Health for a Lifetime

Heart Pt. 1

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Participants: Don Mackintosh (Host), Neil Nedley

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00:03 designed to promote good health
00:04 and is not intended to take the place of
00:06 personalized professional care.
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00:50 Hello and welcome to Health For A Lifetime.
00:52 I'm your host Don Mackintosh.
00:53 We're glad that you're with us today.
00:55 And if you are with us today you have a
00:56 heart and that heart is beating,
00:58 and that's why you're alive, but many
01:00 people in America and around the world
01:02 are struggling with heart disease and
01:04 talking with us today about this, number one
01:07 killer at least here in America is
01:08 Dr. Neil Nedley. Is it still number one
01:10 or has cancer overtaken it? Well, it's still
01:12 number one overall. If you take a look
01:15 at age 85 and younger cancer is number one.
01:19 Okay. Now, if you're taking a look at
01:21 atherosclerosis in general it would still be
01:25 number one even under the age of 85,
01:28 but if you're just looking at coronary
01:30 artery disease, which used to be called
01:33 the number one killer often, it's still
01:36 as number one overall, but and less than 85
01:38 cancer is your greatest likelihood of death.
01:41 Okay, so let's look at some of those
01:42 numbers maybe you, we can get a handle
01:45 on what's happening at least in the West.
01:47 Yeah, well as you can see 50 million
01:50 Americans have high blood pressure
01:52 and that's one of the precursors to artery
01:54 disease as well as stroke
01:57 and heart attack, 12.6 million have coronary
02:00 artery disease and 4.6 million
02:04 have had a stroke and survived it.
02:07 There is 1 death every 33 seconds
02:12 from atherosclerosis, 40% of all deaths
02:15 are currently from cardiovascular
02:17 disease in this country and the costs
02:20 are astounding. The latest figure we have
02:23 its 2001, but almost $300 billion spend
02:28 in health care cost on atherosclerosis,
02:31 that's a pretty phenomenal figure.
02:34 Man, and largely avoidable. That's right.
02:37 We know enough about this disease
02:39 that we can prevent it in over 90% of cases,
02:42 if people would follow what we recommend.
02:47 Ninety percent, so that would take
02:48 that $300 billion down to, 30 billion.
02:51 Yeah. Yeah, it would be down to a,
02:54 a very low health care cost. And probably
02:57 we wouldn't have spent that much money
02:58 research at that point, but still largely
03:02 preventable. Largely preventable,
03:05 yeah high blood pressure also largely
03:07 preventable and then the other risk factors
03:10 that are cigarette smoking still prevalent
03:14 in some sections of the country, 20% of
03:17 Americans still smoke and then high
03:20 cholesterol, which is even much more
03:22 prevalent? So, I mean we know so much
03:25 about it, we hear about it in the news at
03:27 least here in the West. Why is it still such
03:29 a significant problem? Number 1,
03:33 people aren't getting informed as to
03:35 what causes it to a broad scale and that's
03:37 the reason for a program such as today
03:40 where we can get the information
03:42 out there. We actually have enough
03:44 information to know how to virtually
03:46 eliminate this disease now.
03:48 And you know, when you consider the,
03:49 the figures for it you know, one death
03:52 every 33 seconds you know, you would
03:55 add up the amount of deaths in one day
03:57 from atherosclerosis and that would be
04:03 like several jumbo jets going down.
04:04 If we had just jumbo jet going down
04:06 once a year we would think that was
04:08 too much and we would put all sorts of
04:11 money into the FAA and into doing
04:13 everything we could to prevent those deaths
04:17 whether it's better pilot training
04:18 or whether it's better equipment on the
04:21 airplanes, but here we have the equivalent
04:24 of about 4 jumbo jets going down
04:26 every day as far as the amount of
04:29 deaths are concerned. And no one
04:31 seems to be all that concerned about it.
04:34 Yeah, that is interesting I mean,
04:35 look if you have a, a military conflict,
04:38 many times the news media will say,
04:39 alright it up to this number or that
04:41 number in, even if it's one or two or if
04:44 there is a some kind of serial killer
04:47 that has struck, oh! No it's up to 8 people
04:51 or 12 people and it's all over the headlines.
04:53 Yeah, exactly. But with this.
04:56 One death every 33 seconds
04:57 and people call it "Natural."
04:59 And the reason they do that is because
05:01 they don't want to hear bad news about
05:03 their bad habits. Well, I think
05:06 that's a big part of it too.
05:07 And the other part of it is there is still
05:09 general ignorance out there in regards to
05:12 the fact of this disease is preventable.
05:14 You know, I was doing an interview with
05:16 another physician in a, in a city of about
05:18 400,000, 500,000 people, and the man got off
05:22 the plane, he said exactly what you said,
05:24 but he had some very telling illustrations
05:26 that went along with it. And I, I, I called up
05:30 the news media and they were there to talk
05:32 to him right after we got out of the airport,
05:34 we went right to the news outlet.
05:36 He shared that he could prevent
05:39 and he said well, how would this, this happen?
05:41 He said, well he just start to talk about
05:43 some of the habits, never got on the news
05:46 anywhere, no one wanted to. Yes,
05:48 that's right. This person was an Olympic
05:50 gold medalist; this person was eminently
05:53 qualified at a, at a medical school out East,
05:56 Yale University. He had you know,
06:00 not secondary research reports,
06:02 but primary research he had done.
06:04 And this, this part of the country because
06:07 it was high in consumption of the foods
06:09 that he was talking again,
06:10 never made it anywhere. Wow! That's shocking,
06:14 and it's really appalling. Really,
06:16 I mean it was particular because there were
06:17 probably many deaths that occurred.
06:19 They wouldn't have occurred otherwise
06:21 had they hear of it. That's right.
06:22 Because people are interested in how to
06:24 prevent this disease and how to
06:25 reverse it as well. That's right,
06:27 so I'm, I'm happy you're here talking about it,
06:28 let's talk then about the, the affects that
06:31 it has on these different areas
06:33 of the body that you, atherosclerosis
06:37 or heart disease. Yeah, well atherosclerosis
06:39 comes from two Greek words;
06:41 Athero means mushy, and sclerosis means hard.
06:46 And so, literally it means the mushy hard
06:49 disease and it's actually not a bad
06:51 illustration because it starts out with
06:53 something mushy, which is fat
06:55 and cholesterol being deposit in the
06:58 blood vessels and then calcium comes
07:00 along later and hardens it up and it can become
07:03 quite hard and it can start to
07:05 obstruct arteries. Okay. As far as the arteries
07:09 that are affected from it, it can affect
07:11 any artery in the body. So, whether small
07:15 or large any artery and capillary
07:17 and vessel probably as well.
07:18 Yeah, primarily it's going to affect the
07:20 high pressure arteries, so it's going to affect
07:22 the large blood vessels primarily,
07:24 but it can also affect the medium blood vessels
07:27 and even some smaller blood vessels,
07:29 but it affects the blood vessels
07:30 going to the brain of course that can cause
07:32 a stroke, but even before it causes
07:34 a stroke it can cause a decrease in brain
07:38 functions just because of its limiting
07:40 brain blood flow. And so what, what are
07:43 we talking about a decrease in brain
07:44 function like how much or there are
07:45 any numbers? Well, we do have
07:47 some, some graphic that talks about the brain
07:51 and atherosclerosis. As plaque
07:54 build-up increased in several studies overall
07:59 thinking ability decreased,
08:01 also the attention levels decreased
08:06 and the mental reactions speed fell,
08:08 and moreover, high levels of plaque
08:12 build-up on initial evaluation predict
08:15 a more rapid decline in memory ability.
08:17 So, it's going to affect your memory,
08:19 it's going to affect your analytical ability,
08:21 it's also going to affect your
08:23 reaction time. And unfortunately
08:25 this is what tends to happen when people age
08:27 that's why real old drivers tend not to be
08:31 a very safe drivers. Actually in coming here
08:34 today there was almost an accident caused
08:37 by an individual that was in the left lane
08:39 going very slow, limited vision obviously
08:43 tunnel vision, not looking at anything else
08:45 around her, but elderly in nature,
08:48 her reaction time was down,
08:49 her analytical ability, her ability to gather
08:52 information was down and she was a danger
08:54 being on the road. And I can tell you
08:57 it wasn't due to her age, it was due to
08:58 atherosclerosis that's what,
09:01 what had caused that. Now, we talk about
09:03 this with older folks and what not so
09:05 then the people that are young that are watching
09:06 say I don't have to worry about.
09:08 Does this affect anybody's mental ability
09:10 if they're in their teens or if
09:12 they're in their 20s or if they're in their 30s?
09:14 Well, you know the fatty streaks can begin
09:17 in infancy actually depending on how
09:19 infants are eating and they all began
09:24 at that time, not enough to really decrease
09:26 the blood flow at that point.
09:28 Usually you have to be in your 20s or 30s
09:31 before you start getting a significant reduction
09:33 in blood flow from it building
09:35 up to that level. Although it has happened
09:38 in people as you know, late teenagers.
09:41 Heart attacks occur every day
09:42 in this country and people
09:43 that are in their late teens.
09:44 But what about mental abilities?
09:46 Are those affected before you have
09:47 the heart attack or something? Yes,
09:51 they can be. The mental abilities can be
09:54 affected in the 20s and 30s, and of course,
09:57 if it's affected then, then watch out
09:58 because if the individual doesn't
10:00 change their diet and lifestyle
10:01 they're gonna run into a significant
10:04 decline in their 40s, 50s, 60s.
10:07 Now, someone tells me that you know,
10:08 when you're in your teens and,
10:09 and what not you can get away with some
10:11 bad food up to a point, but then someone
10:13 you are 20s, your aorta is
10:15 really affected, is that right?
10:16 Well, it's an accumulation really,
10:19 okay, and so the teenage year starts to process
10:22 and then it just accumulates
10:24 further in the 20s. Well, what about the fatty
10:27 streaks in the aorta? Talk to us a little bit.
10:29 What is the aorta and what happens in it?
10:33 Well, actually I have a diagram of an
10:37 atherosclerotic plaque that could occur anywhere
10:39 in a carotid artery that supplies the brain or
10:42 in the aorta. And you can see
10:44 the artery wall what started the process
10:46 off is the yellow there in the middle,
10:48 those are the cholesterol crystals and that in
10:51 order to protect the body from that cholesterol,
10:55 plaque that's there. The body actually
10:57 forms a smooth muscle layer above that with
11:01 a small fibrous cap and that will decrease the
11:04 blood flow, but it won't
11:05 plug off the blood vessel until that
11:07 ulceration occurs, if you can see
11:09 that individual's fibrous plaque got ulcerated,
11:13 inflammation can do that. And when that
11:15 ulceration occurs platelets form which are
11:18 clotting agent in the entire vessel
11:20 can block off. So, you can get a blood
11:22 vessel for instance it's only 20% blocked and
11:26 if it an ulcerated plaque occurs then a sudden
11:28 heart attack occurs. And so just because you
11:32 have blockages less than 50% on an angiogram,
11:35 doesn't mean that you're, you're home free as far
11:38 as not having heart attack.
11:40 So, explain that also, I mean the underline thing
11:42 is the cholesterol crystals that buildup there
11:44 as a result of diet or oxidized cholesterol
11:48 whatever it would be and then the,
11:51 the ulcerated event, what causes that you
11:54 said inflammation? Yes, when you have
11:56 inflammation it's more risky.
11:58 For instance, people tend to get
11:59 heart attacks for instance when they
12:01 have a cold, or when they
12:03 have pneumonia. We've had many
12:04 individuals come into the hospital for pneumonia
12:07 and the day later they have a heart attack.
12:09 And that's because one of those plaques
12:11 gets ulcerated. That's right,
12:13 the inflammation from the pneumonia made
12:15 it more easy for that plaque to ulcerate.
12:17 People with arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis
12:19 for instance they're much more likely to rupture
12:22 an ulcerated plaque. And really anything
12:25 that's going to cause inflammation in the body,
12:27 as physician we measure it by looking at
12:29 two things, a C-reactive protein.
12:32 The higher that number is the,
12:34 the greater the inflammation in the
12:36 body and the sedimentation rate.
12:38 And so, we can get an idea and both of those
12:40 are actually risk factors for heart attack.
12:42 It's the cholesterol that really causes
12:46 the risk factor, but the final end
12:49 point is the inflammation. But you can have a
12:51 huge amount inflammation and never run into a
12:54 rupture plaque if you don't have a plaque
12:56 there to begin with. And that's why we really
12:59 want to prevent because none of us are going
13:01 to able to completely eliminate inflammation.
13:04 By the way, dental carries as
13:06 well dental cavities. When you have the
13:09 bacteria there and they're feasting on your gums,
13:12 periodontal disease that can cause inflammation
13:15 and that's why periodontal disease has been
13:17 associated with heart attacks and stokes
13:20 because of that inflammation.
13:22 Interesting now someone tells me that when
13:24 someone's an obese person they're in a constant
13:27 state of inflammation, is that true?
13:29 Obesity does raise the C-reactive protein
13:32 a little bit. And so,
13:33 when we measure it on the blood,
13:35 in the bloodstream, obesity is associates with
13:38 inflammation. We're talking with
13:40 Dr. Neil Nedley, we're talking about
13:41 heart disease, we've talked about how
13:43 dangerous it is, we've talked the fact that
13:45 it can began even when we're very young.
13:47 When we come back we'll continue our discussion
13:49 and hopefully have some good news,
13:51 it is good news because we can prevent
13:53 and avoid it, but how can we do that?
13:55 Join us when we come back.
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14:58 Welcome back, we've been talking with
15:00 Dr. Neil Nedley. We've been talking about
15:02 heart disease and we've been talking about the
15:04 magnitude of the problem at least in the
15:07 West and it is also the number one killer,
15:10 if you look around the world.
15:12 And we've been talking about what can happen
15:14 to our aorta, our brain?
15:16 And Dr. Nedley what else do we need to say
15:19 about these areas of the body?
15:23 Well, I mean it can cause an aortic rupture,
15:25 it can cause kidney failure,
15:27 it can cause lose of limb, when the blood vessels
15:30 are blocked in the legs? And there is a lot of
15:32 problems that people are suffering from and being
15:35 hospitalized for, that they don't
15:36 recognize the root cause being atherosclerosis.
15:39 Okay, so this is the mushy heart disease that
15:41 goes from that mushy girl to something that's
15:43 sclerotic or hard. Right.
15:45 And what are the numbers? We probably need to
15:48 know our numbers. Well, the cholesterol
15:50 is a big number. And we have a
15:52 graphic that describes the cholesterol in the
15:56 blood and its risk for heart attack.
15:59 And once the cholesterol gets above a 150
16:01 your risk significantly goes up that's higher
16:04 160 then it is a 150, 200 it's gone up over
16:08 twice as much over someone with 150 and a lot
16:11 of people think they're fine at 195
16:13 cholesterol reading, they're not.
16:15 They really need to get it down further.
16:17 And then you can see as it goes up further it's
16:19 an exponentially increase by the time you're
16:21 up to 280 eighteen times the risk of death
16:26 from heart attack. So, and that one said,
16:29 it was two times, four times, six times,
16:30 eight times the risk. Right. Just by that.
16:33 Just by that incremental increase in the
16:35 cholesterol level. So, someone tells me
16:37 every point your cholesterol increases
16:39 is to 2 to 3% increase and the risk of death
16:43 from heart attack. That's right, yeah.
16:45 Okay, so really those numbers,
16:47 knowing your numbers is part of the game.
16:49 Knowing your numbers is part of the game
16:51 and then trying to get your numbers under
16:53 control which of course is possible.
16:56 So, what is the single most affective way to get
17:00 your numbers under control?
17:02 Well, it's a multifaceted approach. Okay.
17:06 We don't recommend just one way I mean some
17:08 cardiologist might say taking a Statin drug is
17:11 the single most important thing that you can do.
17:14 Those Statins have side effects and you can
17:16 lower your cholesterol level by diet and
17:18 lifestyle as well as a Statin.
17:21 Now, the problem is most people aren't being
17:23 told how they can do it. They're just told to
17:25 take the skin off the chicken,
17:27 use low fat dairy instead of high fat dairy
17:30 and their cholesterol levels will go down about
17:32 6% by doing that, but not 30 to 40% it
17:37 really needs to go down to make
17:38 a huge difference, and that you can
17:41 do by diet. Our screen,
17:45 we have a graphic that shows cholesterol
17:48 in foods. The more cholesterol
17:50 we eat in the foods the greater our cholesterol
17:53 gets in the bloodstream. You can see fruits,
17:56 grains and nuts and vegetables,
17:57 zero cholesterol. If you want to know
18:00 whether it's something as cholesterol in it,
18:01 read the ingredients if it's just plant foods
18:03 has no cholesterol. Skimmed milk
18:06 still has some, a lot of people think
18:08 skimmed milk doesn't has 45 mg,
18:10 2%, milk 18 mg, whole milk 33 mg,
18:15 and so a dairy comes from an animal anything that
18:17 is an animal or comes from an animal has
18:19 cholesterol in it. And then we have
18:22 higher sources of cholesterol and of course
18:25 those would be the meat themselves and we have
18:28 a graphic in regards to that as well. Okay,
18:31 so we have what's the highest meat source
18:35 of cholesterol? Well, you can see get,
18:38 before we get to the meat there,
18:41 Ice cream 29 mg, butter just a
18:43 tablespoon 31 mg, but look at eggs that
18:47 would be the egg yolk because the egg white
18:49 actually has the one exceptional role,
18:51 doesn't have cholesterol in it.
18:52 But egg yolks 213 mg of cholesterol,
18:57 huge amount and that's why we tell people,
18:58 if they're going to eat eggs they really ought
19:01 to throw the yolk away and just eat the whites.
19:04 Then we have tuna. A lot of people think
19:06 tuna is part of the plant kingdom.
19:08 I had run into a lot of people who think that
19:10 fish is part of a vegetarian diet.
19:13 Fish is part of the animal kingdom,
19:14 it has cholesterol in it and
19:16 study-after-study shows, if you're a healthy
19:18 vegetarian you add fish to your diet,
19:20 your cholesterol goes up. Tuna 26 mg per serving,
19:24 clams 57 mg, crab 64 mg and
19:27 then we have the regular meats that most
19:31 people are eating graft as well.
19:33 So, that would be like pork,
19:35 beef, chicken. Right, you can
19:39 see chicken breast, that's without the skin
19:41 and the fat scraped off 73 mg,
19:44 if it has the skin and the fat 82 mg,
19:47 which is actually a little higher than pork
19:49 and beef? You can see
19:50 pork 76 mg per serving, beef 80 mg per serving.
19:54 A lot of people aren't aware of that
19:55 chicken has much cholesterol,
19:56 most people are told to eat chicken,
19:57 if they have a high cholesterol level.
19:59 That's right, they are.
20:00 And that's not gonna work very well.
20:02 And then you can see the real high ones
20:04 are shrimp 165, the organ meats are high,
20:08 beef kidney 329, beef liver 410, Caviar 500.
20:13 And if you see anyone feasting on beef brains
20:15 you have to wonder about their intentions
20:18 just 1, 3 oz serving 1697 mg.
20:23 People actually eat that beef brains.
20:25 Well, I wouldn't recommend it, not only
20:27 is it high in cholesterol,
20:28 but you know if you want to avoid
20:30 some of the fat disease that could come
20:33 with beef brain you would not want to
20:35 eat it, it's actually not recommended to anybody
20:37 to it eat anymore. But they're used to.
20:39 They're used to and unfortunately,
20:41 there are still people doing it.
20:42 Amazing, now you know,
20:44 you a little bit earlier just a back you said,
20:46 really people need to know about these foods
20:50 because you can really lower your cholesterol,
20:52 sometimes as much as Statin medication, right,
20:55 but let's say you have 300 cholesterol
20:58 or 240 or 260 they come to your office.
21:01 Will you put them on the Statin short term
21:02 until they get, get it down,
21:04 is it something that should be done?
21:06 Well, not necessarily I'll see how
21:08 motivated the individual is to act on
21:11 the information that I give them.
21:12 And I'll give them the opportunity for a good,
21:15 better, best diet. The best diet for preventing
21:17 coronary artery disease is a totally
21:19 plant-based diet that has no cholesterol in it.
21:21 And that is difficult for most people to be
21:26 able to transition do immediately without
21:28 some instruction. So, we have cooking
21:30 schools and we have different didactic
21:33 instructions where they can learn how to cook
21:36 some very tasty dishes. And if they're willing
21:40 to do that, their families is willing
21:41 to cooperate with that,
21:42 they won't need a Statin drug even off
21:44 the bat, we can lower the cholesterol level
21:46 60 points in about 3 weeks.
21:48 We can lower it about 90 points in about
21:51 6 weeks by getting on an ideal program.
21:54 Just by the diet. Just by the diet, yeah.
21:57 So, you know some of these things are
21:59 on your website resources
22:00 www.nedleypublishing.org, or its com
22:05 or www.drnedley.com. Drnedley.com, yeah,
22:12 and so these resources like the book proof
22:14 positive and some of these other things
22:15 and then I think you have you know
22:18 other things that can specifically help
22:19 with the nutritional things. Right, yes,
22:22 and of course we have cookbooks and recipes
22:24 that go long with it. You know once you,
22:25 you know, a lot of people think
22:27 you're gonna sacrifice taste doing this,
22:28 but once you can make the food,
22:32 we really just need to retrain the cooks.
22:34 Once we can make the food and have it tasty,
22:38 there is no reason to go back to the other
22:39 way of eating. And so, we try to
22:41 teach these people maybe 6 or 8 dishes,
22:43 kind of amazing how little variety
22:46 the average American has in their diet,
22:47 they eat a lot of times at the same restaurant,
22:49 order the same foods of the menu and
22:53 if they can switch those over to 6 or 8 very
22:56 good recipes that's a good start,
22:58 and that's now a whole lot to learn. Right,
23:00 so we give them 200 recipes and certainly
23:02 6 to 8 of them they'll like. Exactly and then
23:05 if they like them, they can repeat that
23:06 and start noticing the benefits.
23:08 Anything else that you would give people
23:11 they came to your store, your health food store.
23:13 Well, we would try to get them on higher
23:15 polyunsaturated fat and lower saturated fat.
23:17 Saturated fat increases the liver's production
23:20 of cholesterol. Polyunsaturated fat
23:22 is going to lower it and so the more liquid
23:24 the fat the more your cholesterol goes down.
23:26 And so, foods like almonds for instance,
23:29 very good at lowering cholesterol,
23:30 walnuts very good at lowering cholesterol,
23:32 Pecans good at lowering cholesterol.
23:35 Where some plant fats, even know they
23:37 don't have cholesterol can raise it like
23:39 coconut oil for instance, or palm kernel oil.
23:41 Interesting, and again these, these things
23:44 are in, in, in your book proof positive I think.
23:47 Yes, but then another factor Don that
23:49 and this is one that a lot of America has not
23:51 caught up with it, I think this is why
23:53 it's good that you're listening to this program.
23:55 A Bruce Taylor study didn't get a lot of
23:57 publicity, but it really needed to because
24:00 it really helps to confirm other studies
24:02 and why it happen? Bruce Taylor was a
24:04 pathologist in New York and the medical students
24:07 were doing studies on rabbits and monkeys.
24:10 They fed them Bruce Taylor's cholesterol
24:12 that had been exposed to the air
24:14 and it had been, in a large bucket all of them
24:17 developed galloping atherosclerosis
24:19 within just a few weeks. Oh!
24:22 This was a Bruce Taylor's actual
24:23 own personal cholesterol,
24:24 this was a vat that he had right?
24:26 That's right. Okay. Yeah. Okay, good.
24:28 I was gonna say poor Bruce.
24:29 And so they fed it to them,
24:32 they fed it to them. Yes,
24:33 and it plug the arteries quicker
24:35 and they thought it would. So, then the
24:38 Bruce Taylor got you know,
24:40 he was wondering why it plugged it off so much,
24:42 so he fed them pure cholesterol
24:43 that had never been exposed to the air
24:45 to rabbits and monkeys, none of them
24:47 developed atherosclerosis.
24:49 So, pure not oxidized cholesterol
24:51 is not toxic. However,
24:53 when we eat foods it's been oxidized;
24:55 it's been exposed to the air.
24:56 And so that any one to next step
24:58 to see which foods were the damaging.
25:00 He would count the dead cells in the
25:02 aorta from these plaques,
25:03 24 hours after they were consumed.
25:06 And we have a graphic on the foods
25:09 that were most damaging.
25:10 The fist most damaging was custard
25:13 and the most commonly consume custard
25:15 is ice cream. Whenever you put sugar,
25:17 milk, eggs together in the same ingredient,
25:20 the sugar really helps to oxidized that.
25:23 Pancake mix you have that egg yolk
25:25 being powered up, you're oxidizing
25:27 that cholesterol, third most damaging
25:29 Parmesan cheese which is powered
25:31 in cheese and that tied with lard as being
25:33 the third most damaging cholesterol. And so,
25:36 it's not just the cholesterol content of
25:38 the foods that we eat,
25:39 oxidized cholesterol,
25:40 but the oxidized cholesterol.
25:41 And this helped to explain something else.
25:43 We talked about an infancy;
25:45 people developing fatty streaks children.
25:47 They've done autopsies on these children,
25:49 if they die from siege or an auto accident.
25:52 Some mothers the way they eat,
25:54 they have more cholesterol in their
25:56 human breast milk then what cows do?
25:58 Which group do you think had the fatty
26:00 streaks the one consuming cow's milk
26:02 or human breast milk? Well,
26:05 you're gonna tell me. Actually
26:07 it was the one consuming cow's milk even
26:09 though it was lowering cholesterol.
26:11 The reason the way most infants consume
26:13 human breast milk is directly from the nipple,
26:16 it's not exposed to the air
26:18 and so it's not toxic, it's not oxidized.
26:21 And so the best way for you to drink
26:23 your cow's milk would be to go down
26:26 to the barn and get it straight,
26:27 but we have, if you're gonna do that,
26:29 recommend that either. No, that's right.
26:31 Now, you have a quote here that
26:33 I think was fascinating me over a
26:35 hundred years ago by Ellen White.
26:37 Yeah, she said, "Especially harmful
26:40 are the custards and puddings in
26:41 which milk, eggs, and sugar are the chief
26:43 ingredients. The free use of milk
26:45 and sugar together should be avoided."
26:47 And of course the reason for that
26:48 is these very toxic cholesterol molecules
26:52 that are produced in the process developing
26:55 atherosclerosis and progressing
26:57 atherosclerosis. What you know people
27:01 are changing habits and these foods
27:03 are probably highly addictive as well.
27:05 What spiritual tip do you share with
27:08 your patients? Well, one of the spiritual
27:12 tips is as not good to use much honey,
27:13 Proverbs for instance says that,
27:17 but also that we can overcome
27:19 with the power of God. God can give us
27:22 the information to change our life
27:23 and can give us the power to change our life
27:26 for the better. And He wants us
27:27 to be healthy; He doesn't want us
27:28 to be sick or die prematurely.
27:30 We've been talking with Dr. Neil Nedley,
27:32 talking about heart disease.
27:34 And I hope that you have gotten some
27:36 very good information here that will lead to
27:39 decisions that can save not only your life,
27:42 but the lives of others. We have more need
27:45 for information, contact this here at 3ABN.
27:47 We'll get you in touch with Dr. Nedley or
27:49 go to his website www.nedleypublishing.com
27:54 and we hope that as a result,
27:56 you'll have Health that last For a Lifetime.


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