Participants: Don Mackintosh (Host), Neil Nedley
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000220
00:01 The following program presents principles
00:03 designed to promote good health 00:04 and is not intended to take the place of 00:06 personalized professional care. 00:09 The opinions and ideas expressed are those 00:11 of the speaker. Viewers are encouraged 00:13 to draw their own conclusions 00:15 about the information presented. 00:50 Hello and welcome to Health For A Lifetime. 00:52 I'm your host Don Mackintosh. 00:53 We're glad that you're with us today. 00:55 And if you are with us today you have a 00:56 heart and that heart is beating, 00:58 and that's why you're alive, but many 01:00 people in America and around the world 01:02 are struggling with heart disease and 01:04 talking with us today about this, number one 01:07 killer at least here in America is 01:08 Dr. Neil Nedley. Is it still number one 01:10 or has cancer overtaken it? Well, it's still 01:12 number one overall. If you take a look 01:15 at age 85 and younger cancer is number one. 01:19 Okay. Now, if you're taking a look at 01:21 atherosclerosis in general it would still be 01:25 number one even under the age of 85, 01:28 but if you're just looking at coronary 01:30 artery disease, which used to be called 01:33 the number one killer often, it's still 01:36 as number one overall, but and less than 85 01:38 cancer is your greatest likelihood of death. 01:41 Okay, so let's look at some of those 01:42 numbers maybe you, we can get a handle 01:45 on what's happening at least in the West. 01:47 Yeah, well as you can see 50 million 01:50 Americans have high blood pressure 01:52 and that's one of the precursors to artery 01:54 disease as well as stroke 01:57 and heart attack, 12.6 million have coronary 02:00 artery disease and 4.6 million 02:04 have had a stroke and survived it. 02:07 There is 1 death every 33 seconds 02:12 from atherosclerosis, 40% of all deaths 02:15 are currently from cardiovascular 02:17 disease in this country and the costs 02:20 are astounding. The latest figure we have 02:23 its 2001, but almost $300 billion spend 02:28 in health care cost on atherosclerosis, 02:31 that's a pretty phenomenal figure. 02:34 Man, and largely avoidable. That's right. 02:37 We know enough about this disease 02:39 that we can prevent it in over 90% of cases, 02:42 if people would follow what we recommend. 02:47 Ninety percent, so that would take 02:48 that $300 billion down to, 30 billion. 02:51 Yeah. Yeah, it would be down to a, 02:54 a very low health care cost. And probably 02:57 we wouldn't have spent that much money 02:58 research at that point, but still largely 03:02 preventable. Largely preventable, 03:05 yeah high blood pressure also largely 03:07 preventable and then the other risk factors 03:10 that are cigarette smoking still prevalent 03:14 in some sections of the country, 20% of 03:17 Americans still smoke and then high 03:20 cholesterol, which is even much more 03:22 prevalent? So, I mean we know so much 03:25 about it, we hear about it in the news at 03:27 least here in the West. Why is it still such 03:29 a significant problem? Number 1, 03:33 people aren't getting informed as to 03:35 what causes it to a broad scale and that's 03:37 the reason for a program such as today 03:40 where we can get the information 03:42 out there. We actually have enough 03:44 information to know how to virtually 03:46 eliminate this disease now. 03:48 And you know, when you consider the, 03:49 the figures for it you know, one death 03:52 every 33 seconds you know, you would 03:55 add up the amount of deaths in one day 03:57 from atherosclerosis and that would be 04:03 like several jumbo jets going down. 04:04 If we had just jumbo jet going down 04:06 once a year we would think that was 04:08 too much and we would put all sorts of 04:11 money into the FAA and into doing 04:13 everything we could to prevent those deaths 04:17 whether it's better pilot training 04:18 or whether it's better equipment on the 04:21 airplanes, but here we have the equivalent 04:24 of about 4 jumbo jets going down 04:26 every day as far as the amount of 04:29 deaths are concerned. And no one 04:31 seems to be all that concerned about it. 04:34 Yeah, that is interesting I mean, 04:35 look if you have a, a military conflict, 04:38 many times the news media will say, 04:39 alright it up to this number or that 04:41 number in, even if it's one or two or if 04:44 there is a some kind of serial killer 04:47 that has struck, oh! No it's up to 8 people 04:51 or 12 people and it's all over the headlines. 04:53 Yeah, exactly. But with this. 04:56 One death every 33 seconds 04:57 and people call it "Natural." 04:59 And the reason they do that is because 05:01 they don't want to hear bad news about 05:03 their bad habits. Well, I think 05:06 that's a big part of it too. 05:07 And the other part of it is there is still 05:09 general ignorance out there in regards to 05:12 the fact of this disease is preventable. 05:14 You know, I was doing an interview with 05:16 another physician in a, in a city of about 05:18 400,000, 500,000 people, and the man got off 05:22 the plane, he said exactly what you said, 05:24 but he had some very telling illustrations 05:26 that went along with it. And I, I, I called up 05:30 the news media and they were there to talk 05:32 to him right after we got out of the airport, 05:34 we went right to the news outlet. 05:36 He shared that he could prevent 05:39 and he said well, how would this, this happen? 05:41 He said, well he just start to talk about 05:43 some of the habits, never got on the news 05:46 anywhere, no one wanted to. Yes, 05:48 that's right. This person was an Olympic 05:50 gold medalist; this person was eminently 05:53 qualified at a, at a medical school out East, 05:56 Yale University. He had you know, 06:00 not secondary research reports, 06:02 but primary research he had done. 06:04 And this, this part of the country because 06:07 it was high in consumption of the foods 06:09 that he was talking again, 06:10 never made it anywhere. Wow! That's shocking, 06:14 and it's really appalling. Really, 06:16 I mean it was particular because there were 06:17 probably many deaths that occurred. 06:19 They wouldn't have occurred otherwise 06:21 had they hear of it. That's right. 06:22 Because people are interested in how to 06:24 prevent this disease and how to 06:25 reverse it as well. That's right, 06:27 so I'm, I'm happy you're here talking about it, 06:28 let's talk then about the, the affects that 06:31 it has on these different areas 06:33 of the body that you, atherosclerosis 06:37 or heart disease. Yeah, well atherosclerosis 06:39 comes from two Greek words; 06:41 Athero means mushy, and sclerosis means hard. 06:46 And so, literally it means the mushy hard 06:49 disease and it's actually not a bad 06:51 illustration because it starts out with 06:53 something mushy, which is fat 06:55 and cholesterol being deposit in the 06:58 blood vessels and then calcium comes 07:00 along later and hardens it up and it can become 07:03 quite hard and it can start to 07:05 obstruct arteries. Okay. As far as the arteries 07:09 that are affected from it, it can affect 07:11 any artery in the body. So, whether small 07:15 or large any artery and capillary 07:17 and vessel probably as well. 07:18 Yeah, primarily it's going to affect the 07:20 high pressure arteries, so it's going to affect 07:22 the large blood vessels primarily, 07:24 but it can also affect the medium blood vessels 07:27 and even some smaller blood vessels, 07:29 but it affects the blood vessels 07:30 going to the brain of course that can cause 07:32 a stroke, but even before it causes 07:34 a stroke it can cause a decrease in brain 07:38 functions just because of its limiting 07:40 brain blood flow. And so what, what are 07:43 we talking about a decrease in brain 07:44 function like how much or there are 07:45 any numbers? Well, we do have 07:47 some, some graphic that talks about the brain 07:51 and atherosclerosis. As plaque 07:54 build-up increased in several studies overall 07:59 thinking ability decreased, 08:01 also the attention levels decreased 08:06 and the mental reactions speed fell, 08:08 and moreover, high levels of plaque 08:12 build-up on initial evaluation predict 08:15 a more rapid decline in memory ability. 08:17 So, it's going to affect your memory, 08:19 it's going to affect your analytical ability, 08:21 it's also going to affect your 08:23 reaction time. And unfortunately 08:25 this is what tends to happen when people age 08:27 that's why real old drivers tend not to be 08:31 a very safe drivers. Actually in coming here 08:34 today there was almost an accident caused 08:37 by an individual that was in the left lane 08:39 going very slow, limited vision obviously 08:43 tunnel vision, not looking at anything else 08:45 around her, but elderly in nature, 08:48 her reaction time was down, 08:49 her analytical ability, her ability to gather 08:52 information was down and she was a danger 08:54 being on the road. And I can tell you 08:57 it wasn't due to her age, it was due to 08:58 atherosclerosis that's what, 09:01 what had caused that. Now, we talk about 09:03 this with older folks and what not so 09:05 then the people that are young that are watching 09:06 say I don't have to worry about. 09:08 Does this affect anybody's mental ability 09:10 if they're in their teens or if 09:12 they're in their 20s or if they're in their 30s? 09:14 Well, you know the fatty streaks can begin 09:17 in infancy actually depending on how 09:19 infants are eating and they all began 09:24 at that time, not enough to really decrease 09:26 the blood flow at that point. 09:28 Usually you have to be in your 20s or 30s 09:31 before you start getting a significant reduction 09:33 in blood flow from it building 09:35 up to that level. Although it has happened 09:38 in people as you know, late teenagers. 09:41 Heart attacks occur every day 09:42 in this country and people 09:43 that are in their late teens. 09:44 But what about mental abilities? 09:46 Are those affected before you have 09:47 the heart attack or something? Yes, 09:51 they can be. The mental abilities can be 09:54 affected in the 20s and 30s, and of course, 09:57 if it's affected then, then watch out 09:58 because if the individual doesn't 10:00 change their diet and lifestyle 10:01 they're gonna run into a significant 10:04 decline in their 40s, 50s, 60s. 10:07 Now, someone tells me that you know, 10:08 when you're in your teens and, 10:09 and what not you can get away with some 10:11 bad food up to a point, but then someone 10:13 you are 20s, your aorta is 10:15 really affected, is that right? 10:16 Well, it's an accumulation really, 10:19 okay, and so the teenage year starts to process 10:22 and then it just accumulates 10:24 further in the 20s. Well, what about the fatty 10:27 streaks in the aorta? Talk to us a little bit. 10:29 What is the aorta and what happens in it? 10:33 Well, actually I have a diagram of an 10:37 atherosclerotic plaque that could occur anywhere 10:39 in a carotid artery that supplies the brain or 10:42 in the aorta. And you can see 10:44 the artery wall what started the process 10:46 off is the yellow there in the middle, 10:48 those are the cholesterol crystals and that in 10:51 order to protect the body from that cholesterol, 10:55 plaque that's there. The body actually 10:57 forms a smooth muscle layer above that with 11:01 a small fibrous cap and that will decrease the 11:04 blood flow, but it won't 11:05 plug off the blood vessel until that 11:07 ulceration occurs, if you can see 11:09 that individual's fibrous plaque got ulcerated, 11:13 inflammation can do that. And when that 11:15 ulceration occurs platelets form which are 11:18 clotting agent in the entire vessel 11:20 can block off. So, you can get a blood 11:22 vessel for instance it's only 20% blocked and 11:26 if it an ulcerated plaque occurs then a sudden 11:28 heart attack occurs. And so just because you 11:32 have blockages less than 50% on an angiogram, 11:35 doesn't mean that you're, you're home free as far 11:38 as not having heart attack. 11:40 So, explain that also, I mean the underline thing 11:42 is the cholesterol crystals that buildup there 11:44 as a result of diet or oxidized cholesterol 11:48 whatever it would be and then the, 11:51 the ulcerated event, what causes that you 11:54 said inflammation? Yes, when you have 11:56 inflammation it's more risky. 11:58 For instance, people tend to get 11:59 heart attacks for instance when they 12:01 have a cold, or when they 12:03 have pneumonia. We've had many 12:04 individuals come into the hospital for pneumonia 12:07 and the day later they have a heart attack. 12:09 And that's because one of those plaques 12:11 gets ulcerated. That's right, 12:13 the inflammation from the pneumonia made 12:15 it more easy for that plaque to ulcerate. 12:17 People with arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis 12:19 for instance they're much more likely to rupture 12:22 an ulcerated plaque. And really anything 12:25 that's going to cause inflammation in the body, 12:27 as physician we measure it by looking at 12:29 two things, a C-reactive protein. 12:32 The higher that number is the, 12:34 the greater the inflammation in the 12:36 body and the sedimentation rate. 12:38 And so, we can get an idea and both of those 12:40 are actually risk factors for heart attack. 12:42 It's the cholesterol that really causes 12:46 the risk factor, but the final end 12:49 point is the inflammation. But you can have a 12:51 huge amount inflammation and never run into a 12:54 rupture plaque if you don't have a plaque 12:56 there to begin with. And that's why we really 12:59 want to prevent because none of us are going 13:01 to able to completely eliminate inflammation. 13:04 By the way, dental carries as 13:06 well dental cavities. When you have the 13:09 bacteria there and they're feasting on your gums, 13:12 periodontal disease that can cause inflammation 13:15 and that's why periodontal disease has been 13:17 associated with heart attacks and stokes 13:20 because of that inflammation. 13:22 Interesting now someone tells me that when 13:24 someone's an obese person they're in a constant 13:27 state of inflammation, is that true? 13:29 Obesity does raise the C-reactive protein 13:32 a little bit. And so, 13:33 when we measure it on the blood, 13:35 in the bloodstream, obesity is associates with 13:38 inflammation. We're talking with 13:40 Dr. Neil Nedley, we're talking about 13:41 heart disease, we've talked about how 13:43 dangerous it is, we've talked the fact that 13:45 it can began even when we're very young. 13:47 When we come back we'll continue our discussion 13:49 and hopefully have some good news, 13:51 it is good news because we can prevent 13:53 and avoid it, but how can we do that? 13:55 Join us when we come back. 13:59 Are you confused about the endless stream of 14:01 new and often contradictory 14:03 health information, with companies trying 14:06 to sell new drugs and special interest groups 14:08 paying for studies that spin the facts, 14:11 where can you find a common sense approach 14:13 to health? 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We've been talking about 15:02 heart disease and we've been talking about the 15:04 magnitude of the problem at least in the 15:07 West and it is also the number one killer, 15:10 if you look around the world. 15:12 And we've been talking about what can happen 15:14 to our aorta, our brain? 15:16 And Dr. Nedley what else do we need to say 15:19 about these areas of the body? 15:23 Well, I mean it can cause an aortic rupture, 15:25 it can cause kidney failure, 15:27 it can cause lose of limb, when the blood vessels 15:30 are blocked in the legs? And there is a lot of 15:32 problems that people are suffering from and being 15:35 hospitalized for, that they don't 15:36 recognize the root cause being atherosclerosis. 15:39 Okay, so this is the mushy heart disease that 15:41 goes from that mushy girl to something that's 15:43 sclerotic or hard. Right. 15:45 And what are the numbers? We probably need to 15:48 know our numbers. Well, the cholesterol 15:50 is a big number. And we have a 15:52 graphic that describes the cholesterol in the 15:56 blood and its risk for heart attack. 15:59 And once the cholesterol gets above a 150 16:01 your risk significantly goes up that's higher 16:04 160 then it is a 150, 200 it's gone up over 16:08 twice as much over someone with 150 and a lot 16:11 of people think they're fine at 195 16:13 cholesterol reading, they're not. 16:15 They really need to get it down further. 16:17 And then you can see as it goes up further it's 16:19 an exponentially increase by the time you're 16:21 up to 280 eighteen times the risk of death 16:26 from heart attack. So, and that one said, 16:29 it was two times, four times, six times, 16:30 eight times the risk. Right. Just by that. 16:33 Just by that incremental increase in the 16:35 cholesterol level. So, someone tells me 16:37 every point your cholesterol increases 16:39 is to 2 to 3% increase and the risk of death 16:43 from heart attack. That's right, yeah. 16:45 Okay, so really those numbers, 16:47 knowing your numbers is part of the game. 16:49 Knowing your numbers is part of the game 16:51 and then trying to get your numbers under 16:53 control which of course is possible. 16:56 So, what is the single most affective way to get 17:00 your numbers under control? 17:02 Well, it's a multifaceted approach. Okay. 17:06 We don't recommend just one way I mean some 17:08 cardiologist might say taking a Statin drug is 17:11 the single most important thing that you can do. 17:14 Those Statins have side effects and you can 17:16 lower your cholesterol level by diet and 17:18 lifestyle as well as a Statin. 17:21 Now, the problem is most people aren't being 17:23 told how they can do it. They're just told to 17:25 take the skin off the chicken, 17:27 use low fat dairy instead of high fat dairy 17:30 and their cholesterol levels will go down about 17:32 6% by doing that, but not 30 to 40% it 17:37 really needs to go down to make 17:38 a huge difference, and that you can 17:41 do by diet. Our screen, 17:45 we have a graphic that shows cholesterol 17:48 in foods. The more cholesterol 17:50 we eat in the foods the greater our cholesterol 17:53 gets in the bloodstream. You can see fruits, 17:56 grains and nuts and vegetables, 17:57 zero cholesterol. If you want to know 18:00 whether it's something as cholesterol in it, 18:01 read the ingredients if it's just plant foods 18:03 has no cholesterol. Skimmed milk 18:06 still has some, a lot of people think 18:08 skimmed milk doesn't has 45 mg, 18:10 2%, milk 18 mg, whole milk 33 mg, 18:15 and so a dairy comes from an animal anything that 18:17 is an animal or comes from an animal has 18:19 cholesterol in it. And then we have 18:22 higher sources of cholesterol and of course 18:25 those would be the meat themselves and we have 18:28 a graphic in regards to that as well. Okay, 18:31 so we have what's the highest meat source 18:35 of cholesterol? Well, you can see get, 18:38 before we get to the meat there, 18:41 Ice cream 29 mg, butter just a 18:43 tablespoon 31 mg, but look at eggs that 18:47 would be the egg yolk because the egg white 18:49 actually has the one exceptional role, 18:51 doesn't have cholesterol in it. 18:52 But egg yolks 213 mg of cholesterol, 18:57 huge amount and that's why we tell people, 18:58 if they're going to eat eggs they really ought 19:01 to throw the yolk away and just eat the whites. 19:04 Then we have tuna. A lot of people think 19:06 tuna is part of the plant kingdom. 19:08 I had run into a lot of people who think that 19:10 fish is part of a vegetarian diet. 19:13 Fish is part of the animal kingdom, 19:14 it has cholesterol in it and 19:16 study-after-study shows, if you're a healthy 19:18 vegetarian you add fish to your diet, 19:20 your cholesterol goes up. Tuna 26 mg per serving, 19:24 clams 57 mg, crab 64 mg and 19:27 then we have the regular meats that most 19:31 people are eating graft as well. 19:33 So, that would be like pork, 19:35 beef, chicken. Right, you can 19:39 see chicken breast, that's without the skin 19:41 and the fat scraped off 73 mg, 19:44 if it has the skin and the fat 82 mg, 19:47 which is actually a little higher than pork 19:49 and beef? You can see 19:50 pork 76 mg per serving, beef 80 mg per serving. 19:54 A lot of people aren't aware of that 19:55 chicken has much cholesterol, 19:56 most people are told to eat chicken, 19:57 if they have a high cholesterol level. 19:59 That's right, they are. 20:00 And that's not gonna work very well. 20:02 And then you can see the real high ones 20:04 are shrimp 165, the organ meats are high, 20:08 beef kidney 329, beef liver 410, Caviar 500. 20:13 And if you see anyone feasting on beef brains 20:15 you have to wonder about their intentions 20:18 just 1, 3 oz serving 1697 mg. 20:23 People actually eat that beef brains. 20:25 Well, I wouldn't recommend it, not only 20:27 is it high in cholesterol, 20:28 but you know if you want to avoid 20:30 some of the fat disease that could come 20:33 with beef brain you would not want to 20:35 eat it, it's actually not recommended to anybody 20:37 to it eat anymore. But they're used to. 20:39 They're used to and unfortunately, 20:41 there are still people doing it. 20:42 Amazing, now you know, 20:44 you a little bit earlier just a back you said, 20:46 really people need to know about these foods 20:50 because you can really lower your cholesterol, 20:52 sometimes as much as Statin medication, right, 20:55 but let's say you have 300 cholesterol 20:58 or 240 or 260 they come to your office. 21:01 Will you put them on the Statin short term 21:02 until they get, get it down, 21:04 is it something that should be done? 21:06 Well, not necessarily I'll see how 21:08 motivated the individual is to act on 21:11 the information that I give them. 21:12 And I'll give them the opportunity for a good, 21:15 better, best diet. The best diet for preventing 21:17 coronary artery disease is a totally 21:19 plant-based diet that has no cholesterol in it. 21:21 And that is difficult for most people to be 21:26 able to transition do immediately without 21:28 some instruction. So, we have cooking 21:30 schools and we have different didactic 21:33 instructions where they can learn how to cook 21:36 some very tasty dishes. And if they're willing 21:40 to do that, their families is willing 21:41 to cooperate with that, 21:42 they won't need a Statin drug even off 21:44 the bat, we can lower the cholesterol level 21:46 60 points in about 3 weeks. 21:48 We can lower it about 90 points in about 21:51 6 weeks by getting on an ideal program. 21:54 Just by the diet. Just by the diet, yeah. 21:57 So, you know some of these things are 21:59 on your website resources 22:00 www.nedleypublishing.org, or its com 22:05 or www.drnedley.com. Drnedley.com, yeah, 22:12 and so these resources like the book proof 22:14 positive and some of these other things 22:15 and then I think you have you know 22:18 other things that can specifically help 22:19 with the nutritional things. Right, yes, 22:22 and of course we have cookbooks and recipes 22:24 that go long with it. You know once you, 22:25 you know, a lot of people think 22:27 you're gonna sacrifice taste doing this, 22:28 but once you can make the food, 22:32 we really just need to retrain the cooks. 22:34 Once we can make the food and have it tasty, 22:38 there is no reason to go back to the other 22:39 way of eating. And so, we try to 22:41 teach these people maybe 6 or 8 dishes, 22:43 kind of amazing how little variety 22:46 the average American has in their diet, 22:47 they eat a lot of times at the same restaurant, 22:49 order the same foods of the menu and 22:53 if they can switch those over to 6 or 8 very 22:56 good recipes that's a good start, 22:58 and that's now a whole lot to learn. Right, 23:00 so we give them 200 recipes and certainly 23:02 6 to 8 of them they'll like. Exactly and then 23:05 if they like them, they can repeat that 23:06 and start noticing the benefits. 23:08 Anything else that you would give people 23:11 they came to your store, your health food store. 23:13 Well, we would try to get them on higher 23:15 polyunsaturated fat and lower saturated fat. 23:17 Saturated fat increases the liver's production 23:20 of cholesterol. Polyunsaturated fat 23:22 is going to lower it and so the more liquid 23:24 the fat the more your cholesterol goes down. 23:26 And so, foods like almonds for instance, 23:29 very good at lowering cholesterol, 23:30 walnuts very good at lowering cholesterol, 23:32 Pecans good at lowering cholesterol. 23:35 Where some plant fats, even know they 23:37 don't have cholesterol can raise it like 23:39 coconut oil for instance, or palm kernel oil. 23:41 Interesting, and again these, these things 23:44 are in, in, in your book proof positive I think. 23:47 Yes, but then another factor Don that 23:49 and this is one that a lot of America has not 23:51 caught up with it, I think this is why 23:53 it's good that you're listening to this program. 23:55 A Bruce Taylor study didn't get a lot of 23:57 publicity, but it really needed to because 24:00 it really helps to confirm other studies 24:02 and why it happen? Bruce Taylor was a 24:04 pathologist in New York and the medical students 24:07 were doing studies on rabbits and monkeys. 24:10 They fed them Bruce Taylor's cholesterol 24:12 that had been exposed to the air 24:14 and it had been, in a large bucket all of them 24:17 developed galloping atherosclerosis 24:19 within just a few weeks. Oh! 24:22 This was a Bruce Taylor's actual 24:23 own personal cholesterol, 24:24 this was a vat that he had right? 24:26 That's right. Okay. Yeah. Okay, good. 24:28 I was gonna say poor Bruce. 24:29 And so they fed it to them, 24:32 they fed it to them. Yes, 24:33 and it plug the arteries quicker 24:35 and they thought it would. So, then the 24:38 Bruce Taylor got you know, 24:40 he was wondering why it plugged it off so much, 24:42 so he fed them pure cholesterol 24:43 that had never been exposed to the air 24:45 to rabbits and monkeys, none of them 24:47 developed atherosclerosis. 24:49 So, pure not oxidized cholesterol 24:51 is not toxic. However, 24:53 when we eat foods it's been oxidized; 24:55 it's been exposed to the air. 24:56 And so that any one to next step 24:58 to see which foods were the damaging. 25:00 He would count the dead cells in the 25:02 aorta from these plaques, 25:03 24 hours after they were consumed. 25:06 And we have a graphic on the foods 25:09 that were most damaging. 25:10 The fist most damaging was custard 25:13 and the most commonly consume custard 25:15 is ice cream. Whenever you put sugar, 25:17 milk, eggs together in the same ingredient, 25:20 the sugar really helps to oxidized that. 25:23 Pancake mix you have that egg yolk 25:25 being powered up, you're oxidizing 25:27 that cholesterol, third most damaging 25:29 Parmesan cheese which is powered 25:31 in cheese and that tied with lard as being 25:33 the third most damaging cholesterol. And so, 25:36 it's not just the cholesterol content of 25:38 the foods that we eat, 25:39 oxidized cholesterol, 25:40 but the oxidized cholesterol. 25:41 And this helped to explain something else. 25:43 We talked about an infancy; 25:45 people developing fatty streaks children. 25:47 They've done autopsies on these children, 25:49 if they die from siege or an auto accident. 25:52 Some mothers the way they eat, 25:54 they have more cholesterol in their 25:56 human breast milk then what cows do? 25:58 Which group do you think had the fatty 26:00 streaks the one consuming cow's milk 26:02 or human breast milk? Well, 26:05 you're gonna tell me. Actually 26:07 it was the one consuming cow's milk even 26:09 though it was lowering cholesterol. 26:11 The reason the way most infants consume 26:13 human breast milk is directly from the nipple, 26:16 it's not exposed to the air 26:18 and so it's not toxic, it's not oxidized. 26:21 And so the best way for you to drink 26:23 your cow's milk would be to go down 26:26 to the barn and get it straight, 26:27 but we have, if you're gonna do that, 26:29 recommend that either. No, that's right. 26:31 Now, you have a quote here that 26:33 I think was fascinating me over a 26:35 hundred years ago by Ellen White. 26:37 Yeah, she said, "Especially harmful 26:40 are the custards and puddings in 26:41 which milk, eggs, and sugar are the chief 26:43 ingredients. The free use of milk 26:45 and sugar together should be avoided." 26:47 And of course the reason for that 26:48 is these very toxic cholesterol molecules 26:52 that are produced in the process developing 26:55 atherosclerosis and progressing 26:57 atherosclerosis. What you know people 27:01 are changing habits and these foods 27:03 are probably highly addictive as well. 27:05 What spiritual tip do you share with 27:08 your patients? Well, one of the spiritual 27:12 tips is as not good to use much honey, 27:13 Proverbs for instance says that, 27:17 but also that we can overcome 27:19 with the power of God. God can give us 27:22 the information to change our life 27:23 and can give us the power to change our life 27:26 for the better. And He wants us 27:27 to be healthy; He doesn't want us 27:28 to be sick or die prematurely. 27:30 We've been talking with Dr. Neil Nedley, 27:32 talking about heart disease. 27:34 And I hope that you have gotten some 27:36 very good information here that will lead to 27:39 decisions that can save not only your life, 27:42 but the lives of others. We have more need 27:45 for information, contact this here at 3ABN. 27:47 We'll get you in touch with Dr. Nedley or 27:49 go to his website www.nedleypublishing.com 27:54 and we hope that as a result, 27:56 you'll have Health that last For a Lifetime. |
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