Healthy Living

Charcoal

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Participants: Margot Marshall (Host), Dr. Eddie Ramirez

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00:15 Welcome to "Healthy Living!"
00:16 I'm your host Margot Marshall.
00:18 Activated charcoal is used worldwide in hospital
00:22 emergency rooms to neutralize drugs and poisons.
00:26 And it's also useful though to have on hand
00:28 for a variety of everyday ailments.
00:31 Stay tuned for more on this amazing product.
01:11 Charcoal is able to adsorb thousands of times its
01:15 own weight in gases, heavy metals, poisons and chemicals
01:20 often making them ineffective.
01:22 So it's a very useful item to have in your first aid kit,
01:26 and for all sorts of common ailments.
01:29 Our guest, Dr. Eddie Ramirez, will tell us about this
01:32 amazing product and show us how to use it.
01:34 Welcome Eddie, lovely to have you on the program.
01:37 Thank you very much.
01:39 So what is charcoal?
01:41 I mean, is it just something that we've burnt some wood,
01:44 is that what we're talking about here?
01:47 No, not necessarily - charcoal is something
01:50 that in my opinion, every household should have
01:54 some of it and in a minute we'll talk about the different
01:56 forms that we can find it.
01:58 But what about "activated" charcoal? What's the difference?
02:01 But what charcoal is, is basically a vegetable that has
02:07 been burned completely.
02:10 And the best type of charcoal is actually made out of
02:14 hard wood - that's the one that makes the best charcoal.
02:19 And you were asking about "activated" charcoal. Yes.
02:22 As technology increased, we realized that if we put that
02:27 charcoal under high temperature and high pressure,
02:32 the charcoal particles actually becomes in the form of
02:38 a sphere and by becoming more spherical and by changing
02:45 their electric charges, they actually increase the ability
02:50 to adsorb much more things.
02:53 Yes, well it's amazing the capacity to adsorb,
02:58 it's really incredible!
02:59 But look it, you've done some research on this,
03:01 tell us about your research.
03:03 Yes, I presented a study in a "PhRMA" meeting,
03:12 and the reason why they were interested in this
03:14 PhRMA meeting about my study is because this PhRMA meeting
03:19 was interested in environmental toxins - things that are
03:25 foreign to the body and that cause damage.
03:27 That is called a "xenobiotic substance."
03:29 So here I was showing, in this study, how a spider bite,
03:35 one of the most poisonous spiders that you can find
03:41 is called the "brown recluse," or also is called the
03:46 "violinist spider" because if you notice in its very head
03:49 it has the form of a little violin.
03:53 And in this study we were showing how activated charcoal
04:00 was an excellent aid to the other treatments that
04:05 were being applied.
04:07 See, this spider is so poisonous, it is actually
04:11 more poisonous than a rattlesnake for example.
04:16 That sounds really bad to me!
04:18 Now usually you will not die of this spider bite,
04:22 but what this spider does, it has a poison
04:27 that destroys tissue. Oh.
04:30 And in some people when they get bitten by this,
04:33 if you want to see something incredible how this
04:37 can damage the tissues in the body, just Google
04:39 brown recluse bite and you will see it with your own eyes.
04:43 As this venom starts going to the tissues, in certain
04:48 people - not in everybody, the skin literally dies
04:54 and this becomes a huge problem because a little bite
04:58 can become a big, big problem and usually,
05:02 when you get bitten by this spider, you immediately
05:05 are not able to do much.
05:08 If it bites you in the leg, and in this case in was in the
05:12 feet where the spider where the bite happened.
05:17 The person cannot walk after that,
05:21 that's how tremendous this is.
05:22 The skin starts to change color and so forth,
05:24 so what we did - we started applying activated charcoal
05:29 fomentations and in a minute we will share with you
05:32 the demonstration on how to do this at home - we started
05:37 applying these fomentations every 6 hours continually.
05:42 And you know, usually somebody with this type of bite will
05:46 recover in 3, 4, 5 weeks.
05:50 In his published study that is going to be coming up
05:53 in the journal, "Drug Metabolism Review,"
05:56 is called the name of the journal, the person was able
06:00 to actually run by the second week which is unheard of!
06:05 How can somebody recover so soon?
06:08 So we were actually proposing that as a standardized
06:12 treatment activated charcoal should be
06:16 applied for spider bites.
06:19 Now, I know that here in Australia, there are very
06:22 dangerous spiders; in fact, I actually caught a redback
06:27 just for the fun of it.
06:28 You caught it. I caught it.
06:30 That wasn't a good idea if you did it safely.
06:33 And also you're familiar with the funnel spider and so forth.
06:36 So I am not saying that if you get bitten by one of these
06:41 spiders, you just put charcoal on it and everything is
06:43 going to be fine - ABSOLUTELY NOT.
06:45 These are very dangerous spiders - you can apply the
06:48 charcoal but you run to the health professional to
06:53 continue with the care and so forth.
06:55 If you are in one of those desolate places which
06:59 there are many here in Australia and you're not able
07:02 to get medical care and you get one of these bites,
07:04 you can keep on applying that fomentation until you get
07:08 to a health professional and then you continue
07:11 with the therapy that is needed.
07:12 That sounds like good advice.
07:14 I'd like to know how it works.
07:15 How is it - what does charcoal actually do
07:18 that made that recovery so much quicker?
07:20 How does it work?
07:22 That's right, there are two key properties in charcoal.
07:27 You have absorption and you have adsorption.
07:32 Yes, what's the difference?
07:34 With "D" and with "B." Okay.
07:35 When it's with the "D," that tends to be
07:37 an electrical property.
07:39 See, when you are in the microscopic world,
07:44 electric charges make a big deal.
07:47 They have a big influence and the electric charges
07:53 as any magnet will attract things, in our world only
08:01 metals can be attracted to magnets.
08:03 Well, in the microscopic world, many other things
08:06 can be attracted with currents with magnets.
08:10 And then you have the other characteristic which
08:13 that one has to do with its ability to incorporate
08:18 the substance to the charcoal itself - so that's a more
08:23 chemical type of property.
08:26 So using those two properties, this will help.
08:30 And I also wanted to mention something - if you are in the
08:33 barbecue and you say, "Oh, well look at this,
08:36 I have some charcoal there that I'm using for my barbecue,"
08:39 PLEASE DON'T USE THAT.
08:41 That charcoal that you buy in the stores for charbroiled
08:47 purposes and so forth, that one has chemicals!
08:51 That's the reason why when you put the match - immediately
08:54 it fires very quickly - DO NOT USE THAT.
08:57 Also, don't say, "Well I have here an old piece of bread,
09:01 I'm going to burn this and I'm going to make my own charcoal."
09:06 PLEASE DO NOT.
09:07 It needs to be completely burned and things that are
09:11 actually half burned - actually could be cancer-causing,
09:17 so it's not a very good idea.
09:19 So where do we access the charcoal - the sort of
09:22 stuff that we're going to be using for this purpose.
09:24 That's right, so you find different formats.
09:27 This you can find sometimes your chemist may have it;
09:31 sometimes in your health food store - sometimes you can
09:35 find it there and actually you may want to give us a ring
09:39 here and we can actually give you some tips here
09:41 at 3ABN on where you can find it.
09:43 And a disclaimer - I don't sell charcoal at all, I am doing this
09:49 because I know it is very effective.
09:52 In fact, as you mentioned very well in the introduction
09:56 of this program - charcoal is something we find in the
10:02 emergency department.
10:04 I remember one time, I was the physician in charge of the
10:07 emergency department and you know, a particular day that
10:12 I remember very well, most of the things that came that day
10:16 I could fix with charcoal.
10:19 You know there were some diarrheas and a little
10:22 insect bite and so forth and I actually ended up
10:27 using the most of the charcoal of the emergency department,
10:30 the nurses got upset with me.
10:32 But they needed the charcoal, not medication
10:35 in that particular occasion.
10:37 Well it's really nice to hear this coming from a medical
10:39 practitioner because sometimes when something
10:42 is unfamiliar to people, they might think,
10:44 "I'm not really sure about that," and that fact
10:47 that it was in the hospital too, it shows that it's
10:50 something that they use.
10:51 They use it for overdoses, don't they?
10:53 That's right, there are many indications that in the
10:57 official guidelines you use charcoal!
11:00 You said one very well - in certain cases for certain
11:04 substances that have been overdosed, you can introduce
11:07 charcoal to the stomach, the charcoal will help to
11:10 bind those toxic substances preventing those substances
11:14 to continue further in your system
11:16 and causing some damage and so forth.
11:19 So I guess it's not a good idea to have charcoal
11:21 if you've just had medication or something like that.
11:24 Absolutely! A very good point!
11:26 Charcoal absorbs a lot of things including your medication.
11:31 So please, if you are taking medication and especially
11:35 delicate medication like blood pressure, heart medication,
11:39 diabetes - if you take the charcoal too close to the
11:43 time when you take the medication, the charcoal
11:46 will bind that medication and it's as if you did not
11:50 have the medication and there can be
11:52 a little bit of a problem - so just beware of that.
11:56 How much apart, I would advise you if you're going to be
12:00 taking it orally between 2 hours or so. Alright.
12:04 Now what do we use charcoal for?
12:07 Well let me tell you how you find it.
12:10 Usually you're going to find it in three forms, the charcoal.
12:14 You're going to find it in little capsules,
12:18 you're going to find it in tablets,
12:20 and you're going to find it in powder.
12:24 Personally, I like the best the powder format
12:28 because it's very easy to do many things.
12:34 In the capsules, the amount of charcoal is less charcoal
12:39 and that's why if you ask me to choose between
12:43 the tablets and the powder, I would go for the tablets
12:47 if I'm traveling and it's easy to carry with you and so forth.
12:51 But at home, it's a good idea to have some of that
12:53 activated charcoal in powder format.
12:56 Now what would we use that powder charcoal if we want to
13:02 take it orally?
13:04 Well we would use it for things like indigestion,
13:08 for things like gas - okay there are times, you know,
13:13 you go out and you go and eat, and things don't agree
13:17 very good with you, you can try some of this charcoal
13:22 and see if it's improving your problem.
13:26 That's to drink it. That's right.
13:28 We're talking about, right now, the oral format to drink it.
13:32 And in a minute we will show you how you can actually
13:35 prepare it. Yes, that would be good.
13:37 So you would use it in those cases and I just want to
13:42 give you a little warning - if the abdomen is hard;
13:48 if it's a lot of pain in the abdominal area,
13:52 please don't say, "Oh charcoal is going to take care of me."
13:55 You call your emergency services because
14:00 this could be an emergency!
14:01 Now if you're in the boonies, far from cities and something,
14:05 you could start with something but if you have close by
14:10 access, please do.
14:12 So let's go ahead and see the demonstration on how
14:14 you can use this charcoal.
14:17 So we're very grateful to have a therapist with us,
14:23 and what she is going to do is she's going to use
14:26 2 tablespoons of charcoal, thank you, and then you
14:32 put it in water and very carefully do the mixture
14:36 because it can get messy.
14:38 And it's a good idea to use a straw if you don't want to
14:41 get the charcoal in your mouth, and the taste of charcoal
14:47 is actually a no-taste, it doesn't taste like anything.
14:52 You can drink it without the straw, it's fine, no problem,
14:57 but if you prefer to be a little bit less messy,
15:00 you can use the straw.
15:02 And you need to use common sense - you just drank
15:05 something black - so when you go to the restroom,
15:09 you're going to see that your feces are going to become black,
15:13 so it's okay, it's normal, nothing to worry about.
15:19 And this charcoal is something that you can use it,
15:26 be careful when you are handling it because of its electrical
15:30 properties - it tends to fly quite a bit.
15:33 If you hit it in the wrong angle, it flies and it's messy.
15:37 It can stain your clothes very easily - so just beware
15:43 of those things.
15:45 Now not only can you drink it orally, but you can also
15:51 apply the charcoal directly on the skin.
15:54 Now why would you do that?
15:56 What would prompt you to do that?
15:59 There are many indications for that - when an insect bites you,
16:04 you know, you have bees here in Australia; you have hornets,
16:10 and when you receive one of these bites from one of these
16:14 creatures, what charcoal does when you put it on the skin
16:18 it helps to absorb the poison. Oh.
16:22 Now if the person is allergic and starts having
16:26 a severe allergic response as a result of this,
16:30 please don't say, "Oh just charcoal and that's enough."
16:33 You need to call the emergency department.
16:35 Now when you're saying, "An allergic response,"
16:38 that wouldn't be to the charcoal, that's to the bite.
16:40 That's to the bite, that's right.
16:41 The person starts having problems breathing,
16:44 the whole body starts getting full of reaction,
16:48 I mean that's severe, you call the
16:50 emergency department.
16:51 Absolutely, I just want to be clear that the charcoal
16:54 wouldn't cause that sort of reaction. That's right.
16:55 And also, beware if the skin is open and you apply
17:03 the charcoal, you can have a little tattoo in your skin,
17:08 so make judgment, you know, would I rather have a
17:12 little tattoo-type of mark with the charcoal
17:18 or should I rather do something else - so just beware
17:21 of that if the skin is open.
17:23 That only happens if the skin is open.
17:25 So we're going to ask our therapist to help us
17:29 demonstrate how you use this activated poultice on the skin.
17:38 So what she's going to do, she has the powdered charcoal,
17:43 she is going to add it to a place to be mixed,
17:46 then we're going to add a little bit of water.
17:50 You can add a little bit of ground flaxseed,
17:52 and I'll explain that in a minute.
17:54 Then she carefully is going to mix this and then you have
17:59 a paper towel and you apply that mixture on the
18:06 paper towel - distribute it well and then it's a good idea
18:13 to protect the area because, as I said, charcoal can be
18:17 a little bit messy.
18:18 He has a little hornet bite that he received
18:23 a few minutes ago, so he is going to receive that poultice
18:29 and, if you notice, we put a little bit of plastic there
18:33 so it can keep the charcoal and then we apply
18:36 a little bit of Ace bandage so that it can keep nice
18:40 and in one place instead of going all over the place.
18:43 I'd also like to invite you to pray as you apply
18:47 these simple remedies, it works much better
18:50 in my personal experience. Yeah, that's beautiful.
18:52 And you know, I mentioned ground flaxseed - so the ground
18:58 flaxseed what it does to the charcoal mixture is it helps
19:03 to give it a little bit more consistency.
19:06 If you don't use the flaxseed like in this example,
19:11 what's going to happen is that as the charcoal gets
19:16 dry, it can even become a little bit powdery,
19:19 it can be a little bit messy and also the charcoal poultice
19:25 made with the ground flaxseed would give a little
19:31 bit better consistency.
19:33 As I tell people, I like to have the consistency of
19:37 peanut butter - so go ahead and do a little bit of
19:41 experimentation about 1 tablespoon of charcoal
19:46 with another tablespoon of ground flaxseed,
19:50 with enough water so that you can have
19:53 that type of peanut butter consistency.
19:55 If you don't have the flaxseed, don't worry, use it as
19:58 an example that we just showed.
20:03 So it's the charcoal that does the work, flaxseed is just
20:06 to make it so that it doesn't go dry and crumbly,
20:09 and if you are having it on all night, for example,
20:12 it might not be so messy.
20:14 That's right because this also can be applied
20:17 to bigger areas like your abdomen. Yes.
20:20 You know those times when you are a little bit too gassy
20:25 and so forth, you can apply it on the skin of the abdomen
20:31 and that will help things get better.
20:34 So are you saying that if you had problems with gas,
20:37 you could either have it orally, drinking it or you could
20:41 actually put it on the outside of your abdomen?
20:42 Or you can actually do the double one - you drink and
20:46 you apply.
20:48 I guess it depends on how big a problem you have. That's right.
20:51 But isn't that remarkable that you could actually
20:53 apply - it would obviously be a large area to put it on,
20:57 and that would actually draw out the gas. That's right!
21:00 It's fantastic! It helps the abdomen feel much better.
21:04 Irritable colon syndrome, this type of problem - these also
21:12 respond very well - by personal experience
21:16 I can testify of that.
21:19 And this charcoal is very useful as you can see,
21:24 so use your creativity, you know, and just make sure
21:30 when you're applying it, if you're going to be there
21:32 overnight with the poultice, be careful that the charcoal
21:36 doesn't go to your sheets and things
21:38 because it can stain them.
21:40 And it's a good idea also, if it's that type of condition,
21:44 it's a spider bite that is taking a little bit longer to
21:48 recover, as you change every 3 hours, every 6 hours,
21:53 you need to discard that old charcoal because it has
21:56 already adsorbed things and so forth, so be careful with that.
22:04 Well it's a remarkable product and it seems to be so
22:07 versatile doesn't it - to think that you can use it
22:09 internally and externally and for all kinds of things,
22:14 even a snakebite I suppose.
22:16 That's right, it won't heal the snake bite but while you
22:21 get to the E.R., you know, you can apply a poultice
22:25 like that, you know? Yes.
22:27 And if you notice, this is something quickly
22:29 that you can do. That's right.
22:31 That's right and I was very interested that you just
22:35 use the charcoal on a paper towel with things you would
22:38 already have in the kitchen as long as you've got charcoal.
22:41 So you can use that and not everybody is going to have
22:45 flaxseed and that's why we've particularly chose
22:47 not to do that - you can do it either way,
22:49 but they'll both work. That's right, both will work
22:52 very good. The other will just give
22:54 a better consistency and give you a better outcome. Yes.
22:57 And also make sure that you're not taking it
23:02 too close to your meals also unless the problem was the
23:07 meal per se, you know, you can go ahead and take it.
23:11 But I'm not saying that this is something you should be
23:14 doing every day - that wouldn't be a good idea.
23:16 If you take it too close to your meals,
23:20 it will literally start to absorb the nutrients
23:23 of your food, so be very careful for that.
23:29 So you should weigh out what's more important,
23:31 you know, whether you can afford to miss the
23:32 nutrients from that meal as opposed to the
23:35 problem that you're experiencing.
23:36 And the speed that it works is so fast, you know,
23:43 you will quickly get some relief.
23:46 Now in the case of diarrhea, if the diarrhea, you've seen
23:50 with your eyes that it has blood and lots of mucus,
23:54 and this type of problem, you call your health
23:57 professional - you know, charcoal may not be enough
24:00 for this type of problem.
24:02 But the type of diarrhea you get, you ate something
24:05 you shouldn't have and you are having some diarrhea,
24:08 you can use some charcoal for this type of problem.
24:12 It's certainly a good thing to have when you're traveling.
24:15 You know, especially to countries where you might not
24:17 be able to get, you know, easy help and if you
24:20 run into that kind of difficulty - you get sick,
24:23 vomiting or diarrhea, it's great to have it there,
24:26 and you can be using it or be getting some other help.
24:29 And another hint I want to give you - in certain people
24:33 charcoal tends to constipate, so in order to help you
24:38 with that, as you're taking the charcoal, go ahead
24:42 and drink more water.
24:44 And you know, it's not only one time that you can
24:46 drink it, you can drink this charcoal 1, 2, 3, even 4 times
24:51 in a short period of time of half an hour - an hour
24:57 if the problem is continuing.
25:00 Now if this, after a few hours, is not improving or is getting
25:06 worse, you call your health professional, you know.
25:10 Also another tip that I want to give you - when you
25:14 have a case in which somebody drinks, by mistake
25:19 or by purpose, the wrong type of thing and you call
25:22 Poison Control, it's a good idea to volunteer the information,
25:28 "Look, I have some charcoal here, could I
25:31 give him some charcoal?"
25:32 And those people that have been professionally trained
25:37 to give you advice - they may say, "Yes, go ahead
25:41 and give him some charcoal."
25:44 There are many poisons that would benefit if you take
25:50 that charcoal and when you're being guided by a professional
25:53 like Poison Control, that would be very useful.
25:56 But it's not a decision that you make yourself,
25:58 you get that professional advice before you administer.
26:00 That's right, when this is something poisonous
26:03 and dangerous and so forth, please seek professional help,
26:09 ask these people who are specially trained.
26:12 There are special guidelines that are used and
26:17 followed to help you make those decisions. Yes.
26:20 Charcoal has been used for thousands of years, hasn't it?
26:22 Absolutely!
26:24 It's not just a brand new thing, but it's probably
26:27 something we haven't used as well as we might have
26:30 or been as aware of as it would be useful to be aware of.
26:33 So I'm really pleased that you've talked to us about this,
26:36 and as I said, because you're a medical doctor and that
26:39 you're endorsing it and that they use it in the
26:42 emergency department, it certainly helps us to be
26:44 confident that this is a great thing to have.
26:47 I have three daughters and, I mean, they already know.
26:52 When they eat and something doesn't agree, "Daddy,
26:57 where's the charcoal, I need some charcoal."
27:00 And they already know as we have been using it for them
27:05 for bites and things that kids get and so forth.
27:09 So it is something very, very useful.
27:12 In my opinion, every household should have some of this
27:16 activated charcoal. Yes!
27:18 I keep it, I have it on hand at all times.
27:20 Rarely really need to use it, but I always want to have it
27:23 there because you never know when it just might be needed.
27:26 That's right. I always have some in my
27:28 toilet bag when I travel there's some there ready to go
27:32 so that I don't miss out. It's really good.
27:35 Yes, it's just a great product!
27:38 So your homework today is going to be to try some of this
27:40 poultice, you know, try it out,
27:43 try to make one and see if it works.
27:45 I mean how hard was that, honestly, that was just
27:47 so simple to do, wasn't it?
27:49 And I just think that was really good to be able to do.
27:52 I'm sure your daughters would just do that...
27:54 Absolutely, even on their dolls they put it,
27:56 so let me put it that way. Laughter.
27:58 Oh they do it for their dolls, do they? Laughter!
28:01 Well, they'll be very healthy dolls, won't they?
28:03 I hope they don't make make them eat it.
28:06 But look, anyway this has just been a very, very useful
28:09 program - not the sort of one that
28:11 we probably hear at all times.
28:13 Lots of programs we hear repeatedly but charcoal
28:16 is just a great product and I hope that you will
28:20 add it to your shopping list because you'll be so
28:23 glad that you have it on hand.
28:25 And remember, you can watch our programs on demand by visiting
28:29 our website that's at: 3abnaustralia.org.au
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28:34 So join us next time as we discuss more
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