Participants: Steve Wohlberg
Series Code: HVT
Program Code: HVT000037A
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00:09 Hell. Is it real?
00:11 Is it place far under the ground somewhere? 00:14 And is it burning now? 00:16 That's our fiery topic on His Voice Today. 00:23 Welcome to another His Voice Today 00:25 with Steve Wohlberg. 00:31 Welcome to the hot topic of hell part 1. 00:34 It was a Sunday night, November 23rd 1998. 00:38 Southern California realtor Bill Weise 00:40 and his wife had been to prayer meeting, 00:43 and then they went to bed somewhere around 11 o'clock. 00:46 At 3 a.m. Bill had a frightening experience. 00:51 In his words as he describes it apparently, 00:54 he was taken in some kind of a vision, 00:56 he was picked up out of his body 00:58 and he was taken to a place called hell, 01:02 and he saw just incredibly scary things. 01:07 His vision lasted for 23 minutes 01:09 and at exactly 3:23, he came out of his vision 01:13 and he just was screaming in the living room 01:16 and his wife woke up looked at the clock, 01:18 saw that it was exactly 3:23, went into the living room 01:21 and found him screaming and crying. 01:25 And when he regained his sanity he told her the story 01:31 of what had happened and how he had been to hell 01:33 for 23 minutes, and that Jesus had shown him 01:36 just a whole host of frightening things. 01:39 It wasn't long until Bill was invited to give his testimony 01:43 in different churches, then he went on the radio, 01:45 he went on television, eventually near 2006, 01:49 his book was published and it went to the top 01:51 of the New York Times best seller list, 01:54 describing his experience of 23 minutes in hell. 01:58 The back cover of the book has this to say, 02:02 "Bill Weise saw the searing flames of hell. 02:06 He felt total isolation an experienced the putrid 02:09 and rotting stench, deafening screams of agonizing, 02:15 terrorizing demons 02:18 and finally the strong hand of God lifting out of the pit. 02:23 And then he heard a voice apparently from Jesus 02:25 that said, tell them that I am coming very, very soon." 02:30 There's a whole lot of people that have read this book, 02:32 they've watched his testimony on YouTube, 02:34 and they've heard him in person. 02:37 And you know, I should think about that 02:39 and you would just try to make sense of his experience, 02:42 we really have one of two options, 02:45 at least major options 02:46 and one is that God gave him this vision, 02:50 this out of body experience to teach us 02:52 the truth about hell, and to direct us to the Bible. 02:57 The other option 02:58 which lot of people don't often think about is that, 03:02 this supernatural experience could have from the dark side. 03:06 It could have come from Satan 03:08 to lead us astray from Bible truth. 03:10 So we are here in His Voice Today 03:15 to examine what God's voice really says from the Bible? 03:19 What is the truth about the subject? 03:22 By his grace we are going to find out. 03:26 So if you have a Bible, 03:28 I invite you to follow along with me 03:31 and let's take a close look at many different Bible verses 03:34 and try to make sense 03:36 at what the Bible actually says about hell. 03:39 The first text we're gonna look at is in Matthew 23, 03:44 a correction that's Matthew 13. 03:46 Matthew 13 gives a series of stories and parables 03:50 that Jesus Christ told when He was here on earth, 03:54 and one of these stories described and explained 03:59 in verses 37 to 43 04:04 is a story where Jesus told about a farmer 04:08 and about a field and about a harvest. 04:10 His disciples asked Him to explain this parable 04:13 and so Jesus did. 04:15 And we can find his explanation going on in verses 37 to 43. 04:22 And in verse 37, Jesus answered and told his disciples. 04:25 "He said, he who sows the good seed 04:28 is the Son of Man," 04:29 representing Himself, He is the farmer. 04:31 The field is the world, 04:34 the good seed are the children of the kingdom, 04:37 and the weeds are the children of the wicked one. 04:41 The enemy who sowed them is the devil, 04:44 and the harvest is the end of the world, 04:47 and the reapers are the angels. 04:51 Verse 40, "As therefore the weeds are gathered 04:54 and burned in the fire, 04:56 so shall it be at the end of this world. 05:00 The Son of Man shall send forth His angels, 05:03 and they will gather out of His kingdom 05:05 all things that offend, and them which commit sin, 05:09 and he will cast them into the furnace of fire. 05:12 And there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 05:15 Then shall the righteous shine forth 05:17 as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. 05:21 He who has ears to hear, let him hear!" 05:24 Now I certainly want to hear what Jesus had to say, 05:28 and I believe you do too. 05:29 And as we look at these words carefully, 05:31 there's a number of points I want to make. 05:35 And it seems to me and hopefully it impresses you, 05:37 that as you read these words it's very clear 05:40 that Jesus Christ Himself 05:42 certainly believed in a real fire. 05:44 He talked about furnace of fire, 05:45 He talked about people 05:47 eventually are being thrown into this fire. 05:48 He talked about people wailing and gnashing their teeth 05:52 which represents, some people are crying, 05:55 some people are angry, gnashing the teeth has to do with anger. 05:58 And so Jesus definitely portrayed this 06:01 as something very, very real, 06:03 and I want you to know that I believe this. 06:05 I believe that the Bible is true 06:07 and then what Jesus says is real. 06:10 But now notice something, 06:11 there's something significant in Jesus' explanation 06:13 of the parable in verse 39, He said 06:16 that the "Enemy who sowed the bad seeds is the devil 06:20 and the harvest is the end of the world." 06:24 Notice the end of the world. 06:26 The reapers are the angels 06:28 and as therefore the weeds are gathered 06:30 and burned in the fire, 06:32 so shall it be in the end of this world. 06:36 So putting these pieces together, 06:39 we know that there is a real fire, 06:41 Jesus believed in a fire, I believe in a fire, 06:43 I hope you believe that this is what the Bible says. 06:46 And hopefully you believe that it's true. 06:49 But then the second point is according to Jesus Christ, 06:51 this furnace of fire is something that will happen, 06:56 it's not happening right now, 06:57 but he said it will happen at the end of this world. 07:02 Let me read it again, 07:04 "The harvest is the end of the world, 07:06 the reapers are the angels 07:07 as therefore the weeds are gathered 07:08 and burned in the fire, 07:10 so shall it be in the end of this world." 07:14 So Jesus taught there is a real fire 07:16 but He didn't put it 07:18 as something that is happening right now, 07:20 He put it far down to the very end of time, 07:24 the end of the world. 07:26 Now let's see if there is some another verses 07:27 that keeps the same thing. 07:29 Let's go to 2 Peter 3. 07:35 2 Peter 3 is a chapter 07:37 where Peter describes the end of the world, 07:39 the day of the Lord that will come like a thief in the night. 07:42 He described this in verse 10. 07:44 Peter wrote that "The day of the Lord 07:46 will come like a thief in the night, 07:47 in which the heavens will pass away 07:49 with a great noise, 07:50 and the elements will melt with fervent heat, 07:53 the earth also and the works that are therein 07:55 shall be burned up." 07:57 So in the day of the Lord 07:59 which obviously hasn't happened yet, 08:01 there's going to be a fire, 08:03 there's going to be a great noise, 08:04 there's going to be fervent heat 08:06 and it's going to burn up the earth 08:09 and its wicked works, or at least the wicked works 08:12 that people are doing in the earth. 08:14 Now if you go back to verse 7, 08:15 Peter basically says the same thing, he says, 08:17 "The heavens and the earth, 08:19 and the word heaven doesn't mean the place where God is," 08:22 it refers to the atmospheric heaven 08:24 is where the, where the birds fly. 08:26 The birds flying in the midst of heavens 08:28 the Bible talks about. 08:29 "But the heavens and the earth, 08:31 which are now, by the same word, 08:34 referring to the word of God, 08:35 are kept in store and they are reserved unto fire 08:40 against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men." 08:44 So Peter is basically saying what Jesus said 08:47 that there is gonna be a real fire, 08:49 it's really going to burn, 08:51 but Peter puts it not right now, 08:53 he puts it at the day of the Lord, 08:56 at the end of the world. 09:00 And Peter is very clear 09:02 that the ungodly referring to the wicked, 09:06 they are reserved for that day, reserved 09:11 and the heavens in the earth are reserved 09:13 for fire against the day of judgement 09:14 and perdition of ungodly men. 09:16 So ungodly men are going into the fire 09:19 but it's going to be not right now, 09:21 but it's going to be at end of the world. 09:23 If you go back to chapter 2, and look at verse 9, 09:28 Peter says something similar, he says that the, 09:31 he wrote that, "The Lord knows 09:33 how to deliver the godly out of temptations, 09:36 and to reserve the unjust 09:38 unto the day of judgement to the punished." 09:43 So this verse says 09:44 that God knows how to protect His people, 09:46 He knows how to preserve and keep them from temptations 09:52 but He will reserve or preserve the unjust, 09:56 it says until the day of judgement to be punished. 10:01 So when do the unjust get punished 10:04 according to 2 Peter 2:9. 10:08 He said, Peter wrote 10:09 and this is what the Bible says, 10:11 "That the unjust will be punished 10:13 on the day of judgement," 10:16 which obviously has not yet taken place 10:20 for people around the world. 10:25 So when you put these verses together, 10:27 we have these significant points. 10:30 Let me read these to you, from my own notes here, 10:34 very clear right from the Bible. 10:35 Point number one, 10:37 is there is going to be a real fire, 10:39 Jesus taught that, Peter taught that 10:41 and there is a lot of other verses that teach this 10:43 and we'll look at many of those other verses. 10:46 According to Jesus and according to Peter, 10:48 point number two 10:49 is that this fire occurs at the end of the world. 10:52 Point number three, 10:53 it is synonymous with occurring on the day of judgement. 10:58 Point four is the fire will burn 11:01 the atmospheric heavens 11:03 and the earth that we are now walking on top of, 11:07 and then point number five is that is when the lost, 11:11 or the unjust, or the wicked 11:13 will finally get their punishment. 11:16 Now, that's what the Bible says, 11:18 that's what Jesus taught in Matthew 13, 11:21 and that's what Peter taught in 2 Peter 2, 11:25 and in 2 Peter 3. 11:28 Now, what we've just read 11:29 is obviously quite a bit different 11:33 from the common view of hell. 11:36 When most people think of hell, 11:37 they think of the dream or the vision 11:41 or whatever it was that Bill Weise had 11:44 and that other people have had. 11:47 Apparently they've seen fire this fiery place 11:50 and most people think of it 11:52 as somewhere way down, down, down 11:54 who knows how many miles down underneath the ground, 11:57 way down possibly in the heart of the earth, 11:59 and they see it as a fiery place 12:03 where a lost soul will go after he dies. 12:08 And many times people imagine or they believe 12:12 that the devil will be down there 12:14 possibly with a pitchfork 12:15 or some kind of instruments and instrument of torture 12:19 and his demons are down there and people are screaming 12:22 and hauling, and there's just all kinds of awful things like, 12:27 just like Bill described in his dream or in his vision. 12:32 Let me read it again. 12:34 He saw the searing flames of hell, 12:36 he experienced the putrid and the rotting stench. 12:38 The deafening screams of agony, 12:40 terrorizing demons and finally the strong hand of God 12:44 lifting him out of the pit. 12:47 This is the common view of hell. 12:49 This is what Bill saw, 12:51 and again did God show this to him 12:54 or was it a supernatural experience 12:57 that came from the dark side to lead people astray? 13:01 The only way we're gonna find out the answer to that question 13:03 is by looking closely at the Bible. 13:07 Now, let me share with you a very shocking fact, 13:11 and it's the truth, you can check it out, 13:13 and I encourage you to check everything 13:15 that I say out from God's book. 13:18 There is only one place in the entire Bible 13:22 that seems to teach the idea 13:26 that hell is under the ground far below us 13:30 and it's a place where a lost soul leaves his body 13:33 at the point of death and goes under the ground 13:36 and begins suffering and writhing in the flames. 13:41 There's only one place that teaches that 13:44 and that is the story of the rich man 13:46 and Lazarus in the Book of Luke 16, 13:50 which we are going to examine closely in part two 13:54 of this little mini series, the hot topic of hell. 13:57 But before we do, 13:58 I want to just impress you with a very important fact, 14:03 an amazing fact. 14:04 And that is that there is no other verse 14:07 not one in the entire New Testament 14:11 or in the entire Bible 14:12 that seems to teach that concept, 14:15 that hell is a place under the ground 14:17 where a last soul goes at the point of death 14:20 and he's burning. 14:21 If you read the Book of Matthew, 14:24 the first book of the New Testament 14:25 you won't find that particular doctrine anywhere. 14:29 You won't find it in Mark, 14:30 you won't find it in the Book of John. 14:33 When you read the Book of Acts 14:35 which is the story of the early church 14:36 and what they preached, 14:37 what Peter preached on the day of Pentecost 14:39 and what Paul eventually preached 14:41 after he was converted from Saul to Paul, 14:44 you can read his sermons, Peter sermons, Paul sermons, 14:48 and you won't ever find them teaching anything like this 14:51 in the entire Book of Acts. 14:53 Paul wrote most of the New Testament, 14:55 the majority of the New Testament books he wrote, 14:57 he wrote Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 15:01 1 Thessalonians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 Timothy, 15:03 2 Timothy, he wrote a lot of books 15:06 and yet amazingly 15:07 you will not find anywhere in any of the writings of Paul 15:11 which includes the Book of Romans, 15:13 all of his books this concept 15:16 that hell is a place under the ground 15:18 where lost souls go at the point of death, 15:21 it's just not there. 15:24 James wrote his little book 15:26 close to the Book of Revelation, 15:28 it's not in the Book of James. 15:30 Peter wrote 1 and 2 Peter 15:32 completely absent from Peter's teaching. 15:35 The Book of Jude which is the little book 15:37 right before the Book of Revelation 15:39 talks about judgement, 15:40 talks about God executing judgement upon the wicked 15:43 when Jesus Christ comes, 15:45 but the concept of hell under the ground burning 15:48 it's just not there, 15:49 and when you read the Book of Revelation, 15:52 it's not there either. 15:53 Like I said it's nowhere. 15:56 It's nowhere in the Old Testament, 15:57 it's nowhere in the New Testament 15:59 except one place 16:00 which is the story of the rich man and Lazarus, 16:02 which we would look at in part two. 16:05 The truth is that there are two primary Greek words 16:11 that are translated hell in our English Bibles. 16:16 And the words are Gehenna and the other word is Hades. 16:20 I'd like to show you a text where Gehenna is used 16:24 which is in Matthew 5:29. 16:31 Jesus definitely believed in a fire, 16:34 but notice what he said and what he didn't say. 16:38 Matthew 5:29 and 30, 16:43 Jesus warned about sexual sin 16:46 and he said, "If your right eye offends you, 16:48 pluck it out and cast it from you, 16:51 for it is profitable for you 16:53 that one of your members should perish, 16:55 and not that your whole body should be cast into hell." 16:58 Now the Greek word there for hell is Gehenna, 17:01 and it's obvious when you look at this verse 17:03 and look at the way Gehenna is used in other verses 17:07 that Gehenna definitely refers to a real place of fire. 17:11 In verse 30 Jesus basically said the same thing, 17:15 "If your right hand offends you, 17:17 cut it off and cast it from you, 17:19 for it is profitable for you 17:20 that one of your members should perish, 17:22 and not that your whole body should be cast into hell." 17:25 Now I don't believe Jesus is really recommending 17:28 that we actually take a knife 17:29 and cut off our hands or take out our eyes 17:31 but his, the context from verse 27 and 28 17:35 is that Jesus is talking about sexual sin 17:37 and He's talking about committing adultery 17:39 and not just the physical act 17:41 but dwelling upon these things in your mind and you know, 17:45 seeing either a woman or a man that you really want to be with 17:49 and basically creating a bed in your heart and doing this, 17:55 committing adultery inside of you, 17:58 and Jesus said if your eye is leading you into sin, 18:01 He said it's really better to take your eye out 18:03 than to go into hell. 18:04 It's really better to cut your hand off, 18:06 if your hand is leading you into sin, 18:08 and I think what Jesus is saying 18:09 is that whatever part of us 18:13 is leading us into sexual immorality 18:15 or any kind of immorality, 18:17 we really need to make a strong decision 18:20 to cut out that practice from our lives, 18:23 that's what Jesus is really saying. 18:27 But he uses the word Gehenna here and he uses, 18:31 he talks about hell where people will go, 18:35 and he says that your whole body 18:36 will eventually go there. 18:38 He doesn't say your soul 18:39 is gonna leave your body and go there, 18:41 he says your whole body is gonna eventually 18:42 end up in hell. 18:43 And the word here, again the Greek word is Gehenna 18:45 which basically means a place of burning, 18:48 a place of fire, so again I believe it's real, 18:51 I believe it's coming, 18:52 and I believe that Jesus' warning 18:54 needs to be taken seriously. 18:56 But in theses verses Jesus does not say 19:00 that you're going to go to hell when you die, 19:02 He just says that your whole body will go there 19:05 if you continue to practice sin, 19:08 but He doesn't say 19:10 when it will happen in this verse. 19:12 Now there is another verse, 19:13 there's actually a lot of verses 19:15 where Jesus talks about the consequences 19:17 and going into the fire, 19:19 but in these verses He doesn't say 19:21 exactly when and we did read that in Matthew 13, 19:24 Jesus said, the fire would take place 19:25 at the end of the world, 19:27 and we read in 2 Peter the same thing. 19:30 So now let's look at the word Hades 19:34 and let's see what it means. 19:36 Hades is used a number of times in the New Testament 19:39 and let's take a look at one of them 19:40 which is in 1 Corinthians 15. 19:45 If you did your homework 19:46 and look up the word Hades 19:48 in a reputable Bible dictionary, 19:51 at least one that knows what it's talking about 19:53 and you'll discover 19:54 that Hades really should be correctly translated, 19:58 not a place of burning, it's not under the ground 20:01 somewhere where souls are being tormented by demons 20:04 with pitchforks. 20:05 It is actually a word 20:06 that applies to simply the grave itself. 20:09 We know this for sure 20:11 by looking at how the word is used 20:13 in its context in a number of passages. 20:16 1 Corinthians 15, describes the great day 20:20 when Jesus returns, His second coming. 20:24 Verse 51 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery: 20:27 Paul wrote we will not all sleep, 20:28 but will all be changed." 20:30 Sleep preferring to death, 20:31 but we'll all be transformed if we're true believers. 20:35 Verse 52, "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, 20:37 at the last trumpet." 20:39 And the last trumpet is at the end of the world. 20:41 "For the trumpet will sound, it'll be very loud 20:43 and the dead will be raised incorruptible, 20:46 and we shall be changed. 20:48 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, 20:50 and this mortal must put on immortality. 20:53 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, 20:57 and this mortal which is what we are now, 20:59 mortal beings shall have put on immortality," 21:02 on resurrection day when Jesus comes. 21:06 Paul wrote, "Then shall be brought to pass the saying 21:08 that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory." 21:12 And then in verse 55, he describes the words 21:15 that come out of the mouths of the saints 21:17 on resurrection morning, 21:18 when they come out of the grave. 21:20 "O death, where is your sting? 21:22 O grave, where is your victory? 21:24 Now, I don't know if you can see this 21:26 through the camera lens, 21:27 but in my Bible I've circled the word grave here 21:31 and there is a little footnote 21:32 that takes you to a marginal reference on the side 21:36 and the word there is hell. 21:38 And the Greek word is Hades. 21:40 And so what Paul is basically saying 21:41 is that the saints on resurrection morning 21:44 come out of the grave which is Hades, 21:46 which is also translated hell 21:48 and they come out and they are shouting and praising God, 21:51 because death has no longer any power over them. 21:56 Now, think about it, 21:58 here we have Paul describing the saints coming out of Hades 22:01 and shouting victory over death in the grave 22:05 and obviously in this verse, 22:07 Hades is not a reference to a place 22:09 burning under the ground 22:11 where the saints art being tormented, 22:12 obviously not by demons or devils but pitchforks, 22:15 but again Hades is simply a word 22:18 that describes the grave and Paul is saying 22:21 that when even the righteous die, 22:23 they go to the grave and the wicked also go to grave 22:25 but when Jesus Christ comes on resurrection morning, 22:28 then His people will come out of the grave shouting victory, 22:32 praising the Lord 22:33 that they will never have to worry 22:35 about the grave again. 22:37 So just to summarize, 22:38 we have two major words in the New Testament 22:40 that are translated hell in our English Bibles. 22:43 Gehenna which is a place of burning 22:46 and Hades which literally means the grave. 22:50 Now the word Hades is used in another place 22:53 that I want to share with you before we wind up part one 22:57 and that's in the Book of Revelation 20. 23:01 Revelation 20 is a very, very powerful passage 23:04 describing the end of the millennium, 23:05 the end of the one thousand years, 23:07 and it describes the resurrection of lost people 23:11 in verses 12-14 who eventually are judged 23:15 and then who go into the lake of fire. 23:17 In verse 12 John saw in vision, 23:20 "I saw the dead, small and great, 23:22 standing before God, and books were opened. 23:24 And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. 23:27 And the dead were judged out of those things, 23:29 which were written in the books according to their works." 23:32 So this is what we call the great white throne judgement 23:35 at the end of the millennium 23:37 and it is the lost who are being judged. 23:39 Verse 13 says, "The sea gave up the dead 23:41 which were in it, 23:43 and death and hell delivered up the dead 23:46 which were in them. 23:47 And they were judged, 23:49 every man according to their works." 23:50 And then verse 14 says, 23:52 "Death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. 23:54 This is the second death. 23:56 Whosoever was not found written in the book of life 23:58 was cast into the lake of fire." 24:01 And I'm gonna hold my Bible up again here 24:03 so you can see this, 24:04 if you got great eyes or just take my word for it. 24:07 In verse 13, I've got the word hell there 24:11 that the lost are coming up out of hell 24:13 and I've circled that word, 24:15 there's a marginal reference which says the grave 24:17 and the Greek word, the original word is Hades, 24:20 just like in 1 Corinthians 15. 24:22 So just like the righteous come out of Hades 24:24 and shout for joy, 24:26 so at the end of the thousand years, 24:29 the lost come out of Hades as well which means the grave 24:34 and then they're judged 24:35 and then they go into the lake of fire. 24:39 Now let me just summarize these different points here. 24:43 Notice the order, at the end of the millennium, 24:45 the lost come out of Hades, 24:46 they're judged and they go into the fire. 24:49 It would certainly be strange if a lost person dies today 24:53 and goes immediately into the fire 24:56 and then at the end of the millennium 24:57 he comes out of the fire to get judged. 25:01 I mean why would God judge a person 25:03 after He throws him into the fire, 25:05 that doesn't make sense. 25:06 And then it would be even stranger 25:08 if that lost person were to then be sent 25:10 back into the fire after he's judged. 25:13 Imagine two people dying, 25:15 one person died a 1000 years ago 25:17 and he was very wicked and he goes into the fire 25:19 and he's burning, 25:21 and then another wicked person dies today 25:22 and then he goes down into the fire 25:24 and he joins that first person, 25:26 that would mean that the second person 25:29 burn for a 1000 years less 25:31 and the first person burn for a 1000 years longer 25:33 because they both, 25:35 because they died at different times 25:38 and now what that make sense. 25:39 And the Bible says the God is gonna judge people justly 25:42 and then he's going to punish them. 25:44 And so it doesn't make sense based on these scriptures 25:47 that a lost person would go down into the fire now 25:51 and then become, and then get resurrected 25:54 and then get judged, and then go back into the fire. 25:57 Revelation 20:15 says, 26:01 that at the end of the millennium, 26:03 "Whosoever was not found written in the book of life 26:06 was cast into the lake of fire." 26:08 I believe in a real fire, it's coming, 26:10 but when does that fire come, how long does it burn, 26:14 do people go there today? 26:16 I don't think so, that's not what the Bible says, 26:19 and what is really the truth about hell? 26:22 Well, this is the conclusion of part one 26:25 in our next installment we'll pick up with part two, 26:28 the hot topic of hell. 26:29 We'll make it very clear 26:31 and we'll do it right from the Bible, 26:33 so that when we're done, 26:34 you will know that you have heard 26:36 not Steve Wohlberg's opinion, 26:37 but you have heard His Voice Today. 26:41 Don't miss part two. 26:43 We hope you've enjoyed this timely message 26:45 from Pastor Steve Wohlberg 26:47 and we want you to know 26:48 that White Horse Media is deeply committed 26:50 to bringing you many more simple messages 26:53 straight from the Bible designed to educate the mind, 26:56 inspire 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