Healthy Living

Immune System: An Ounce of Prevention

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript

Participants: Margot Marshall (Host), Dr. John Clark, Jenifer Skues


Series Code: HL

Program Code: HL000008A

00:14 Welcome to "Healthy Living"
00:16 I'm your host Margot Marshall.
00:19 It's no fun being sick, having to fight off
00:21 viruses and infections, is it?
00:23 Stay tuned to discover things that strengthen our
00:26 immune system and things that weaken it.
01:03 With me in the studio is Jenifer Skues, a health psychologist,
01:07 and Dr. John Clark.
01:09 Welcome Jenifer and welcome John... thank you!
01:11 So good to have you on the program.
01:13 We've appreciated all you've done and now we're
01:15 talking about the immune system,
01:17 very, very important to keep us well. It is.
01:21 So John, what would you like to start off
01:23 with telling us about the immune system?
01:25 You know, when I was in high school, I had a teacher
01:30 who was like the dorm manager and he decided
01:35 he was going to go on a diet that was mostly
01:39 fresh fruits and vegetables.
01:41 I mean, this guy was eating basically raw food.
01:46 Now before this, he had been very sickly.
01:49 He'd have a cold every winter or the flu;
01:52 He'd have a lot of problems with congestion,
01:56 postnasal drip - he was a sickly kid.
01:59 When he changed and went to a total raw food diet,
02:04 his symptoms all went away!
02:07 He quit having colds and flues. Wow!
02:10 Well, I called him and talked to him not long ago and I said,
02:15 "How ya doing?" He said, "Well I'm doing great."
02:17 I said, "Are you still on like that raw food diet?"
02:19 And he said, "I sure am."
02:21 I said, "How is that going?"
02:22 And he said, "Well in 25 years, I've never missed a day
02:26 of work due to being sick; I've never had a cold;
02:29 I've never had a flu."
02:31 And it's interesting, the studies from the literature,
02:34 medical journals show that just such a diet does the BEST
02:38 at making your immune system much stronger!
02:43 Would you be suggesting a totally raw diet
02:46 or would you be suggesting a certain amount of raw?
02:49 What would you be saying to that?
02:51 He went totally raw and I don't suggest a totally raw,
02:55 but I am saying that if you ate a lot more
02:57 fresh fruits and vegetables, you could come closer
02:59 to his record of being free from disease. Yes, yes.
03:03 And that's really great; Jeni, what do you think about it?
03:05 Well he had a good attitude too. Yes.
03:07 And this is where one of the biggest impacts
03:09 on the immune system is to do with stress. Oh.
03:12 Alright and an 8-day course there's a lot of inflammation
03:14 in the brain and the body and when we have prolonged
03:17 stress, that inflammation doesn't come down,
03:20 so that will affect the whole system and every part
03:23 of our body is impacted by stress. Yes.
03:26 So it's important that we practice stress management
03:29 and this is where the person you're talking about
03:31 sounds like he was enjoying his lifestyle;
03:33 he was relaxed; he loved his work and that
03:37 adds in to the dietary principles.
03:40 He was a very interesting guy in that, you know,
03:43 here we are high school students and you can imagine
03:46 how we teased him!
03:48 We would say, "Oh here comes the gopher, can we go down
03:51 and get you some greens or
03:53 some oleanders - which are sort of poisonous.
03:55 Sort of poisonous - yes.
03:57 And he would just throw it right back at us.
03:59 He was a good sport.
04:02 He had a good sense of humor,
04:03 another thing that helps immunity.
04:05 And let me tell you, this school had a hay farm
04:09 where we baled hay into big bales of hay
04:12 like 60 pound bales and see that would be like 30 kilos
04:15 or 25 kilos and we would take these bales of hay
04:19 and throw them up on the back of a big flatbed truck.
04:23 Well nobody could throw a bale higher than he could! Wow!
04:27 And he was on this raw food diet and we're like, "Wow,"
04:30 where did he get all that energy?"
04:32 You get good energy from good food.
04:34 Well now you know that. Now we know that.
04:38 And so the immune system is obviously a vital part
04:42 of staying alive, isn't it? Absolutely!
04:47 It's not just nice to have it going well but if we didn't
04:51 have an immune system... We wouldn't survive.
04:55 If you don't have an immune system functioning,
04:57 even antibiotics can't save you.
04:59 There's a classic story of a gentleman called, "Bubble Boy."
05:04 Oh yes! I think it was as a movie.
05:07 There's a movie out on it.
05:08 And this gentleman was born with no immune system.
05:11 They knew he was going to be born with no immune system
05:14 because his brother had the same problem - genetic.
05:18 And so they had him born in a sterile environment; put him in
05:23 to the bubble which was a big plastic incubator and kept
05:27 all disease out of there and he grew up in this bubble.
05:30 NASA, the space organization in the United States,
05:34 got involved and made him a spacesuit so he could
05:36 go outside, but finally they decided to try a stem cell
05:41 transplant and it didn't work and he passed away.
05:45 But all to illustrate, if you don't have an immune system,
05:48 there's big troubles!
05:50 And so when you look at what the immune system does,
05:53 it makes sure that no enemy gets at you! That's right.
05:57 It's our fighting force, it's the army in our system,
06:00 isn't it - that protects us.
06:01 And this keeps you from getting the disease
06:05 from viruses, bacteria and other pathogens.
06:09 And we're battling those all the time. All the time!
06:12 There wouldn't be a time, I suppose (Never)
06:15 that we're not battling something,
06:17 and we don't know about that or sometimes we do,
06:20 because we, you know, come down sick.
06:23 But at other times, we wouldn't realize just how busy
06:26 our immune system is that's doing all that.
06:28 See when your immune system is healthy, you don't feel
06:31 what the bacteria is or what's going into your system
06:34 because it's busy fighting it and removing it. Yes.
06:36 So it's only if you're unhealthy that's when there's a problem.
06:39 And it's interesting in research now, they've done a lot of
06:42 of research on why these children are growing up
06:44 like the boy in the bubble because they're finding
06:46 now children's immune systems are not as
06:49 good at times and they found that what parents are doing is
06:53 putting them into a sterile environment.
06:54 Now when I was growing up, we'd be outside - we'd eat
06:57 snails and dirt! OHH! Laughter!
06:58 That's what kids do, things that they ingest
07:03 it's quite remarkable.
07:05 And that challenges the immune system to function. Okay.
07:09 And what's happening is they've got all these sterile wipes,
07:11 and they wipe everything, all the benches get cleaned,
07:14 and the children - "Oh don't play in the dirt,"
07:16 and they're not doing things that actually help
07:19 the immune system to grow.
07:20 It's like a muscle - it needs to be strengthened. Okay.
07:23 Which is interesting, isn't it?
07:25 Well it is interesting!
07:26 I'm not telling you to send your kids out to eat snails.
07:28 That's alright, they're a bit too big to do that now.
07:31 But I've heard two schools of thought on that,
07:33 and it's a bit of a balancing thing isn't it? It is.
07:37 You know if the child gets an infection,
07:41 then you're going to try and treat it. Yes.
07:43 But the child won't get the infection if their immune
07:46 system is working really well.
07:47 And that's that principle you talked about in the story.
07:51 Some of the information we get on the immune system
07:54 comes from when we have had pandemics.
07:57 One of the most classic and the biggest one was the 1918
08:01 Spanish influenza! Yes.
08:02 And I got most of my statistics from America, but they had a
08:06 30% attack rate - meaning 30% of people would come
08:10 down with it but that means 70% DID NOT! (get it)
08:15 So how do you make sure that you are in the 70%
08:19 instead of the 30%?
08:21 I mean this is an important odds to look at here.
08:24 And so boosting the immune system so that when
08:27 anything like that infectious disease, be it SARS,
08:30 be it Ebola, be it bird flu, whatever comes around,
08:34 you are prepared.
08:36 What else would help to strengthen the immune system?
08:39 What would you say?
08:41 One thing that's very helpful is to get your rest.
08:44 Interesting study looking at mice - they took mice,
08:48 they put them in two groups.
08:51 Both groups got vaccinated and then they deprived
08:56 one group of sleep one night for 7 hours - that was it.
09:00 And then they gave them a flu virus - the ones that had been
09:04 vaccinated but had lost their sleep for one night
09:08 caught the flu as though they'd never been vaccinated.
09:11 Isn't that interesting! That's very impressive!
09:15 And sadly, these days I think sleep deprivation
09:21 is just rampant because since the electric light
09:25 came in - that was the beginning of it but now with
09:27 all these electrical devices and 24/7 television and a lot of
09:33 shops being opened 24/7, life just goes on.
09:37 It used to be that go to bed when the sun went down
09:41 and so on, but not anymore.
09:43 We had a blackout here a few weeks ago and it was just
09:46 amazing the difference it made to people - they started
09:49 talking to each other and things like that,
09:51 and getting more sleep.
09:53 But, yes, sleep deprivation is quite a significant thing
09:57 so it's something to be aware of isn't it?
09:59 There's the foods, the fresh foods and then we've
10:02 got this sleep deprivation, what else might?
10:06 Well I was going to say, the majority of illnesses
10:09 that I see like mental emotional health problems,
10:12 sleep deprivation is a major part of it and they are either
10:15 taking drugs or not sleeping and over a period of time
10:19 their immune function goes down so much, they end up
10:22 getting very, very sick because
10:24 they're not getting enough sleep.
10:26 And we're talking about people who go for sometimes years
10:30 with insomnia. Yes.
10:31 So you can see our system can be robust to a point,
10:34 but there's a point where it's worn down
10:36 and insomnia is a stress factor, so there's
10:39 a lot of things not happening.
10:41 Yes, so all of these things impact on each other. Yes.
10:43 Sleep causes stress, stress causes loss of sleep,
10:48 and they do it both ways.
10:49 It's like a vicious cycle when you look at it. Yes.
10:52 But see, stress is pervasive and there are so
10:55 many things that are stressful in life,
10:57 but it's the person who learns how to deal with the stress
11:01 and stay focused in the present and solve the problem or,
11:04 you know, maybe fix whatever the problem is if they can
11:07 or get support to deal with it, are the ones who will be
11:11 healthier than the ones who are going to worry about
11:12 it, think about it, go over it and that's where
11:15 the mind comes into play then - it's important.
11:18 You mentioned that "being in the present,"
11:20 now you mentioned that in another program,
11:22 just tell us about that.
11:23 We only have the present moment but our brain
11:27 to be healthy and in balance and that's we're talking about
11:29 mentally-emotionally we need to keep the whole brain
11:33 which is your neocortex, left-right brain
11:35 focused in the present moment and if you look at how
11:39 often you do that or don't do that during the day,
11:42 and a lot of people spend the majority of their time
11:44 either dwelling on the past or fearing the future.
11:47 So this is where, to alleviate stress, I teach people
11:51 how to, what we call, be mindful and put your mind
11:54 in the present. Okay.
11:55 And that's like body awareness, recognizing emotions that come
11:59 up, for example - I was just talking to John before
12:03 and apparently 5 minutes of anger will impact
12:06 the immune system negatively for 5 hours. Five minutes?
12:10 Five minutes of anger! Anger is the most volatile
12:12 emotion we have, so every time we have that little
12:16 anger spat, we're actually impacting the immune system
12:19 for a long period of time. Goodness!
12:21 Now, amazing isn't it? Yes, it is!
12:25 And one of the antidotes to stress is laughter. Right!
12:30 And one of the best ones is the belly laugh. Yes?
12:33 I've done studies on that and found that people
12:35 who have a 10-minute belly laugh a day - their whole
12:37 system including immunity, is much healthier,
12:41 and it starts in 15 muscles in the stomach and radiates
12:45 through the whole body and it's equal to a 20-minute
12:48 aerobic workout if we have a good belly laugh.
12:51 Oh wow, I think we should just do one right now!
12:53 Laughter! I'd like to!
12:55 You know, "Norman Cousins," healed himself
12:58 through laughter, didn't he?
12:59 Are you aware of that one?
13:01 He was dying, he was really, really sick and he was a
13:05 doctornottrue, so he just thought, "Well, that was the only
13:09 thing he could think of to do and he got himself
13:13 the funny DVDs and things like that and he was
13:16 laughing so much in the hospital, they asked him
13:18 to leave - so he went to a hotel and continued and he got well.
13:23 So there's many things, many things - our mood,
13:28 what's going on in our mind.
13:29 We've noticed that in many instances, the stress and the
13:32 sadness and the happiness, they impact hugely on the body
13:35 and it works both ways.
13:37 The body impacts on the mind.
13:38 You're focused in the present when you're laughing, you see.
13:42 And it's the type of laughter, it's not laughing at someone,
13:45 it's laughing with people or at yourself
13:47 or at something that happened.
13:48 I've got plenty of... when it
13:49 comes to that with myself.
13:51 We have to see ourselves with humor and that will
13:54 help to keep the immune system healthy. Yes.
13:56 So we're looking at lots of good things we can do
13:59 in the present that will keep us that way.
14:02 And what we eat is "present focus."
14:04 There we go! Boy, doesn't that make you hungry!
14:08 So what shall we eat?
14:09 That's about chewing your food, isn't it? Chew it well.
14:11 And enjoying - using the five senses to enjoy
14:14 what you eat and the visual image of the food
14:17 and there's a lot to do to strengthen the whole system.
14:21 And preferably eating with people because
14:24 that social aspect makes it so nice and you find that out,
14:29 you know, people who live alone and they come out
14:31 and they say, "Oh, it's so nice not to eat alone."
14:34 And that's a stress factor.
14:36 It's all part of what happens.
14:38 And when you look at the immune system,
14:40 the cells that are the most active in fighting like a viral
14:44 illness are your natural killer cells.
14:47 And if you're going to eat something that will wipe out
14:49 your natural killer cells, the number one would be
14:52 eating a high fat diet, particularly eating cholesterol.
14:57 It cuts the number of natural killer cells down
15:00 and shuts their function down to one-fourth
15:03 of normal function level.
15:05 Well stress is the other factor that impacts
15:08 these killer cells.
15:09 Knocks them out as well, that's right.
15:11 Yes it does, so you've got a double whammy there.
15:13 So if you're on a bad diet, you're getting depressed
15:15 and stressed, you're in big trouble, you're a
15:19 sitting duck for the bird flu.
15:21 That's right... if you're there with the birds.
15:23 Was that meant to be a pun, "You're a sitting duck
15:26 for the bird flu?" Laughter.
15:30 And it's just interesting how many things impact us
15:34 and the directions they come from and that's why
15:36 in this program, we like to focus on the mental, and the
15:39 physical and the spiritual, and the social aspects.
15:41 We haven't actually talked about the spiritual input.
15:43 Jeni, did you have something to say on that?
15:46 There are a lot of good studies to show that people
15:48 who have a practicing faith, prayer and faith,
15:51 and it's not necessarily about going to a church,
15:54 it's about your belief and your faith in God and you
15:57 work with that - and that's a "present moment" thing.
15:59 You see, so it keeps people focused in the present.
16:02 Have a much healthier overall system but certainly
16:05 a healthier immune system and can live up to 6-7 years longer
16:09 because of their faith and this is well-documented,
16:13 it's not just a hearsay.
16:15 No, no, they can perhaps pick that up on the fact sheets
16:18 if they want to check that out and we'll talk about
16:21 that later in the program.
16:23 Another aspect to a good immune system and good health
16:27 is living a life where you are helping other people. Yes.
16:32 We call it "benevolence," volunteering.
16:35 People who volunteer for their community have 60% less
16:39 disease than those who end up just living for themselves.
16:44 That's profound!
16:45 Did you have a look at the focus when your
16:47 helping someone? Where are you focused
16:49 in the present but you're focused away from yourself.
16:52 Stress is when we are self-focused and they find
16:55 that when people focus out of themselves and help others,
16:58 their stress levels go right down.
17:01 So you were just explaining how this actually works.
17:03 You told us it happens and now you're telling us
17:06 how it actually works because we're outwardly focused
17:09 and our mind is not going...
17:10 And our stress levels come down. Come down!
17:12 And it's a good reason to go and help other people. Yes!
17:15 It keeps me healthy and I get paid!
17:17 You get paid - alright.
17:18 Like John! Okay, yeah.
17:21 And this sort of gets us into a thing we've talked about
17:25 on another program - sugar.
17:27 When a person takes 12 teaspoons of sugar,
17:30 about the amount of sugar that would be in one soda,
17:33 it decreases the immune system by 60%. Wow.
17:36 In other words, the white cell that supposed to gobble up
17:39 a bad bacteria, will instead of gobbling up 14 bacteria,
17:44 will only gobble up 5.5. Wow.
17:48 And then if you got 24 teaspoons of sugar,
17:51 and it cuts down the immune system so that a white cell
17:54 will only gobble up 1 bacteria in the same amount of time
17:57 it would have normally done 14.
17:59 So the amount of sugar... and I don't know the statistics
18:02 on Australia for sugar consumption,
18:05 but in America, the average American is consuming
18:08 about 44 teaspoons of sugar per day.
18:11 It used to be about 35 here, but they're older statistics,
18:14 so it would probably be on par now particularly with,
18:17 you know and you put junk food and added sugars and
18:19 all sorts of things and people drinking
18:21 the soda drinks and that.
18:23 And that's a good point... people don't always realize
18:26 where their sugar is coming from. No, no.
18:27 It's hidden sugars. Hidden sugars!
18:29 If we said a soda would have 12 teaspoons of sugar
18:33 for your average soda, but did you know if you
18:35 eat cornflakes in milk for breakfast,
18:39 it will be about 16 teaspoons of sugar in your bloodstream
18:42 even though they may not have sugar on the label because
18:45 the carbohydrate is so refined by the way they
18:48 cook it, that you end up with a high sugar
18:51 load in your bloodstream.
18:52 Well sweet biscuits is about 7, one little sweet biscuit.
18:56 There are lots and lots of ways that it just...
18:59 and who would ever think that there would be,
19:01 is it 12 teaspoons in a can of we call it "soft drink"
19:05 in this country, but just that so people know.
19:09 Oh yeah, we do have soda as well.
19:10 Well one of the health principles I've practiced
19:12 with my clients is getting them to start reading labels
19:14 when they go shopping - even if they just do one product
19:18 every time they shop or if they can do more.
19:21 And they are often shocked at what they find they're eating.
19:24 I was doing a supermarket tour once with some school
19:27 children and this little boy, he was just about 10,
19:31 and that's as young as we usually take them on a tour,
19:33 and we were looking at the labels and saying how much
19:36 sugar was inside - I just don't remember what the product
19:39 was now, but it wasn't in the confectionary aisle
19:41 I do know that and he was so shocked.
19:44 He said, "I'm going to be telling my mother about this."
19:48 Laughter... What a good idea! Yes!
19:52 What a good idea!
19:53 Yeah, just a dear little kid.
19:57 And people get tricked by this, for example...
19:59 In West Virginia, in America, there got to be a big lobby
20:04 going that they should take the soda machines
20:06 or pop machines - what do you call it, soft drink machines
20:09 out of the schools and put in juice machines... and they did!
20:15 And somebody came and looked at the quantity of sugar
20:19 in the juices and they compared three juices to the top soda
20:22 and all the juices had more sugar than...
20:25 Because there's sugar in the juice and added sugars usually.
20:29 And that's been a refined thing too because, you know,
20:34 the fruit has been extracted out and the fiber is gone
20:38 and so it's different from having it
20:40 right there in the fruit when you do that to it.
20:44 So those sugars which are eaten in the whole fruit,
20:47 say an apple or something, is missing all of that fiber
20:51 and all that chewing and everything.
20:52 So those sugars aren't as good for you when they've been
20:55 extracted and pulled out. That's correct.
20:58 Because when you're looking at children, immunity
21:01 starts at a very young age, and we were talking about
21:03 this before, so what are your thoughts on that?
21:06 Yeah, that's right! You know, a lot of people
21:07 have their child and then they go look down to the
21:09 supermarket where they get all their food
21:11 for something for the child.
21:13 And that's baby formula which is hugely refined and instead of
21:20 using the best food for the baby and the best food
21:22 for the baby is mother's milk.
21:25 And studies show that if you breastfeed a baby
21:28 for 2 years, their whole life they have a better
21:31 immune system; their whole life they have less diseases;
21:33 they're more intelligent, a lot of benefits!
21:36 I just noticed on the "World Health Organization" website
21:39 just a day or so ago... 2 years, like you just said,
21:44 that's what they recommend.
21:45 Obviously you introduce suitable foods at 6 months,
21:48 but it should be exclusively breastfed for 6 months
21:52 and then continue for 2 years.
21:55 And that's something that would be such a gift, I mean...
21:58 we spend a fortune on presents for children and toys,
22:02 and things like that, but what a gift to give them, you know,
22:05 to strengthen their immune system when you can.
22:08 And I know some mothers are not able to do that,
22:13 I know the fathers can't, but... laughter.
22:19 Was that a sexist statement? Laughter.
22:22 I hope not, oh dear!
22:26 No but... and I know some people can't, but if you can
22:31 it's just such an incredible gift for their whole life.
22:35 You know, toys wear out, but what a gift.
22:37 And it's that first few days of feeding, breastfeeding,
22:41 once the child is born, I think is it 5 days?
22:43 There's a period of time that their having as a colostrum
22:46 where that builds the immune system and if the child
22:49 doesn't have that, that's when the immunity is going is
22:53 going to struggle.
22:54 Yes and even if they could do that much,
22:56 like any amount, is going to be better than nothing at all.
23:00 But all of these things we talk about that are going to be
23:04 helpful - they obviously involve change and that can be
23:08 a bit of a challenge and we always just
23:09 have a little mention of that.
23:10 I came across this gorgeous quote, it's a Chinese proverb,
23:14 and it said, "When the winds of change blow, some people
23:18 build walls and others build windmills," and I love that!
23:23 I really think that's tremendous and so I guess
23:25 there's some people out there thinking maybe that you
23:28 already got some walls going up or maybe you're thinking,
23:31 "Yes! Yes, I'm going to try that, I'm going to do more."
23:35 And I hope that you are because it's a good opportunity
23:39 to be motivated to do that.
23:42 Yes it is and this is where change... again that's what I
23:45 do, I help people bring about change. Yes!
23:47 And that's huge because I think change is something we usually
23:52 need help with.
23:54 And some people resist it more than others.
23:56 They do and that's part of the personality.
23:58 That's part of the personality.
24:00 But I encourage people if they're struggling to change,
24:02 to get help, whether it be professional or read a book,
24:05 or find information.
24:07 Or all of the above because it is not an easy thing to do.
24:12 We can be very motivated at a certain time and then that
24:15 can just go down and that's where the support
24:17 needs to come in. Yeah, I totally agree.
24:20 And change is important, we have the saying that,
24:24 "Craziness is doing the same thing over and over again,
24:29 and expecting different results!" That's right!
24:32 Yeah, and so change is inevitable.
24:34 People who don't change or can't change or really
24:37 won't change because it is a choice, have much higher
24:39 stress levels than people who can go with the flow
24:42 or initiate change more easily.
24:45 So people who are really stuck where they are,
24:48 are you saying that's a stressful thing?
24:49 Yeah, they have a lot of adrenalin, a lot of cortisol
24:51 because they're fighting change
24:53 and they're very threatened by change and it's usually
24:55 underpinned by their insecurity
24:57 which often starts at a very early age,
24:59 so that's where, again, I help people to start to feel
25:02 secure that they can face change
25:04 and it's not such a threat to them.
25:05 Oh I wouldn't have actually realized that.
25:07 I thought people who stayed put, they're not changing
25:09 so they are not going through the stress but you say they are.
25:12 It's actually worse. That's interesting.
25:13 It is, isn't it? That's interesting.
25:15 I'll be more sympathetic to someone
25:16 I know who is very stuck, no change, no change
25:24 because they're going through more stress than
25:28 maybe people who...
25:30 Well they are, they're going through a lot of stress
25:31 at that point of time.
25:34 And people need to learn that - they're stuck in one
25:38 mode because of what's happened to them,
25:39 and, you know, they fear change.
25:41 And they must maintain the status quo, that seems to
25:45 be their main goal in life.
25:48 And while they're remaining fixed and not changing,
25:51 there is nothing else that isn't changing.
25:54 That's right. Yeah, everything changes,
25:56 our life changes constantly and we have to learn to
25:58 deal with that.
26:00 Now one change that people could make is "eat an apple a day."
26:04 Yes! Yes! And that's not good for your business though!
26:08 Like keeping the doctor away!
26:13 And studies of people who eat an apple a day
26:15 show they do get fewer lung diseases, their lungs work
26:18 better for breathing, they actually breathe an extra
26:22 150 milliliters of air with every breath and it cuts down
26:26 on the number of viruses that they get.
26:29 How much extra air?
26:30 One-hundred and fifty (150) milliliters
26:31 of air with every breath.
26:33 So we worked out that was just over a half a cup.
26:36 That's a lot of more volume isn't it?
26:41 Just because you're eating an apple a day...
26:43 did you say? An apple a day!
26:45 And then you have more oxygen to the brain, more capacity...
26:49 Nutrients. Yes and they're valuable.
26:51 They're finding out more and more now about apples
26:54 scientifically, and it really is
26:56 "An apple a day keeps the doctor away."
26:57 I wonder how they knew it right back then?
26:59 I wonder how because that's such an old saying,
27:02 "An apple a day keeps the doctor away." And it's true!
27:04 And they're really finding out more and more
27:06 that there is a tremendous amount of truth in that.
27:09 And with the immune system, what we're looking at
27:11 is that it increases the number of natural killer cells. Okay.
27:14 And it's got phytochemicals like quercetin that actually
27:18 work as virus suppressors so they don't
27:24 multiply so much in the cells.
27:26 That's interesting, isn't it? Yeah, excellent.
27:30 Well we've covered some really good things today;
27:32 things that work for us and then there are things
27:35 that work against us. Yes.
27:37 So it would be really good if we could encourage
27:40 our viewing audience and our listeners to (embrace change)
27:47 take on something! Yes, embrace change,
27:48 and think of at least one thing
27:50 that would actually work for them.
27:52 And so we'll wrap up our program today,
27:55 and if you'd like a fact sheet of what we've talked about
27:57 or you'd like to watch our programs on demand,
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28:15 everything you'd like to know or there might be another
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28:25 and we look forward to having you join us next time
28:27 on "Healthy Living" because we have many topics
28:30 to discuss and we hope that will be very helpful to you.


Revised 2019-07-24