Participants: Don Mckintosh (Host), David DeRose
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000177
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00:03 designed to promote good health and is not intended 00:05 to take the place of personalized professional care. 00:09 The opinions and ideas expressed 00:10 are those of the speaker, 00:12 viewers are encouraged to draw their own conclusions 00:15 about the information presented. 00:49 Hello and Welcome to Health For A Lifetime. 00:52 I am your host Don Mackintosh and 00:53 today we're gonna be talking about an interesting subject. 00:56 We're gonna be talking with Dr David DeRose, 00:59 he is a physician from Southern Oklahoma 01:03 and he is a specialist in internal medicine 01:05 and also preventive medicine 01:07 and has done a lot of work in public health as well. 01:11 Dr. DeRose we are glad you are with us today. 01:13 It always good to be on the show with you Don. 01:15 And I can't remember doing a program on this. 01:17 We're gonna talking about so called male menopause. 01:21 I've never really considered the subject 01:24 much myself or maybe I should because 01:26 when does menopause come about for a male. 01:29 While the question is does it even exist? 01:31 Probably not because, isn't that's the ladies problem? 01:35 Well, this whole thing of Andropause 01:38 or male menopause, Okay. 01:40 is really a hard issue, there were some doctors 01:43 who say it does exist. It is a problem, 01:45 it is a concern and needs to be treated 01:48 and there are other doctors that say 01:50 yes testosterone levels do decreases with age, 01:55 but there is no Andropause, 01:59 that's in anyway analogous to menopause. 02:03 I tend to lean toward that latter school of thought 02:06 that there is not some dramatic climatic event 02:09 in the male hormonal life cycle if you will, 02:14 but by the same token there are real changes 02:16 in testosterone that occur overtime. 02:18 Okay, so you know maybe 02:20 another factor could be drug companies 02:22 that seem to be very happy to find the things 02:25 they can make drugs for 02:26 although that's positive in the many ways, 02:28 you know, someone suggest that, you know, 02:32 they create needs by saying this is a problem, 02:35 that's the problem, you don't think that's a fact. 02:37 Well, I haven't really seen it at least in the things 02:40 I have been reading, it seemed to be something 02:42 being driven by drug companies. 02:43 I mean, sure if there are certain proprietary drugs 02:47 that are being studied may be but the law have to realize 02:49 that these sex steroids 02:52 and what's being marketed are often 02:54 not the sex steroids themselves, 02:56 it's not that they're telling people 02:57 to line up for testosterone shots. 02:59 A lot of people who are promoting this Andropause 03:03 for example through the Internet are people 03:05 that are trying to sell you a whole raft of supplements 03:07 that are designed to boost your testosterone levels, 03:10 make you feel better, more youthful 03:12 in all aspects of human performance. 03:16 What can we do to measure 03:19 to see whether or not the levels are normal? 03:21 Is there a measurement? 03:22 Well actually, there is a measurement 03:24 and you can simply measure testosterone level. 03:27 The problem was just the 03:28 conventional testosterone measurement. 03:30 I'll just illustrate it in the case of an individual, 03:34 who talked with me very recently. 03:36 He had come in contact with someone who, 03:40 I don't know how they do this, to be honest with you, 03:43 but they are phone based and Internet based physicians. 03:46 I guess they will order lab tests for people. 03:49 So this guy had some doctor order this lab panel 03:53 to see if he was testosterone deficient, 03:57 this is a man in his maybe 70s. 03:59 And they just measure what we call a random testosterone, 04:03 what that means is irrespective of 04:06 what time of day 04:07 they measure this blood testosterone level. 04:09 The problem with that Don is the standard that we use 04:13 for looking at whether testosterone is high or low, 04:15 is the measurement made 04:16 between 6:00 and 8:00 am in the morning. 04:19 Why then? 04:20 That's when testosterone typically peaks 04:22 especially in younger man it's very consistent, 04:25 as we get older there may not be as much of a peak 04:28 but that's the time we're looking for 04:29 the maximal level we wanna get it, 04:31 this guy had his level drawn at some other time. 04:33 His level was virtually normal, 04:35 a few points below and on top of that they measured 04:38 an even better test which is free testosterone. 04:41 Okay free meaning in the blood stream. 04:44 Yes, it's in the blood stream not bond to something else, 04:47 many of the compounds in our body 04:49 are hooked up to carriers. 04:51 And so testosterone hooks up to 04:54 something called sex hormone binding globulin 04:58 and that's inactive basically 05:00 while its hooked up to that carrier. Okay. 05:02 The free testosterone is The active testosterone, 05:05 so in the case I am sharing with you, 05:06 this 70-year-old man has this 05:09 blood testosterone measurement made, 05:12 not between 6:00 and 8:00 in the morning, 05:14 close to normal 05:15 then the free testosterone is totally normal. 05:18 Okay. And what happens? 05:19 What! Yeah! What happens? 05:21 This fellow over The phone 05:23 tells him he is well on testosterone. 05:25 And has him to order his product. 05:26 Yeah he has got to order all these natural supplements 05:29 that are gonna raise his testosterone 05:31 and make him, you know, 05:32 feel more like a man. 05:33 Whatever is supposed to happen to him 05:35 and this is really what I would say, you know, 05:40 you are talking about drug companies 05:42 kind of commandeering this 05:44 I am saying there are all kinds of people, 05:46 they are trying to find commercial advantage 05:48 in making this into a great, 05:51 I mean think about it, 05:52 the population is aging and so if you can get every man 05:55 as he gets older convinced that 05:57 he is going through Andropause 05:58 and you have got all kinds of stuff to sell him 06:00 and you could get rich. You could. 06:03 Unfortunately at my website, we don't sell any supplements. 06:06 That's good, yeah, on your website 06:08 you do have something about this subject, 06:09 don't you? 06:10 Right, we've got information, but no supplements, 06:13 my ministry is information ministry, 06:16 we are not trying to sell. 06:19 You are now gonna have someone call up you 06:21 and you gonna do these tests. 06:22 No, I don't order lab tests over phone or anything. 06:25 And the name of that ministry is compass health 06:27 and it's compasshealth.net, compasshealth.net 06:31 You got it. 06:32 And has a lot of information, 06:34 well, then what are normal levels for testosterone. 06:39 Well, we actually use in this country 06:41 a measurement that's a little bit different 06:44 then is used internationally. 06:45 We use something called nanograms per deciliter, 06:48 most people won't know what that measurement means. 06:51 The average person didn't even 06:52 had their testosterone level measured. 06:54 But, the normal range in the US units 06:57 that we are using 300 to 1000, 07:01 that's the range between 6:00 and 8:00 in the morning, 07:04 that's when we're looking at this peak testosterone level. 07:08 So, there is other things to interact with this, 07:11 I see here on your web page 07:12 you say that the pituitary 07:14 and hypothalamus are also related, 07:17 and this and of course they all talk to each other, 07:19 so, just because your level's low 07:21 doesn't mean it's that problem, 07:23 it could be some problem 07:24 with your pituitary or hypothalamus. 07:26 No, you are exactly right, I mean, 07:27 we know the testosterone is made from the testicles 07:30 and so if you have a low testosterone level, 07:33 it doesn't mean you're testicles necessarily are failing 07:36 or could be a pituitary problem. 07:38 That's exactly right, if your pituitary is not making LH, 07:41 Luteinizing hormone, it's the signal 07:43 that tells the testosterone to make this testosterone, 07:47 this male androgen, then that could be 07:50 the problem or the hypothalamus, 07:52 which is in the brain telling the pituitary 07:55 at the base of the brain to put out the LH 07:58 if it's got a problem, 07:59 if you've had a stroke or something else, 08:01 a tumor in the brain. So really Don, 08:03 if you do have a testosterone measurement made, 08:07 okay. Right. 08:09 And we will make it personal, so we have got someone 08:11 who is viewing today and they say boy 08:13 this is all interesting and they wonder if I am, 08:16 you know, got a low testosterone level, 08:17 they go to their doctor 08:18 and the normal range between 300 and 1000, 08:21 they have a testosterone measurement 08:23 that comes back a 150, that's very low 08:26 that should prompt some diagnostic evaluation, 08:30 why the testosterone level is that low. 08:33 Yeah, because it could be the hypothalamus, 08:35 it could be the pituitary, it could be 08:36 all kinds of different things, 08:37 but it's not the end of all is what you are saying. 08:40 Exactly right! 08:41 Okay what are some factors that influence these levels, 08:46 these testosterone levels? 08:47 Well there are a variety of factors 08:48 and just to go back to this one scenario, 08:51 I gave you, this 70-year-old gentlemen. 08:53 Who called up and. 08:54 Yeah, was sold this raft of supplements, 08:56 when talking with this fellow, 08:58 I mean if you met him, 09:00 you would need to talk with him at all, 09:02 you could just see him and you'd realize 09:04 he was overweight. Okay. 09:06 One of the things That Drives 09:07 testosterone levels down is overweight. 09:10 Is that right? 09:11 So, here this guy instead of spending his money 09:13 on a health club membership or better yet, 09:15 get some new walking shoes. 09:17 He's buying all these supplements 09:20 and really if he just had his testosterone measurement, 09:24 measured between 6:00 and 8:00 in the morning, 09:25 it probably would have been normal. 09:27 But, if he was concerned Beyond 09:28 that just exercising more could have 09:31 made the big difference 09:33 and also lowered his risk of 09:35 a whole list of other problems. 09:36 So, losing weight, I mean, every pound, 09:38 the weight you gain is a whole 09:40 bunch of extra blood vessels, 09:42 as this you know body only produces 09:44 so much and if you're 150 pounds, 09:46 but you move to 300, you still have the same 09:48 you know production level, 09:51 is that way it goes down and up? 09:53 Well I can't tell you I understand 09:54 all the physiology between the obesity, 09:56 testosterone relationship, but it is 09:58 a consistent relationship if someone is overweight 10:01 and they lose weight. 10:02 They can expect those testosterone levels to rise. 10:05 So, you have here on the web page 10:07 that other things can cause it to increase or decrease, 10:10 one is acute illness, any kind of illness, pneumonia. 10:14 Exactly if you've been acutely sick 10:17 those testosterone levels could be suppressed, 10:19 you know, a good way of looking 10:20 at this done is our bodies were designed so that 10:24 when we are under stress 10:26 the most essential things are preserved 10:29 and the least essential things are cutback first 10:32 and so we find this in women as well as men. 10:34 If the body is under stress, one of the first things 10:37 that suffers is reproductive capacity, 10:39 so just like the young ladies 10:41 that are doing you know aggressive gymnastics, 10:44 their hormonal levels may drop 10:47 and they stop having her menstrual periods, 10:48 men when they are under lots of stress, acute stress, 10:51 whether it's physical illness or something else 10:53 we may see those testosterone levels drop. 10:55 What about chronic illness? 10:56 Chronic illness is also on the list. 10:59 So, this is why you Know 11:01 if we just look at one thing in isolation, 11:03 you just say look at the testosterone level. 11:04 Not at all. You're missing the big picture. 11:06 So, diabetes, lung problems, all those 11:09 different kind of things can cause it to go down. 11:11 Exactly all these things were on the list and treatment 11:13 of the underlying problem is where we should focus. 11:15 Then what about medications, 11:17 other medications make it go down. 11:18 There are medications, 11:19 that could affect testosterone levels, 11:21 and some of those medications 11:22 are commonly used drugs in America. 11:26 Like you have done here for heart disease, 11:27 Digoxin. Exactly, Digoxin, 11:30 which many of our listeners and viewers 11:33 may be aware of for their heart 11:35 for whether it's Atrial Fibrillation, 11:37 whether they're on Lanoxin formulation or something else, 11:41 this is a common drug 11:43 and it can depress testosterone levels. 11:45 So, you also list here 11:46 Narcotics and excessive alcohol. 11:49 Well you know the alcohol connection is really, 11:52 I was gonna say a sobering one, 11:54 but that may not be appreciated by you Don, 11:59 who has a little bit different sense of humor. 12:01 It wasn't supposed to be a joke, 12:03 but I was searching for some other word 12:04 to convey the same thing. 12:05 But alcohol is something that really is a reminder to us 12:09 because we're touting alcohol so much, 12:11 I'm not, but many in the public 12:13 health community are touting 12:14 this is something beneficial and it does interfere 12:17 with testosterone levels 12:18 as well as a number of other things. 12:19 Yes, so I suppose you know people 12:21 who are drinking and different things, 12:23 if they are worried at all about their testosterone, 12:25 they'd stop drinking. You are exactly right, 12:28 blood pressure too, alcohol is something 12:30 that raises blood pressure. 12:31 And since we're on the subject, 12:33 it raises breast cancer risk in women for sure. 12:37 Males in breast cancer connection with the alcohol, 12:41 I have not seen data. 12:42 So, narcotics, pain killers, alcohol, 12:44 but you also list as something 12:46 you can really down the testosterone, 12:48 cigarette smoking. 12:50 You know the list just continues to grow and grow 12:54 about the problems of tobacco smoking. 12:56 Many people are getting the message done, 12:58 but it said that many of our young people 13:01 are still picking up cigarettes and becoming addicted. 13:06 Yes, it's definitely on the list 13:08 for lowering testosterone levels. 13:09 You say that they are some lifestyle factors 13:12 that may raise the testosterone levels, 13:14 you also talk on your website compasshealth.net 13:18 about a replacement, hormone replacement, 13:21 testosterone replacement, 13:23 we wanna talk about those things with you 13:25 when we comeback and we hope that you join us. 13:30 Have you found yourself Wishing 13:32 That you could stir up few pounds, 13:33 have you been on a diet for most of your life 13:36 but not found anything 13:37 that will really keep the weight off, 13:39 if you have answered yes to any of these questions 13:42 then we've a solution for you that works 13:45 Dr. Hans Diehl and Dr. Aileen Ludington 13:47 have written a marvelous book 13:49 that they called Reversing Obesity Naturally 13:52 and we would like to send it to you free of charge, 13:54 here's a medically sound approach 13:56 successfully used by thousands, 13:58 who were able to eat more and lose weight permanently 14:01 without feeling guilty or hungry 14:03 through lifestyle medicine. 14:05 Dr. Diehl and Dr. Ludington have been featured 14:08 on 3ABN and the news booklet, 14:10 they present a sensible approach 14:12 to eating nutrition and lifestyle changes 14:14 that can help you prevent heart disease, 14:16 diabetes and even cancer. 14:18 Call up right today 14:19 for your free copy of our Reversing Obesity Natural 14:22 and you could be on your way 14:23 to a healthier and happier you, 14:25 it's absolutely free of charge, so right today. 14:32 Welcome back, we're talking with Dr. David DeRose, 14:34 he is a physician from Southern Oklahoma 14:36 and he has dedicated his life to understanding 14:39 both the medical side and the spiritual side 14:41 of our health problems, 14:43 he has a website called compasshealth.net 14:46 and the material that we are covering today 14:47 and many other interesting 14:49 and important topics are on that website, 14:52 thank you for that resource by the way. 14:54 You're welcome. 14:55 We appreciate that, now we're talking about male 14:57 or so called male menopause or Andropause 15:00 as the term is and you know 15:03 we're saying is that true or false 15:05 and we've been looking at several different things, 15:07 blood levels of testosterone, 15:08 the fact that testosterone is not the end 15:10 all because its dependent on the hypothalamus 15:13 and also pituitary, other glands in the body 15:15 and so it's not a simple as looking at that, 15:17 but having said that we looked at some things 15:19 that can elevate it 15:20 and something that can actually looked at 15:22 what could lower it and we wanna look at some things 15:24 that could raise the blood testosterone levels, 15:28 is there any accurate summary about this. 15:31 Oh no, definitely and in fact the things 15:33 that can raise it are often on the flip side of the things 15:36 that lower in many cases, so we're speaking about obesity, 15:41 lowering testosterone. 15:42 So, it's pretty obvious one way to raise testosterone 15:45 levels, as we've mentioned is to lose weight. 15:48 The same with alcohol and tobacco, 15:51 stopping those substances can make a difference 15:54 and the same with some of these prescription drugs 15:56 again we never recommend someone 15:59 just stop a prescription drug 16:00 without consulting with a physician, 16:02 but if it's a concern that this 16:04 is affecting your testosterone levels, 16:06 it's something worth discussing with your physician 16:09 see if there is an alternate medication 16:10 that can accomplish the same, there are some other things 16:13 though that we haven't talk about, 16:15 one of them is short-term weight training exercise. 16:18 Well, that sounds Pretty manly. 16:19 It is manly. Want to get your testosterone? 16:22 That's right start pumping some iron, 16:23 actually there is evidence, there is evidence 16:26 that this can help boost testosterone levels. 16:29 In fact a lot what we often attribute to aging. 16:33 We're finding in many dimensions 16:35 is just related to inactivity 16:38 and we're not maintaining our bodies 16:40 and so yes there tends to be this decline in testosterone 16:44 overtime, but some of that if we keep fit, 16:47 weight training exercise, keep lean, 16:49 we gonna see that much less. 16:51 Let me give you another example. Okay. 16:53 As we get older as men, 16:55 we have an increase risk of developing sleep apnea. 16:58 Part of that increase risk has to do 17:00 if we tend to gain weight overtime, 17:02 but sleep apnea and interrupted sleep, 17:05 poor quality sleep is a known 17:07 cause of depressing testosterone levels. 17:10 So, definitely check that out, 17:14 it the ways but also checkout there is a disturbing sleep. 17:17 Yeah, here is the situation, sleep apnea 17:19 is such a big problem Don, 17:21 that if someone is snoring at night, 17:24 if someone observes him to stop breathing at night, 17:28 this is something serious 17:29 not only because it can be lowering testosterone levels, 17:32 but sleep apnea has been associated with 17:35 heart rhythm problems, 17:36 it's been associated with diabetes, 17:39 increase risk of diabetes, 17:41 high blood pressure, there is a host of things 17:43 and of course accidents during the day. 17:47 Because these people 17:48 are excessively sleepy during the day, 17:49 they're not aware of it at night, 17:52 but we knew of obstructive sleep apnea. 17:54 You're actually waking up often times, 17:57 hundreds of times throughout the night 17:59 and you're totally oblivious to it. 18:01 And so you never get that deep sleep, 18:03 you never get that rejuvenating sleep 18:05 and you're always fatigued. 18:07 That's right it's not though as obvious as it may seem, 18:12 you see because people at least 18:13 what's happening at night, 18:15 when you start to snore 18:17 and then you stop breathing 18:19 when your oxygen level gets low enough, 18:21 you're brain tells your body to wake up and breath. 18:25 You don't wake up though, it's on a subconscious level. 18:28 Umm, umm! 18:29 So, someone says why I've slept through the night, 18:30 but I just feel wiped out, 18:32 they have actually at a brain level, 18:34 they have awakened hundreds of times 18:36 not at a conscious level. 18:37 Okay, so if you have any question about 18:40 that usually a pulmonologist or somebody who has a lab, 18:43 you can go there and you can get it checked out. 18:45 That's exactly right 18:46 and the interesting relationship about sleep apnea 18:49 and testosterone, it works both ways 18:52 because now with all this interest 18:53 and people trying to boost their testosterone levels. 18:56 Testosterone tends to make sleep apnea worse. 19:01 So, someone who just Willy-Nilly decides, 19:05 well I must be low on testosterone, 19:06 I am going to start taking these herbal preparations 19:09 that I can get 19:10 and see if I can boost my testosterone levels, 19:13 they may actually, ironically, 19:16 make their problems worse. 19:19 With the sleep apnea? 19:20 With sleep apnea. 19:21 So, the hormone replacement therapy 19:24 or suggested hormone replacement therapy, 19:27 is something we talk about a lot with women 19:29 who are going through the change or whatever. 19:31 But, with men you better think twice 19:34 about that is what you are saying? 19:35 Well, we found that we have to do that with 19:37 women as well, and ladies know that today. Right. 19:41 This idea that, look at, if you've a certain situation 19:46 when you're young and it changes when you're old, 19:49 we can make you feel like you're younger again 19:52 or restore your vitality 19:54 by try and make your body more like it was 19:56 when you are in your 20s. 19:58 We've seen with the female sex hormones 20:00 with the estrogen, 20:01 the progesterone simply does not work. 20:03 Umm, umm! 20:04 And we should be very careful because Don, 20:06 not only does testosterone increase 20:11 sleep apnea problems if they exist, 20:13 testosterone also does some other bad things. 20:15 What's they do? 20:16 Lowers HDL levels. 20:18 Which is the happy density lipoprotein, the healthy. 20:22 The healthy one right, the good cholesterol, 20:24 you low that 20:25 when you start increasing you're testosterone levels. 20:27 You do some other thing though 20:29 and that is you increase your risk of your PSA going up, 20:33 you'll increase the risk of prostate enlargement. 20:36 The biggest concern 20:37 is if you have got an early prostate cancer 20:40 that's not been detected 20:41 and you start taking 20:43 something that's raising your testosterone levels. 20:45 Not Good. 20:46 Not good at all, 20:47 you'll be feeding that cancer 20:48 and currently multiply problems. 20:49 So, it sounds like you're saying 20:52 think twice before looking at replacement therapy. 20:56 That's exactly right, this is not something 20:59 that we encourage lay people to do on their own, 21:02 say look at read the stuff on the Internet, 21:04 read the latest book on Andropause, 21:06 and if you think your symptoms fit 21:08 the whatever the author is saying on the symptoms 21:11 of andropause start taking some DHEA or DHEAS 21:16 or you know some other 21:19 hormonal pro-occurs receive 21:21 and get your testosterone level up. 21:23 What I am saying is that theoretically is advise 21:25 that's frought with problems. 21:27 So, why then on your website, 21:28 you know compasshealth.net, 21:30 you also list potential benefits 21:33 for many of the things like increased 21:36 or improved insulin function, 21:37 decrease body fat mass, 21:39 increase bone health of course a big one probably 21:43 the people are interested in, 21:44 increase libido and sexual functioning, 21:46 potential benefits for those that are having angina 21:50 and those are also very positive. 21:52 Yes, and they are, but you notice on the website 21:55 like when it's speaking about libido, 21:56 its talking about the people have the lowest levels 21:59 of the testosterone. 22:00 Yes, if you've got you know testicular failure 22:03 okay you know whatever for whatever reason 22:06 I mean if you've testicular torsion, 22:08 you've a traumatic event, 22:10 you know when you had a problem with one 22:12 of the other other testicles earlier in life 22:13 yes you're testosterone levels are very low, 22:17 we'll do a testosterone measurement, 22:18 okay you're seeing their endocrinologist or urologist 22:21 who walk you down their path. 22:22 Your testosterone level is very low 22:25 and you don't have a pituitary problem 22:27 or a brain problem 22:28 then yes 22:29 you may get some profound benefits 22:31 if you really have a problem with. 22:33 Umm, umm! 22:34 So, the website is trying to give you 22:35 a balance prospective. 22:37 Yes, if you really want testosterone 22:39 it can cause problems, 22:40 but by the same token 22:41 because of that don't you treat yourself 22:44 with these "natural preparations." 22:46 Okay, other benefits you have mentioned on the site, 22:49 benefits in depression, mental functioning, 22:52 but all of these you're saying. 22:53 These potential benefits, 22:56 you better really know 22:57 what you are doing before you look at those and say 22:59 I need all that. 23:00 You wanna make sure you are deficient. 23:02 Umm, umm! 23:03 Okay and so that's a laboratory diagnoses, 23:05 it's a clinical diagnoses, 23:07 you wanna be working with a physician, 23:09 not just to somebody who orders a test 23:11 over the phone for you 23:13 and doesn't even know what time the test was done, 23:15 is not putting in the context of what's going on with you, 23:18 you want that personal relationship with a physician. 23:21 So, this is almost I mean this topic is almost like, 23:24 you know, if you have any question 23:27 I guess what I am asking is for an action item. 23:29 If you have any question what's so you're 23:31 testosterone level looking at the science and symptoms 23:33 I comprehend and your first step is may be 23:35 go to endocrinologist or talk to your family 23:38 physician who refer you to one 23:39 and just check it out. 23:41 Well it's not even that complicated. 23:44 Okay. I mean the average family practitioner, 23:46 the average internal medicine specialist, 23:48 can draw a simple blood test, 23:50 You know to check your testosterone level, 23:53 to check your free testosterone level if there is, 23:56 you know, if you wanna be a little bit 23:57 more precise and if those numbers are fine then. 24:02 Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it okay, 24:05 if they are really low. Okay. 24:07 And really low like below 200, 24:10 you definitely need to have 24:12 the pituitary function checked, 24:14 you wanna make sure there is not something serious 24:16 going on and that's scenario you don't just want to start 24:19 taking testosterone. 24:20 Umm, umm! 24:21 You wanna find out 24:22 why it's low first and then get the proper treatment. 24:26 And if you're Overweight take care 24:29 of that problem first. 24:30 Exactly and you see I think Don 24:32 as we have these dialogues 24:33 and we speak about this subject, 24:35 it just comes back to me the same common themes, 24:38 what people want to do today 24:41 is what they always wanted to take a short court. 24:42 They wanna take a short cut to good health, 24:44 they wanna catch on the latest heart diagnosis, 24:47 because I after all they say I just don't feel like that 24:49 I used to feel or I have never felt all that great, 24:52 they're looking for something new 24:53 when often times the simple thing, 24:56 exercise we talked about, didn't we. 24:57 Yeah we talked about stopping smoking, 25:00 we talked about maybe pumping the iron. 25:02 That's exactly right. 25:03 All these lifestyle things 25:05 and so what happens is 25:07 when someone short circuits their connection 25:10 that God has put there 25:11 between a healthy lifestyle and healthy physiology 25:15 whether its testosterone levels, 25:17 whether it's cholesterol, 25:18 whether it's blood pressure. 25:19 All kinds of good things happen, 25:21 we follow good lifestyle. 25:22 We need to try to short circuit 25:24 that instead taking whether its natural compounds 25:26 or prescription drugs you start messing up physiology. 25:31 One of the things I noticed on the website was that 25:35 when you take the supplements it can increase 25:38 the hemoglobin what causes problems. 25:40 It's that testosterone connection. 25:41 If you are actually taking supplements 25:43 that are raising testosterone levels down 25:46 what you going to do? 25:47 As you are gonna tend to raise your hemoglobin level 25:49 and now that may sound wonderful to some people, 25:52 but actually most people in America 25:54 are hypercoagulable, their blood, yes. 25:58 Hypercoagulable. Yes. 26:00 Which means they are just looking to clot. 26:03 That's right. 26:04 And they don't need a higher concentration 26:07 of blood cells. 26:08 Okay. Okay. 26:09 So, in fact good analogy, Don. Remember, 26:12 I don't know if you remember hearing about this, 26:14 but there were a number of cyclists, 26:16 elite, in a world class cyclists who were dropping dead. 26:19 Didn't hear about it. 26:20 Okay, I am not a big cyclist fan either, 26:22 but the medical journals were reading about it. 26:25 It was big news. 26:26 A lot of these leads cyclists were dying 26:29 and what they were doing 26:30 is their blood doping. 26:31 Okay, they were boosting up 26:33 their hemoglobin so that they can carry more oxygen. 26:35 Not good. 26:36 Not good, because 26:38 when you get little bit dehydrated 26:39 and you have got all those blood cells in, 26:41 blood is likely to clot 26:42 and these people are having heart attacks, 20, 26:44 30 year olds. Okay. 26:46 Just imagine, you're 70 years old, you boosting, 26:49 you know taken all this extra testosterone 26:53 either without a prescription 26:54 or you are do in a court naturally. 26:56 Listen your testosterone level is fine, 26:59 live it alone, get on a good lifestyle 27:01 even if it's a little low and you wanna boost it, 27:03 boost the way, exercise, stop smoking, 27:06 get rid of the alcohol, 27:07 these things can make the real difference. 27:10 Dr. DeRose on your website compasshealth.net 27:13 you have more this material and you know, 27:15 this whole thing just debate you are not ready 27:19 to write a book on it, 27:20 but you will at least given us the principles to deal with. 27:23 Definitely you can go there to the website 27:25 and tap into that information. 27:27 Well, thank you so much for taking your time and again, 27:30 you know, spiritually speaking, 27:32 God designed the body to kind of, 27:35 you know, work without a lot of additional help 27:38 and that's really the message 27:39 we are sending as well as it. 27:41 That's exactly the message. 27:42 God's given us a program of total health. 27:44 Let's just cooperate with him. 27:46 Follow the best lifestyle. 27:48 We will see benefits hormonally 27:49 as well as every other way of life. 27:51 Well, thanks so much for joining us 27:52 today in the program. 27:53 We appreciate what you do on the website 27:55 and all this work, 27:56 and thank you all for joining us in Health For A Lifetime. |
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