Heaven's Point of View


Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript

Participants: Hal Steenson (Host)


Series Code: HPOV

Program Code: HPOV000010

00:01 Hi, I'm
00:03 I'd like to welcome and invite you to join us
00:04 in our study on the nine gifts of the Holy Spirit.
00:05 But before we study the last three gifts of the Holy Spirit,
00:08 we are going to take a look at the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
00:13 We have had many of our viewers responding with questions about
00:16 the Holy Spirit and the gifts of the Spirit.
00:18 The questions include: Didn't I receive the Holy Spirit
00:21 when I was born again? Another key question is:
00:24 How do I receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit?
00:27 In addition, there is the question: Do I need the baptism
00:31 of the Holy Spirit in order for the nine gifts of the
00:34 Holy Spirit to operate through me?
00:36 Well, if you'll get your Bibles and stay with us
00:40 for the next half hour, we'll endeavor to answer these
00:43 questions and many others for you on today's
00:46 Heaven's Point of View.
01:09 There are so many misunderstandings
01:11 surrounding the baptism with the Holy Spirit,
01:14 and we are going to clear up several of those here today
01:18 by God's grace and His Word. First, there's the misconception
01:22 that you receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit
01:25 when you are born again. Second, some may believe
01:29 they receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit
01:31 when they are water baptized. Third, there are those who
01:35 believe they must achieve some plateau of spiritual perfection
01:40 before they can receive the baptism with the Holy Spirit.
01:43 And then there are those who believe that the baptism
01:47 of the Holy Spirit is no longer valid in this age.
01:51 Well, in today's study we are going to answer these questions
01:55 and explain the proper prerequisites and procedure
02:00 for receiving the baptism with the Holy Spirit.
02:03 Now this is simple. There are two basic prerequisites
02:08 for the baptism with the Holy Spirit.
02:10 First, you must be born again. John 3:1-3 says:
02:15 "There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus,
02:18 a ruler of the Jews. The same came to Jesus
02:20 by night and said unto Him: 'Rabbi, we know that thou art
02:24 a teacher come from God - for no man can do these miracles
02:28 that Thou doest except God be with Him. '
02:31 Jesus answered and said unto him:
02:33 'Verily, verily I say unto thee: except a man be born again
02:39 he cannot see the kingdom of God. ' "
02:42 This is, this is the place here where I want you to see this:
02:45 It says cannot see the kingdom of God before it says
02:48 enter the kingdom of God. If you are standing at the
02:51 bottom of the Empire State Building, just because you can
02:53 see the top doesn't mean you are there. Are you with me?
02:55 What you have to do is you have to enter all the way in
02:58 and allow God to do a work in you.
03:01 It says: "Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom
03:04 of God. " You must desire, number two, you must desire
03:09 the Holy Spirit. Oh, desire, hunger and thirst!
03:14 says: "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst
03:16 after righteousness " for the might be filled?
03:20 Unh unh! 'they SHALL be filled. "
03:22 God's not going to force anything on us
03:25 that we don't want. When we ask Jesus to come into our lives,
03:28 it's because we desire for Him to be Lord of our lives.
03:32 Not only will He not force Himself on us - He cannot force
03:37 Himself on us. We are drawn by the Holy Spirit
03:40 willing to give our lives to Jesus, repent from our sins
03:43 and allow Jesus to forgive us and cleanse us
03:45 from all unrighteousness. This experience does involve
03:49 the Holy Spirit, and our salvation does include
03:53 the Holy Spirit because they are inseparable.
03:57 We, as Seventh-day Adventists, are a trinitarian church
04:00 and therefore would never attempt to divide the Godhead
04:02 for separation. However, there are times
04:06 when we need to divide for clarification and definition.
04:11 When we separate the Godhead for clarification,
04:15 clarification, we begin to understand the individual
04:19 workings and the ministries of all three.
04:22 If you are born again and you desire
04:25 the baptism of the Holy Spirit,
04:27 then YOU, my friend, are ready to receive Him.
04:32 Many people only consider water baptism when discussing baptism.
04:37 However, the book of Hebrews tells us
04:40 of more than one baptism.
04:42 Hebrews 6:1-3 says:
04:44 "Therefore, leaving the principles of the doctrine of
04:47 Christ let us go on unto perfection - not laying again
04:51 the foundation of repentance from dead works
04:54 and of faith for God of the doctrine of baptisms. "
04:58 Now I want you to hear this. "Of the doctrine of baptisms,
05:01 and of the laying on of hands, and of the resurrection
05:04 of the dead, and of eternal judgment - and this will we do
05:08 if " - what? - "if God permits. "
05:11 Now for many, many, many who believe
05:14 they receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit
05:16 when they are saved or water baptized, please note
05:20 that I did not say you did not receive the Holy Spirit.
05:23 You received the Holy Spirit!
05:25 What I said was you don't receive the baptism
05:29 with the Holy Spirit - and there is a huge difference.
05:34 Now we are going to look at some simple explanations
05:37 that will be backed up by God's Word - the B-I-B-L-E.
05:41 These scriptures and explanations should explain why
05:44 this is not scriptural that you receive it when you are
05:48 saved or baptized, water baptized.
05:50 We are going to examine three different types of baptism.
05:53 Each of these three baptisms has three factors.
05:58 Each one, each baptism, has three factors
06:01 and these factors are:
06:04 Factor 1 is the baptizer.
06:09 Factor 2 is the object.
06:12 Factor 3 is the element or what they are baptized into.
06:17 First we will look at being born again
06:19 or what is commonly referred to as being saved or salvation.
06:23 This is the first baptismal event in the life
06:27 of the new believer. But according to scripture
06:31 it's not the only one. I Corinthians - take note of
06:35 these scriptures. Take notes if you are there with a pencil
06:37 or pen in your home. I Corinthians 12:13 says:
06:40 "For by one Spirit " CAPITAL S there - this is
06:44 referenced to, almost every commentator will tell you
06:46 that its a reference to the Holy Spirit.
06:48 "So by one Spirit " - the Holy Spirit - "are we all "
06:51 - here is this word - "baptized into one body. "
06:55 What body is it? It's the body of Christ.
06:57 "Whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free
07:01 and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. "
07:04 Now this scripture plainly tells us
07:08 that when you are born again, saved, that the baptizer
07:12 is the Holy Spirit.
07:13 The object that's being baptized is the new, born again
07:18 believer, and the element that they are being baptized into
07:22 is the body of Christ.
07:23 Now next we are going to look at water baptism.
07:26 Please take note that all three factors are constant
07:30 and do not change. However, the pesons representing the
07:34 baptizer and the element do change.
07:39 says this: "He that believeth and is baptized
07:43 shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be damned. "
07:46 This is water baptism. The baptizer in water baptism
07:51 is the New Testament church or your pastor.
07:54 The object that is being baptized stays the same.
07:58 It's you - the new believer.
07:59 But the element they are being baptized into changes
08:03 and it is water. This is water baptism.
08:06 The word used for baptism in these scriptures is baptiso -
08:10 which means to immerse, submerge, or dip into.
08:14 When someone is buried, they are lowered into the grave
08:17 and then covered up completely. In the same manner,
08:20 the Holy Spirit submerges us into Jesus
08:24 when we are born again, and the pastor submerges us
08:27 into the baptismal pool at our water baptism.
08:30 It is a complete and total being put into.
08:35 Now the next baptism is the baptism with the Holy Spirit.
08:40 Once again, please take note that all three factors
08:43 remain the same - but the baptizer and the element change.
08:47 In this next text, John the Baptist is speaking
08:51 and it is accepted that he is referring to Jesus.
08:58 says: "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance
09:02 but He that cometh after me is mightier than I -
09:05 whose shoes I am not worthy to bear. He "
09:09 - this is talking about Jesus - " shall baptize you with the
09:12 Holy Ghost and with fire. " Now this is the true baptism
09:16 with the Holy Spirit. In the baptism with the Holy Spirit
09:20 the baptizer changes and it becomes Jesus
09:24 who is doing the baptism. The object that is being baptized
09:28 is still the same. You've been born again,
09:30 you've been water baptized, you're ready to go on with God,
09:33 the new believer - but the element that they are being
09:35 baptized into also changes. Jesus baptizes you into the
09:41 Holy Spirit. Now let's review
09:43 what we have just learned in our lesson today.
09:45 First, when you are born again, the Holy Spirit is the baptizer
09:49 and puts you into the body of Christ.
09:51 This is accomplished in the spiritual realm.
09:55 First is when you are born again. Remember now,
09:59 the first thing is you have got to be born again.
10:01 The baptizer is the Holy Spirit. The object being baptized: you,
10:05 the new believer. The element that's being baptized
10:08 into is the body of Christ.
10:10 When you are water baptized, the New Testament church
10:13 with your pastor officiating, is the baptizer.
10:16 It puts you into the water in the baptismal pool.
10:18 Then, when you are baptized with water, the baptizer
10:23 again becomes the local church. The object is the new believer
10:29 and the element you are being baptized into is water.
10:32 When you are baptized, though, with the Holy Spirit,
10:35 the baptizer becomes Jesus and the element we are baptized
10:39 into is the Holy Spirit.
10:40 Then next, when you are baptized with the Holy Spirit,
10:43 hang on here with me, the baptizer is Jesus
10:48 according to Matthew. The object that's being baptized
10:52 is still you but the element they are being baptized into
10:56 is the Holy Spirit.
10:57 Now let's get back to the third group of people we discussed
11:01 in the opening of today's program.
11:02 The ones who believe we must reach a certain level
11:06 of spiritual maturity before you can receive the baptism
11:10 of the Holy Spirit. This teaching is unscriptural.
11:14 Along with this false teaching is the practice of tarrying
11:17 for the Holy Spirit - which is also unscriptural.
11:21 Now, let's look at the error of tarrying teaching.
11:26 This is where certain Pentecostals say that you
11:29 must tarry for the Holy Spirit the same way the disciples did
11:33 on the Day of Pentecost. The reason the disciples were
11:37 tarrying at Pentecost was that the Holy Spirit was
11:39 not yet given. John 7:37-39 says:
11:43 "In the last day, that great day of the feast,
11:45 Jesus stood and cried saying 'If any man thirst,
11:48 let him come unto Me and drink.
11:50 He that believeth on Me as the scripture hath said
11:55 out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. '
11:58 But this He spake of the Spirit which they that believed on Him
12:02 should receive" - now get this - "for the Holy Ghost
12:05 was not yet given because Jesus was not yet glorified. "
12:08 The Holy Spirit was poured out on the Day of Pentecost
12:12 and has never been removed from that day until now.
12:18 Just to prove it according to the Word of God says:
12:21 "And I will pray the Father, and He will give you
12:24 another Comforter that He may abide with you. "
12:26 For summer vacations? No, through Christmas holidays?
12:29 How about Easter? NO!
12:31 "That He may abide with you forever. " Isn't that wonderful?
12:33 We do not receive the baptism by tarrying, or crying, or begging,
12:38 or pleading. We have complicated the gospel
12:41 Jesus only preached two messages.
12:43 One of them was come here and the other one was go there.
12:49 says: "And I say unto you, ask and it shall be given you;
12:52 seek and you shall find; knock and it shall be opened
12:55 unto YOU. For everyone that asketh receiveth
12:58 and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh
13:01 it shall be opened. If a son shall ask bread
13:04 of any of you that is a father, will you give him a stone?
13:08 Or if he ask fish, will for a fish give him a serpent? "
13:12 I don't think so. "Or if he shall ask an egg,
13:15 will you offer him a scorpion?
13:17 If ye then being evil know how to give good gifts
13:21 unto your children, " WOW...
13:23 "how much more shall your Heavenly Father
13:25 give the Holy Spirit to them " - it's simple -
13:30 That do what? "that ask Him. "
13:32 We receive the Holy Spirit simply by asking the Father
13:35 for the Holy Spirit. There is a however
13:38 something that must accompany the asking,
13:40 and that something is faith.
13:42 We must receive the Holy Spirit
13:44 the same way we accept God - by faith.
13:48 We receive the Holy Spirit the same way we receive Jesus
13:51 and that is by faith!
13:52 Galations 3:2, I love what it says in the Amplified.
13:55 It says: "Let me ask you this one question.
13:58 Did you receive the Holy Spirit as a result of obeying the law
14:01 or doing its works? Or was it by hearing the message
14:05 of the gospel and believing it?
14:08 Was it from observing a law of rituals or from a message
14:11 of faith? " I think it was from a message of faith.
14:14 The only reason for anyone not to receive the baptism
14:16 of the Holy Spirit is that he or she has not been born again.
14:21 John 14:16:
14:23 "I pray the Father and He will give you another Comforter
14:25 that He may abide with you forever - even the
14:27 Spirit of Truth whom the world cannot receive
14:29 because it seeth Him not. " Now get this, OK?
14:32 The world can't receive the Holy Spirit.
14:36 That's the only reason for you not being able to receive
14:39 the Holy Spirit is not being born again.
14:40 It goes on to say: "Neither knoweth Him,
14:43 but ye know Him, for He dwelleth with you and shall dwell in you"
14:46 The world, the lost, cannot receive the Holy Spirit.
14:49 However the world, thank God, thank God,
14:52 However the world, the sinner, can receive Jesus as Lord
14:56 and Saviour and then, when you make Jesus Lord,
14:59 you are now ready to receive the baptism with the Holy Spirit.
15:02 There is no specific order of the second or third baptism.
15:07 The first baptism must be when you are baptized
15:10 into the body of Christ and when you are born again
15:14 and receive salvation. Now let me share some simple truths
15:18 to receiving the baptism with the Holy Spirit, OK?
15:21 No. 1: You must desire the baptism with the Holy Spirit.
15:25 You must be born again before you can receive the baptism
15:28 with the Holy Spirit. And simply you must ASK
15:31 for the Holy Spirit to be baptized with the Holy Spirit.
15:35 You must ask and receive Him also by faith.
15:38 Listen to this statement.
15:40 Powerful, from the Acts of the Apostles 50.2:
16:41 Listen to how Ellen White admonishes us
16:44 to receive the baptism with the Holy Spirit. Powerful:
17:24 Now, let's look at the last three gifts
17:27 from the 12th chapter of I Corinthians.
17:30 These are the gifts of healings, the gift of faith,
17:33 the gift of miracles. These are the gifts
17:35 that my heart cries out to be established in our churches.
17:38 These gifts are the GIFTS TO DO.
17:41 Power gifts, as Jesus and the apostles did.
17:45 These are the gifts our pastoral staff need
17:48 when we receive a prayer call for a six-month old baby girl
17:53 named Mary who had just been diagnosed with cancer
17:57 in both eyes and you want to do more than just
18:01 comfort her parents. First, the gift of healings - pleural.
18:07 The gift of healings are extensions of God's covenant
18:11 name Jehovah-raffa - the Lord our Healer.
18:14 The gift of healings are God's way of healing all manners
18:18 of sicknesses and diseases that afflict humanity.
18:21 A good example would be:
18:25 It says: "And Jesus went about all Galilee
18:28 teaching in their synagogues and preaching the gospel
18:31 of the kingdom and healing " some manner?
18:34 No, not some manner, "ALL MANNER
18:36 of sickness and all manner of diseases among the people.
18:40 And His fame went throughout all Syria
18:43 and they brought unto Him all sick people
18:47 that were taken with diverse diseases and torments
18:51 and those possessed with devils and those which were lunatics. "
18:56 Man, we can clean the hospitals out!
18:58 We can the insane assylums out, the mental institutions out!
19:01 We can clean them out if we were moving this.
19:04 It says: "and those that had the palsy - AND HE HEALED THEM! "
19:07 The remant church will need all these gifts
19:10 as God begins to pour out the Latter Rain.
19:13 It will be our God-given responsibility
19:16 to allow the gifts of the Holy Spirit
19:18 to operate through us to bring souls into right standing
19:24 with Christ. The gift of healings refers
19:27 to the supernatural healing without human aid.
19:30 It is a special gift to confront specific afflictions
19:34 and diseases. The healing can come through the touch of faith.
19:40 "Is any sick among you? Let him call for the elders
19:42 of the church and let them pray over him,
19:44 anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord.
19:47 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick.
19:49 and the Lord shall raise him up
19:51 and if he have committed any sins,
19:54 they will be forgiven him. " Now, the key to this passage
19:57 is the person who is sick is to call for the elders
20:00 not the other way around. Healing can also come by the
20:03 speaking the word of faith. Powerful scripture:
20:08 says: "Now when He had end all of his sayings
20:10 in the audience of the people He entered into Capernaum.
20:13 Anc a certain centurion's servant, who was dear unto him,
20:16 was sick and ready to die. And when he heard of Jesus,
20:20 he sent unto Him the elders of the Jews,
20:22 beseeching Him that He would come and heal his servant.
20:26 And when they came to Jesus they besought him instantly,
20:29 saying, That he was worthy for whom He should do this:
20:33 For he loveth our nation and he hath built us a synagogue.
20:37 Then Jesus went with him, and when He was now not far
20:41 from the house, the centurion sent friends to him, saying
20:44 unto Him, 'Lord, trouble not thyself: for I am not worthy
20:48 that Thou shouldest enter under my roof:
20:50 Wherefore neither thought I myself worthy to come unto Thee
20:54 but say it in a word, say in a word,
21:00 and my servant shall be healed. For I also am a man
21:04 set under authority, having under me soldiers,
21:07 and I say unto one, Go, and he goeth;
21:09 and to another, Come, and he cometh;
21:11 and to my servant, Do this, and he doeth it. '
21:13 When Jesus heard these things, he marveled at him,
21:16 and turned him about, and said unto the people
21:20 that followed Him, 'I say unto you,
21:22 I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel. '
21:26 And they that were sent, returning to the house,
21:30 found the servant whole that had been sick. "
21:33 Now healing can also take place when the presence of God
21:36 is being manifested. Mark 6:56 says:
21:40 "And whithersoever He entered, into villages, or cities,
21:42 or country, they laid the sick in the streets and besought Him
21:46 that they might touch if it were but the border of his garment:
21:50 and as many as touched Him were made whole. "
21:53 The Bible speaks of the gifts of healings
21:57 because there are three major types of healing.
22:00 First, there is physical healing.
22:01 Diabetes, blindness, cancer, deafness, and so on.
22:04 Then there is emotional healing.
22:06 Jealousy, worry, discouragement, and other destructive attitudes.
22:10 Then there is spiritual healing.
22:11 Bitterness, greed, guilt - things that will just
22:14 wear you down. Although there are three main types of healings
22:19 there is much diversity with the gifts of healings.
22:24 While one person might have the gift of healing
22:26 to rid of person of cancer, perform a creative miracle,
22:29 another person might have a diversity of the same gift
22:32 to correct depression problems or remove a root of bitterness.
22:35 Also, according to Mark 16:17-20
22:39 the gifts of healings are available to all believers
22:42 who believe. Mark 16 says:
22:44 "And these signs shall follow them that believe:
22:46 In my name they shall cast out devils,
22:48 they shall speak with new tongues,
22:50 they shall take up serpents;
22:51 and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them.
22:54 They shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover.
22:56 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them,
22:59 He was received up into heaven,
23:01 and sat at the right hand of God.
23:02 And they went forth, and preached everywhere,
23:04 the Lord working with them, and confirming His word
23:07 with signs following. "
23:10 Hey, we are going to take a short break and we'll be back
23:13 right after this. Don't go away.
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24:03 He had been there so long, lying beside the legendary
24:07 pool along with all the sick and frail that were waiting around
24:11 Bethesda pool for the angel to come.
24:13 He knew his chance of reaching the water before anyone else
24:17 was almost out of the question. Nevertheless, he had been sick
24:21 for 38 years and was desperate despite knowing the facts
24:26 about the pool. There was only one pool;
24:29 there would only be one angel to stir the water -
24:32 and no one knew when it would happen.
24:35 He was conscious of the fact that he had to be the
24:38 first person in the water. He had to be the first because
24:42 there would only be one healing.
24:44 His problem was insurmountable because he knew his affliction
24:48 would detain any speedy movement toward the pool.
24:52 He was dreadfully aware that the other people would not
24:56 help him into the water lest they forfeit their opportunity
24:59 to be healed. Even as he surveyed Bethesda,
25:02 the source of recovery for him, he was overwhelmed
25:07 with thoughts of despair. >From the despair of his
25:12 deathbed he heard a voice speaking to him.
25:14 Looking up, he saw someone standing in front of him
25:18 looking down with compassion in His eyes.
25:21 What was it the man had said to him?
25:24 Did He say 'wilt thou be made whole? '
25:27 He responded, 'Sir, I have no man when the water is troubled
25:31 to put me into the pool. But while I am coming
25:33 another steppeth down before me. '
25:35 The stranger spoke again with authority and declared:
25:40 'Rise, take up thy bed, and walk. '
25:42 He didn't know exactly why he reacted so quickly
25:45 without questioning this man, but he got up anyway.
25:49 He got up and immediately he was made whole
25:52 and he took up his bed and he walked.
25:53 And as he walked away from the pool
25:55 with his sleeping bed under his arm,
25:57 he was confronted by the Jews and told that it was unlawful
26:01 to carry his bed on the Sabbath. He answered them,
26:04 He that made me whole, the same said unto me,
26:06 "take up thy bed and walk. " He remembered the question
26:10 the man had asked. He remembered what the man had told him to do
26:13 and he knew he was healed. He knew he no longer needed
26:17 the pool, he no longer needed the people's help,
26:19 and he knew that his problem was gone.
26:21 He also knew that the first thing he was going to do
26:23 was go into the temple and worship God
26:25 because it was the Sabbath. And it had been years
26:27 since he had been there. This is where he found out
26:29 that the Saviour at the spa was Jesus.
26:32 He departed, found the Jews, and told them
26:33 it was Jesus that had made him whole.
26:35 It was Jesus - not the pool - which healed him
26:37 of 38-years' infirmities. It was Jesus - not the people -
26:40 that helped him. As he headed toward his home
26:42 and family, he pondered everything that had happened.
26:45 He had looked to several different things for his source
26:49 when in actuality this source, the entire source of all things,
26:54 was Jesus Christ - and this is all that he needed.
26:59 You know, when we get to the point to where we are moving
27:04 and manifesting the gifts of the Spirit,
27:07 we'll understand that there was nothing supernatural
27:13 about that pool - nothing supernatural...
27:15 until Jesus walked on the scene.
27:17 Then, supernatural took place and he was healed.
27:22 There are people out there sick, afflicted, and dying
27:27 going off out into eternity that need not do this
27:31 because we have not yet come into the truth
27:34 of the gifts of the Spirit. We need them.
27:36 Why? I said earlier
27:37 for the protection of the church to give us the authority
27:40 of the believer over every work of the enemy.
27:43 When we begin to lay hold of the truths
27:46 of the gifts of the Spirit of God,
27:49 embrace them and pull them into our heart, and allow Jesus
27:53 to receive all the glory for it,
27:55 we are going to see people saved, healed, set free,
27:59 delivered, and living their lives
28:03 for our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
28:05 This is what I desire. Is it what you desire?
28:08 Because it's what God desires.
28:30 On our next Heaven's Point of View,
28:32 we are going to be looking at the last two
28:34 gifts of the Spirit: the charisma gift of faith
28:38 and the charisma gift of miracles.
28:40 It's going to be very exciting. Check your 3ABN World
28:42 for the dates and times; I'll see you there!


Revised 2014-12-17