Participants: Karen Thomas (Host)
Series Code: IAADD
Program Code: IAADD000021A
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00:27 Welcome to Issues & Answers.
00:29 Did you know that the prevalence 00:31 of child's sexual abuse is difficult to determine 00:35 because it is often not reported. 00:37 Experts agree that the incidents 00:40 are far greater than 00:42 what is reported to authorities. 00:44 Our guests today are gonna talk about this subject. 00:47 It is Cheryl Williams Jones and David W Jones II. 00:52 Cheryl received a degree in Human Development 00:54 from California State University, 00:56 San Bernardino. 00:57 She is the author of the new book, 00:59 'The Wedding Cake' a girl's guide to good choices. 01:02 Cheryl is the President and Co-founder 01:04 along with her husband David, 01:06 of 'All Of God's Children', 01:08 a non-profit organization that strives to guide 01:11 and improve the lives of children 01:13 who have been victims of physical 01:16 and emotional abuse. 01:17 She's been featured on many platforms 01:19 including the radio show, Rave Women in Los Angeles. 01:23 Cheryl is married to David. 01:25 And David attended La Sierra University. 01:28 He is a certified Therapeutic Crisis Intervention trainer 01:32 through Cornell University. 01:34 David and Cheryl had been married 15 years 01:35 and have been taking care of 'All God's Children' 01:40 from the very beginning. 01:42 Welcome to the program, Cheryl and David. 01:45 So glad you could come. 01:46 Thank you so much for having us, Karen. 01:47 Thank you very much for having us. 01:49 So, first I'm gonna ask you, 01:50 did you have any idea that you were gonna be involved 01:54 in a work with children who have been abused? 01:57 Well, I have. 01:58 This is a dream come true for me. 02:00 I have wanted to do this since I was a very young child. 02:03 Really? 02:04 So, yes, this is something that I have always wanted to do. 02:07 Yes, for me, growing up, 02:09 this was not part of my life experience, 02:11 knowing anything about children in this form of care. 02:15 But it's funny how life brings you full circle. 02:19 And brings you even to some of your past experience, 02:22 past experience of your, of generations 02:24 that you didn't even know were available or were there. 02:28 My grandmother actually grew up not too far from here 02:32 in a Catholic orphanage out of St. Louis, Missouri. 02:36 And growing up, you know, you would hear stories. 02:40 You know, you would hear about large orphanages 02:42 and that sort of thing. 02:44 Right. 02:45 But as it is presented today, you know, 02:46 I didn't even know that 02:48 that was out there or available. 02:50 My first job out of high school, 02:52 I was a camp counselor. 02:54 And now I find myself working with children all over again. 02:58 Even though this is not 02:59 what I had designed for my life. 03:00 I guess, this is what God designed for my life 03:02 which is always more important. 03:04 Amen. Amen. 03:05 Now you said that you actually planned to-- 03:08 What did you planned since you were a small girl? 03:10 Well, my dad's a retired social worker. 03:14 And he would come home and share stories with us 03:17 about how difficult it was to place 03:21 a large family of siblings. 03:23 And those stories would touch me and I, 03:25 you know, as I got older, that's something that I just, 03:28 you know, always wanted to do. 03:29 Now did you come from a perfect family yourself? 03:32 Had you ever had any type of crisis that would help you 03:35 to be able to relate to the children 03:36 that you are helping now? 03:38 No, it's just, you know, listening to my father 03:40 and him sharing the stories 03:42 and his struggle of finding good quality homes 03:45 for the children. 03:46 I remember one of his stories in particular 03:47 he shared with me was about there were six siblings, 03:50 ages range from infancy to about 13. 03:55 And how, when it was time to place them, 03:57 they just simply did not have the placement 03:58 for six children, 04:00 having all have to be separated. 04:02 And stories like that really inspired me 04:04 to do what I'm doing today. 04:05 Okay. 04:07 So before you got, before you found it, 04:09 'All God's Children', 04:11 what type of work were you involved with? 04:14 I was in telecommunications. 04:15 Telecommunications? Yes. 04:17 And I understand 04:18 that you also were a Big Sister at one point? 04:21 Yes, I was volunteer Big Sister. 04:24 I also did volunteer work 04:25 at Juvenile Hall at Riverside, California. 04:28 Volunteered? 04:29 Yes, I was a volunteer counselor. 04:31 I work with boys... 04:34 ages, I think, it was ten to twelve. 04:37 And I also worked at other residential homes. 04:40 So what was, you guys have group homes. 04:42 Is that right? Residential Care, yes. 04:44 Residential Care? What's the difference? 04:48 Well-- 04:50 Well, we actually just don't like 04:53 that connotation because-- 04:56 It sounds too institutionalized. 04:57 Yes. Okay. 04:58 And so we more call it a home. 05:00 So what we do, we work with children 05:02 that are most at risk that are out there. 05:06 Because of the behaviors that they, that they present, 05:10 because of that all the trauma that has occurred 05:13 in their lives, they act out. 05:15 It's no surprise to us that they act out 05:17 because you would kind of expect 05:19 you've been through all of this. 05:20 But the scene is that they don't have 05:21 the coping skills that we have or that-- 05:25 Children that would be in a more established 05:29 or traditional home might have. 05:33 And so they haven't developed those skills 05:34 but they've learned ways to survive. 05:37 They've got, they have, what we call survival skills. 05:40 And so they act out in very bizarre ways and, 05:44 you know, when you see that and it's presented, 05:46 then we are willing to work 05:49 with those challenging behaviors. 05:51 But what happens that once you start saying, 05:53 you know, put it into a more facility type term, 05:57 then it makes the children feel like 05:59 they're more of in a facility type place. 06:01 We want them to feel like they're at home. 06:02 So, we reference where they live is home. 06:05 As home? 06:06 Not as a group home, it's just a home. 06:08 So, we have a home for boys 06:09 and we have a home for our girls. 06:10 We do. Okay. 06:12 So now, is this the same as foster care? 06:15 Well it's actually a step above foster care. 06:18 Yes. It's a step above. 06:20 well it's a more therapeutic structured environment, 06:22 and there's someone awake 24hours for supervision. 06:26 So the children that are in our care 06:29 have not been able to maintain their placement in foster care. 06:33 So the system has required for them 06:36 to actually move to higher level. 06:38 There's more therapy, there's more testing and, 06:41 so that's what... 06:43 So, our children receive therapy from us. 06:45 They receive individual therapy, 06:47 group therapy. 06:49 If need be, we can offer family therapy. 06:52 They receive therapist once a week from us 06:54 and more sometimes if necessary 06:56 depending on what their needs are. 06:58 In addition to that, if they need psychiatric care, 07:02 then we get them involved with psychiatrists 07:05 for medication issues. 07:07 So we actually have the children 07:08 that are more emotionally disturbed 07:09 than children in foster care. 07:11 So, we have fire starters, 07:14 the ones that are abusive to animals, 07:15 the ones that have sexual issues, 07:18 the ones that just simply need supervision 24 hours. 07:21 Yeah, but you have to understand that a child 07:23 has been physically abused, 07:24 that's how they're going to act out. 07:26 Probably is physically, 07:27 as child has been sexually abused, 07:28 may act out sexually. 07:30 They're communicating their pain 07:31 through their inappropriate behaviors. 07:33 Wow. 07:34 So it sounds like-- 07:35 Do you do all the care yourself or do you have staff? 07:37 We have a lot of help. We do. 07:39 What type of people help? 07:41 We may have between 22 to 32 individuals 07:45 that work with our program, 07:46 work with us with the children not including therapist. 07:50 The type of individuals that would look to work with us, 07:54 are those individuals, generally, 07:55 that are seeking to go into these type of fields. 07:57 And that's what we look for when we look for employees 08:00 'cause we like screen our employees 08:01 like we're screening children. 08:02 Because it's very important that the whole milieu fits. 08:04 Right. 08:06 So, we actually post jobs for, 08:09 for all those surrounding colleges which is four, right, 08:11 four surrounding colleges. 08:12 I think it's even more than that. 08:14 And so we actually look for people 08:16 that are interested in working with children, 08:18 that are studying in the social sciences. 08:20 But the majority of our, our employees 08:22 because they like it so much and it becomes, 08:25 like I said, you know, we try to create a family feel, 08:27 most of them come word of mouth. 08:29 Right. 08:30 Or from their college professor saying, 08:31 "Hey, listen, you know what, you're going in this field, 08:33 you need some work experience, call these people." 08:36 So you said you weren't sure, 08:37 you didn't know you wanted to do this from very beginning? 08:39 A long time. 08:41 You weren't sure that you wanted to do that. 08:43 How did you get started? 08:44 This sounds like a pretty big enterprise for newlyweds. 08:50 Well, let's see. 08:53 We started, it was you know, 08:54 was it something I wanted to do like I said, 08:56 my father, you know, with his line of work 08:59 really supported me or supported us. 09:03 We started out with absolutely nothing. 09:07 We lived over in a room, 09:08 over a garage for eight years with no heat. 09:12 Just trying to get the business going and-- 09:14 It felt like the room started at your desk and ended 09:17 with this chair, it was that's off. 09:19 That scenes were the first eight years of our marriage 09:21 but it all worked out and, we really enjoyed-- 09:25 Well, you know, honestly, I ran from it. 09:27 I mean, I wanted to support my wife of course, 09:31 this is what she wanted to do. 09:32 So, I felt well, God wanted me to support her. 09:35 But I found out 09:37 that I'm spending all of my extra time here 09:39 because they're having fun and doing all the fun things 09:43 that I enjoyed doing. 09:45 So after a couple of years of asking, she quit asking. 09:50 I did. I did. 09:51 And we started with six clients and now we have 18. 09:54 Eighteen children? Yes. 09:56 Now tell me about the home environment. 09:58 So you said you-- 09:59 The first home. What was that like? 10:00 I mean, what is the typical environment for these, 10:03 for the children? 10:04 Is it like a building that you have? 10:06 No, no, it's our home. We lived there first. 10:10 And then we moved to that little room over the garage. 10:15 How big is the home? 10:17 Well, the house is 3,000 square feet. 10:19 Around half an acre. 10:20 A little over half an acre. 10:22 And the other home is one acre. 10:23 Yes, but six years later, we after seeing siblings 10:28 not be able to grow up 10:32 with their brothers and sisters. 10:33 Right. We opened the girls' house. 10:35 That inspired us to open the girls' home. 10:36 And it showed us where the home was at. 10:39 Just, it actually showed her where the home 10:40 was at because she drove, she drove... 10:42 You tell 'em Tell me about that story. 10:44 Well, we submitted our application to expand. 10:47 And we could not find a location that we wanted. 10:50 Again I was driving by and I was like praying, 10:53 "Lord, if You could please just find a home for us." 10:56 Looked out, I pass this way every day, 10:59 and there was this huge sign saying "House for sale." 11:03 It only been up, the lady said, for three hours. 11:06 Three hours? Only been up three hours. 11:09 I called my husband and said 11:10 we have to go talk to this lady. 11:11 She did. 11:13 And it was only three and half miles from the house, 11:14 the first house, the boys' house. 11:16 The houses are a mile and half away. 11:19 Three minute drive, yeah. 11:20 Three minute drive from one house to the next. 11:22 And 20 minutes to walk it. 11:23 And I always tell our employees that 20 minutes to walk 11:26 is really important 11:27 because if you don't exercise young children, 11:30 young children will definitely exercise you. 11:33 So, you get out there and enjoy 11:35 but what was nice is that the God brought us 11:37 something that was only a mile and half away. 11:38 And they-- 11:39 Yeah. 11:41 That's at the Southern California at that. 11:42 So our second home is 4,000 square feet 11:44 on a little over acre. 11:46 Over acre. Wow. 11:47 And it's a little bit further out into the country. 11:49 Oh, that's awesome. 11:51 So how do you make this a home? 11:54 You said that it's not a office building, 11:56 it's not an institution. 11:59 Well, you fill it with love, you fill it with good memories. 12:02 My children come with a lot of bad memories. 12:06 So, you try to expose them to new things, 12:09 you try to teach them new ways. 12:12 What kind of... 12:14 My beautiful wife is a wonderful decorator. 12:17 You know, our girls' bathroom 12:19 actually has a chandelier hanging in it. 12:22 Wow. 12:23 Yes, yes, yes. 12:24 And it's very nicely decorated. 12:26 There's little 50s diner where they're eating that, 12:29 we're trying to make it fun because fun 12:31 is our number one motivator in dealing with children. 12:33 Oh, is that so? Yes. 12:35 So, you have to inspire them to want something different. 12:39 So now, the children all have their own space? 12:42 They do. 12:43 Two of them share a room. 12:45 Okay. Yeah. 12:47 So how did the kids come to you? 12:49 Well, they come to us through-- 12:52 Are they referred to you by friends or church? 12:55 No, through the counties, through someone, you know, 12:57 county, Riverside County, and Imperial County. 13:00 Imperial, Collin County, all of the surrounding counties, 13:03 San Diego County, we have had children from a, all over. 13:07 We, when we are full which is most of the time 13:10 unfortunately, we have 18 clients. 13:14 So, you start multiplying that by 17 years 13:19 of being in business? 13:20 Right. 13:22 And we have had hundreds of children. 13:25 So the phone gonna ring in the middle of the night-- 13:26 Wonderful. Yeah. Yeah. 13:27 So, the phone can ring in the middle of the night, 13:29 and there can be, maybe a drug bust or something going on. 13:32 And sometimes we get children in the middle of the night 13:34 in their little pajamas. 13:35 And they are so scared, and, you know, 13:38 they'll just stand holding teddy bear 13:40 and they don't know what to do. 13:41 And you can get them in the middle of the day, 13:43 the phone rings all the time. 13:44 We never know. 13:45 So, children come to us as young as seven years old. 13:47 In fact actually this morning, 13:48 I received a call from one of the counties, 13:52 for a seven year old that 13:53 we actually do not have room to take. 13:56 And often times, especially because that has become 14:01 what we are known to work well with is the younger children. 14:05 Although we are licensed through 14:07 a non-minor dependence... 14:11 There are no places for them. 14:13 So, you're saying that this is just such an important issue 14:17 that unfortunately, it's a crisis, 14:22 even where you're living. 14:23 Yes. 14:24 And of course, we're seeing this across the United States. 14:26 It's a crisis that so many children 14:28 are going through this. 14:30 And the God has given you all the ability to be able 14:34 to make a difference in the lives 14:36 of some of these precious children. 14:38 What kinds of fun things do you with the kids? 14:41 Well, got lots of fun things. 14:43 Fly kites, go to the beach... 14:47 camp. 14:49 I love camping, we love camping. 14:51 We have taken our children from California, 14:54 the Pacific Ocean all the way to the Atlantic Ocean. 14:57 We have even brought them here to 3ABN, or close to 3ABN. 15:00 Yes, we have been. Yes, they have been here. 15:03 We took a trip with a busted down van 15:05 when we first got started. 15:06 It was back in 2,000. 15:08 And we had five little boys with us. 15:13 And we went through the Rockies, 15:16 down through the plains, the southern plains of Kansas 15:19 and on toward, we ended up at Rin Lake out here, 15:22 at, by 3ABN. 15:24 We did, we did. 15:26 And then we went on to D.C. 15:27 I think that year we did 27 states in 35 days. 15:32 But, I have to tell you about the van. 15:33 The van was 12 years old. 15:36 And we left California with three good tires, 15:39 and one was just a prayer. 15:41 It was all busted. 15:42 By the time we came back, it was so painful. 15:44 One tire was bad. 15:45 But yeah, there was-- 15:46 That was all painful. 15:48 So now how do you travel with the kids? 15:49 Now we travel in an RUV. We do a little bit better now. 15:50 We do a little better. 15:52 I don't sleep with a foot in my face. 15:54 We do. 15:55 Well, when we first purchased the RUV, 15:57 we had to make some moderations we changed it 15:59 around so that it could accommodate more children. 16:01 More kid friendly. So yeah. 16:02 But even then, we still, I mean, it's camping. 16:05 You belong in a tent. 16:06 So, all the kids get their own tent? 16:08 Yeah. 16:09 Yeah, they definitely have tent. 16:11 They all have, they all have their own tents, 16:12 their own sleeping bag, everything. 16:14 They're able to put the tents up together themselves. 16:16 Yeah. 16:18 We practiced whatever we need... 16:19 And we get out make sure we have a great time. 16:21 And it's amazing because being out in nature 16:24 calms the children. 16:25 It really does. 16:27 And being out in the areas 16:28 that they are not used to in like for a-- 16:29 It draws us closer and builds trust. 16:31 Yeoman in Yellow Stone or out by us 16:35 is you'll see many are Mammoth Lakes. 16:38 They learn to trust each other, 16:40 and trust in us a little bit more as well. 16:42 So, I understand that just from your experiences 16:46 something wonderful happened with you, 16:49 Cheryl, you wrote a book? 16:50 Yes, yes, I did. 16:51 Tell us about the book. 16:53 What's the title? You have it with you? 16:54 Yes, I do. Oh there it is, right there. 16:57 Okay, so tell us about... 16:58 It's called "The Wedding Cake Book, 17:00 " and a girl's guide to good choices. 17:03 It's a book to be used as a tool 17:05 to speak to young ladies about the importance of abstinence, 17:08 and the consequences of premarital sex. 17:10 Okay. 17:12 So how did that come to be? 17:15 What, you know, had you written other books before? 17:17 No, no. 17:19 Writing a book was something I'd never aspired to do. 17:21 No desire to ever write a book. 17:23 But I found that I was struggling 17:26 with talking to our girls, 17:28 about the importance of respecting their bodies. 17:30 And I was continually getting calls 17:33 from the principal about finding my girls 17:36 in inappropriate situations 17:39 and when they'd come home, 17:40 I would just try to speak to them 17:42 about the importance of respecting their bodies 17:44 and making good choices. 17:46 And I wasn't very good at it. 17:48 I wasn't reaching them and I felt really frustrated. 17:51 I actually went to a large local bookstore, 17:54 and I was speaking to the lady at the store. 17:57 And I said, you know, "Do you have anything 17:58 that I can use as a guide to talk 18:00 to these young girls about abstinence?" 18:03 And, you know, she went to her computer and she is just, 18:06 you know, "We don't have anything here." 18:08 So, I left and I just, you know, 18:10 a couple of weeks passed and I got another call 18:13 from the principal and... 18:16 This time I started praying. 18:17 I was driving to the girls' house and I said, 18:20 "Lord, if You could please just give me 18:22 something to help these girls." 18:24 Yes. 18:25 You know, I really need to reach them. 18:27 And in about three minutes, 18:30 all these different ideas starting to pop into my head. 18:33 Wow. 18:35 It was almost like I was brain storming, 18:36 like anything that I had to do with little girls 18:38 was just popping in my head like Barbies, 18:40 Princess, things like that. 18:42 By the time, I got out of my car, got to the door, 18:44 I had the metaphor of "The wedding cake" 18:46 in my head. 18:48 And I was speaking to little girl, 18:51 we went to the backroom, 18:52 and I started sharing this new idea 18:55 that I had in my head with her. 18:57 And she looked at me and she said, 18:58 "Cheryl, I understand 19:00 what you've been trying to tell me now." 19:02 And I said, "You do?" 19:03 I was surprised. 19:05 And so I just, over the year, 19:06 I just started developing a story 19:08 and it started growing. 19:09 So for five years, I used the metaphor, 19:11 "The wedding cake". 19:13 And at one staff meeting, one of my employees said to me 19:18 we got a new client and she says, 19:19 "Mrs. Cheryl, we need to share the story with another girl, 19:22 a new girl." 19:23 And I said "Okay. In next week, I will do that." 19:25 So David here, my husband-- 19:27 During the staff meeting. 19:28 In the staff meeting, they are like, "Oh, Mrs. Cheryl, 19:32 so and so needs you to talk to her about the Wedding Cake." 19:37 And wedding cake? 19:39 And one of my male staff's like "Wedding cake, 19:40 I want some wedding cake. 19:42 I love wedding cake." 19:43 Yeah, who doesn't love cake, right? 19:45 So, you know, I asked her about it. 19:49 And she is like, "Don't worry about it, it's nothing." 19:51 So it kind of out of sight, out of mind. 19:54 And it comes up again. 19:56 So I said, "What is this about the Wedding cake?" 20:00 And-- 20:01 So we got home. 20:03 I have been using for like five years 20:04 to talk to the girls about the importance 20:06 of abstinence and respecting their bodies. 20:08 So, we get to home and he, I was sitting on the couch 20:11 and David, he is lot bigger than I am, 20:13 takes his leg and lays it over my leg and he says, 20:16 "I am not gonna let you up until you tell me 20:18 about this metaphor and this wedding cake." 20:20 Okay, good. 20:21 Let's take a look at that book, please. 20:25 What a beautiful cover it is? 20:26 Thank you. 20:28 Beautiful green, The Wedding Cake. 20:30 Oh, this seems very interesting picture on the back. 20:32 Yes, it is. 20:34 It's got a bride in the middle, has two boys. 20:36 Yeah, one was the groom holding the crumbs 20:39 and the other is the young man 20:40 that has enjoyed the wedding cake. 20:43 Now, let's look into it and see what's inside, everybody. 20:46 Okay. 20:48 So, this looks like the beginning, 20:51 got a lot of presents, beautiful gifts, okay. 20:54 What does this picture represent? 20:56 The perfect wedding cake. 20:58 So, the wedding cake historically has been a symbol 21:02 of fertility for the women, and so, 21:07 I just had my illustrator put the perfect cake 21:10 there just displaying the table cloth and the knife, 21:14 and the, what you're gonna be using for the first time. 21:17 And as I understand it, that's our child. 21:20 Right. 21:22 Wow, okay. 21:23 Let's go to another picture. 21:26 Seemed things have changed, what's going on here? 21:29 Well, I used the wedding cake as a metaphor. 21:33 So as you flip through the pages of the book, 21:36 you're going to see that with each choice 21:38 that you make with each young boy, 21:41 your wedding cake is going to transform. 21:43 So it's going to go from the perfect wedding cake 21:46 to this particular illustration 21:48 it has the cake tilted a little bit, 21:50 and it has the finger swipe. 21:53 Finger swipe. 21:55 That would be the boy that just wanted it a little taste. 21:59 This one says the second boy. 22:01 The second boy again, the cake transforms. 22:04 So now, you have a cake that has, it's tilted even more. 22:08 It has the fingers swiped from the first boy along 22:12 with the bite out of the cake from the second boy. 22:18 Oh, my... 22:20 Yes. Tell us about it. 22:21 The third boy. 22:24 He has eaten some of the lovely 22:26 little pink flowers off of the cake. 22:28 And the cake is tilted even more. 22:31 You have the bite and the finger swipe. 22:34 So, basically as you go through the book, 22:36 all the illustrations are simply just showing you 22:39 how with the choices you make... 22:42 Yes, yes, you can see that the icings, the-- 22:46 Icing is off the cake. 22:48 Is there any icing left? 22:49 Just a little bit icing. 22:50 All the roses are gone. 22:52 There's a little bit of icing left. 22:53 But it just, the illustrations are powerful 22:56 for young girls, because it actually shows you 22:59 how your choices affect your body. 23:02 Yes, that's one of my favorite pictures there. 23:04 Why? 23:06 Because it's the result of all your bad choices. 23:09 And you can clearly see it. 23:11 So it clearly shows it? Yes. 23:12 There is no icing on that cake. 23:13 No, not. Not one drop. 23:15 Shows everything? Yes. 23:18 Yes, it does. 23:22 And that one, I like it because it just kind of speaks 23:28 to what the choices you've made, 23:31 how they are going to affect the husband, your-- 23:33 The man you chose to marry. 23:35 And I like the little napkin on that guy 23:38 who has been eating your cake, how his face looks, and-- 23:40 You know, to me that picture right there kind of-- 23:43 Kind of says it all, kind of sums everything up to you, 23:45 how your choices are. 23:47 What does it say? How to fix. 23:48 Well, you know, one guy said 23:51 that they are licking his chops, 23:52 'cause he has enjoyed everything 23:53 when the person who was going to commit is a, 23:56 you know, more or less left with all the fall out 24:01 of what happens with relationships 24:03 when you have these the choices. 24:05 And it's all everything that you're bringing to a marriage. 24:07 And then the young lady looks like 24:09 she is kind of trying to deal with all of her choices 24:11 right there on her wedding day 24:12 looking at her husband's expression. 24:15 Wow. 24:20 Now this is when you get a little bit more explicit 24:22 and you start teaching the girls? 24:24 Right. 24:25 So this-- 24:26 It's actually transmitted diseases, and other things? 24:29 So in this book, I, again, it's a guide. 24:32 So you're going to use this book 24:34 according to where your child is 24:36 and according to the questions that they ask you. 24:37 So you can go into more detail, 24:39 or you can just kind of just stay general, 24:41 depending again on where your child is. 24:42 So I actually address three different consequences, 24:46 or possible consequences of having premarital sex. 24:49 I might address the STDs, 24:51 and if you look at the illustration, 24:53 it kind of shows, 24:55 it has the symptom of STDs on the actual wedding cake. 25:00 And so depending on where your child is-- 25:02 Little bugs in. 25:04 Bugs? It depends on-- 25:05 So it shows the symptoms of STDs. 25:08 So that illustration you can actually go into more detail 25:11 with your daughter, a young lady, 25:13 or you can keep it more general depending on again 25:15 where she is. 25:17 So it addresses that. 25:18 It also addresses on the possibility of pregnancy. 25:21 And how that's gonna affect your life... 25:24 forever. 25:26 And how that's going to affect your child's life. 25:28 And then I also talk about the emotional aspect 25:30 of having premarital sex. 25:34 And that is where you're in life 25:37 and how you're going to deal with those. 25:39 And how you could possibly carry over those feelings 25:41 into your future relationships. 25:43 Wow. 25:45 And that was happening in this picture here? 25:47 You know, everyone is affected in the relationship 25:49 by the choices that we make. 25:51 That's very true. That's very true. 25:53 It is. Yes, it is. 25:54 What about this picture, Cheryl? 25:56 That picture, I really like that picture. 25:58 Because I like the fact that it shows redemption, 26:01 and I-- 26:03 I like the fact that it had all those different 26:06 words of encouragement for each girl. 26:09 A lot of our girls are victims. 26:11 And they've had things happened to them 26:13 that's by no choices of their own. 26:15 And so, I didn't want them to feel damaged, 26:17 I wanted them to have hope. 26:18 So that's what that picture basically represents. 26:20 It's beautiful. 26:21 They are rebuilding the wedding cake. 26:24 We can rebuild the cake. 26:25 Until it's beautiful and perfect just like before. 26:29 I love this book, it's so nice. 26:31 Thank you, thank you. 26:32 So tell me about All God's children. 26:34 How can people get into contact with you? 26:36 You obviously have a book, 26:37 so that means you do training as well? 26:39 Both of you? 26:40 Well, you can contact us through AllGodsChildren.net 26:42 which is our website. 26:46 And you can, we can purchase the book? 26:47 AllGodsChildren.us. 26:50 AllGodsChildren.us. Yes. 26:53 And we can get the book from the website? 26:55 You can order the book from the website... 26:57 TheWeddingcakebook.net. 26:59 TheWeddingcakebook.net? 27:02 Yes, and you guys are available to be able to travel 27:06 and to be able to help other people 27:08 who are going through some of these things. 27:10 But you have resources on your website? 27:12 Yes, you can contact us through the website, 27:15 or through the 3ABN. 27:16 Fantastic. Fantastic. 27:18 Well, I certainly appreciate your coming and sharing this. 27:21 We enjoyed being here. Well, thank you for having us. 27:22 I wanted to just ask you-- Oh, I am sorry, yes. 27:26 Can you tell me one quick, quick story how is this? 27:29 How is the book? 27:30 What's been the result of the book? 27:31 Has it made a difference with the girls 27:33 that you're working with? 27:34 It has. 27:36 I have to tell you, the book is very effective. 27:37 And what is so inspirational to me 27:41 is that it was a gift to her from God, 27:44 in a very disparate movement. 27:46 And it works. Praise God. 27:49 Well, thank you guys so much, David and Cheryl, 27:51 for coming to the program today. 27:53 Thank you for sharing about the Wedding Cake. 27:55 You know, 2 Corinthians 5:17 says that 27:59 "If anyone is in Christ, man, woman, boy or girl, 28:03 that he is a new creature. 28:05 Old things are passed away. 28:07 We are the workmanship of God, created unto good works." 28:11 That is a message full of hope for everyone. 28:14 Thank you for joining us today. 28:16 Have a blessed day. |
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