Participants: Don Mckintosh (Host), George Guthrie
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000184
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Viewers are encouraged to draw their own 00:14 conclusions about the information presented. 00:50 Welcome to Health For A Lifetime, 00:51 I'm your host Don Mackintosh. 00:52 We're glad that you joined us today. 00:54 And today, we are gonna be talking 00:56 with Dr. George Guthrie. 00:58 Dr. Guthrie is from Southern Oklahoma, 01:00 where he serves as the medical director 01:03 for the Lifestyle Center of America. 01:06 Lifestyle Center of America treats 01:08 all kinds of different lifestyle diseases. 01:11 That's very true Don, we like to optimize people's 01:16 lifestyle so as to minimize their disease 01:18 and minimize their dependence on medication. 01:21 You put them in control, not the doctor. 01:24 That's what we are trying to do, educate them, 01:27 teach them how it works and then share with them 01:30 their responsibility and encourage them to do it. 01:33 And you know that's refreshing for me to talk 01:35 to someone like you because and I don't mean 01:37 to stereotype, but you know someone that has 01:40 your training you of course had done over 20 years 01:44 as a medical practice, you taught in the school 01:47 of health. You know, you know, we can go through 01:51 the alphabets too, we have a lot of different letters, 01:53 but you could be really focusing on something 01:56 that's more monetarily driving, driven, but this is, 02:01 this is the service that's taking all that information 02:04 and trying to put someone else in the driver seat 02:05 and I, I appreciate it, it's back to the basics I was 02:08 actually thought as most doctors are in their training. 02:12 A non-drug therapy comes first, I think many doctors 02:15 get discouraged because the patient comes in 02:17 and says I want a pill usually. 02:20 And today we are gonna be talking about something 02:22 that's, that you can't buy over-the-counter, 02:25 I guess. That's right. 02:26 And talk about something that, that actually goes 02:30 away from taking anything over-the-counter. 02:32 I guess that's right. 02:33 And this is the subject of fasting. 02:35 And fasting and its medical benefits 02:39 and maybe some dangers as well. Sure. 02:41 But what exactly is fasting. I know you look 02:44 at this from a, from different perspectives. 02:47 Yeah, well I often ask people what do you 02:50 think of when you here the word fasting. 02:53 Ah! Ah! Try it. Do you think well, 02:56 I think I'm gonna have to deprive myself for a longtime. 02:59 Deprivation of some kind sure, other people think of a 03:03 religious experience, like we went and we fasted. 03:06 Like Muslims 40 days and night. 03:08 Fasting and pray or the Muslims have their Ramadan 03:10 sort of a thing, where they don't eat during the day, 03:13 but then they eat at night. I hear things like fruit 03:17 fast for example and that would mean, 03:19 what would that mean. 03:20 Just no fruit or fasting, only fruit, just have 03:24 fruit or just fruit juice or breakfast. 03:28 Well, yeah, that's a little different one. Okay. 03:30 Or like entertainment fasting like no Television, 03:34 I heard that. Okay, so, so some sort of lent. 03:38 Lent okay, abstaining from something. Okay. 03:41 Another word that often comes up is cleansing or 03:44 purification, but as I talk about fasting 03:47 I would like to talk at not from those that perspective 03:50 at all, but from the perspective of physiologist, 03:54 well. A medical perspective. 03:55 A medical perspective from, medical perspective from a 03:59 perspective of physiology what is it mean to reach 04:02 the fasting state. What is the fasting state? 04:05 May be some of us have never reached that 04:07 before in America since we have so much obesity, 04:09 it could very well be. I think you right, 04:11 isn't that a fact. So, what is medically speaking. 04:15 Normally, the energy that we use goes into our mouth 04:19 into our stomachs, when our body is taking it from the 04:21 stomach or the intestines and using its energy 04:25 that's kind of the normal feeding state. 04:27 The opposite of that now is when there is no food 04:31 in the intestines supplying energy and the body has to 04:35 begin to bring energy in from storage. 04:39 So, the fasting state is really a change in the 04:42 hormone milieu in the body to have energy 04:46 come from storage rather than from the intestines. 04:49 So, when your stomach is empty and your colon is empty 04:53 and whole elementary canal, canal is empty 04:56 when that gets empty you move from being, 04:59 I don't know that we can say empty. 05:00 Don't, but at least the calories are taken 05:02 out and just the waste is left. 05:04 Now how long does it take to get to that state, 05:06 since none of us have never experienced it, 05:09 so many of us have not. The average and it depends 05:12 on the meal about 6-8 hours. A fatty meal, 05:16 the heavy meal will take longer and a shorter meal 05:19 for example if you made quotes meal of an apple, 05:22 it would be a shorter time then eight hours. Umm! Umm! 05:25 That's generally the timeframe 05:27 we look at 8-12 hours. So, is this good or is this bad, 05:32 the fasting state. Well, that's an excellent question, 05:35 I suppose it depends on where you are when you 05:38 are fasting. If I were, let's say in a prison war 05:42 camp somewhere and I was wasting away this fasting 05:47 state would not be a very good thing 05:49 because I would be eating myself up not only does the 05:52 body take energy out of storage 05:53 as in fat out of storage, but it will actually begin 05:57 to eat up muscle that would be a bad thing. 05:59 Okay. But if I happened to be an overweight American, 06:02 umm! umm!, that I would like to lose some weight to get 06:05 rid of some disease that maybe is made worse by 06:07 the way from joint pain, the diabetes, the hypertension, 06:10 the heart disease whatever it maybe 06:11 and maybe that fasting state is not as much of an enemy, 06:15 as I thought it was. It's interesting, 06:19 you know, I was reading the history once about those 06:21 concentration camps and it was during that time that 06:24 they started to understand that some of our western 06:26 diseases could be reversed. Yes, yes. 06:29 So, I guess in the Lowlands and Belgium 06:32 and all this different places when they, 06:34 when the enemy came through and took all 06:36 the fruit stores everybody went from feasting to fasting 06:40 and that's when they figured out. 06:42 Diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, obesity 06:46 is kind of fade way when there is not 06:48 enough energy to go around. 06:50 So, you, you would even really may be know as much 06:53 as you do or there at the Lifestyle centre if there 06:56 had been like a fast it came because of the war. 06:59 Now we are, we are not recommending war. 07:01 No, we are recommending war and, 07:03 but we learned a lot from it. 07:04 And you right, much of the research on fasting actually 07:08 started around that time, well that too. 07:10 So, you know what are the benefits. 07:14 Let's say we are one of those few that, 07:18 well many in America that probably could 07:20 benefit little fasting. What are the benefits that 07:24 you would suggest for us? Several months ago I did a 07:28 literature search to try to and assure it I can find in 07:30 literature that would give me some idea and I found 07:33 some other interesting things a fasting maybe beneficial 07:36 for helping the the body to fight bacterial infections, 07:41 a may be decrease rheumatoid arthritis that is how treat, 07:46 rheumatoid arthritis. Increase the melatonin in 07:51 the body; may be help hypertension and even 07:55 improve in some resistance that is type 2 diabetes. 07:59 That's quite mouthful you went through that, but let's 08:01 go back and take one of the time, what about your 08:04 saying it decreases the possibility for infection. 08:10 How is that work? Well, your body's ability to 08:12 fight infections is actually better when your are in the 08:16 fasting state if it's a bacterial infection the same 08:19 is not true of a viral infection. 08:22 So, if you have a virus you need to eat, if you have a 08:24 bacteria you don't need eat. Well, that you know, 08:27 the old wise tale, now we heard for years is there is 08:29 something like starve the fever free to call right and 08:33 either some scientific bases for that old line. 08:36 So, if you have a bacterial infection it's really best to 08:39 kind of knock off eating. It's most people actually 08:43 loss their appetite and maybe the body itself 08:46 saying that's better, the fight blood cells as they are 08:48 fighting in a bacterial infection will release little 08:53 messengers, chemical messenger that would make 08:56 somebody not want t to eat, so they generally loss their 08:58 appetite and its reasonable when they were fighting a 09:01 bacterial infection to decrease the food we take in. 09:04 Fasting state maybe helpful. 09:06 And than Rheumatoid arthritis, and rheumatoid arthritis 09:10 that's a mouthful yeah, how does that work? 09:12 Rheumatoid arthritis is a autoimmune disease that is 09:17 the body gets immune gets confused, the immune 09:21 system has two sides one side of it says go get it and 09:25 the other side says oh! no you don't. 09:26 Okay, And, and if that gets out of balance let say a 09:31 little weak on the oh! no you don't side the body 09:34 is immune system may go out and begin to fight itself, 09:37 if its fighting itself as in joints. 09:40 We call it Rheumatoid arthritis and there are some 09:43 reports in the medical literature of people having 09:46 improvements in the Rheumatoid arthritis from 09:48 fasting up to and generally atleast the one side scene 09:52 or what about 10, 12, 14 days rather long period of 09:56 time with just water and apparently his immune system 09:59 comes back and balance. It's not something I have 10:02 error recommended for anybody but it is something 10:05 I found in the literature, I certainly wouldn't 10:06 do it at home. I think you need a doctor supervision 10:10 for that because there are some significant problems 10:12 we will talk about those little later. 10:14 Do you fasting as the part of work you do at the 10:17 Lifestyle centre. Yes we do, I use a little bit of that. 10:20 We will talk a little more about that, 10:21 yes, yes lets do that So, we have a fighting 10:23 bacteria, we have sometimes as a treatment 10:27 for rheumatoid arthritis and then the third one you 10:32 mentioned was melatonin. What is melatonin? 10:35 What disease? Well, when people think melatonin 10:37 they think sleep right. Many times they will. 10:40 And many people when they are not able to sleep 10:43 will take a melatonin supplement, okay. 10:46 Well, melatonin is made in the brain by a little 10:49 gland called pineal gland, Pine cone, yeah, 10:51 okay, pine cone, to help the brain sleep, melatonin 10:56 is a rest and rejuvenation hormone. A lot of folks 11:00 don't know that when your in the fasting state. 11:04 Your intestinal lining will actually make a 11:07 comparatively larger amount of melatonin 11:14 I have noticed myself when I am fasting as I eat that I 11:18 sleep better and I have heard the same from many 11:20 others who are trying to do the same thing. 11:22 So, fasting increases melatonin in the body and 11:26 may actually help with the healing and rejuvenation 11:29 and of course the sleep. Well, I heard that if you eat 11:32 something late at night that cuts down the melatonin 11:35 production too, What's I guess would go fasting at 11:38 night if it called breakfast. Yeah that's right. 11:40 Okay, melatonin, rheumatoid arthritis, fighting infections 11:46 but than you had another, what is the next one? 11:48 Hypertension. Okay hypertension. High blood 11:50 pressure, some interesting work reporting that people 11:54 with high blood pressure who fasted for 10 to 11 11:59 days, 90 percent of them were able to lower their 12:04 blood pressure down into the normal range, significant 12:08 drops, it's a rather, how do they work? 12:12 Interesting concept, well I don't that we understand 12:14 exactly how it works, I have got some ideas as far 12:17 as how physiology might go together but the study 12:19 was, that I have reviewed did not tell us how that 12:26 happens it simply reported that it does happen. 12:29 So, fasting can help bring that blood down and 12:32 I guess, that every point is brought down it is very 12:36 significant and then you can really a reduction in 12:39 lot of problems that hypertension causes. 12:41 Right, now closely tight to hypertension is another 12:44 disease. Diabetes, diabetes okay, the diabetes, 12:48 hypertension, heart disease and these are all kind of 12:51 tied together now in our understanding 12:54 along with obesity. My uncle, uncle Al, okay Al 13:01 was a eye specialist, your dad's brother 13:04 your mom's brother? My dad's sisters husband okay, 13:08 okay, uncle Al we just love uncle Al one day he went 13:13 out and got in Aeroplane crash and died. 13:15 So, he has all these medical books and when I go to 13:18 medical school the family says why don't you take it? 13:22 Well, it ends that uncle Al was a collector of 13:25 old medical books, at least a few, he had a couple of 13:27 them that I had really enjoyed kind of kept 13:30 one of the them was battle field surgery. 13:34 You know world war 1, okay this gonna be 13:37 interesting and the other one good for medical, 13:39 was entitled the starvation treatment of diabetes. 13:44 It's publication date was 1915, 1915 that's a long, 13:49 I don't know I think they knew what diabetes was 13:51 then, did they? They all know what diabetes was, 13:53 and they may have been diagnosing diabetes by 13:56 tasting urine to see it if it was sweet but they knew it 13:58 was a high sugar problem. Well, that sounds like, but 14:01 there was no such thing, it's insulin in those days that 14:03 wasn't until what 1921, 1923 that Banting and Best 14:08 discovered insulin. So, in those days the most 14:11 effective treatment of diabetes was this they 14:19 called a starvation treatment and starvation 14:22 sounds a lot like the fasting state physiologically. Yes. 14:25 That's right. And it's a very interesting kind of 14:29 description, you know, it was first with one 14:31 of the believe embed, then we said well let them go 14:36 ahead and walk around is like I will do better when 14:40 they exercise and they starved until their blood 14:43 sugar and the sugar in the urine which is normal and 14:46 it goes away. Now tell me that was an interesting 14:49 concept you see in those days they didn't even know 14:52 there is type 1, and type 2, diabetes. They thought 14:54 there were the same thing its high sugar for those who 14:57 had type 1 diabetes where the pancreas is dead, 15:00 there is no insulin while finding insulin was the cure 15:04 and their people live today because of that insulin 15:08 discovery but type 2 diabetes which we now 15:11 understand has a problem where high insulin levels to 15:14 start with. We have discovered that not only 15:18 high blood sugar problem but high insulin is also part 15:21 of the problem. Now kind of coming full circle, 15:26 it's reasonable to come back to this fasting business 15:29 or starvation as they called in harbor and they say is this 15:32 dealing with lowering insulin and it sure looks 15:35 like it is and our experience had 15:37 Lifestyle Center of America. We will place people on a 15:41 relative short fast about three days with water and 15:46 than watch that insulin resistance improve. 15:51 So, this is a old but now new treatment for diabetes 15:55 fasting. We are talking with Dr. George E. Guthrie, 15:59 we are talking about fasting and we talked about some 16:02 of the benefits and when we come back we are gonna 16:04 talk about some of the dangerous so get both sides 16:07 of the story. Join us when we come back. 16:10 Have you found yourself wishing that you could shed 16:12 a few pounds, have you been on a diet for most of 16:15 your life, but not found anything that will really 16:17 keep the weight off, if you have answered yes to any 16:20 of these questions then we have a solution for you that 16:23 works Dr. Hans Diehl and Dr. Aileen Ludington have 16:27 written a marvelous book that called Reversing 16:30 Obesity Naturally and we would like to send it to you 16:32 free of charge, here's a medically sound approach, 16:36 successfully used by thousands, who were able 16:38 to eat more and lose weight permanently without 16:41 feeling guilty or hungry through lifestyle 16:43 medicine. 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Guthrie, we are being talking about 17:14 fasting and the benefits of fasting and I will just 17:18 review that list with you in our graphic we will look it 17:21 here we have some benefits Dr. Guthrie, fighting 17:24 bacterial infections we talked about that, 17:26 increasing melatonin from the GI tracks we give that 17:29 sense of rejuvenation and rest, decreasing rheumatoid 17:33 arthritis which was fascinating decreasing 17:36 blood pressure and Reversing insulin Resistance 17:40 is at a good list. Sure right, its obviously not 17:42 exhaustive but it's some of the things we found that 17:45 maybe benefited from these fasting state and you said 17:49 you know you practice at the Lifestyle Centre of America 17:51 in Southern Oklahoma and there your will bread and 17:56 butter sort speak well what you known for, you treat all 17:59 of different types of things but I think when people 18:02 think about diabetes and they think about where to 18:05 get treated from a lifestyle perspective many times, 18:08 Lifestyle Center in America is number one on that. 18:12 And so you use actually you said two or three days 18:15 fast you watch the sugar has come down and then 18:19 you also said that the insulin resistance gets 18:23 better what is that mean insulin resistance and what 18:25 you mean by improving it? Insulin has a job of going to 18:29 the cells and saying open up and let the energy in 18:33 when the cells are insulin resistant they are saying 18:36 when the insulin comes no. No thank you or even 18:39 absolutely not, I don't want any of that stuff, now if you 18:42 have got some muscles example the thigh muscles 18:45 that are to use to working when they been seating 18:47 round doing nothing for a long time they, they have 18:51 got this insulin resistance, they, they all the foods 18:55 come in, they don't need it, so they are saying 18:57 no thank you. If you take the food away than have 18:59 them moving around the muscle has work to do 19:03 it gets hungry and that turns that 19:05 insulin resistance around. Generally, it arrives at the 19:07 short period of time that helps to decrease the need 19:11 for medications for example. Fascinating so your uncle Al 19:14 was on the something with that old book. 19:16 Hey let's look than, we looked at the benefits but 19:19 are their dangers to fasting and I think you want to talk 19:22 with us a little bit about that. Yes, I, we are afraid 19:26 of how people go long time fasting we really 19:29 start and this is the major problem with time when 19:32 we are not food and we lead it to earlier your 19:35 body starts to eat up muscle and it go actually 19:39 eat up not just skeletal muscle but your heart 19:41 muscle. If you are in the fasting state. So, little bit 19:45 good and lot can be bad, yes it is a matter effect 19:49 there is a greatest amount of muscle loss is often 19:53 early in the fast and the second or third 19:56 day, the first day is not a such a problem and then 19:59 your body goes into the kind of this safety mode 20:03 where it trying to protect and you don't tend to loss 20:05 as much muscle after those second and third 20:08 day but those first two days can really be 20:10 dilemma. So, you have some most of here some 20:13 what would you call them minerals that you loss 20:16 when you go on a fast. Yes in, don't try this at 20:19 home, okay, that sort of thing. Because when 20:22 your fasting not only do you have the possibility 20:25 of losing muscle but you also likely to be low in 20:30 things like magnesium or potassium and if people 20:35 are drinking a lot of water when they are fasting 20:38 they may actually deluge down the sodium, these 20:41 are the three minerals that are generally find 20:43 problems within the people that I am trying to 20:45 help through this therapeutic fast 20:48 that we offer to people come to 20:51 Lifestyle Center of America. So, what's the big deal 20:52 with magnesium levels going well. 20:55 Well, magnesium is generally low in people 20:58 anyhow in America. Because there is not 21:02 enough of in your diet it's a general rule. 21:04 Magnesium in our diets most of it should come 21:07 from plants and people are not eating enough 21:09 plant so they tend not to have enough magnesium, 21:12 some interesting work done by a fellow by the 21:14 name of Larry Reznik, using magnetic resonance 21:17 imaging to look inside the cells of the body not just 21:21 the blood test. The blood test it doesn't correlate 21:24 but we are talking about inside the cells of the 21:26 body. It demonstrates that people with diabetes, 21:29 hypertension, heart disease, obesity, 21:33 pretty much across the board have low 21:36 intracellular magnesium and the pills that people 21:39 take. The water pills for example tend to suck 21:42 magnesium out of the body. So, its already a 21:44 low bit for others, so it tends to be low, you drop 21:47 it low, you drop it low or need have with muscle 21:48 cramps and fatigue and people just don't feel very good. 21:53 And you can give actually a magnesium shot 21:55 for cancer. Oh! why do that, a supplement 21:58 by mouth works fine. Okay, well, I like 22:01 giving shots. You like shots okay. As a worse, 22:04 I guess I expect. Potassium, Potassium is another it's 22:08 similar to the magnesium remember that many of 22:11 the water pills that people take for their 22:13 hypertension or congestive heart failure 22:16 also suck potassium out of the body and low 22:19 potassium can lead to problems with muscles, 22:23 and the heart and all kinds of things. 22:26 So, I don't recommend that people go on long 22:29 fast without some medical supervision and 22:33 sodium when it goes low. Oh! people tend to get 22:36 really weak and sorrow, I mean not happy. 22:39 Alright, and that, and that I guess you know when 22:42 ever I talked to someone who had low sodium they 22:44 just cannot start to act kind a loopy. Yes, I like 22:47 that probably good work for them. So, the danger 22:50 is then just to summarize them, I think we have a 22:52 graphic to summarize them we have dangers 22:55 that we mentioned low magnesium, low 22:56 potassium, low sodium and loss of muscle which 23:00 you said it happens in the first three days. 23:02 While the second and third day the most much 23:05 less on the first day but the second and third day 23:07 where they suppose to eat that is correct. 23:09 So, how do you do fasting at the Lifestyle Center of 23:14 America. Well, we don't offer to everybody 23:17 I don't' recommend that people do if for example 23:20 to loss weight. The reason I think its okay for people 23:24 with type 2 diabetes to do because their insulin 23:26 level are high. Insulin tends to hold the muscles 23:28 and I think it's much safer. So you don't do it 23:31 for losing weight, no I don't think it's 23:32 appropriate. Well, that may not quite true Don. 23:39 Often as I am talking to our guest about this 23:42 someone will say how often should we fast, 23:48 okay, because it sound so good there is so many 23:51 benefits, they ready to embrace this well why don't we 23:54 fast can I do once a week could I fast two days 23:58 week. Actually, I think, the Bible talks about this 24:01 doesn't? Yes it does. Alright, so there is Bible 24:03 reason yes they do. We did we had a fellow who 24:06 decided he is going to fast for 40 days then ever, 24:09 but that's another story. Is he still with us? No. Okay. 24:13 No, he went home and I don't what happen to him. 24:16 But, my answer to him is I think it will be a good 24:19 idea if we fast it every day and you have brought 24:22 up several times already that concept of breakfast, 24:26 yeah! Right. That first meal of the day, it makes 24:29 a lot of sense physiologically for us to 24:31 reach the fasting state on a daily basis, if we eat a 24:36 small meal or no meal at all in the evening than 24:39 during the night our body changes over to the 24:43 fasting state it runs out of the energy intestines. 24:46 It starts using energy from storage in the first 24:50 24 hours it is not so much muscle it's much more 24:53 from the fat department. Okay. Isn't it interesting 24:56 concept, it is. Almost exciting when you start 24:58 thinking about losing weight while you 25:01 sleeping. Yes it's painless. It's painless. Unless you 25:05 wakeup, not that bad, So, fasting is good 25:10 everyday but through maybe just cutting out 25:13 their evening meal so someone is overweight 25:16 that's watching that's a good way to go about it 25:17 cut off the evening meal. We have had people tell 25:19 us that was the one thing they learn from our 25:22 program and fellow a call here a couple of months ago, 25:25 who said, you know that's only thing I have done 25:26 I lost 60 pounds, how does someone stop 25:30 fasting when say they went on a extended fast? 25:33 How do you start people from fasting? 25:36 That was something that I thought we want to talk 25:38 about people who fast for a long time are in danger, 25:42 their body get to use to having no food and if you 25:45 put in too much all at once it can be pretty 25:47 dangerous. The food can actually plug up 25:50 the blood vessels and can make people very sick, 25:53 for prisoners of war who were allowed after 25:57 starving to eat lots of food I actually made very 26:02 sick. So, what we recommend is that people 26:06 move to just steamed vegetables. They are easy 26:08 to digest, easy to handle and do a couple meals of 26:12 just plain steam vegetables. You transition them back, 26:16 and transition back your regular food. 26:17 Well, you're a Christian clinician and you know, 26:20 I know your I believe you are man of faith you 26:23 dedicated your life to service sacrificial service 26:25 are there are any spiritual concepts that you like to 26:28 bring out when your talking about fasting? 26:31 Getting back to the beginning where people 26:32 think that fasting is spiritual thing yes we can 26:36 do that, in many ways diabetes is a disease of 26:42 threaten, I use that word carefully but we are 26:46 eating more than we eat, the disease is actually 26:50 cause by eating more than we need and not 26:53 exercising enough, we could take that for a 26:57 model to sin for example, sin is selfishness is taking 27:03 for yourself not to give. Your are taking spiritual 27:07 calories in than your putting out and you 27:11 develop spiritual diabetes it might make sense to 27:15 stop now that treats your spiritual diabetes, 27:19 to stop going to church just feed to yourself 27:23 entertainment and begin to do some service head 27:27 back on those calories fast and start serving and 27:31 watch the whole process reverse itself 27:34 and self-efficiency. Thank you Dr. Guthrie for 27:38 being with us today and thank you what you do at 27:40 Lifestyle Center of America and thank you also from 27:43 watching, for watching us here today on 3ABN and 27:46 we hope that today's program on fasting 27:49 can be a benefit to you. Some of the people in 27:51 your family and the result that your health last not 27:55 for just now before Life Time. |
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