Heaven's Point of View

Instructions to Wives, Part 1

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript

Participants: Shelley Quinn (Host), Tom Shepherd


Series Code: HPOV

Program Code: HPOV000028A

00:01 Heaven's Point of View
00:15 Hello I'm Shelley Quinn and this is Dr. Tom Sheperd
00:19 and we welcome you to Heaven's Point of View.
00:22 This is a series on love, marriage, sex and divorce
00:26 and today we are going to be talking about
00:29 instructions to wives.
00:31 One of the key concepts in the Bible,
00:33 of having a "Blessed Marriage" is to submit to the Lord
00:40 and be in submission
00:42 and that's what we're going to be talking about today.
00:45 Yes, we've been looking in the book of Ephesians already
00:47 but now we're going to look specifically
00:49 at the instructions that Paul gives to people
00:52 in the Christian household,
00:53 so we want to turn to Ephesians chapter 5,
00:56 and we're going to read the entire passage
01:00 because Paul has instructions for the entire household
01:04 and sometimes it's... people will listen to...
01:07 or read part of it but not the whole thing,
01:10 so, Ephesians 5 verses 21 through chapter 6 verse 9
01:15 so a little bit of a section.
01:17 All right... Ephesians chapter 5 then verse 21,
01:20 "Submitting to one another in the fear of God.
01:24 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord.
01:27 For the husband is head of the wife,
01:29 as also Christ is head of the church:
01:32 and He is the Savior of the body.
01:34 Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ,
01:37 so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.
01:40 Husbands, love your wives,
01:42 just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her,
01:45 that He might sanctify and cleanse her
01:47 with the washing of water by the word,
01:49 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church,
01:53 not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing,
01:56 but that she should be holy and without blemish.
01:59 So husbands ought to love their own wives
02:03 as their own bodies;
02:05 he who loves his wife loves himself.
02:08 For no one ever hated his own flesh,
02:10 but nourishes and cherishes it,
02:13 just as the Lord does the church.
02:15 For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones.
02:19 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother
02:24 and be joined to his wife,
02:26 and the two shall become one flesh. '
02:28 This is a great mystery,
02:30 but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
02:33 Nevertheless let each one of you in particular
02:36 so love his own wife as himself,
02:38 and let the wife see that she respects her husband. "
02:41 Chapter 6... "Children, obey your parents
02:45 in the Lord, for this is right.
02:47 'Honor your father and mother'
02:49 which is the first commandment with promise;
02:51 'that it may be well with you
02:52 and you may live long on the earth. '
02:55 And you, fathers,
02:56 do not provoke your children to wrath,
02:59 but bring them up in the training
03:01 and admonition of the Lord.
03:03 Bondservants, be obedient to those who are your masters
03:06 according to the flesh, with fear and trembling,
03:09 in sincerity of heart, as to Christ;
03:12 not with eye service, as men-pleasers,
03:15 but as bondservants of Christ,
03:18 doing the will of God from the heart,
03:19 with goodwill doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men,
03:23 knowing that whatever good anyone does,
03:25 he will receive the same from the Lord,
03:27 whether he is a slave or free.
03:30 And you, masters, do the same things to them,
03:34 giving up threatening,
03:36 knowing that your own Master also is in heaven,
03:39 and there is no partiality with Him. "
03:42 Hmmm... hmmm... quite a passage.
03:44 That is quite a passage, it covers it all doesn't it?
03:47 It does, yeah, when you go back over this passage
03:50 and take a look at it, you notice that there are
03:53 pairs of people, wives and husbands,
03:57 children and parents, slaves and masters,
04:01 now, these were groupings of people
04:04 or different roles people had in the Greco-Roman household,
04:08 and so, you have these two pairs
04:12 and he responds, and he speaks to each,
04:14 so he has something to say to everybody in the household
04:17 that's kind of the first thing you can take away from it
04:20 and he has something to talk to... each of them.
04:23 We've already noted in the context
04:25 that we've studied before this,
04:28 the importance of being filled with God's spirit
04:31 and that the filling of the Spirit,
04:35 is expressed in the verses
04:38 just before what you've read for us
04:40 just before that... it is expressed in five...
04:43 what we call... participles... or...
04:45 well, they are "ing" words in English
04:48 like running and hopping and singing,
04:50 those would all be participles
04:51 okay... and it's kind of like a verbal adjective,
04:54 and there are five of these in verses 19 to 21,
04:57 speaking, singing, praising, thanking and then, surprise...
05:02 submitting, so... knowing God's will for the house
05:08 is what... the household,
05:09 the people that make up the Christian household
05:11 is what we're going to be talking about.
05:13 It's the household instructions and it can only be fulfilled
05:17 if a person is filled with the Holy Spirit,
05:20 only by the Spirit is it possible
05:22 for us to really do what Paul now tells us to do.
05:26 Okay, so, the key phrase is in verse 21,
05:31 it's not uncommon that Paul in writing will
05:36 sort of give a thesis statement and then he'll explain it
05:42 okay, so the thesis statement is really here in verse 21,
05:47 so maybe we should read that one verse once again.
05:50 Verse 21, "Submitting to one another in the fear of God"
05:57 how does yours read?
05:59 Mine says, "Submitting to one another
06:01 out of reverence for Christ"
06:03 yeah, there's a difference in some manuscripts
06:05 have the word, "God," some have the word, "Christ,"
06:07 but it's reverence or fear that they have,
06:11 so, there's a... there are actually two aspects
06:14 to this thesis statement, okay,
06:16 the first one is the idea of "submission"
06:20 and the second one is the idea of "in the fear of Christ"
06:26 all right, so we got to unpack these two ideas.
06:30 So, what does submission mean here?
06:33 Well, the Greek word is "epotasso"
06:37 some pronounce it hupotassó and it means to...
06:41 in the active voice it means
06:45 "to subject or subordinate somebody"
06:47 to put them underneath someone
06:50 now, it's actually a compound word,
06:53 with the word "epo" or "hupo" which means: under or below
07:00 and the word "tasso" and tasso is a...
07:03 was a military word,
07:04 it was a word that you used to line up troops,
07:07 you would line up the troops,
07:09 and get them ready for battle, see...
07:12 so, "epotasso" is to put somebody under
07:15 like... the control or the direction of somebody else
07:18 the English word that we would have for that
07:21 would be to subjugate, okay,
07:23 but here it's not in that form, it's in the, what we call,
07:27 passive voice, and in the passive voice,
07:30 it means to be subject to subordinate oneself
07:34 or to submit to somebody else.
07:37 It's a willingness to be under someone's authority if you will.
07:44 Okay, so, that's the kind of concept here,
07:48 now, it's interesting that he says,
07:50 "You submit to one another. "
07:53 Right.
07:55 Submit to one another, we got more to say about that,
07:57 we'll talk about that in a little bit,
07:58 but, first we want to look at...
08:01 further at this idea of reverence for Christ
08:05 or the fear of Christ.
08:08 So many people misunderstand that word, "fear. "
08:10 It's true, it's true, we got to unpack that
08:13 so, but, the fear of Christ or the reverence for Christ
08:16 is the reason why you submit.
08:19 That's the reason why you submit to one another
08:22 it's because of reverence for Christ,
08:25 it's like... if you go back to the story of Joseph,
08:29 and Potiphar's wife wants him to go to bed with her,
08:33 and he has this wonderful explanation he gives to her,
08:37 he says, "My master has made me in charge of all the household,"
08:41 so first, I have a relationship with my master,
08:43 "and nothing in this house is under...
08:48 has he reserved to himself,
08:51 except you because you are his wife
08:53 so I have a relationship with to the master,
08:55 I have to be faithful to the master,
08:57 you, by the way, are his wife,
08:59 and ought not to be asking me that, right?"
09:02 Okay, but then he goes on and he says,
09:05 "How could I do this and sin against God?"
09:07 He's living in the presence of God,
09:12 that's this concept of "fear," he has this reverence for God.
09:15 And I love that Scripture because to me it proves...
09:18 it's one of the proofs that God's Ten Commandments
09:20 were in effect before Mount Sinai, yeah.
09:23 Right, before Mount Sinai, okay so...
09:26 so here's this idea of reverence or fear...
09:29 And that's what that word, "fear"
09:31 when some of us, in English, if we say, "fear,"
09:34 it's kind of to... Tom: Afraid...
09:36 Yeah, and you're just start trembling and afraid but
09:39 here the word "fear" is like a "reverent awe of God. "
09:43 Yes, you could say it's somewhat like
09:45 going to Niagara Falls.
09:48 Okay.
09:50 Niagara Falls is beautiful but you have respect for it,
09:53 you don't get too close because it's so powerful
09:56 because it could kill you if you stood under the water,
09:58 it's just so powerful, so you have a... you fear it...
10:03 in the sense that you notice how powerful it is,
10:06 you respect that and you don't play with it
10:11 so actually in Scripture when the word
10:12 "fear... the fear of God" is used,
10:14 there's a little bit of that trembling because you recognize
10:17 He's powerful, He's no...
10:18 well as C.S. Lewis said about Christ figure
10:22 in his Narnia books, that the Aslan figure,
10:25 this Lion... and he said, "he's not a tame lion"
10:27 he's not somebody you just...
10:30 I love the analogy of the Niagara Falls,
10:32 that was really good.
10:34 Yeah, so, this relationship to Christ sets the course
10:38 for all the relationships within the Christian home,
10:41 that's important to recognize, the relationship to Christ,
10:45 this fear of Christ, this reverence for Christ,
10:47 sets the course for all the relationships
10:49 in fact, it modifies all the relationships.
10:51 So, may I... let me make sure we're understanding is that...
10:55 when we say that it's essential and sets the course,
11:00 that the husband is in fear of the Lord,
11:02 that the wife is in fear of the Lord,
11:05 that the children are in fear of the Lord,
11:06 because this is how the whole system of submission works.
11:11 Yeah, like, say the... the relationships are modified,
11:15 see in the Greco-Roman world, the father was pretty much it,
11:18 he was called the "Pater familias"
11:20 and he was large and in charge,
11:22 he was... everything was in his hands, pretty much,
11:25 the Apostle Paul takes in... shifts this idea
11:28 because everything is in relationship to Christ,
11:31 it's a Christian home, don't be surprised,
11:33 so everything is in relationship to this fear for Christ,
11:38 you don't just do anything, so, it sets the course
11:41 it modifies relationships and it sets limits,
11:44 limits on how much submission there is to be,
11:47 limits on how power is to be used
11:50 all of these things are related to this idea
11:53 in reference to Christ, okay,
11:54 so, we probably should understand a little bit more
11:58 about how Paul uses the idea of fear and kinds of fear.
12:02 Keep our hand here in Ephesians,
12:04 mark that one so you don't lose it,
12:07 and turn over to Romans 8 verse 15,
12:10 Paul uses the word, "fear" in a variety of ways,
12:15 this is just one of them, Romans 8 verse 15,
12:19 Romans 8 and verse 15, says, "For you did not receive
12:26 the spirit of bondage again to fear;
12:29 but you received the Spirit of adoption,
12:32 by whom we cry out, 'Abba, Father. '"
12:34 All right and notice the word "fear" is there isn't it?
12:36 Yes.
12:38 And that you would fall back into fear, all right,
12:41 what does that mean, well, it's referring back to
12:45 the person before they knew Christ,
12:47 and this fear of judgment that you're under God's judgment
12:51 and you're afraid of that, he doesn't want you to
12:54 fall back into that kind of fear because
12:56 you've been redeemed.
12:57 So, that's what John... in 1st John... when he says that
13:00 "Perfect love casts out fear" that's what he's saying.
13:03 Yeah, yeah, that kind of fear... the fear of judgment, okay,
13:04 now, he does use the term a lot
13:07 to refer to reverence and awe for who God is...
13:11 the Creator, the Savior, it is respect for His authority,
13:14 maybe one of the good ones for us to look at
13:18 is Romans 11 verse 19,
13:21 since we're already in the book of Romans,
13:22 just turn over to Romans 11 verse 19,
13:24 it's kind of an interesting verse
13:27 where the Gentiles are talking about
13:30 how the Jews were... fell away...
13:33 so that... and then they came into the church,
13:36 look at verse 19.
13:37 Romans 11:19, "You will say then,
13:40 'Branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. '"
13:44 Am I in the right place?
13:45 Yes, hmmm... hmmm... keep going.
13:47 "Well said, because of unbelief,
13:49 they were broken off and you stand by faith.
13:53 Do not be haughty but fear... " ah ha...
13:58 So he doesn't...
13:59 in chapter 8, he doesn't want you to fall back into fear...
14:01 the fear of judgment, but he wants you to realize
14:05 that when you're a Christian, and if you get proud,
14:08 you know, he says, "Wait a minute,
14:11 this pride... you have no basis for this pride"
14:15 he says, "these branches were broken off,
14:17 so that I can be grafted in that's true,
14:19 but you only stand by faith,
14:21 so don't be proud, instead, have reverence. "
14:25 Yeah, because if God broke off the natural branches,
14:28 he said, He can break you off.
14:29 He can break you off as well, that's exactly right,
14:32 so you have to have reverence for God,
14:34 he uses it a number of ways but basically we can suggest
14:39 that the idea of the fear of God
14:42 has two effects on the Christian,
14:44 one is it guards the new life
14:47 against the false security
14:50 that you can just do as you please,
14:52 and second, it guides the new life
14:54 so that you live for Jesus, it guards it and it guides it,
14:58 so reverence for Christ means,
15:00 yes, you recognize you have been saved,
15:03 you recognize that it's by the grace of God,
15:06 you stand by faith and you dare not trust yourself.
15:11 You can have assurance of salvation
15:14 but you're not to be presumptuous to think that
15:17 you can live loosely and still count on that assurance.
15:22 Yeah and just do as you please...
15:23 Your life now is in relationship to Christ,
15:27 so you must follow him, it guards the new life
15:30 and it guides the new life, those two different ideas.
15:33 That's excellent, so now, before...
15:37 this is fear before Christ, now, he also...
15:42 Paul used the word to respect other humans.
15:47 Yes, he does, in Romans 13, I guess we can turn to Romans 13
15:50 we're all in Romans here, Romans 13 verse 7,
15:52 Romans 13 and verse 7 says,
15:59 "Render therefore to all their dues:
16:03 taxes to whom taxes are due; customs to whom customs;
16:08 fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour. "
16:13 Yeah, so respect or fear to whom...
16:14 so, the people that are
16:16 in positions of authority in Government,
16:18 we should respect them because they have that position,
16:21 the God-given position of taking care of Society,
16:25 so you respect them,
16:26 over in Ephesians 5 that we've been looking at,
16:29 he will talk about this within the family,
16:31 he tells the wife to respect her husband,
16:33 okay... to have that kind of respect for him as well,
16:37 so, we can summarize all of this,
16:39 we can say that Paul calls for submission to one another
16:44 placing oneself under another person's leadership, right.
16:48 Now, the atmosphere or reason for this
16:52 that you do this is because of reverence for Christ,
16:57 meaning deep respect for who He is,
17:00 what He has done and the future that He set before us,
17:03 so, there are certain things that you can do,
17:06 there are certain things that you cannot do,
17:08 I... many times when talking about this idea of fear
17:12 I tell a story to help illustrate it is,
17:15 a ten-year-old boy and chocolate chip cookies,
17:18 and his mother... my wife, by the way,
17:22 makes amazing chocolate chip cookies,
17:25 I'm coming to your house.
17:26 We have a ministry that we do where I visit the young men
17:30 in the dormitory and pray with them,
17:31 and the way to get in the door is those chocolate chip cookies,
17:36 and they really love the chocolate chip cookies
17:41 that she makes and they appreciate prayer
17:43 but this ten-year-old boy... he comes in,
17:45 and his mother has just made chocolate chip cookies
17:47 and they're just on the rack, you know,
17:49 they're warm and still fresh and the chocolate is still warm
17:53 and moist... and so he comes in and he looks around
17:57 and he doesn't see his mother...
17:59 and the smell of those wonderful cookies,
18:02 and he's inching closer and closer,
18:04 he's about to take one of those cookies
18:06 when his mother walks into the room,
18:07 he starts whistling and he starts walking off and says,
18:11 "I'm going to play baseball, Mom, see you later. "
18:13 Now, why couldn't he take that cookie?
18:15 Out of respect for his mother,
18:18 fear for this mother.
18:20 If he were to put his hand on one of those cookies,
18:23 you can be sure that she would say,
18:25 "Young man, what do you think you're doing?
18:26 You can't eat that cookie now, wait till after dinner,"
18:28 you know, she would lay it to him,
18:30 so because he lived in the presence of his mother,
18:34 see... he couldn't do that thing.
18:37 Oh! boy, that's wonderful.
18:39 Because he had respect for her.
18:41 Because if we think about that, then out of...
18:43 if we are living in that awareness of the divine...
18:47 awareness of Christ's presence in our life,
18:50 if we're living, then we won't do things
18:52 because, we recognize he's there and we wouldn't do that.
18:57 Yeah, there are some things you can do,
18:58 and there are other things you cannot do,
19:01 there are some things you must do,
19:02 there are some things you must not do
19:04 and he says that the submission
19:07 that is the terminology
19:09 that controls the entire household code,
19:13 is all in relationship to this reverence for Christ.
19:17 You know, there is... and I know we're going to get more
19:20 into this in our next Program
19:22 but this is one thing that I had found
19:25 that... particularly it seems with younger women
19:30 who want to be more assertive in relationships,
19:35 who've... sometimes they'll just have such a difficult time
19:39 thinking about this idea of being submissive,
19:42 and I think we're going to talk more in the next Program,
19:46 this is not a doormat position but there can only be,
19:50 you know, any animal, in any...
19:52 if there's any animal that has more than one head,
19:56 it's a freak, and so there can only be
19:59 one head in the family, or it's a freakish family
20:03 but it's... it's... I always tell young brides
20:07 when we're counseling, I'll tell them,
20:09 the man may have been... God placed the man as the head,
20:13 of course, he has to be in submission to Christ,
20:16 but you're the neck that turns the head, you know, so,
20:20 it's easy for me to be submissive to my husband
20:26 because my husband loves me as Christ loves the church
20:30 just like the Scripture says.
20:32 Well, we'll see much more of this as we walk through this
20:35 because we got like three programs to try to understand
20:38 this idea of submission and what it means
20:40 because it's very easy to be misunderstood,
20:43 and it's very easy to be abused,
20:45 there are people who will say,
20:47 "I am the head of this household"
20:49 you know, that will be very strong and forceful.
20:51 But now, Paul, you know, some people have the idea that
20:55 when Paul is saying, in verse 21, I believe it is,
20:59 that we are to submit to one another
21:02 that he's speaking of every member in the family
21:05 submitting to one another,
21:07 do you think that's what he's saying?
21:10 Well, yes and no, I used to say, "No"
21:14 but then I thought about it a bit more
21:17 as I was working in this class and of teaching this,
21:20 yes and no, now, here's the "yes" side of it
21:24 first we remember that verse 21 is the thesis statement
21:32 for the entire passage, right,
21:37 now, in many Bibles, if we look at that,
21:39 you might not sense that because, in my Bible,
21:44 the section chapter 5 starts with the title that says,
21:49 "walk in love" and it goes all the way through
21:51 verse 21, and then section... starting in verse 22,
21:54 seems to be a new section, "Wives and Husbands,"
21:57 so people kind of separate it and say,
22:00 "Oh no, that's from the previous context,
22:02 that's not related to this at all,"
22:04 well, there's a problem with that,
22:06 and the problem is this,
22:08 in verse 21 we have that last participle,
22:11 the fifth of the five... submitting to one another
22:14 and verse 22 doesn't even have a participle,
22:17 it doesn't have any verb at all,
22:18 no participle, nothing, now, that would be bad English,
22:22 but it's good Greek,
22:24 he borrows the idea of submission
22:28 from verse 21, and places it in verse 22,
22:31 so there's nowhere... when you read in your Bible...
22:34 So, there's no "submit" in verse 22 actually in the Greek,
22:37 It doesn't say, "Wives, submit to your own
22:40 husbands as to the Lord," it doesn't say that... it says,
22:42 "Wives to your own husbands as to the Lord," well...
22:45 Obviously, dependent upon...
22:47 On the previous verse... which means that
22:49 verse 22 is tied in to verse 21, intimate connection to it,
22:54 right, so, the first thing we start off with and we say is,
22:57 "Look, verse 21 is the thesis statement
23:01 for the entire passage"
23:03 and that will become more clear as we go on here,
23:05 but... so you have to take it by faith, a little bit now,
23:09 but if it's the thesis statement,
23:11 then, what we can say is,
23:13 if it only applied to some people
23:15 and not to everybody,
23:17 it wouldn't be the thesis statement, now, would it?
23:19 Okay, so, that's the first step, all right,
23:23 but we'll turn around and we'll say,
23:24 "Well, no, it's not submitting to one another
23:28 in the sense that the apostle describes pairs of people,
23:33 wives and husbands, children and parents,
23:38 slaves and masters, in each case,
23:41 these two pairs... there's a power differential
23:43 between them in the home,
23:44 it's easier seen with the children and the parents
23:47 or with the slaves and the masters,
23:49 obvious power difference,
23:51 so now actually, Paul is describing the same
23:53 between husbands and wives but when he describes this,
23:57 he never tells parents to obey their children,
24:00 I can hear some parents out there saying, "Amen,"
24:04 but he never tells parents to obey their children,
24:08 he never tells masters to obey their slaves,
24:10 he never tells husbands, he never specifically says
24:13 when he talks to husbands, "submit to their wives,"
24:16 so, in that sense, no... he doesn't say,
24:18 this term, "Submit to one another"
24:22 he doesn't refer to the leader, okay...
24:25 But he does tell the husband and the master and the parent
24:29 to be submissive to Christ.
24:31 Not only that but... he will illustrate each way
24:34 that these individuals are related to Christ
24:38 and how they are to use the power that they have
24:41 and he always modifies or limits that power.
24:45 Like the husbands are to love their wives
24:48 as they do their own body, they are...
24:51 parents are not to exasperate,
24:53 "Fathers don't exasperate your child
24:55 with strong discipline,"
24:57 you're not to frustrate that poor child
25:00 and browbeat the child,
25:02 and the masters are to be kind to the slaves.
25:05 Yeah, they're not supposed to, he says,
25:07 "stop threatening"
25:09 now, actually a person who threatens,
25:12 this is a little strange but the person who threatens,
25:16 or a person who forces other people...
25:19 is actually weaker because
25:22 the other person doesn't recognize their power,
25:24 so they're having to show it, you see...
25:26 when people recognize your status or your power,
25:30 you don't have to go out of your way to force them to do so,
25:34 all right, so,
25:35 Paul always takes their position of power,
25:39 and he says, "Look, that power has to be used
25:42 to bless other people, so, in one sense,
25:47 he will say, "Yes, everybody submits"
25:52 everybody submits to Christ,
25:54 but everybody has a different role
25:56 and each role, whatever role you're in,
26:00 he will say, he will show...
26:02 as we walk through the husbands and wives
26:04 who we're particularly looking at
26:05 in this series of programs, in each of these cases,
26:09 he will show that you are to use
26:12 your understanding of Christ,
26:15 you should use that reference for Christ
26:16 to use what the Bible teaches about
26:18 your relationship to Christ,
26:20 now becomes the guiding spirit, the guiding direction
26:23 of how you are to relate to people in your family,
26:26 it is a Christian home, and he thoroughly Christianizes
26:32 the Greco-Roman household.
26:34 So that it isn't like the Greco-Roman household,
26:38 where the man was
26:39 the "all in all... crack the whip," not at all.
26:42 Oh my! you read some of those stories about
26:45 and what they said about women
26:46 and the women were stupid
26:49 or where they weren't as good as men,
26:51 and the men had to control them
26:53 and a whole variety of things like that
26:56 so, Paul is...
26:58 now, a lot of people today
26:59 they'll look at this and they'll say,
27:01 "This is terrible, he's so backwards,
27:04 he's so controlling," and so forth...
27:07 actually within that context of where you're speaking,
27:11 he's quite radical in terms of reordering the home
27:14 and making it a positive place for all members involved.
27:19 And I think that... we're out of time...
27:22 from what I know but, you're going to really enjoy
27:25 our study, the next couple of studies
27:27 on this because as I said,
27:29 when it's done properly, it is easy...
27:32 a woman will easily submit to her husband,
27:35 thankfully submit to her husband,
27:36 if she has a husband who is loving her
27:39 as Christ loves the church who is being that supportive
27:44 and looking for her benefit and it's not going to be
27:48 a situation...
27:49 we're not going to be trying to tell you that
27:51 you're supposed to be a doormat for your husband
27:53 because that's not it at all,
27:54 thank you so much, our time has long gone
27:57 we just so appreciate your being here,
27:59 and for those of you at home, our prayer is that
28:03 God will multiply His mercy, His love and His grace to you.


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