Participants: Steve Wohlberg
Series Code: HVT
Program Code: HVT000051A
00:09 Pope Francis visits America.
00:11 Is Protestantism alive or dead? 00:14 That's our topic next on His Voice Today. 00:17 A thousand years before there was a Protestant 00:20 there were Sunday Laws that originated in Pagan Sun Worship. 00:24 For centuries the church ruled the world 00:26 until the Protestant Reformation 00:28 with men, like Martin Luther, 00:30 champion of personal and religious freedom. 00:32 Thousands fled to America to seek freedom 00:35 from religious tyranny 00:36 where Protestants and freedom-loving Americans 00:38 fight to keep freedom alive 00:40 or will we descend into a modern dark age. 00:43 The Vanishing Protestant... the Reformation is not dead! 00:47 On September 24, 2015, 00:50 Pope Francis speaks to a joint-session of U.S. Congress, 00:53 September 25, 2015, 00:55 Pope Francis speaks in New York City 00:57 to a massive gathering of world leaders for the United Nations. 01:01 Pope Francis continues to get 01:02 a large amount of media coverage around the world. 01:05 Historically, the Protestant Reformation 01:07 rose up as a protest 01:09 against the traditions and doctrines 01:11 of the Roman Catholic Church. 01:12 Should people still be protesting today? 01:14 That's our topic on His Voice Today. 01:17 Elder Coridan, thank you for joining me 01:20 Dean Coridan, you are my guest, 01:22 you are the Conference President of the Iowa-Missouri Conference 01:26 of Seventh-day Adventists. Yes. 01:27 You're also a Pastor 01:28 and I'm assuming, you're a family man as well. 01:31 I am... You are... 01:32 and you have done a lot of study 01:34 on the Protestant Reformation as I have. 01:37 I've got a number of books here 01:39 that I know you're familiar with. 01:40 "The History of the Reformation of the 16th Century" 01:43 this is a massive book by Merle D'Aubigne 01:45 another one by H. Grattan Guinness 01:48 called, "Romanism and the Reformation. " 01:49 I've read this book from cover to cover 01:51 one of England's greatest prophecy teachers. 01:54 Another book called, 01:56 "The History of the Ancient Waldenses" 01:58 "The Waldensians" 01:59 "The Vaudois" they were also called, 02:00 covering the history of persecution 02:02 in North Italy, Southern France, 02:04 and "50 years in the Church of Rome: 02:06 The Conversion of a Priest" by Charles Chiniquy. 02:09 You are familiar with these books, 02:11 I'm familiar with them, and there's just a lot 02:14 that we need to know and understand 02:17 and comprehend concerning history 02:20 in order to really grasp what the issues are today 02:23 so, take us back... just to help people 02:25 who may not be familiar with this 02:27 to just get some of the history behind this, 02:31 let's just rewind about 500 years ago 02:33 what was going on in Catholic Europe... in the 1500s? 02:37 Well if you study this topic of Western Civilization 02:41 in High School, 02:43 that period of time would be termed the "Dark Ages. " 02:46 The Dark Ages... 02:48 The Ruling Power in Europe at that time 02:51 was the Roman Church 02:52 and the State yielded to the Church 02:56 and the Church demanded things of the State. 02:59 People did not have the Word of God. 03:02 They were not allowed to have the Word of God 03:05 and even after the Gutenberg Press came 03:08 and the first book published was the Bible... 03:10 That was in 1450... 03:12 Even then... if you were found with a copy of the Word of God, 03:16 your life would be forfeited. 03:18 The church controlled... 03:20 Salvation was only through the church, 03:23 truth was defined by the church, 03:27 the priest was everything to the family, 03:31 it truly was the "Dark Ages. " 03:33 And the Inquisition was also in full force. 03:37 Many, many people... history tells us 03:40 millions of people forfeited their lives 03:42 because of the Freedom of Conscience Principle 03:46 of having the Word of God, many people sacrificed their lives. 03:48 They were arrested secretly often, 03:50 they were taken to secret Tribunals underneath Monasteries 03:54 they were often tortured, they were put to death, 03:56 because their conscience told them 03:58 that they shouldn't go along or couldn't go along 04:00 with some of the teachings of the Roman Church, 04:02 and so, liberty of conscience, was just really not available 04:07 to the average person in Europe in the 1500s. 04:10 Now, Martin Luther comes along and Luther was a Catholic 04:14 he was a Catholic Priest and eventually from my study... 04:17 he found a copy of a Latin Bible 04:19 and he began to read it. 04:21 He eventually became a Professor 04:23 at the University of Wittenberg in Germany 04:25 and I've visited Wittenberg, I've seen the statue of Luther 04:28 I've seen the Castle Door 04:30 where he nailed the Ninety-Five Theses to the church, 04:34 and this helped spark the reformation 04:36 so when Luther started reading the Bible, 04:39 for the first time in his life, what did he find? 04:41 Luther was not the first of the Reformers 04:45 but probably the best, well-known, 04:47 greatest of the Reformers. 04:49 I think it's hard for us to imagine today 04:52 that when a man like Martin Luther 04:55 who has dedicated his life to the church, 04:59 has dedicated his life to God, 05:02 and then begin to feel the weight of sin, 05:05 and not have a sense of salvation 05:08 or a peace or a forgiveness of what that would do 05:12 and if you would read his life story, 05:14 there are many biographies, he is the most written-about man 05:17 in Western Society. 05:18 Outside of Jesus, I think he's number two. 05:20 That's right, that's right, of how he would fast 05:24 and abuse his body, go on long pilgrimages, 05:28 doing everything he could by "works" to find forgiveness 05:33 and to find peace with God. 05:34 For him to find a Bible and to begin to read it, 05:38 and the words having an effect on his heart, 05:41 it was a powerful influence that would bring a day of light 05:46 to the whole world. 05:47 I think it was Luther who said, 05:49 "If any monk could get to heaven by his monkish works, 05:51 it would be me" that... he just... 05:54 he never found that peace 05:55 and then eventually he... 05:56 as you said... he studied the Bible, 05:58 I think there was one particular text 05:59 and I think you've got it there in Romans chapter 1 verse 17, 06:02 this became really a... just a driving force 06:06 behind Luther's... the rest of his life... 06:08 Well this verse becomes connected to a great story 06:11 with Martin Luther and he was reading in Romans 1, 06:14 and he came to verse 17 and it says, 06:20 and then it struck him 06:27 and of course it didn't have the impact on him then... 06:31 but it was in his heart and mind, 06:33 and the story is told that he went to Rome, 06:35 he went on a pilgrimage, he went to the staircase 06:38 where he would crawl up on his knees 06:41 seeking peace, seeking for forgiveness, 06:44 seeking through the traditions of the church, 06:46 when halfway up that staircase, it was as if... a loud voice... 06:52 it came to him... "the just shall live by faith" 06:55 that was a turning point in Martin Luther's life. 06:58 The story is... he got up, walked down those stairs, 07:01 went back to Wittenberg and there's where he began 07:04 to really develop the Protestant Reformation 07:06 that would ultimately be of benefit to all of us. 07:09 It would alter the course of history... 07:11 Forever... And so, he began to protest... 07:12 at first, I understand, with all the study I've done 07:14 that he really tried to reform the church, 07:16 he thought that maybe the Pope would be agreeable 07:18 and the church would want to know 07:20 what was in the Bible and find out 07:21 that we don't have to do all these rites and ceremonies 07:24 we don't have to confess to priests 07:25 and go through Mary, 07:27 and we don't have to do all these monkish works 07:29 but we can come directly to Jesus 07:32 and he tried to send this information out 07:35 but word came back from Headquarters 07:37 from the Vatican that if he didn't give up 07:39 his strange heretical doctrines, that he would be put to death 07:44 and wasn't that what really motivated him 07:47 to really take a stand 07:49 that I'm going to stand up for God no matter what... 07:53 Yes, in fact, the goal of his life at that point then 07:55 when he started... as you said... 07:57 he wasn't trying to make the break 07:59 with the church... but when things began to develop 08:02 and the principles of Scripture and faith alone 08:06 and grace alone, were being rejected 08:08 the goal of his life became to translate the Bible 08:12 and to give the Bible in a "readable form" 08:15 to the common man. 08:17 That's right... and these he mentioned, 08:18 "Sola Scriptura" 08:20 these were the famous phrases of the Reformation, 08:24 Sola Scriptura meaning "by Scripture alone" 08:26 "Sola fida" meaning, by faith alone, 08:29 "Sola gratia" meaning, by grace alone, 08:31 through Jesus Christ alone, 08:33 and Luther discovered that Jesus was his Savior, 08:37 not all of his works, following the traditions of men 08:41 and so he began to protest, and this is where the 08:44 "Protestant Reformation" came where he was protesting 08:49 against the corruptions and the traditions 08:51 that had come into Christianity 08:53 and were especially being promoted by the Roman Church. 08:56 Now, something that's very significant 08:59 is... eventually... Luther turned to the prophecies 09:01 and he began studying prophecies 09:03 as the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation 09:05 as other Protestants began to do 09:09 and I read a book called, "Christ and the Antichrist" 09:12 dealing with the Reformation and one of the classic lines 09:15 is that Luther... 09:17 not only discovered Jesus Christ by studying the Bible, 09:21 but he also discovered Antichrist 09:24 and eventually the Protestant Reformers 09:27 as a class... and that includes John Calvin... later on... 09:31 Zwingli... Zwingli... 09:33 John Wesley who founded the Methodist Church, 09:36 Knox... Spurgeon... 09:38 that great Baptist Pastor, 09:39 it was pretty unanimous that when they studied Revelation 09:43 and read about the beast in Revelation 13 09:45 who had a mouth speaking great things, 09:48 and who made war on the saints, and he was given authority 09:51 over peoples and tongues and nations, 09:54 that they, pretty much, unanimously, 09:56 looked at the beast, 09:58 looked at the prophecy about the beast, 10:01 looked at the Roman Church, 10:02 looked at the prophecy, looked at the Roman church, 10:04 and they came to the conclusion 10:07 that the Roman Power was the beast 10:09 of prophecy and they began to preach this 10:11 and this is what really shook Europe, 10:13 it wasn't just that salvation was through Jesus Christ alone, 10:16 but it was that the beast of prophecy 10:19 was ruling on the throne and it was doing exactly 10:22 what the Scriptures predicted. 10:24 Well, can you imagine the concept 10:26 that you could go to Jesus alone... yourself... 10:31 the Bible says, "For we have a High Priest 10:34 that we can go to Him. " Hebrews chapter 4, 10:38 we can go to Him... when all you've been taught 10:41 your whole life for hundreds of years 10:44 is that your salvation is dependent 10:46 upon your connection to the church. 10:48 If the church would excommunicate you 10:51 it would be impossible for you to be saved. 10:53 If you didn't have a priest involved in your life 10:56 for the forgiveness of sin, 10:58 if you weren't doing penance, then... there was no forgiveness 11:02 can you imagine, news comes... 11:05 a man would stand up and say, "No, that System is wrong, 11:09 in fact that System is Antichrist... 11:12 because you can go to Christ... alone" 11:15 and Luther said that anything... 11:17 he taught that anything... 11:19 that would become between the individual 11:22 and the relationship with Jesus would be an Antichrist. 11:26 Wow! here's a statement from D'Aubigne... 11:28 D'Aubigne's classic book it says, 11:30 "Luther proved by the revelations of Daniel, 11:32 Saint John and by the Epistles of Saint Paul, 11:34 Saint Peter and Saint Jude, that the reign of Antichrist 11:37 predicted and described in the Bible was the Papacy, 11:39 a holy terror seized upon their souls, 11:42 it was Antichrist whom they beheld 11:44 seated on the Pontifical throne. 11:46 This new idea which dealt.. derived greater strength 11:49 from the prophetic descriptions launched forth by Luther 11:52 into the midst of his contemporaries, 11:54 inflicted the most terrible blow on Rome. " 11:56 So, this is history, these are facts of history, 11:59 now, take us down from the... 12:02 from Luther's protest 12:03 to the development of Protestantism as a Movement... 12:06 and then how that affected the rise of America 12:08 on the shores of the New World. 12:11 Well, America is found in Revelation chapter 12 12:15 and Revelation chapter 13. 12:17 History tells us that because persecution became so great 12:21 that people begin to have to flee to other countries 12:24 and it would go from place to place, 12:27 to place, people were hiding in Europe, 12:30 they were hiding in the mountains, but ultimately, 12:33 American History would come on stage in world history 12:37 because people fled for religious persecution, 12:41 to escape religious persecution, 12:43 people fled to the shores of America. 12:45 And eventually when... as America continued to grow 12:48 went through a lot of development 12:50 finally we have the time of the Constitution 12:52 and the First Amendment of the Constitution says that 12:54 Congress shall make no law 12:57 respecting an establishment of Religion, 12:59 or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. " 13:02 That's the "Establishment clause" 13:03 and the "Free Exercise Clause" 13:05 and so, America's fundamental principle of freedom 13:08 was that the church did not have the right 13:12 to take control of the State... and the State... 13:16 didn't have the right to enforce 13:17 the teachings of the church, 13:19 which was totally contrary to Catholic history in Europe 13:22 so we've got America, we've got Catholicism 13:25 and they are diametrically opposed 13:28 when it comes to their fundamental principles. 13:30 When it came to the founding of America, 13:32 it was a new experiment, 13:34 it had never been seen in the world before, 13:37 to think that Paganism... 13:39 was the State controlling the Church 13:42 Catholicism... Romanism was the Church controlling the State 13:46 and then for our Founding Fathers 13:49 to come to the concept of... 13:50 "that there should be a separation of Church and State" 13:53 that there should be a freedom of worship, 13:56 the individual conscience should be free to worship God 14:01 through the Scriptures without persecution. 14:04 That was a new concept the world had not seen. 14:08 Wow! and we've lost sight of a lot of that 14:10 history... haven't we? 14:12 We were talking about the "Vanishing Protestant" 14:16 today... most people have no idea the history behind 14:19 the freedoms that we enjoy in America today. 14:23 You know, I get to talk with a lot of people 14:26 and through the years of my ministry, Steve, 14:29 I've seen, so much of the concept being lost 14:32 of what does the Bible say, more and more, everywhere, 14:38 it is, "What does Society say or what does the Church say... " 14:41 or what... I mean... the whole point 14:44 of the Protestant Reformation was built on the concept 14:48 that Jesus laid out in Matthew 14:50 that man shall not live by bread alone 14:52 but by every word of God. 14:55 That the whole concept that we can go to the Bible ourselves 15:00 we can read it, 15:01 our conscience can be guided by the Word of God, 15:04 and we can go to Jesus ourselves for the forgiveness of sin. 15:08 The Church should only be organized 15:11 to carry that message to the world. 15:13 Well, here's an article, July 3rd, 2014, 15:17 I've used this in many of my Seminars. 15:20 The tide that came up from christiannews. net 15:22 and the title of the article is: 15:25 "TV Preachers Glowingly Describe Meeting with Pope 15:27 to Tear Down 'Walls of Division' 15:30 between Catholics and Protestants" 15:32 the article came out of Rome, it says, 15:35 "Two Controversial TV Preachers recently met Pope Francis 15:39 in an effort to work toward tearing down 15:40 the walls of division between Catholics and Protestants" 15:43 Kenneth Copeland and James Robison 15:47 very well-known Evangelical Preachers, 15:51 it says in it... they had a meeting 15:55 with the Roman Catholic Pontiff 15:57 late last month, and then... going on 15:59 the article refers to... it says, 16:02 "This meeting was a miracle" Robison told Fort Worth's 16:06 "Star-Telegram" after returning from Rome. 16:08 "This is something that God has done. 16:10 God wants His arms around the world. 16:12 He wants Christians to put His arms 16:14 around the world by working together 16:17 we need to stop fighting one another... " 16:19 Robison said that he enjoyed every moment 16:21 with the leader of the Roman Catholic Church 16:23 saying that he even gave 16:25 Pope Francis a friendly "high five" 16:27 and then the end of the article says that Joel Osteen 16:31 who is also a very well-known Christian Minister in Texas 16:35 that he similarly met with Pope Francis 16:38 at the Vatican in early June. 16:40 Osteen praised the Pope's 16:43 attempts to make the church more inclusive 16:44 and this is just the tip of the iceberg 16:46 there are all kinds of articles that we can report on 16:48 that's showing that the trend today 16:50 is to break down the walls 16:52 between Protestants and Catholics 16:54 they're basically saying that the Reformation is over, 16:56 Protestantism is dead, 16:58 now it's time for us to come together 16:59 to work together to help improve the world, 17:03 and my question is, has Rome really changed 17:07 or is it still the same Rome that... we go back 17:12 to the 1500s, what do you say? 17:14 Well the same abuses of Power and Authority 17:18 that Luther protested against 17:20 and which the Princes of Europe protested against 17:24 still exist today. 17:26 The Roman Church has not given up 17:28 the teachings on doctrines, 17:30 the teachings on forgiveness of sin, 17:32 the teachings on works and faith together for salvation, 17:36 those teachings... all still exist. 17:38 Is Protestantism alive? 17:41 Protestantism will always be alive 17:44 as long as one person says, "The Bible and the Bible alone" 17:47 That's right, I was in Europe... 17:51 in 1983 and I had a chance to visit the Vatican 17:53 and a number of amazing things happened 17:55 when I was inside St. Peter's Cathedral in Rome, 17:58 I tagged along to a tour group 18:01 and there was a Catholic Tour Guide 18:02 that was taking a group of people 18:04 and she showed them different sites 18:05 and she was a very nice woman 18:07 and right in the middle of St. Peter's Cathedral, 18:09 this big church... there was a big statue 18:11 of, what they say, is Peter... 18:14 and the toes of that statue were not there 18:17 and I was told that they had been kissed off 18:20 by different people three different times 18:23 and the Guide told me, privately, she said, 18:26 "That statue really isn't Peter... it's Jupiter, 18:29 we brought it over from the Greek Pantheon 18:33 and it's kind of an inside... 18:35 'insider information' that that's really not Peter at all" 18:39 and during that same trip I went over to the same church 18:42 where Luther went up Pilot's Staircase 18:45 and I was there, and I went up to the top 18:48 and I looked down at the stairs 18:50 and honestly I still remember it as clear as day 18:52 there were these old ladies that were climbing up those stairs 18:57 on their knees, and I looked at their faces 19:00 and they were just... they were grimacing 19:02 as they put knee... in front of knee 19:04 and I looked at them from the top of the stairs 19:07 and I thought, "You don't need to be doing this 19:09 you don't need to try to earn the favor of God 19:12 by climbing upstairs on your knees 19:14 that Jesus loves you, you can come right to Him" 19:17 but that is not taught in the Roman Church. 19:21 Such things like confession to Priests, 19:24 praying to Mary and the Saints, purgatory, penance, indulgences, 19:31 calling a man, "The Holy Father" 19:35 which is the phrase that is used for the Pope, 19:39 Jesus prayed to the Holy Father in John chapter 17 verse 11, 19:44 He said, "Holy Father" and it was God 19:46 no man deserves that title. 19:49 Those are the things that the Protestant Reformers 19:53 were all protesting against, and as you're saying, 19:56 they're still here today. 19:57 That's right... they're still here today 19:59 so the idea that the reformation really is over 20:02 and that the old issues are behind us 20:05 Brother Coridan... Dean... 20:09 I am convinced that Protestantism 20:12 that Christianity as a whole... 20:15 when comes to this issue... is blind. 20:17 They've lost sight of history, 20:20 they don't understand what the Bible says, 20:23 they don't know what they're dealing with, 20:25 and there's just no question in my mind 20:27 that the issues are the same no matter what we hear, 20:31 no matter what people say, 20:33 just look at the facts, 20:34 the facts are: Rome is still Rome 20:36 Rome hasn't changed, 20:38 what has changed is... 20:40 Protestantism... That's right... 20:41 Protestantism has strayed from the Word of God, 20:44 they no longer know history 20:45 and they've re-interpreted the prophecies 20:48 so they're expecting a "beast" being a man 20:51 to come in the future after the "Rapture. " 20:53 I've done a whole lot of study on this, 20:55 this is probably our best-selling book 20:57 for White Horse Media, it's called "End Time Delusions" 21:00 that deals with the whole history of the Reformation 21:02 and it deals with the switch for what needs to be called... 21:05 or is still called, "Historicism" 21:07 that understands prophecy in the light of history 21:10 going down through the dark ages, 21:11 coming down to today, 21:13 which applied the "beast prophecy" 21:14 to the Papal Power, that has been replaced 21:16 by an entirely new System which you can actually trace... 21:20 back to the Jesuits in the Counter-Reformation 21:24 that has really taken the eyes of humanity 21:27 and of Christians off of the Papal Power 21:30 so they're looking in the future 21:32 to a future Antichrist who is supposed to come 21:34 after the Rapture and so they don't see 21:37 what's happening right now right in front of their eyes. 21:41 Well one of the serious shifts that has taken place is 21:44 the belief and the teaching that America 21:49 or the political system of America 21:52 granted religious freedom, 21:54 when in reality... it was the Protestant Reformation 21:58 that gave America the idea of Religious Freedom 22:02 and if the Protestant Reformation dies, 22:05 freedom in America will die too, 22:07 freedom is based on the concept that we can go to God alone, 22:12 that the conscience is free to say, "Yes" and "no" 22:15 to God without interference from State or Church, 22:19 if we lose that... we will lose freedom in America. 22:22 That's right... that's right... humanity has basic human rights 22:25 given by the Creator. 22:26 That's exactly right and our Constitution says that. 22:29 That's right... in Revelation 13 it talks about 22:32 the second beast forming an image of the first beast 22:35 that what happened in Europe 22:37 is going to be duplicated in America 22:38 and I thought a lot about 22:40 what happened after the Twin Towers came down 22:42 and the Bush Administration, 22:44 in their efforts to try to fight terrorism, 22:48 there were things that have developed where... 22:51 people can now... as potential suspects of terrorism 22:56 they can be whisked away to secret tribunals 22:58 they can be tried without the benefit of the Jury 23:02 they can be... 23:04 there are certain torture techniques 23:06 that can be used to extract information from terrorists, 23:09 in the name of protecting the American people, 23:11 and I'm all for protecting the American people, 23:13 but when you look at the developments 23:15 of how we're dealing with suspected terrorism, 23:17 and the surveillances that are going on, 23:19 that are denying basic rights, 23:21 what we're seeing is a development 23:23 toward the Inquisition 23:25 and we're seeing the development of an image 23:28 in America of what happened in Europe... 23:32 it just fits perfectly. 23:33 Well, you only have a couple of choices, 23:36 Jesus said, "You shall know the truth 23:38 and the truth shall make you free. " 23:41 The further we separate ourselves from the truth 23:45 of the Word of God, 23:46 the less freedoms we're going to enjoy 23:49 and the more Society turns from the Word of God, 23:53 not holding on to what God has given us 23:56 as a heritage, the more we're going to 23:58 lose the freedoms that the Word of God produces. 24:00 That's right, and the Seventh-day Adventists, 24:03 we still consider ourselves Protestants 24:06 now that doesn't mean that we hate anybody, 24:09 I've got a good friend of mine 24:13 who is a Catholic Talk Show Host on the East Coast 24:15 and I've been on the air with him many, many times, 24:18 and it's time for me to communicate with him 24:21 about these issues 24:23 because these issues are right in front of us, 24:25 and I believe that God loves Protestants, Catholics, Jews, 24:29 Muslims, Wiccans, Republicans, Democrats, 24:32 all of us, Jesus died for us all, 24:34 but the Scripture is the Scripture, 24:36 the Bible is the Bible the truth is the truth, 24:38 and prophecy... the sure word of prophecy 24:40 is the sure word of prophecy, 24:41 and we're living in the final days of earth's history 24:44 and we need to know what's going on 24:45 and what the prophecy says, and what the future holds 24:48 for America and for the world. 24:49 Historically, Protestantism has always stood 24:53 faith alone, grace alone, Scripture alone, 24:57 if we move away from any of those three, 25:01 we cease to be a Protestant. 25:04 That's right and it's... it's becoming obvious 25:08 to those of us that are studying 25:10 that Revelation 13 is being fulfilled 25:14 right in front of our eyes, 25:16 I want to... just as we're... 25:17 we only have a couple of minutes left, 25:18 in Revelation chapter 13, the Bible talks about the beast, 25:23 Revelation 13 verse 7 says, "Authority was given him 25:27 over every tribe, tongue, and nation" 25:29 verse 8 says, "all who dwell upon the earth 25:32 shall worship him 25:34 whose names have not been written in the book of life, 25:37 of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. " 25:41 So, really the issue in prophecy is the lamb versus the beast. 25:45 That's right... 25:47 And the beast claims to be a follower of God, 25:50 but all of its massive traditions lead away 25:53 from simple faith in Jesus Christ alone, 25:55 and from the Bible, as the Word of God, 25:58 as our only guide, I want to close with a statement 26:02 from Martin Luther 26:03 at the height of the Protestant Reformation 26:06 he was called in April 1521 before a vast assembly 26:10 Charles the Fifth was the Emperor, 26:12 there was a vast assembly of Catholic Theologians 26:15 and people and Princes of Germany 26:18 and Luther was then called to answer for his faith 26:21 and to recant... and to give up his teachings 26:25 and he said this, he said... 26:26 "My conscience is captive to the Word of God 26:28 I cannot and I will not recant... 26:31 because it is neither safe 26:33 nor wise to act against conscience, 26:37 here I stand... I can do no other... 26:40 so help me God. " 26:43 Amen... And our conviction is... 26:45 that it is time to continue the Reformation 26:47 it's time to stand up for Jesus, 26:49 for the Bible and for the truth. 26:51 It's time to uphold the great Protestant truths 26:54 that moved the world in the time of the 1500s 26:58 and as we near the closing of time 27:00 the last prophecies are about to be fulfilled 27:02 God wants His people to stand for Jesus, 27:05 to stand for the Bible, to stand for the truth, 27:08 no matter what the cost, we may be brought before kings, 27:12 and we'll have to say, "By the grace of God, 27:14 I stand by the Bible, here I stand, 27:17 so help me God. Amen. " 27:19 Amen... Let's do it... 27:21 Today we have a special offer 27:23 called "The Time is at Hand Information Packet" 27:27 this offer is only $15 for ten great pocket books, 27:30 one DVD titled, "Earth's Final Crisis" 27:32 and the classic "The Great Controversy. 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