits and 01:47 vegetables, you're not getting the antioxidants in the whole 01:50 grains and in the seeds, then this cholesterol can become 01:54 oxidized, or chemically injured or damaged. 01:58 When that happens the cholesterol is actually in a 02:02 state of such toxicity that the white blood cells see it and 02:07 they absorb it, they take it up and they put it into the wall of 02:12 the artery and sequester it there. 02:14 This whole process of getting the immune system involved in 02:19 getting rid of the excess cholesterol leads in many cases 02:24 to an elevation, an inflammation. 02:26 So that's the fire? 02:27 - That's the fire, that's correct. 02:29 It's these chemicals the white blood cells are sending 02:32 to each other that we can actually measure. 02:34 - Now you work at the Lifestyle Center of America 02:37 you're a medical doctor there, you've specialized 02:40 in family practice and there at the Lifestyle Center of America 02:44 you help people all the time know whether or not they have 02:48 fire in their arteries, so to speak, or not, whither 02:50 not they're inflamed or not. 02:52 How can you tell whether or not you have this going on 02:56 in your arteries? 02:57 - Well, actually every patient that comes through 02:59 Lifestyle Center of America actually gets a test 03:02 called a CRP or a C Reactive Protein. 03:06 This is a protein that's put out. 03:09 It's made by the liver right up here under your rib cage. 03:13 That protein is put out in response to an immune system 03:17 a white blood cell army that's mobilized and actively dealing 03:22 with the cholesterol that is accumulating in your artery wall 03:27 and that is accumulating in your blood stream. 03:29 - Ok, I heard about it first just not too long ago. 03:33 So it's actually pretty specific. 03:35 It can tell you what kind of fire and how big it is. 03:38 Absolutely. 03:40 What's exciting about it is that it measures and it actually 03:44 is able to detect low levels of inflammation. 03:48 I mean we have a sed rate test- red blood cell sedimentation 03:52 rate- that can measure more robust and greater levels of 03:56 inflammation in the body, but there's actually a level of 04:00 inflammation that is not high - it's low - and it's found just 04:06 relating to your arteries and that cholesterol material 04:10 that maybe building up there and what the white blood cells are 04:12 doing with it, and that low level of inflammation is very 04:17 important because people that have more of that are at greater 04:21 risk for a coronary event like a heart attack. 04:24 - So this is why it is important to know whither or not my 04:26 arteries are inflamed. 04:28 Absolutely! 04:29 - Because if they're inflamed if that C Reactive Protein... 04:32 and "C" stands for what? 04:35 - I don't know exactly what it stand for, that's just the term 04:39 that's been given, "C" Reactive Protein. 04:42 - It tells me that there's a real problem there, 04:44 if it's elevated, I need to watch out because this can 04:48 really damage my arteries. 04:50 - What they've discovered is individuals can have normal, or 04:53 what's considered by our government as normal LDL, 04:57 or bad cholesterol levels, but if they have a high 05:00 C Reactive Protein level, which means they have a lot of 05:03 inflammation, even though their cholesterol may not be 05:06 that high, they are still at significant risk 05:09 for heart attack or other coronary event. 05:12 So how do we put out the fire? 05:14 Let's say we had our C Reactive Protein... what's the 05:16 normal for that? 05:17 Is it 1, 2, 3, 4, 5? 05:19 - Well, you want to get less than one. 05:20 Ok, less than one. 05:21 Let's say it's greater than one, let's say I have three. 05:24 - Well, if you have a three, that's actually getting you up 05:27 into a higher risk category. 05:29 - Ok, let's say I have that, what do I do 05:30 to put out the fire? 05:32 - Well, one of the things that has been shown, early on, 05:35 a number of years ago, individuals who are eating the 05:38 most fiber, actually have the lowest 05:42 C Reactive Protein levels. 05:45 Now, even more recently, just last year, Dr. Kendall and 05:49 his colleagues at the University of Toronto in Canada, 05:52 show that you can actually significantly lower 05:56 C Reactive Protein. 05:57 In fact you can lower it about as much as one of these 05:59 Stanton Drugs, Lipitor, Zocor, Levacor, by doing the following: 06:04 by taking individuals and putting them on a plant based 06:08 diet and including as part of that plant based diet, 06:13 remember on a earlier program we said you could be vegetarian 06:15 but not necessarily a healthy vegetarian or optimal 06:18 vegetarian, well he tried to make it plant based or 06:20 vegetarian diet that was optimal by making sure they were getting 06:23 some almonds as part of their diet, making sure they were 06:28 getting 25 grams of soy protein, making sure that they were 06:32 getting some of these phyto-sterols, these are 06:36 steroid-like compounds in the plants that can actually help 06:42 block cholesterol uptake out of your intestine into the blood 06:46 stream, sending that cholesterol on out of your body. 06:50 And they were giving that in the form of a margarine. 06:53 So they were giving them so focus foods that have been shown 06:57 to help lower heart disease risk and sure enough they were able 07:00 to lower C Reactive Protein levels and they were able to 07:03 lower total cholesterol levels about the same as a 07:08 Stanton Drug like Zocor. 07:10 - So increased fiber, increase complex carbohydrates or foods 07:15 as grown, that has been shown to put the fire 07:18 out in the arteries? 07:19 Actually that's correct. 07:22 The other thing that it's important for people to 07:24 understand is that there are some fats that are found in 07:28 animal products, the red meats for example, 07:31 the arachidonic acids, it's an Omega 6 fat, and it is a fat 07:37 that can only go one direction once it's inside the body. 07:41 It goes in the direction to make some of these specialized 07:45 chemicals, prostaglandins for example, and it only can make 07:50 prostaglandins that promote inflammation, that promote 07:53 blood clot, that promote arteries constricting, and so 07:57 when you take an animal products you don't give the body a choice 08:01 when you take in meats, for example, you force the body 08:04 to rev up the fire! 08:07 Yes, exactly! 08:08 Now the other thing that can happen, even if you're eating 08:11 plants and you're getting more of the Omega 3 fats 08:15 and you're getting more of the Omega 6 fats, there can be a 08:19 problem if you're getting those Omega 6 fats in the form of corn 08:23 oil, safflower oil, and sunflower oil. 08:26 The reason is they are so rich in Omega 6 that they can get in 08:32 the way of your using properly the Omega 3 fats that are 08:37 found in walnuts and flax seed for example. 08:41 You can actually rev up inflammation that way as well 08:45 because it's the flax seed fat, the Omega 3 in that, 08:49 and the English walnut Omega 3 that can reduce inflammation, 08:55 reduce blood clots. 08:56 - So flax seed is beneficial because it reduces 08:59 the inflammation. 09:00 That's correct. 09:01 - Now you have a couple graphics on this flax seed issue. 09:03 Let's look at that and talk a little bit about it. 09:06 - Dr. Hugh and his colleagues at the Harvard School of 09:08 Public Health, have looked at the intake of 09:11 Alpha-Linolenic Acid. 09:14 - Now see they have a level of one there vs. a level of. 55. 09:18 - That's right, one would be the greatest risk of a heart attack. 09:21 So the long bar means lots of risk of heart attack. 09:25 When you have a short bar, as you can see there, it's about 09:29 half the risk of having a heart attack. 09:31 And then you look over to the side it says, "Highest intake of 09:35 Alpha-Linolenic Acid. 09:37 Well, that is the Omega 3 fat that is concentrated in your 09:40 flax seed, it's concentrated in your English walnuts, and it's 09:44 in your dark green leafy vegetables. 09:47 So individuals in there study that had the highest intake of 09:52 those specialized Omega 3 essential fats found in 09:56 English walnuts, found in flax seed. 09:59 By the way you can get either dark brown or blonde flax seed 10:03 or dark greens, they have the lowest risk of a heart attack. 10:06 - So in other words you may have a salad out of really dark green 10:09 and put some walnuts on top. 10:10 That's exactly right. 10:11 English walnuts. 10:12 - Now interestingly enough, we were talking earlier about how 10:15 you could have a generally not so healthy food product, but 10:20 it's got some benefit in there because it 10:22 comes from the plants. 10:23 In this study, actually they found that individuals were 10:27 getting their Omega 3 fat, Alpha-Linolenic Acid, from 10:31 salad dressing which is made largely from soybean oil. 10:34 Because soybean oil has more of the Omega 3 in it, they were 10:40 actually getting protection from that, but you're going to 10:43 be much better off to eat the soybean. 10:44 - So where would someone get flax seed that wants to use that 10:48 or these different kind of things? 10:50 Can you buy flax seed at the super market down the street? 10:54 - Well, it depends, if you live on the West Coast, if you live 10:59 in the South, if you live on the East Coast, you probably can. 11:02 If you live near the Lifestyle Center of America you're 11:05 probably going to have to go to a health food store or you can 11:09 join a co-op, like we do. 11:11 We have a relationship now with Country Life Foods there in 11:16 Michigan and they send us 5 pounds, 25 pounds of flax seed, 11:20 blonde, brown, you name it. 11:22 - And I understand that you have to grind it up or else you won't 11:26 be able to utilize it. 11:27 - Well, you can utilize if you don't grind it but it will be a 11:29 laxative rather than getting you the essential fats. 11:32 That's absolutely right, you want to freshly grind it. 11:36 A coffee grinder is the perfect tool to grind up those 11:39 flax seeds and you want to take in 2 Tablespoons of the whole 11:45 seeds, not rounded, just flat Tablespoons of the whole seeds 11:50 grind it up and you want to do that every day. 11:52 And that will give you just about as much blood clot 11:56 preventing power as someone who eats fish, 11:59 say 3 times a week, because there are Omega 3 fats 12:03 in fish as well. 12:04 - So there is fire in our arteries. 12:05 That fire comes from inflammation, just to summarize. 12:08 We can figure out whether or not we really are having that 12:11 inflammation by a C Reactive Protein test that your doctor 12:15 can run or you can do there at the Lifestyle Center of America. 12:18 We need to know whither or not we have inflammation because 12:22 if there's a fire in our house we want to put it out. 12:24 And the way to put it out most aptly is to eat foods that are 12:28 high in fiber, foods as grown, and to have flax seed. 12:33 - Flax seeds, English walnuts, and leafy greens and to avoid 12:37 a lot of those processed oils which are so rich in Omega 6 12:41 they can dilute the benefits of your Omega 3 fats. 12:45 - You know there is a lot of discussion about fats and how 12:47 they relate to heart disease and how they relate to the fire 12:50 in the arteries and different things. 12:51 And there's some confusion, frankly, about that and we 12:54 want to talk about that a little more. 12:56 I'm sure you educate people there at the 12:58 Lifestyle Center of America about these different things 13:00 when they come to the program. 13:02 And they see things turning around. 13:04 We're talking with Dr. Tim Arnott. 13:06 He's a physician at the Lifestyle Center of America 13:09 in Oklahoma where they help stop, reverse in some cases, 13:14 or prevent the common killers in America. 13:18 When we come back we're going to talk a little bit more about the 13:21 fire many people have in their arteries and how to put it out. 13:23 We hope you join us. 13:25 Have you found yourself wishing that you could 13:27 shed a few pounds? 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14:47 There are some special tests like C Reactive Protein. 14:51 Dr. Arnott is a specialist in helping people reverse the 14:54 common killers with lifestyle medicine. 14:56 He works at the Lifestyle Center of America in Oklahoma. 14:59 You're a family practice physician but you've 15:01 specialized in this. 15:03 There's programs they do there, 19 day program. 15:06 They also do programs, or developing programs, 15:09 that people can even find in their community's now 15:11 like the Well Spring Program. 15:13 We've talked about how to stop this inflammation. 15:16 We've talked about having the kind of foods we need to have 15:19 high in fiber, and greens, as well as food that is grown. 15:23 We've talked about having flax seed or these other different 15:27 things in our diet. 15:28 I want to talk a little bit more about flax seed. 15:29 You told me in the break about a very fascinating study that 15:33 I think we need to bring out. 15:35 - Dr. Delorgarille and his colleagues actually found 15:40 individuals who had already had a heart attack. 15:42 And they put half of those individuals on what's called a 15:45 heart prudent diet. 15:47 Basically an American Heart Association style diet. 15:51 They put the other half of those individuals who'd already had a 15:55 heart attack on a diet that was rich in Alpha-Linolinic Acid. 15:59 Now this is the essential fat that we can not make, we have 16:02 to eat it, we have to get it from our food, it's made only 16:05 by plants, and it's richly supplied in flax seed, 16:10 English walnuts, and dark leafy greens. 16:13 They followed these individuals for a number of years and what 16:16 they discovered is the individuals who were on this 16:19 diet rich in this Omega 3 fat they had a 70% lower risk 16:25 of dying than the individuals who were on the 16:29 heart prudent diet. 16:31 So this graphic that we're going to look at 16:33 is going to show this? 16:34 Absolutely. 16:35 As you can see on the top line: 16:37 You can see that individuals who are on this usual 16:40 Post-Heart Attack Prudent Diet, Like The Heart Association Diet, 16:44 The Heart Association Diet. 16:46 They had the greatest risk of death after a heart attack 16:49 shown there by the longest bar. But those who are on this diet 16:53 that was rich, high in flax seed, walnuts, high in these 16:57 greens you can see that they had less than a third, 17:01 the risk of dying after their first heart attack, 17:05 70% lower risk, in fact. 17:06 If I would have found out about that, and I was on that 17:09 American Heart Association diet I'd say, "Stop!" 17:12 That's exactly right. 17:13 In fact they had to... this is not a study that you can 17:17 continue when you see this great a difference between 17:20 the two groups, you can not continue ethically. 17:23 It's malpractice. 17:24 Absolutely! 17:25 - That's an essential protective fat, the Omega 3 17:30 fatty acid, is that right? 17:31 - Yes, actually what they have shown is that if you take 17:34 in a good quantity of these essential fats, 17:38 the Omega 3 fats, for example, as we've been saying, again, 17:43 from flax seed, English walnuts, from dark leafy greens, or 17:47 many people would take in fish to get these, 17:50 you actually stabilize the membranes of the heart cell, 17:55 you lower the irritability of those heart muscle cells, 18:00 and your risk of having a dangerous rhythm after a 18:04 heart attack is reduced, and you actually have lower risk of 18:07 sudden death. 18:08 - So there are essential fatty acids that actually are putting 18:11 out the fire in the arteries and those essential ones are 18:16 Omega 3,... 18:17 - Alpha-Linolinic Acid, and it's found -it's concentrated 18:22 in those three food groups. 18:24 - English walnuts, flax seed, and dark leafy greens. 18:27 Well, fascinating! 18:30 So people should go out and immediately start eating fish 18:34 then probably because that's where the Omega 3's 18:35 are aren't they? 18:37 Well, you know it's like this. 18:38 Fish can actually help... 18:40 The Omega 3 fats in fish, there are two of them that are 18:44 very important, these two Omega 3 fats in fish 18:49 are very helpful because they can actually prevent blood clots 18:53 from forming. 18:54 And so if you want to live on a standard American diet, 18:58 and have lots of cholesterol in your blood stream, and have 19:02 lots of cholesterol moving into your arteries, then you want to 19:06 make sure that you don't... when those cholesterol deposits 19:09 break off, you want to make sure that a blood clot doesn't form. 19:13 And so eating fish can actually help prevent that. 19:15 But the best thing you can do is to prevent those plaques 19:20 those cholesterol lesions from forming in the first place. 19:23 So you won't need to take a fish oil, for example. 19:27 That's the safest approach. 19:28 I mean it's dangerous to have a plaque form in your artery 19:31 and have it rupture. 19:32 What you want to do is prevent the plaque that can rupture. 19:36 And the way you do that is to eat a plant based diet. 19:39 You don't need fish to prevent this heart disease. 19:42 - What if you already have the heart disease and you want 19:43 to reverse it or should I say stop it, 19:46 is it ok for fish then? or plants, are they better? 19:50 - Well, fish is not the best choice because if you are on a 19:53 diet that is rich in beans, whole grains, fruits, 19:57 vegetables, nuts, and seeds, and you add fish to it, 20:01 you're going to have a higher cholesterol level. 20:03 You're going to have a higher protein level. 20:06 Animal protein can also raise cholesterol. 20:08 - So maximizing my essential fat intake is paramount to 20:13 putting out this fire in my vessels. 20:16 How do I maximize that? 20:17 I think you have some graphics to show to talk about that. 20:19 - Let's take a look at the first graphic: 20:51 So this is one way. 20:53 Another way to maximize it: 20:54 - Another way to maximize the essential fats: 21:07 Do the flax seeds taste good? 21:09 - Actually, they have kind of a nutty flavor and some people 21:12 who think that the dark ones maybe have a little bit of 21:14 sharp flavor and found that the blonde seeds have a 21:17 even more mild flavor. 21:19 So how do eat them? 21:20 Do you put them on your ice cream? 21:22 - I actually take... it's the first thing I do in the morning 21:26 before breakfast, I take those two Tablespoons of whole flax 21:30 seeds, put them in the coffee grinder, whiz them up, put them 21:33 under my cereal and I hardly even know that they are there. 21:37 So you hide them. 21:38 Hide them, basically. 21:39 You can put them in bread. 21:40 You can put them in muffins. 21:42 You can put them in soup. 21:43 You can use flax seed, frankly, add a little bit of water 21:47 to that flax seed, it's a wonderful binder. 21:50 It can actually be an egg replacer. 21:52 You can use it in recipes. 21:54 Many different uses. 21:55 - Ok, what's another way to maximize that? 21:58 We have on our graphic: 22:03 - An ounce of English walnuts which would be about a hand full 22:06 but you could still close your fingers over those nuts. 22:10 In other words, you don't have an open hand full of nuts but 22:12 you can close your fingers over all those nuts. 22:15 That's about an ounce. 22:17 An ounce several times a week can just add more of these 22:21 essential fatty acids. 22:22 By the way, if we have listeners who have children, or who are 22:27 pregnant, expecting moms, or breast feeding moms, it's very 22:32 important that the developing child's brain be richly endowed 22:37 with Omega 3 fats. 22:38 Makes them smarter? 22:39 Absolutely it does! 22:41 In fact, breast milk is one of the greatest sources of 22:44 Omega 3 fat and you don't get that in cow's milk. 22:48 Children that are breast fed are actually at a higher level of IQ 22:54 when they test them and it's because they are being fed 22:57 these brain building fats with one of the prominate fats in 23:01 the brain is the Omega 3. 23:02 - Ok, another way to maximize these essential fats 23:06 that we have. 23:07 - As we mentioned earlier, one of the things you can do to 23:12 limit the benefit of Omega 3 fats is to take in so many 23:17 Omega 6 fats... 23:19 That's like in processed oils? 23:21 - That's processed oils, corn oils, safflower oil, these 23:25 different oils, refined oils. 23:28 You can take in so much Omega 6 fat in the form of those 23:30 processed oils that it totally takes up the enzyme that's 23:35 needed to work on the Omega 3 fats from the flax seed, 23:39 English walnuts, and greens and those essential fats can't be 23:43 beneficial at reducing inflammation. 23:45 - So decrease the competition so it can flourish. 23:50 Anything else here to maximize we have on our list? 23:52 - Well, actually they've discovered if you could eat 23:55 fats that are rich in mono-unsaturated oils: 24:06 These mono-unsaturated fats actually have less of the 24:12 Omega 6 fat that competes with the Omega 3 24:16 that you're taking in. 24:17 - That doesn't sound like something that's going to be 24:19 hard to do at all. 24:20 Lot's of people like these foods that you have mentioned 24:23 and they're protective against the fire in our arteries. 24:26 You know many times people say, "Well, I'm just going to get to 24:28 the doctor and get checked out. " 24:30 I'm sure not too many doctors ask about these different 24:33 tests that you've given... are you eating this, are you doing 24:36 this, these are all things we can do. 24:37 But many times they'll just say, "Well, let's do an angiogram 24:39 and make sure that's ok and then they'll just say it's 24:41 a clean bill of health. 24:43 Anything wrong with that approach? 24:44 - Well, actually, there's been a reformation, so to speak, in 24:48 the understanding of coronary disease. 24:51 We used to think it was a disease of a lumen, where the 24:54 blood is flowing. 24:55 In other words, we thought that over the years more and more 24:58 cholesterol filled up the inside of your artery and finally it 25:01 shut off and you got a heart attack 25:05 and cessation of blood flow. 25:06 But what they've discovered recently with the new technique 25:10 which is called intra-vascular ultra sound where they actually 25:13 take a coronary catheter, they put it inside your coronary 25:17 artery and on the end is an ultra sound probe that rotates 25:21 at rapid speed and it actually takes pictures of the wall of 25:25 the coronary artery in living patients. 25:28 It's like real-time living microscopy in a living patient 25:32 with coronary disease. 25:33 And what they discovered is that the cholesterol that 25:37 actually encroaches on the blood flow, represents only about 1% 25:42 of the coronary artery disease burden in a patient. 25:46 In fact 95-99% of coronary disease is not impeding on 25:51 the blood flow. 25:52 It's actually in the wall of the artery. 25:54 What they've discovered is that the coronary artery as this 25:57 disease advances, as you put more cholesterol in your artery 26:01 wall, the coronary is able to remodel. 26:04 In other words, it's able to keep the blood flow space 26:07 constant even though there could be huge amounts of cholesterol 26:10 plaque in the artery wall. 26:12 And that is completely missed on a angiogram, because all 26:14 you see is that remodeled normal width coronary and your missing 26:19 95-99% of the disease. 26:23 - What's the best test you can have to decide whither or not 26:26 you have fire in your arteries coronary artery disease? 26:29 - Frankly, there are two tests very simple that would actually 26:34 be the best test to predict your future risk of a coronary event. 26:38 That would be a total cholesterol divided by your 26:42 good cholesterol or HDL cholesterol. 26:45 So you just take your total cholesterol, you divide it by 26:48 your good cholesterol and it gives you that ratio number 26:50 and then the C Reactive Protein. 26:52 Those two tests together, C Reactive Protein should be 26:55 less than one, the ratio should be less than four, total 26:58 cholesterol to HDL, less than four or even better, 27:01 less than 3. 27:02 Those two things together will give you your best information 27:05 about future risk of a heart attack. 27:06 - So people could go to the doctor, they could schedule that 27:09 test, that's something that all doctor's they'll know about if 27:12 they go talk to them about it? 27:13 Absolutely 27:14 More and more doctors are testing for C Reactive Protein. 27:17 - What about angiograms, should we ever have them? 27:22 - Well, angiograms can be helpful because if the coronary 27:26 narrowing is very tight you may need to do a angioplasty 27:30 - But those are really stable plaques and it's 27:31 not really going to... 27:32 That's right. 27:33 Angioplasty has never been shown to lower death from 27:36 heart disease because it's only treating 1-5% of the disease 27:39 those lesions that are shown on the angiogram 27:42 are the most stable. 27:43 So C Reactive and cholesterol. 27:46 We've been talking with Dr. Tim Arnott. 27:48 He's a physician at the Lifestyle Center of America 27:52 in Oklahoma. 27:53 They do programs addressing this and also programs 27:55 in the community. 27:56 We're glad you've joined us and hope you have 27:58 health for a lifetime. |
Revised 2014-12-17