Heaven's Point of View

Sex in the United States

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript

Participants: J.D. Quinn (Host), Tom Shepherd


Series Code: HPOV

Program Code: HPOV000033A

00:16 Welcome to Heaven's Point of View.
00:17 My name is J.D. Quinn.
00:20 We are gonna be talking on this series,
00:21 love, marriage, sex and divorce according to the New Testament.
00:25 And it's my privilege to be able to share this time
00:29 with Dr. Tom Shepherd.
00:31 And, Tom, we are getting into some heavy stuff here.
00:35 We are beginning to-- well, we're gonna talk about sex.
00:39 Yep.
00:40 That's where, a lot I know that
00:42 that's caught a lot of people's attention.
00:43 And at this time probably before we kick this thing,
00:47 I think it's important that people know
00:49 that you're not only have a,
00:53 you're professor of New Testament interpretation,
00:56 but you also have a doctorate in public health.
01:00 Yes.
01:01 And so in dealing with from that particular,
01:05 then we are gonna look into how powerful sex is.
01:10 Yes.
01:11 And so if you want--
01:13 We look at some statistics to talk about
01:14 sexual mores and sexual practices
01:17 within the United States.
01:18 Okay. From a number of good books.
01:20 Yes.
01:22 So I guess that what we're trying to do is kind of
01:24 see how the New Testament--
01:27 Yeah, we are gonna look at terms of how, what happens is,
01:30 it's happening in American society today
01:32 compares to what's happening in Corinth
01:34 because we're gonna read
01:35 1 Corinthians 6, 1 Corinthians 7.
01:37 Yes. Yes.
01:39 Let's go with it. Okay.
01:40 So we start at the beginning
01:42 and the first thing that I say to people
01:44 and I say this in my class is that sex is dynamite.
01:48 Sex is dynamite.
01:49 Now if you think of dynamite sex,
01:53 dynamite has two very important characteristics.
01:56 Yeah. It's very powerful.
01:58 Very powerful.
01:59 It's very powerful and if you take so,
02:02 you know, it's not something you just fool around with.
02:05 You won't just say, hey,
02:06 let's just throw that stick of dynamite over there
02:07 because well, you might be dead if you do something like that.
02:10 So dynamite is very powerful, handle with care, right.
02:16 The other thing about dynamite is very interesting.
02:19 If we were to set off a stick of dynamite in this room,
02:21 it would really mess up quite a bit of things.
02:23 Yeah.
02:25 But if we were to go to say one of the foundation pillars
02:30 or corners of this building and we were to drill a hole
02:33 into the foundation
02:35 and we would put a stick of dynamite
02:36 in there and set it off,
02:38 it would bring down a lot more of thing,
02:40 of the whole place.
02:42 So the point is that when dynamite is confined,
02:46 its power is enhanced.
02:48 Enhanced.
02:49 Because it, you know, it's explosive
02:51 against something that's solid.
02:53 Yes. Now sex is just like that.
02:58 Sex is very, very powerful.
03:00 It's one of the fundamental drives
03:02 that God has placed in every human being
03:04 and it is so powerful,
03:07 it drives people to do all kinds of things,
03:09 sometimes some very foolish things
03:11 when they are not careful about it.
03:13 And this is really the reason why Christian teaching says
03:19 that sex is so powerful, so valuable actually
03:22 that you just confine it to marriage.
03:24 Yes.
03:26 Now researchers have looked into this
03:28 to try to determine
03:30 who has the most pleasure in sex.
03:35 You know, if you only watched Hollywood movies
03:37 or listen to the media,
03:39 you would think that the people who have
03:41 the most sex and the most enjoyment of sex
03:45 are people who are running around
03:48 with lots of sex partners
03:49 and they are probably not married
03:53 and they are, if they are, they are unfaithful
03:55 to their spouse and they are,
03:56 you know, they are just going with lots of different people.
03:59 Actually the data from scientific studies
04:04 indicate that's not the case.
04:06 That is not the case. Well, what is the case?
04:08 Well, here's the interesting thing.
04:10 University of Chicago some time ago
04:11 did a study on some of this
04:14 and they found that conservative Christian women,
04:17 think it was a group of Protestant women actually.
04:19 Conservative Protestant women
04:20 reported the highest level of sexual satisfaction
04:23 among any of the groups that they studied.
04:26 Wow.
04:27 And this really kind of surprised the researchers,
04:30 you know, and it was a different paradigm.
04:34 Usually these conservative Christian women
04:36 are considered purge.
04:38 You know, they are considered, they must not enjoy it.
04:41 They don't even want it.
04:42 They keep themselves covered up all the time.
04:44 So that's leaves that they're stereotype.
04:47 Yeah, stereotype. Yeah.
04:48 So, you know, I'd like to joke with the young men
04:51 sometime in my class.
04:52 I say, "Now you know this is what they discovered
04:55 that there were these young conservative,
04:58 these conservative women have the most sexual satisfaction."
05:01 I said, "Young men, you came to a Christian college.
05:05 And not only did you come to a Christian college,
05:08 you came to a conservative Christian college.
05:11 And guess what, it is conservative Christian college,
05:14 there are conservative Christian women,
05:16 you came to the right place.
05:19 Amen. Amen.
05:20 You see, you came to right place so.
05:21 Well, let's look at the good news about the young people,
05:24 about their sexual mores.
05:25 Yeah, and there is some good news out there
05:27 that there was, this was reported
05:29 by the Centers for Disease Control
05:31 in one of their reports in 2008 and they found
05:36 that there were decreases in a number of risky behaviors
05:40 among high school students between 1991 and 2007.
05:44 Amen.
05:45 They found that the group of young people
05:47 who had ever had sexual intercourse
05:49 was down 12 percent.
05:51 They found that those who had
05:53 had four or more sexual partners
05:55 was down 20 percent.
05:58 They found that the percentage of the students
06:00 that were currently sexually active
06:02 was down 7 percent.
06:04 Right, so these are all things going in the right direction.
06:07 That's good news.
06:09 Because for young people to be doing these things
06:12 and to before they are married is usually is risky behavior
06:17 and it's harmful behavior.
06:18 And there is certain major consequences to follow that.
06:21 Oh, yeah.
06:22 Now let's look at the flip side, what is the bad side.
06:24 Unfortunately there is some bad news.
06:27 Even with those decreases that we've mentioned here,
06:31 the following statistics were also reported
06:34 among US high school students in 2007
06:37 ever had sexual intercourse 47.8 percent.
06:41 That's amazing.
06:42 Almost one in two, almost half of them.
06:45 Had four or more sexual partners
06:48 in their lifetime about 15 percent,
06:50 14.9, one in seven.
06:52 And this is high school students?
06:54 These are high school students, US high school students.
06:56 Currently sexually active, 35 percent, about one in three.
07:00 So I mean, this is rampant.
07:02 I mean, that's a lot of people.
07:05 Half of them have had sex,
07:07 a third of them are currently active
07:09 and a small group but not that small
07:12 15 percent are doing terribly risky behaviors.
07:16 You know, they have had
07:17 four or more sexual partners in their lifetime.
07:20 From another study that was published in 2011
07:25 in the college age group.
07:26 Now the college age group is an older age group
07:30 18 to 23 around that age period.
07:33 They also looked into the number of sexual partners,
07:37 lifetime sexual partners that these young people have had.
07:41 And the shocking figure is that
07:45 for those who had never had a sexual partner,
07:48 they had never had sex was only 16 percent.
07:53 It's amazing.
07:54 So about 85 percent of the students in college
07:58 had had sex.
07:59 Now in high school, it was about 50 percent
08:02 but it went up to 85 percent by the end of college.
08:07 And they get to, you know, how many partners,
08:10 number of partners they had.
08:11 The really shocking stuff though was they had a group
08:14 where they would say that they had
08:16 had five to ten sexual partners
08:18 or and they even had a group that was 11 plus.
08:22 Of the five to ten group it was about
08:25 anywhere from 23 to 26 percent of these young people.
08:29 The 11 plus group was 10 to 14 percent.
08:32 You are talking about one third of the college students
08:37 have had five or more sexual partners in their lifetime.
08:40 I mean, these are young people that are in their early 20s.
08:44 You know, so it's shocking kind of statistic.
08:47 It's amazing. It's amazing. Yeah.
08:49 Lots of unfortunate promiscuity.
08:52 The same researchers
08:54 investigated the characteristics of those
08:57 with five or more sexual partners.
08:59 So they took that last group of five to ten and 11 plus
09:05 and they said, now, are there certain kinds of
09:08 characteristics about these young people,
09:10 you know, that are more common among them
09:13 and here's what they found.
09:15 Men who were in that group were more likely to take risks.
09:19 Like I said, that doesn't come as much of a surprise.
09:21 They were more likely to drink regularly
09:25 and they were more likely to attend church irregularly.
09:30 So they were going all in the wrong places and--
09:33 And they were just, they were party people.
09:34 Yeah.
09:36 Women, they were more likely to drink regularly
09:39 and they were more likely to have had an abortion.
09:42 Wow.
09:43 All of this because of their promiscuous lifestyle.
09:46 So these are sad kind of statistics.
09:49 Now these are numbers, these are percentages
09:52 but every single one of these
09:54 represents an individual whose life is hurt.
09:59 Now in the same book on Premarital Sex in America,
10:02 the author is making an intriguing claim about
10:04 sexual relationships.
10:06 They say this on page 52 in their book.
10:08 "Sex is not entirely a private matter
10:11 between two people, Baumeister and Vohs assert."
10:16 This is a couple of researchers.
10:17 "Instead, it becomes part of
10:20 an economic and social system in which couples participate."
10:26 The authors go on to describe how young people find out
10:28 what the price for having sex is.
10:32 You know, how much do you have to pay to have sex?
10:35 I still remember reading this book
10:36 where they said, the highest price
10:39 that anybody ever has to pay
10:42 is lifetime commitment in a marriage
10:46 which is the ideal that Christian start with,
10:52 that you say no sex until marriage.
10:54 Yes.
10:56 But they say, that's the highest price
10:58 ever anyone ever has to pay.
11:01 And they say on page 58 and 59 in their book,
11:04 they say "The real problem for women
11:06 lies in how the negotiations of sex takes place,
11:10 that is locating the price.
11:14 Sexual negotiation of this sort
11:16 occurs within the context of powerful
11:19 yet malleable cultural stories
11:22 about what ought to happen in relationships
11:25 and when, that is, what is normal
11:28 for the crowd that you're in."
11:31 Right, there I stop and say,
11:32 well, now here's a very important thing
11:34 that we need to think about with our young people
11:37 and that is who are they spending time with.
11:40 Who are their friends?
11:42 Most of us are not willing to admit
11:44 but actually the people,
11:46 the most important decision or the most important decisions
11:49 we make are the friends we choose.
11:52 And I guess growing up that's something
11:54 that every parent just pleads with their children.
11:57 Yeah.
11:59 You know, who are your friends?
12:02 You know, stay away from that young man
12:05 or stay away from that young woman,
12:07 you know, because they are not really,
12:09 you know, they don't have the same values as you have.
12:12 Now, sometimes parents will get the kind of concept,
12:15 well, let them choose their friends and everything
12:17 and I don't like argument with my young person.
12:20 I don't like saying, you know, I don't want you going there.
12:23 I want you to be here at a certain time and everything.
12:25 But actually, you see that actually shows
12:29 doing the right way that shows that you love your children.
12:32 Exactly.
12:34 The difference, the opposite of love
12:36 is not anger or hate.
12:38 The opposite of love is indifference.
12:41 And the person says, well, I don't care where you go.
12:42 I don't care when you come home and everything like that.
12:45 That's not the person who loves their children.
12:47 We should be saying to our children,
12:50 "What time is the party, who will you be with?
12:53 Who is there with you at this program?
12:56 You know, where will you?"
12:57 I remember when I was, when I was boy,
13:00 I didn't understand this
13:01 but my father used to say to my daughter, my sister.
13:04 My father used to say to my sister
13:05 when she was going out with somebody.
13:08 He said, you go straight there and straight back.
13:09 Yeah.
13:11 Well, I can hear, I can hear that right now.
13:13 But I want, I just want to, I want to--
13:18 I would like for you to repeat this.
13:20 When we are talking about locating the price,
13:25 we are not talking about a monitory figure here.
13:28 No. No. This is deep stuff.
13:31 Yeah.
13:32 This is the price that you may,
13:33 the consequence of what you may be paying
13:36 the rest of your life.
13:37 I think that's very important. Yeah.
13:39 Because whenever I first read that,
13:41 you know, your mind goes the monitory in
13:43 but this has nothing to do with that.
13:45 It's not money, it's a social price.
13:49 And they go on to say,
13:50 "Those narratives, the narratives to the stories
13:52 that young people tell
13:53 those narratives have changed overtime
13:55 and become considerably more friendly
13:57 to early sexual experience
14:00 and in keeping with the theory
14:01 much more tailored
14:03 to men sexual interest than to women's."
14:05 Yeah.
14:06 And you see, we as parents, we as a Christian community
14:11 are those who helped to set the narratives
14:14 for our young people.
14:15 They actually look up to us.
14:16 They won't always say that but they look up to us
14:19 and they are watching us.
14:20 I've taught young people for a long time
14:23 and I know that they have a very strong hypocrisy meter.
14:27 They are looking for a dream to live
14:30 and they say, "Do you have a dream
14:31 that's worth my living, giving my life for?"
14:34 When they see us as Christians sacrificing ourselves for them,
14:38 sacrificing ourselves for other people
14:41 and they say, "Oh,
14:42 well, he is not just focused on himself."
14:45 That is actually very appealing.
14:47 It really draws them.
14:49 The sad fact is
14:50 that for the young people in this 18 to 23 age group
14:54 quite often they have sex after being in a relationship
14:57 for only a month, only a month of time.
15:01 And the authors go on in page 61 in this book,
15:04 Premarital Sex in America.
15:05 "If historically men were willing to work for sex--
15:08 that is, earn the attentions of a potential partner
15:11 by displaying commitment, life skills,
15:14 and or a promising trajectory
15:16 the modern man certainly doesn't have to.
15:19 It's a different world,
15:20 where in the physical risks of sex
15:22 have been dramatically lowered
15:24 and the independent, economic trajectories of women
15:26 dramatically raised."
15:28 So you have these two things going in opposite direction
15:29 and we said, you know, there are situations where
15:32 this isn't bad
15:34 that you, that you say have good treatments
15:36 for sexual transmitted diseases
15:39 or that women have more economic independence.
15:41 This isn't bad coin of stuff but the consequences
15:45 without proper Christian instruction
15:50 is that can easily lead in the wrong direction.
15:54 They go on to say in page 65, "The losers..."
15:58 Now this is very interesting from a Christian perspective.
16:01 "The losers in this discounted sexual marketplace
16:05 are clearly women
16:06 who would prefer a high price for sex,
16:11 those who want to remain virgins until marriage
16:15 and yet who wish to get married.
16:17 They are increasingly put in a bind
16:20 in their pursuit of a lifelong relationship,
16:22 constrained by how the sexual decisions
16:24 of their peers
16:26 alter market expectations about the price of sex."
16:29 On the same page. "The value men have to offer
16:32 in the sexual marketplace, stability, family, wealth
16:35 has clearly diminished and so has the cost of sex.
16:38 What motivation exists for men to be anything,
16:41 then, besides the stereotypic
16:42 'take what you can get' kind of man?
16:44 Not a lot, unless a man already wishes
16:48 to be something different than that."
16:51 These people that are writing this,
16:53 I know these two guys are Christians.
16:55 This was published by Oxford Press
16:57 and I picked it up at a society biblical literature meetings
17:00 when I was going through it the last day and say,
17:02 "I teach this class.
17:04 Oh, this looks to be a good book for me.
17:05 I don't know but it's good to have."
17:07 I started reading it, I was just kind of shocked by things.
17:09 Here's the thing I want to say.
17:11 We in the Christian society and the Christian church
17:15 need to affirm our young people
17:18 when they do what's good and what's right.
17:20 I remember being at a college
17:22 where young people were singing, I was watching
17:25 and there was this young lady in particular that I saw,
17:27 I think she was on the front row
17:29 and she had modest dressed.
17:31 You know, she was just dressed modestly
17:33 and I went up to her afterwards.
17:36 Now some people
17:37 might think it was kind of crazy or something,
17:39 but I went up to her afterwards and I said,
17:41 "You know, I noticed that you dressed modestly."
17:43 I said, "I want to tell you I appreciate that."
17:47 And because there is so much in the media,
17:49 there is so much among their peers
17:50 is going the other way.
17:52 They need affirmation from the adults around them,
17:55 they say, no, you are doing good.
17:56 You are doing well.
17:58 You are following the right kind of pattern.
18:00 Oh, this is got to be extremely difficult.
18:03 I mean, peer pressure today is just, it's got to be--
18:07 I mean, here
18:09 these precious women and precious men,
18:14 the objective at least as a Christian
18:17 want to save your virginity.
18:19 Want to save it.
18:21 I mean, there is, it's just, it's that preciousness there
18:24 and we've got a number of married friends
18:29 that we counsel with everything
18:31 and they were virgins when they married
18:32 and it was just, they just,
18:34 we need to get their testimonies
18:36 okay, because they override
18:39 that there is a world out there,
18:40 you know, that's claiming the consequences with them.
18:43 We should also note that one of the things
18:46 that lowers this price,
18:47 they've talked about in economic terms
18:49 lowers the price,
18:50 the social price of sex is pornography.
18:52 And sometimes people think,
18:54 "Oh, I'm just watching this by myself.
18:56 Oh, this has no effect." That is not true at all.
19:01 It also lowers this price, this social price,
19:04 this concept of story of what's involved.
19:07 And so it's really something for us to counter.
19:09 Yeah.
19:11 Well, we better move on and start talking.
19:12 We got just a few minutes. We need to talk about Corinth.
19:15 Yeah.
19:16 Because I mean,
19:18 I think we are going in the direction
19:20 of 1 Corinthians 6 and 7
19:23 what was the life of Corinth in her net time.
19:26 Okay, so the church was established by Paul
19:29 during an 18 month period stay
19:32 while he was on his second missionary journey.
19:34 This probably happened somewhere between
19:38 AD 51, AD 50, 51, 52.
19:41 It's a rather interesting story of how we know this.
19:43 There was a pro-council named Gallio and he was,
19:48 Paul was brought before him during that time
19:50 and there is a very small window
19:52 where we can nail down that Paul was there.
19:54 Well, Paul establishes this church
19:56 and then he leaves for other destinations
19:58 on his missionary work.
20:00 The city was a trade center.
20:02 There were many religions present.
20:04 High on the list was the Imperial Cult
20:06 where people would worship
20:08 the guardian deity of the emperor.
20:11 And clues in 1 Corinthians suggest
20:12 the members of the church did not separate themselves
20:15 from the surrounding society.
20:17 Sounds familiar.
20:19 You know, they didn't separate themselves
20:21 from the surrounding society
20:23 unlike 1 Thessalonians
20:25 which gives evidence of conflict
20:27 with the outside world.
20:29 Corinth and Corinthians does not seem to display
20:31 that kind of conflict with the outside world.
20:35 So there are these three characteristics of the city
20:39 that impacted 1 Corinthians position
20:45 that is its relationship to Rome.
20:48 Corinth was a Roman colony.
20:52 Prosperity, the city was prosperous
20:55 and self sufficient and pragmatism.
20:59 So the three piece, position, prosperity, and pragmatism.
21:04 The core tradition and culture of the city
21:06 revolved around trade and business
21:09 and entrepreneurial pragmatism.
21:12 Now actually--
21:14 So you could just basically get anything that you wanted
21:18 in Corinth at that time.
21:19 Yeah, for that world.
21:21 Corinth was located
21:23 and you can go see the ruins of Corinth today.
21:25 It's very interesting to go visit
21:27 and the-- it was located on an isthmus
21:31 which was like a narrow piece of land in between two seas.
21:36 And what would happen is if you could go and get
21:41 a ship across that isthmus,
21:43 you didn't have to go all the way around.
21:45 Kind of like, you know,
21:47 the Panama Canal kind of a thing.
21:49 Well, they have these ideas of digging a canal there
21:52 for a long time
21:54 but it never happened until like the 19th century.
21:57 But what they used to do
21:58 was they used to take boats that were,
22:00 that had small draft, you know,
22:02 and they would wheel them across
22:05 this isthmus on like put rollers, put them on wheels
22:09 and they pull them across there.
22:11 So Corinth was right in that area
22:13 and it's fascinating to visit this city today,
22:16 the ruins of the city.
22:18 One of the interesting things about Corinth is that there
22:21 if you go out on a field that's across the way,
22:23 it's parched upon the ruins of the city.
22:25 There is this big huge plaque lined out in the open.
22:30 I don't know why they have putted in a museum
22:32 but its big plaque that has the name Erastus on it.
22:36 Now if you read in the New Testament,
22:38 the Book of Romans, you will find this guy's name.
22:43 Erastus was the treasurer of the city
22:46 and he was a Christian.
22:48 He became a Christian.
22:50 And so he is mentioned as one of Paul's companions.
22:53 He probably, you know, was a wealthy enough man.
22:56 Actually he makes this plaque that says,
22:58 that he put up this plaque
23:00 and he didn't use any money from the city to do it.
23:02 Was in honor of him and his son something like that.
23:05 So it's really fascinating that we have evidence of the Bible
23:09 and linking up with the archeology
23:10 right there in Corinth.
23:11 But that was kind of the personality
23:13 of that time too honoring self.
23:16 Yeah, well, and I mean,
23:17 he was an important official in the land
23:20 so, you know, it was this typical kind of stuff.
23:23 So the problems at Corinth, the Corinthian believers
23:26 took other believers to pagan court in disputes.
23:30 They were factions within the church.
23:32 One of the believers was involved in incest.
23:35 There were divisions between rich and poor.
23:38 It seems like they were people who were visiting prostitutes
23:43 or having sex with their slaves.
23:45 I mean, if you put on top of that
23:47 there were key doctrines of the Christian faith
23:50 that they were all mixed up about ecclesiology
23:53 and eschatology and sexual ethics,
23:57 divorce, remarriage, spiritual gifts,
24:00 relationships to outsiders.
24:02 I mean, just over and over,
24:05 just problem after problem with these people.
24:08 This church was not an easy church
24:09 to get along with
24:10 and Paul kind of has to wind his way in between
24:15 a number of groups in trying to help them.
24:18 They had people who were libertine
24:19 and just sex was everything.
24:21 They had people who were ascetics
24:22 and who were like,
24:24 "Oh, no, you shouldn't have sex even if you married.
24:26 Can you imagine having two groups
24:28 like that in a same church?
24:30 I mean, it would be like the ultraconservatives
24:31 and the ultraliberals.
24:33 And they were like challenging. Yeah.
24:35 They would just be fighting over time.
24:36 Mating, matings all the time.
24:38 And you are the pastor trying to help solve,
24:42 you know, their problems
24:43 and try to help straighten them out.
24:45 So as we're gonna look at 1 Corinthians 6 and 7,
24:48 we are gonna see
24:50 that Paul very carefully but why does he bring
24:53 the important and the big theology
24:55 to bear on the issues that these people were facing.
24:59 It's really my favorite passage
25:01 to explain in the class that I teach and love,
25:04 marriage, sex and divorce.
25:06 My favorite passage to explain is the one we look at next
25:10 which is 1 Corinthians 6.
25:12 But kind of looking here
25:15 at what the church of the problem,
25:19 the problem of the church in Corinth is David Garland
25:22 the commentator on this said in his commentary on page,
25:27 well, it's referenced in Gordon Fee's book
25:30 but David Garland said-- I'm sorry.
25:33 It's David Garland referencing Gordon Fee.
25:35 Gordon Fee, he said,
25:37 "The problem was not that the church was in Corinth
25:40 but that too much of Corinth was in the church."
25:44 So these very, all these problems
25:46 that the culture random was producing
25:48 was what was coming into the church
25:50 and the parallel to our society today
25:54 is striking
25:57 with sexual mores going down, with people within the church.
26:02 I mean, we don't like to admit it
26:04 but the culture around us
26:07 actually impacts us a great deal.
26:09 And what's in the media and what we see
26:11 and what our friends around us see and everything.
26:14 So the experience of Corinth, they were having problems
26:17 of Corinth coming into the church.
26:19 We are having problems of our society around us
26:24 impacting us and kind of like what I would say
26:28 is like fish and water.
26:30 You know, fish don't know what water is
26:32 until you take it out of it and our world is a world of sin
26:37 and so we don't tend to know what sin is.
26:41 We tend to underestimate it.
26:42 We tend to downplay it
26:45 and the more we see it in the media,
26:46 the more we see in around us,
26:49 the more it desensitizes us to that.
26:52 Yeah. Yeah.
26:53 So there's that great parallel between the two,
26:56 between Corinth and our modern world.
26:58 So it's gonna be fascinating for us to look at
27:01 to delve into 1 Corinthian 6 where Paul faces up
27:06 to the problem of sexual promiscuity
27:09 and where he addresses the very problems
27:12 that the Corinthians were facing
27:14 and brings them back to the gospel,
27:17 brings them back to Christ and to the gospel.
27:21 You go from here. Yeah.
27:22 Well, it's absolutely, it' absolutely to me amazing
27:26 and say the last 50 years or whatever the,
27:30 how the sexual mores have declined.
27:33 They have.
27:34 And looking back, you know,
27:36 kind of running a parallel with the way it was
27:40 before we made some major changes.
27:43 And we have people that are happy,
27:45 we have people that are complaining
27:47 about where we are.
27:48 So anyway, here once again
27:51 it's just amazing to be able to sit at professor's feet
27:55 and listen and understand the history a little bit more
27:58 and I just know personally,
28:01 I have certainly continued to learn.
28:03 Bless each and every one of you.
28:05 We love you all. God bless.


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