HeartLift

Forgiveness: The Need to Forgive Others

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Participants: Jill Morikone

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00:27 Hello and welcome to "Heart Lift."
00:29 I'm Jill Morikone and I'm so glad
00:31 that you've joined us today.
00:33 We're on a journey toward hope,
00:35 toward healing, toward the transformation,
00:38 that the Lord Jesus wants to work
00:40 in your heart and mine, as women,
00:42 as daughters of God.
00:44 If you're just joining us,
00:46 last week we took a look at forgiveness,
00:49 we examined 1 John 1:9 were the Bible says,
00:53 "If we confess our sins,
00:55 the Lord Jesus is faithful and just to forgive us,
00:58 and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
01:02 Now that doesn't mean necessarily
01:03 that we will feel forgiven at that movement.
01:06 But God's word is true.
01:08 He stands back of every promise He has made.
01:11 And as we choose to bring our minds,
01:14 our thoughts interline
01:17 with what the word of God says,
01:19 "God would change our feelings to match our faith."
01:22 That's a beautiful promise.
01:24 Today, we're discussing forgiving others.
01:28 Our scripture is Colossians 3:13.
01:32 If you have your Bible,
01:33 I encourage you to open up and to follow along.
01:36 If not, you can always jot down the reference
01:38 and look it up later.
01:40 Colossians 3:13, "Bearing with one another,
01:45 and forgiving one another,
01:48 if anyone has a complaint against another,
01:51 even as Christ forgave you, so you also must do."
01:58 Let's pray.
01:59 Father, we come before You, thank You for Your forgiveness.
02:03 Thank You that we can stand in assurance
02:07 knowing that You have forgiven us.
02:09 And right now, Lord, we open up our hearts,
02:12 because we want to learn how to forgive
02:15 our brothers and sisters.
02:17 We pray that you would teach us,
02:19 and that we could listen and we thank You
02:21 for the anointing of your Holy Spirit,
02:24 in Jesus' name, amen.
02:28 It was a Monday night.
02:29 On Monday night, we go to our local jail
02:31 and we visit with the woman there
02:33 in the jail.
02:35 This particular Monday was a crowded night.
02:37 We never know who's gonna be in there.
02:40 So we never know how many girls we will have.
02:43 This Monday night in our little room,
02:45 we were packed in,
02:46 they sat four across on the desk
02:49 that line the walls,
02:52 they sit cross legged on the floor.
02:55 And I was squeezed in the corner
02:57 along with one of my sisters.
03:00 My friend from church
03:01 was leading the study that night,
03:02 and she was talking on the topic of forgiveness.
03:06 As she began to talk,
03:08 I looked around the circle at the girls.
03:10 And a lot of them
03:12 were not really into the studying.
03:14 It wasn't a fault of my friend who is leading,
03:16 it was just-- I don't know why.
03:20 It was the work of Satan, I'm, sure that was why, but I--
03:23 Some of them I think come out just because they want to
03:26 get out of their jail cell and they say
03:28 "I just want to get out."
03:29 And so they come for that purpose.
03:31 Some come to hang and to talk with their friends,
03:34 and so they come for that purpose
03:36 and they were writing notes,
03:37 and passing them, and whispering.
03:40 And then some are eager,
03:41 want to read the word of God and they're just
03:44 riveted and focused.
03:47 As my friend was doing the study,
03:49 the girls were in various stages of interests,
03:52 some focused, some not.
03:55 About halfway through the study,
03:58 she began to share a personal testimony,
04:02 how her father had molested her when she was a child.
04:07 He was currently serving prison time.
04:10 Instantly the atmosphere in that room changed.
04:15 Every eye of those girls
04:17 all around the circle was focused,
04:19 because they might not have been
04:21 molested as children, but they all experienced pain.
04:24 They all experienced hurt.
04:27 They all experienced some sort of sadness
04:30 and they could identify in someway
04:33 with what my friend was saying.
04:35 I think no matter what pain we've gone through,
04:38 no matter what hurt, it still hurts and God says,
04:43 "I want to show you,
04:44 I want to pour my love into you."
04:46 So that in turn, you can forgive someone else.
04:52 I have some seeds over here by my chair,
04:57 right here by my chair.
05:00 They are different types of seeds.
05:03 We have an acorn that my husband Greg went out
05:06 and pulled some of these acorns.
05:09 There're some, I don't know if you identify
05:11 what this seed is, it's a green bean seed,
05:14 that we planted in last year's garden.
05:16 This over here is some corn that we pulled off
05:18 of a dried corn cob,
05:20 and at the end is some squash or some pumpkin seeds.
05:23 Now, if I want to plant, let say corn.
05:28 If I were to plant the corn, what would I harvest?
05:32 What would I get?
05:34 Now, I hope your gonna say, I'm going to get corn.
05:38 Because if you plant corn, you should,
05:43 you should receive corn.
05:44 If I plant corn, am I gonna harvest green beans?
05:48 No, at least it shouldn't work that way,
05:50 unless someone went into the garden
05:52 when I was sleeping at night,
05:54 and dug up the corn seeds and plant a green beans.
05:57 If you plant an acorn, are you gonna get corn?
06:00 No, you should get an oak tree.
06:05 The potential of the harvest is wrapped up in the seed.
06:10 The potential of the harvest is wrapped up in the seed.
06:13 The word of God is the same way.
06:16 When God wants to plant His word into our hearts,
06:21 He says, "I know the potential of the harvest
06:24 is inherit in the seed
06:26 I'm planting in your heart and I know
06:29 that it's gonna bring forth an abundant fruit."
06:32 I want you to turn with me to Luke Chapter 8,
06:35 Luke Chapter 8, we're gonna look at
06:37 the Parable of the Sower.
06:40 And this happens in several gospels,
06:42 so you don't have to look at in Luke
06:44 but I like the way Luke describes it.
06:46 We're gonna look at Luke 8:4, 5.
06:49 The Bible says,
06:50 "When a great multitude had gathered,
06:53 and they had come to him from every city,
06:55 he spoke by a parable.
06:58 A sower went out to sow his seed."
07:00 Now in the Bible times,
07:01 they sowed a little different than you and I might so.
07:06 We sow different, we have our machines
07:08 that are mechanicals devices today.
07:10 In the Bible times, the sower would have
07:12 some sort of sling, I don't know around him,
07:17 and he would reach in and he would grab the seeds
07:20 and he would toss them,
07:21 and then he would reach in and grab some more seeds
07:24 and he would toss them.
07:26 Now he wasn't planting probably corn or green beans,
07:29 or squash or acorns.
07:31 Probably he was planting, what did they plant?
07:33 They had barley, they had wheat,
07:37 they might have had some corn,
07:38 they had different types of crops.
07:40 He went out and planted.
07:44 It said "As he sowed, some fell by the way side,
07:47 and it was trampled down,
07:48 and the birds of the air devoured it."
07:51 Now I know in this parable,
07:53 in this story that Jesus told about the sower,
07:55 there's more types of ground,
07:56 there's a ground where that it was
07:58 chocked out by the thorns, some fell on the stony ground,
08:03 some fell on good ground and it had a 100 fold harvest.
08:08 We're only going to look at one type right now.
08:12 We're only looking at one type.
08:14 This is the seed that fell by the wayside.
08:17 And I want to look at the three hindrances
08:19 to planting the word of God in our hearts.
08:23 Remember the potential of the harvest
08:24 is wrapped in the seed, and God says,
08:27 "I want to plant my word deep into your hearts."
08:31 He wants to plant it into our hearts.
08:35 There are three different hindrances
08:37 to the word of God being planted in our hearts.
08:40 First, do you notice some of the seed
08:42 fell by the wayside.
08:43 Now, I like digging in and finding out
08:46 what is the origin or the root of that word.
08:49 The New Testament, excuse me,
08:51 the New Testament was written in Greek.
08:54 And if you look at the Greek word
08:56 for "Wayside" some of the seed feel by the wayside,
09:00 the word is "Hodos," it means a road.
09:04 Now I don't know about you but all the roads
09:05 I have seen are pretty hard,
09:08 it might be an asphalt road or pavement,
09:12 those are hard, gravels, pretty hard,
09:15 even if it's a dirt road.
09:16 If you drive down it long enough
09:18 and you get some rain, it hardens once it dries out.
09:21 Most roads are hard.
09:23 I think the first hindrance to God
09:26 planting His seed, His word into our hearts
09:29 is if we're resistant, if we're hard,
09:33 if we resist the work of the Holy Spirit.
09:36 My husband Greg and I--
09:37 this was probably the first year
09:39 we were married, we had a disagreement.
09:41 Now, we've had more than one disagreement,
09:43 but this particular one,
09:45 at this point I can't tell you what we disagreed about.
09:47 I didn't even know what the argument was about.
09:50 All I know is I was right,
09:53 and he was not right, he was wrong.
09:56 And I knew that and so, I said,
09:58 "I'm not going to him
09:59 and I'm not going to apologize",
10:02 because I was right and my husband was not.
10:07 And so I went about the day and all of a sudden Greg
10:09 came to me he said, "Jilly, let's pray"
10:11 and I said, "I don't want to pray"
10:14 'cause if I pray, God's gonna say,
10:19 "Jill you were wrong
10:21 or at least your attitude was wrong"
10:25 And I didn't want to face that, but I knew I should pray,
10:29 and so Greg and I knelt down at the couch to pray.
10:33 I'll never forget he prayed first
10:36 and I was very thankful for that,
10:37 because I thought
10:39 if I pray first, it looks like I was wrong,
10:40 so I didn't want to pray first,
10:42 but my husband Greg prayed first
10:44 and I'll never forget what he said.
10:46 He said, "God forgive me,
10:49 for not being the husband to Jill
10:52 that I should be."
10:53 Now, he did not pray that prayer
10:55 to manipulate my heart, it was what was in his heart.
10:59 And as soon as he said that,
11:01 the Holy Spirit used that prayer to break
11:06 down my hard heart, my resistance to the work
11:12 that he wanted to do in my heart.
11:14 Sometimes we're resistant.
11:16 We resist the work that the Holy Spirit
11:19 wants to do in our heart,
11:20 we become like the wayside, we become hard.
11:25 Turn with me to Hosea, Hosea 10:12
11:30 it talks about this hardness, it says,
11:32 "Sow to yourselves righteousness,
11:35 reap in mercy, breakup your fallow ground,
11:40 it's time to seek the Lord, till he come
11:42 and rain righteousness upon you."
11:45 Sow to yourselves in righteousness.
11:48 How do you break up a hard field?
11:51 How do you break up something that's,
11:53 that's hard?
11:54 You know, I think one of the best ways
11:55 is a gentle rain.
11:57 Have you ever seen that work?
11:59 If you have a hard pounding rain,
12:01 what's gonna happen?
12:02 If the soil is hard, it's gonna run off.
12:05 None of it will penetrate or absorb
12:08 into the hard soil, but if you have a gentle
12:11 soaking rain, it opens up the soil.
12:15 Another way you can break up a hard ground,
12:18 possibly is by using a rototiller.
12:20 We do that every spring, breaking up all those clods,
12:23 and getting the garden ready for planting again,
12:26 making it soft so that those seeds can go in the soil.
12:31 Now when you do a rototiller,
12:33 if it's too dry, that doest work,
12:35 and if it's too wet when you do it,
12:37 eventually you're gonna get clods
12:39 and you have soil compaction.
12:41 So you need the right balance,
12:42 the right mix when you're using your rototiller.
12:46 And I just think God says, "I want to break up,
12:49 Jill, I want to break up your hard heart.
12:51 I want to break up that resistance
12:54 to the work of my Holy Spirit."
12:56 God breaks it up by
12:57 the gentle rain of His Holy Spirit.
12:59 He breaks it up by the washing of the water of His word.
13:05 Turn with me to Jeremiah 29,
13:07 Jeremiah 29:11, the first way
13:11 that we can be resistant,
13:14 the first hindrance I should say,
13:16 the first hindrance that we have in our lives
13:19 till God planting His seed in is to be resistant.
13:22 The second hindrance is when it's trampled.
13:25 Remember in Luke 8 it said,
13:28 "Some seed fell on the roadside",
13:30 the wayside that was the resistant soil,
13:33 and it said, "And it was trampled."
13:37 God says in Jeremiah 29:11,
13:40 "I know the plans, I have for you",
13:41 says the Lord, plans to prosper you
13:43 and not to harm you.
13:45 Plans to give you a future and a hope.
13:47 God has a beautiful plan for our lives,
13:51 for your life, but so many times,
13:54 the enemy tramples on our heart.
13:58 What are the ways that
13:59 Satan has trampled on your heart?
14:01 What are the ways that he has trampled on that
14:04 soil in your heart?
14:06 I think one of the ways he tramples is by
14:08 confusing the character of God.
14:12 It was another Monday night
14:13 and we were there in jail with the girls.
14:18 We stood to pray and then after prayer,
14:21 we were doing our prayer request
14:24 and I was not really paying attention
14:26 as much as I should, I'm just being honest with you.
14:28 Someone else was doing the prayer request
14:30 and my mind was wondering a little bit.
14:32 And all of a sudden I heard a woman say,
14:35 "My name is Crystal."
14:36 And I looked over her and I thought,
14:38 "I haven't seen her before."
14:39 And I said, "Hey, Crystal, I'm glad you're here.
14:43 Have you been here before?"
14:44 And she said, "No", and she folded her arms
14:47 across her chest, she said,
14:49 "No, I've never been to church before.
14:51 I have no use for God."
14:54 Her vehement startled me and I said,
14:57 "It's okay, we're just so glad
14:59 that you're here Crystal, it's okay."
15:02 And then, later as we got into our study,
15:07 I prayed silently and I said,
15:09 "God show us the key to her heart.
15:12 What's causing the bitterness? What's causing the anger?
15:16 What's going on in her heart? What is the key to her heart?"
15:20 'Cause I didn't know, but I know
15:22 that the Lord Jesus Christ did.
15:24 And so, we were discussing bitterness,
15:26 we were discussing the un-forgiveness
15:28 that we hold on to.
15:30 And all of a sudden halfway through the study,
15:32 a significant shift occurred.
15:35 A woman raised her hand and she said,
15:36 "You all know I have cancer.
15:39 However, I'm here to tell you that I believe I got cancer,
15:43 because I held on to a resentment for years."
15:48 As soon as she said that, I kind of crunched inside.
15:51 Not that our emotions don't affect
15:55 our physical health, I agree with that
15:57 and I believe that, but I didn't want
15:59 any of our girls there in jail to feel like something
16:03 that happened to them was their own fault.
16:05 And before I could even speak,
16:07 I took a breath and I thought what am I supposed to say.
16:09 Before I could even speak, Crystal spoke,
16:15 she said, "What kind of resentment
16:16 does a kid have?
16:17 Does a kid hold on to that would cause cancer?"
16:22 And I took a deep breath and started to speak
16:25 and then she lashed out again,
16:27 she said, "My eight year old son
16:30 died of cancer, six months ago."
16:35 She said, "You cannot tell me,
16:38 that because of his resentment
16:40 or because of something he did that he got cancer."
16:44 Instantly understanding flooded my mind.
16:47 Here was the source of her pain with God,
16:51 and I said, "Crystal, tell me something,
16:54 of course it was not your son's fault
16:57 that he got cancer.
16:59 Tell me do you believe that God caused his cancer?"
17:04 And she said, "No."
17:06 She said, "But he could have stopped it and he didn't."
17:10 And so we began to talk about
17:13 Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.
17:16 How God created them with free choice
17:18 and how they made the choice to sin
17:20 and the results of sin and suffering and misery,
17:25 that we see on this planet we call earth,
17:28 we call home.
17:30 We talked about how God has to allow sin to ripe in
17:34 and bear fruit in order that we all
17:37 can see the result of following Satan's way,
17:40 the result of rebellion.
17:42 I think one of the ways Satan tramples on us,
17:45 this woman is by confusing the character of God.
17:49 Maybe you've heard some of his lies.
17:52 He says, "God causes pain, misery and suffering."
17:58 We know that's a lie from the enemy.
18:00 Jesus says in John 10:10,
18:02 "Satan comes to steal, kill and to destroy,
18:05 I have come that you would have life,
18:08 and have it more abundantly."
18:11 Maybe you've heard another one of his lies.
18:14 "God can't love you, God can't love you."
18:17 The Bible says in 1 John 3:1,
18:19 "Behold, what manner of love the Father has bestowed on us,
18:23 that we should be called the sons and daughters of God."
18:27 Also in John 16:27, he says, "The Father himself loves you."
18:34 Many times we think of the God in the Old Testament
18:37 as being harsh, as being stern,
18:40 has being unforgiving, yet at the same time,
18:44 we see the God of the New Testament
18:46 as being loving.
18:47 Jesus says there in John 16, he says,
18:50 "The Father himself loves you." That means, God the Father.
18:56 The God of the Old Testament loves us.
18:59 What about one of these lies?
19:01 God wants to keep you in bondage.
19:04 Jesus says in John 10:10 again,
19:06 "I am come that you would have life,
19:08 and have it more abundantly."
19:12 Also John 8:36, "Whoever the Son sets free,
19:18 is free indeed."
19:20 Satan is the one who wants to keep us in bondage.
19:24 God is the one who wants to set us free.
19:28 Isn't it interesting how Satan so twists
19:31 our understanding that we attribute
19:33 the character traits of Satan to God.
19:36 He so twisted that up.
19:39 The first way, the enemy tramples on us
19:41 is by confusing the character of God.
19:44 The second way he does is through abuse or neglect,
19:49 through pain in your life.
19:52 I was at a women's conference,
19:53 I was not conducting the conference,
19:55 I was attending.
19:56 And they had us break up into groups of two or three
20:00 and a woman came and said,
20:01 "Jill, I would like to pray with you."
20:02 And I said, "Absolutely."
20:05 And we went into the another room to pray,
20:08 and she began to weep, she said,
20:11 "Her dad went to prison for molesting her daughter."
20:17 Now I can't even begin to fathom the pain
20:20 that, that entails.
20:21 The hurt that is in that precious woman's heart,
20:25 the anger, the bitterness, abuse.
20:29 Satan does a pretty good job
20:31 of trampling on us with that abuse.
20:35 Think of Joseph, remember the story of Joseph.
20:39 His brother sold him as a slave.
20:43 Now, maybe some of it was a result of his own choices.
20:46 He told them about his dreams.
20:48 He might have been a little cocky,
20:50 I don't know, but some of it was
20:52 through no choice of his own.
20:54 His father is the one who made him
20:56 the code of color, many colors.
20:58 His father is the one who especially
21:01 showed favoritism to him and created that jealousy
21:05 with the brothers against him.
21:07 Whatever the reason,
21:08 Joseph was sold as a slave into Egypt.
21:11 And remembers at the very end of their life,
21:14 after Jacob had already passed away,
21:16 the brothers were in Egypt.
21:18 The brothers began to get worried
21:20 and they said, "I don't know,
21:22 maybe Joseph has just been nice to us
21:24 'cause daddy's been alive,
21:25 but now I don't know if he's gonna be
21:27 nice to us anymore."
21:29 Genesis 50:20, Joseph says, "As for you,
21:35 you men evil against me, but God meant it for good,
21:40 in order to bring about this day
21:42 to save many people alive."
21:44 God meant it for good.
21:48 God will bring justice.
21:50 God will even the scores of justice.
21:52 It doesn't mean that,
21:54 what was done to you was right, it doesn't mean that.
21:58 It felt good.
22:00 All I'm saying is that God can bring justice,
22:04 and that in the midst of the pain,
22:06 in the midst of the hurt,
22:08 God can pour in His healing into your life,
22:13 into your heart.
22:14 Satan tramples on by confusing the character of God.
22:17 He tramples on us through abuse
22:20 and he tramples on us through offences.
22:23 Maybe someone at church,
22:25 someone at homes, someone in your jobs,
22:27 someone at school, maybe a stranger.
22:31 Maybe they're giving you the cold shoulder.
22:33 Maybe they're gossiping about you
22:35 or telling lies about you or your family.
22:38 Maybe you've been betrayed.
22:41 Maybe someone is broken into your home
22:42 and stolen something.
22:45 Maybe someone has murdered someone
22:47 that you love dearly, whatever the pain,
22:51 whatever the hurt, God asks us to forgive.
22:55 Now, I know it seems impossible.
22:57 Next program we're gonna talk about
22:59 how we actually can forgive.
23:01 But turn very quickly with me to Matthew,
23:03 Matthew Chapter 6,
23:07 "Forgiveness is not optional for the Christian."
23:09 Matthew 6:14, 15, "If you forgive men
23:13 their trespasses..."
23:15 my Bible says, we could say sin.
23:17 "If we forgive men their sin against us,
23:19 our Heavenly father will also forgive us.
23:23 However if we do not forgive men their sins,
23:27 neither will our Father in Heaven forgive us."
23:31 God is not being mean or harsh here,
23:33 it's simply a kingdom principle.
23:36 How can He work in our lives if we won't let Him in?
23:39 If we don't give Him access to our hearts?
23:43 If we hold on to feelings of revenge or bitterness?
23:48 I don't know what pain you have experienced.
23:50 I don't know what hurt there has been
23:52 in your past or maybe right now in the present.
23:55 The Lord Jesus sees and He knows
23:58 and He wants to pour His forgiveness
24:01 into your hearts,
24:02 so you constantly don't have to be
24:04 damaged by the person.
24:06 Next program, we will look at how God does that,
24:10 the steps and the keys for experiencing
24:12 that forgiveness.
24:13 But first, we need to take a break.
24:14 We're gonna give you some practical application,
24:17 something practical you can tape,
24:19 you can work this week on this principle,
24:22 this topic of forgiveness.


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