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00:21 I'm John Bradshaw. Thanks for joining me. 00:24 When you open the Bible, 00:25 you find some remarkable things said about Jesus. 00:29 I'm gonna turn to John chapter 10 00:31 and read to you what it says in verse 10. 00:34 John 10, verse 10. 00:37 Honestly, it's one of the most hopeful verses 00:39 that you'll find in all of the Bible. 00:41 These are the words of Jesus Christ. 00:43 He said, "The thief does not come except to steal, 00:47 and to kill, and to destroy. 00:48 I have come that they may have life, 00:52 and that they may have it more abundantly." 00:55 How would you feel about having more abundant life? 00:57 What would that look like to you? 00:59 Longer life? Happier life? 01:01 Healthier life? 01:02 Well, there are certain things that you can do 01:04 about all of those things. 01:06 And today I'm talking to a couple of very special guests, 01:08 doctors David DeRose and Greg Steinke, 01:11 coauthors of the book 01:13 "30 Days to Natural Blood Pressure Control." 01:16 Blood pressure--high blood pressure is a killer. 01:20 Doctors, thanks very much for joining me today. 01:22 >>Dr. Greg Steinke: Thank you for having us. 01:23 >>John: Dr. DeRose, how big a problem is high blood pressure? 01:25 >>Dr. David DeRose: It is a huge problem. 01:27 One billion people throughout the world 01:29 have high blood pressure. 01:30 The numbers are staggering in our country as well. 01:33 If you look at our lifetime, our life span, 01:35 about an 80 percent likelihood that any individual in the US 01:39 will develop high blood pressure. 01:40 >>John: Looking through the book, 01:41 I found a staggering number in here: 01:43 80,000 people succumb or die from natural disasters 01:47 around the world-- that's a lot. 01:48 >>Dr. DeRose: That's a lot of people. 01:49 >>John: It's a tragedy-- 01:50 9.4 million, more than a hundred times more, 01:54 die from high blood pressure. 01:56 It is a massive problem, isn't it? 01:58 >>Dr. DeRose: It's a huge problem, 01:59 and we've gotta do something about it, as a world. 02:01 >>John: Dr. Steinke, you're a family practice physician. 02:03 How many of the patients you see 02:06 are dealing with high blood pressure issues? 02:08 >>Dr. Greg Steinke: Every day we see multiple patients 02:09 who become so used to the problem that it, it, it-- 02:13 we think about it as part of our, uh, everyday, uh, aspect. 02:19 >>John: I mean, you think about this, right? 02:21 You meet someone with diabetes. "Yep, sure." 02:23 Heart issues? "Sure." 02:25 High blood pressure-- this is normal for people, 02:28 and we just accept it as part of everyday life. 02:32 Need we accept high blood pressure as the norm? 02:35 >>Dr. Steinke: People think, uh, that it, they feel fine with it, 02:38 and so they act like nothing's wrong. 02:42 And yet, uh, it comes and kills them eventually 02:46 through, uh, a process, uh, that's very sneaky. 02:50 >>John: Yeah, okay, so this is the silent killer; 02:52 we've referred to that before, 02:54 the silent killer, which is high blood pressure. 02:56 Now, uh, we've spoken before about this, Dr. DeRose, 02:59 you and I, uh, about some of the ways that people can treat 03:03 high blood pressure. 03:04 Medication is a viable way to treat high blood pressure, 03:08 except that...? 03:09 >>Dr. DeRose: Well, except for two things. 03:11 One, although it may be the first course-- 03:14 it may be the thing you need to do out of the box-- 03:16 you cannot lower your blood pressure enough with medications 03:20 to get the maximal benefit. 03:21 Once you get to around 130/80, somewhere in that range, 03:25 further lowering of blood pressure, for many people, 03:28 actually increases the risk of complications. 03:31 But you wanna get that blood pressure as low as possible 03:34 with natural therapies. 03:36 So natural therapies have the most power 03:39 to help us avoid the silent killer. 03:41 >>John: Dr. Steinke, what are some things that elevate 03:44 blood pressure, that some people might be surprised. 03:48 Well, really? That elevates my blood pressure? 03:51 Can you think of some of those things? 03:52 >>Dr. Steinke: Well, one really surprising thing in the research 03:55 is what actually happens in the womb. 03:58 Amazingly, as a mother is going through her pregnancy, 04:02 if she has a lot of stress--she goes through mental stress, 04:05 physical stress, emotional stress that's very strong, 04:09 a loss of a loved one, a death in the family, 04:12 if in the 28-week to 36-week continuum-- 04:16 that's where the kidneys are developing-- 04:19 that stress occurs, 04:20 that can affect the development of the kidney, 04:23 and the kidney has less nephrons that develop properly. 04:26 Nephrons--these are the filtering units 04:28 that push blood through to make urine. 04:33 And if there's less nephrons, as you go through life, 04:36 um, your blood pressure is eventually affected. 04:38 >>John: Now, does that mean, then, that a, 04:40 that a pregnant woman who has a loss in the family, 04:43 a parent who dies-- does this, 04:45 does this doom the unborn child to these complications? 04:48 >>Dr. DeRose: We wouldn't say "dooms," 04:49 but we definitely have things that are out of our control 04:53 that affect us, and to me, John, 04:54 it's so fascinating when we read the Bible, 04:56 that God often had special concern for pregnant women, 05:00 especially when God had a special plan. 05:02 I think of, uh, people like John the Baptist. 05:05 I think of, uh, Samson. 05:06 Special instruction, because that time of pregnancy, 05:10 the baby is being affected by what's happening to the mother. 05:13 >>John: There seems to be a science, or a branch of science, 05:16 that we're starting to learn more about what takes place 05:20 in the womb-- the prenatal influence. 05:22 That's, that's the real thing, isn't it? 05:23 >>Dr. Steinke: Absolutely. 05:24 We need to have special attention to pregnant moms. 05:28 We need to give pregnant moms, um, more room in jobs, etc. 05:33 so that they're not overstressed. 05:35 Whatever we can do as family members to support 05:37 a pregnant mother will do wonderful things for that baby. 05:40 >>John: Yeah, that's important. 05:42 Now, that's something that people might be surprised 05:46 raises blood pressure. 05:49 Well, let me turn that around before I ask you 05:51 about a specific chapter in the book. 05:53 What's something, Dr. DeRose, 05:54 that people might be surprised to learn lowers blood pressure? 05:58 >>Dr. DeRose: Well, it's your day-to-day eating habits. 06:00 A lot of people think, uh, some of this is just immaterial. 06:03 Most people have heard about the salt connection, 06:06 so they make that. 06:07 But they don't realize that there are a lot of other things 06:09 that we eat that raise blood pressure and, by contrast, 06:12 other things lower it. 06:13 Make it simple: Eat more plant foods, whole plant foods, 06:17 and you are going to have lower blood pressure. 06:19 Study after study has shown that. 06:20 >>John: Now, the chapter here-- I had it open a moment ago-- 06:22 "Eating Your Way to Lower Blood Pressure" 06:23 I think is the name of the chapter, 06:25 or something very similar-- it's very, very helpful. 06:27 Um, so, eat better; lower blood pressure. 06:31 But, how bad is it for me that I grab that hotdog 06:35 on the street corner, or the burger at lunch, uh, 06:39 several times during the week? 06:41 What does that really do to my blood pressure? 06:42 >>Dr. Steinke: You know, it was interesting-- 06:43 I had a patient; he was a marathon runner. 06:46 He was in great shape. He was only in his thirties. 06:49 But he'd come in, and his blood pressure was always 06:51 very, very high: 150s, 160s, uh, over 70s or 80s. 06:56 He was worried about his blood pressure. 06:58 He couldn't get it down. 06:59 He was trying to do everything right. 07:01 But he was eating too much meat. 07:03 He thought, oh, I'll just eat some red meat here and there, 07:06 no big deal; it's just part of my lifestyle. 07:08 But he was very sensitive. 07:09 As little as, uh, red meat as little as once a week 07:13 was raising his blood pressure. 07:14 Finally, he realized that this was the issue. 07:17 He cut it out completely. 07:18 His blood pressure went completely to normal. 07:21 >>John: Is it fair to say 07:23 most everyone would realize the same benefit, 07:26 or are some people predisposed to certain, uh, stimuli? 07:30 >>Dr. DeRose: We don't want to say "the same benefit," 07:32 because we're all unique, but definitely dietary change. 07:36 A review, in fact, of some 80 studies showed 07:38 that whether your blood pressure was normal 07:41 or whether it was elevated, 07:42 eating more plant foods-- substituting animal products 07:45 for plant foods, lowered the blood pressure. 07:48 >>John: Why are plant foods so powerful? 07:50 >>Dr. DeRose: There's a number of reasons. 07:51 My favorite one to talk about are natural compounds-- 07:54 we call them phytochemicals-- that are in plants. 07:57 We now know that among those phytochemicals 08:00 are ACE inhibitory peptides. 08:02 Now, the average person might say, "Well, who cares?" 08:05 But these compounds in plants are the same type of compounds 08:09 that are in prescription drugs. 08:11 So it's as if the Creator has said, 08:13 "Look, John, I don't want you to have high blood pressure. 08:16 Eat these foods that I gave to Adam and Eve in the garden, 08:19 and it will keep your blood pressure more normal." 08:21 >>John: Now, we go way back, and so-- 08:23 in fact, we three go way back, uh, so I know you're not cranky. 08:28 Uh, and you're not saying, uh, you got to become a, 08:31 uh, some kind of diet radical. 08:34 Although, not that we'd necessarily be against 08:37 somebody really fully embracing the very best health principles. 08:42 Tell me about the sort of incremental changes 08:44 a person can start to make in their diet to be-- 08:47 you spoke about one: eat--not eating red meat. 08:50 What are some other things that people can just do, 08:52 say, try this and see what happens? 08:55 >>Dr. Steinke: We really recommend 08:56 a progressive approach. 08:57 We realize that people can only do so much at one time. 09:00 Uh, fruits and vegetables, magnesium, potassium, calcium-- 09:04 these all have strong benefits for blood pressure. 09:07 So how can I as a person get more fruits and vegetables 09:11 into my diet, you know? 09:14 Can I bring them home more? Can I make smoothies? 09:17 What can I do to get my blood pressure down 09:21 with fruits and vegetables? 09:22 Can I replace certain foods that I'm eating 09:25 with more simple foods, like fruits and vegetables? 09:28 >>John: I think it's true-- 09:30 you know, we talk about the standard American diet-- 09:33 S-A-D, SAD, the SAD diet. 09:36 Well, let's be honest. 09:38 The average person's eating a pretty sad diet. 09:40 >>Dr. DeRose: You're right, John. 09:42 And what's interesting about your whole question 09:44 is we've got a graph in this book, 09:46 probably one of the most powerful graphs, 09:47 and I know it because-- 09:49 Greg has heard me tell this story before-- 09:50 but someone who had heard me present on this topic 09:53 came up to me once, some months after my lecture, 09:56 said, "Dr. DeRose, your lecture changed my whole life." 10:00 And I guess, you know, 10:01 it's possible I was tempted to become proud at that moment, 10:04 but the Lord immediately removed any opportunity 10:07 for me to be proud because he next said, 10:10 "But it was nothing you said." 10:12 >>John: [laughs] Oh, thank God for that. 10:13 All right. All right. 10:14 >>Dr. DeRose: And so I'm thinking, well, 10:15 how did my lecture change his life, if it's nothing I said? 10:18 He said, "It was that graph that you showed." 10:20 It's actually figure 5.3 in the book. 10:22 And what it shows is just where 10:24 your line of questioning is going. 10:26 If you get some of those red meats, 10:27 some of those animal products, out of the diet, 10:29 the research shows you'll lower your risk both of diabetes 10:32 and high blood pressure. 10:34 But the more you get rid of those animal products, 10:36 the lower and the lower and the lower the risk gets. 10:40 So, fascinating data that's out there. 10:42 Eat more of those plant foods; you'll get more magnesium, 10:44 more potassium, more ACE inhibitory peptides, 10:47 and your blood pressure will tend to be lower. 10:49 >>John: And you'll have life more abundantly, 10:51 which is what Jesus came into this world to give us. 10:54 There's more to cover. 10:55 We'll be right back with more in just a moment. 10:58 ♪[Music]♪ 11:08 >>John: So what do you do if you or somebody you care about 11:10 has high blood pressure? 11:12 Well, you don't do nothing. 11:13 There is something you can do. It's important that you do it. 11:16 And it's easy, and it's effective. 11:19 I'd like to offer you a free DVD presented by Dr. David DeRose: 11:24 "Lower Hypertension Naturally." 11:26 To receive it, simply call 800-253-3000, 11:30 800-253-3000. 11:32 Or visit us online at iiwoffer.com. 11:38 ♪[Upbeat music]♪ 11:40 >>Announcer 1: Planning for your financial future 11:42 is a vital aspect of Christian stewardship. 11:46 For this reason, It Is Written is pleased to offer 11:48 free planned giving 11:50 and estate services. 11:51 For information on how we can help you, 11:53 please call 800-992-2219. 11:58 Call today, 11:59 or visit our website: hislegacy.com. 12:03 Call 800-992-2219. 12:08 >>John Bradshaw: Thanks for joining me today 12:10 on It Is Written. 12:11 I'm John Bradshaw. 12:12 My guests today are doctors David DeRose 12:15 from CompassHealth Consulting 12:17 and, uh, Greg Steinke, who's a family practice physician 12:20 in Lincoln City, Oregon. 12:21 Gentlemen, we're talking about a silent killer, 12:24 uh, high blood pressure, which is just, uh, a huge problem. 12:29 We all know people who are dealing with hypertension, 12:32 and it's out of control. 12:33 They don't know what to do. They're taking medication. 12:35 The medication doesn't work; 12:36 it does work; it has negative side effects, and-- 12:38 the key is our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. 12:41 Jesus came so that we could have the more abundant life. 12:44 High blood pressure. 12:44 Now, here's a practical question. 12:47 How do people even know what their blood pressure is 12:49 without, without going to the doctor and making a copay? 12:53 How can you advise someone how to check their blood pressure? 12:55 Not everybody has a blood pressure cuff. 12:57 >>Dr. Greg Steinke: We actually recommend 12:58 that you don't initially go to the doctor 13:00 to check your blood pressure. 13:01 When you go to the doctor, what happens? 13:03 You're nervous. 13:04 Um, your blood pressure tends to be a lot higher. 13:06 >>John: I've heard that. 13:08 If, when you get your blood pressure taken 13:10 at the physician's office, it gives you a higher reading 13:13 because of the pressure surrounding the situation. 13:14 >>Dr. Steinke: Yeah, the "white coat syndrome," they call it. 13:16 >>John: Yeah. Okay. 13:17 >>Dr. Steinke: So, check your blood pressure at home 13:19 in a natural setting, in a setting you're used to. 13:22 Um, if you don't own a blood pressure cuff, go get one. 13:25 Or perhaps you have a friend or a family member 13:27 who has a blood pressure cuff. 13:28 Um, you can go to various stores; 13:30 there's supermarkets and pharmacies 13:32 that have blood pressure, um, machines available. 13:35 >>John: Are they accurate? 13:37 >>Dr. Steinke: Um, they're pretty accurate, 13:38 for the most part. 13:39 >>John: Accurate enough? All right. 13:41 >>Dr. Steinke: You wanna make sure the cuff is the right size. 13:43 Um, if the cuff is too large, the pressure will be off; 13:46 or too small, the pressure will be off. 13:48 But very important that, uh, that you do it accurately. 13:51 But checking your blood pressure at home is important, 13:53 especially if you're making lifestyle changes 13:55 and you're on medication. 13:57 If you're beginning to make some of these changes 13:59 we're talking about, um, your blood pressure will start 14:01 to go down in many cases over a period of a few weeks, 14:05 perhaps a month. 14:07 And if you're not checking your blood pressure, 14:09 you could start to get side effects from, uh, 14:12 the medications becoming too powerful and making you dizzy, 14:17 um, lightheaded, etc. 14:19 >>John: Hmm. Okay, now, 14:21 you really said something that's key to this. 14:25 In order to get your blood pressure under control, 14:29 you need to make changes, right? 14:31 You gotta do some things differently 14:33 to what you're doing now. 14:35 We become creatures of habit, and without thinking it through, 14:38 because we think we're bulletproof 14:39 and we're gonna live forever, 14:40 we think that this burger, my third one today, 14:45 probably will hurt that guy, but not me. 14:48 Somebody considering, thinking right now, 14:51 "Yeah, I got to do something"-- 14:54 how do you move that person to action? 14:56 How do you encourage that person to actually act 15:00 on what they're hearing now, rather than just say, 15:04 "Oh, you'll get around to that one day"? 15:05 Dr. DeRose? 15:06 >>Dr. David DeRose: There's nothing more powerful, John, 15:08 that I can recommend than actually praying 15:11 about your health concerns. 15:13 The Holy Spirit is there to convict, to guide, to comfort. 15:18 So the Holy Spirit is able to point out 15:20 what you need to change today, 15:21 and I often tell my audiences that-- 15:23 "I can't tell you what to change. 15:25 I can't tell you how big to make those dietary changes." 15:28 But I say, "Go in the quiet of your room 15:30 and ask God what He's calling you to do. 15:33 If God's calling you to do it, 15:35 He's not gonna ask you to do anything 15:36 that He's not fully committed to change in your life." 15:40 And that's what the Holy Spirit does. 15:42 It gives you the vision to change, 15:44 and then the power to make those changes. 15:46 >>John: All right, so you take this to God, lay it at His feet, 15:49 and then expect God to work this out in your life? 15:51 >>Dr. DeRose: Well, you know, I'll be honest with you. 15:53 God sometimes works miraculously, 15:56 but other times He says, "This is the way; walk ye in it." 15:59 >>John: Oh, pardon me; I don't mean to suggest inactivity, 16:02 but you're gonna do this-- 16:03 the best way to do this is in cooperation with God. 16:05 >>Dr. DeRose: Definitely, definitely. 16:07 >>John: Now, somebody who is on medication, 16:10 and they, they, they're making changes, 16:12 and they wanna cut back their meds, 16:15 what's the responsible way of going about that? 16:18 >>Dr. DeRose: The responsible way is tell your physician. 16:20 Whoever's prescribing those medications should be involved 16:24 in that process. 16:25 And I'm typically, when I'm seeing those numbers 16:27 getting down, 120 or below, in most people, 16:31 we're starting to back off those medications. 16:34 >>John: We'll be back with more-- 16:36 more that can change your life in this world 16:38 and in the world to come-- in just a moment. 16:41 ♪[Music]♪ 16:51 ♪[Soft music]♪ 16:56 >>Man 1: What does the Bible say about astrology? 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19:05 >>Dr. David DeRose: One group of toxins that we talk about 19:07 that is especially devastating are the heavy metals. 19:10 So whether it's lead, whether it's mercury, 19:12 whether it's cadmium, 19:13 many of these heavy metals raise blood pressure. 19:16 And the scary thing is many people are being exposed 19:19 to these in their typical dietary choices. 19:23 So we're being bombarded with toxins, 19:26 contributing to higher blood pressure, 19:28 and this is adding to the burden of suffering worldwide. 19:31 >>John: Now, we know to get lead out of our paint, 19:33 but how do we get lead or mercury out of our diet? 19:36 >>Dr. DeRose: The problem is most animal products 19:38 concentrate these toxins. 19:40 And unfortunately, one food that has some good constituents-- 19:44 that's fish--some of those fish have those omega-3 fats 19:47 that lower blood pressure and decrease inflammation. 19:50 Unfortunately, those same fish often concentrate toxins. 19:54 So the solution in the book and in our lectures, 19:57 we say don't go to the fish for the omega-3 fats; 20:00 go to the place where the fish got it, 20:02 and that is from plant sources of nutrition. 20:05 >>John: Now, um, another thing that I find fascinating 20:08 is that there are some supplements that you can take 20:10 that help lower, uh, blood pressure. 20:13 And it's--and we're not in the supplement business here, 20:15 but you are in the, in the business of giving good advice. 20:18 So what are some things that people can take, 20:20 uh, that would help with high blood pressure? 20:23 >>Dr. Greg Steinke: Um, the list, uh, that we looked at 20:25 was magnesium, coenzyme Q10, uh, omega-3, which we mentioned. 20:30 And one of my favorites is hibiscus tea. 20:32 Hibiscus is one of the most popular, uh, components 20:35 of herbal teas. 20:37 And hibiscus tea has a number of studies, 20:40 randomized trials, which are careful, controlled studies, 20:43 showing that hibiscus lowers blood pressure, 20:46 as strongly as medication. 20:48 >>John: As strongly as medication? 20:49 >>Dr. Steinke: That's correct. 20:50 >>John: Well, that's fascinating. 20:51 >>Dr. Steinke: So, three cups a day of hibiscus tea, um, 20:55 will lower your blood pressure as strongly as medication. 20:58 But one caution with that: 21:00 Make sure you rinse out your mouth 21:01 after you're finished drinking hibiscus tea. 21:03 You know why? 21:04 >>John: No, why? 21:05 >>Dr. Steinke: Because, um, it can be hard on the enamel. 21:08 >>John: Okay, well, that's good advice. 21:10 Now, you're both Christians. 21:11 Dr. DeRose, you're a minister of the gospel. 21:14 Uh, as you look into the Bible, 21:16 you find sort of a prescription in the Word of God-- 21:20 you, you've referred to this-- in the Beatitudes. 21:23 Walk us through some of these principles in the Beatitudes, 21:26 which talk about a relationship with God 21:29 and some of the lifestyle impacts that has 21:32 that deals with high blood pressure. 21:34 >>Dr. DeRose: It's, it's a fascinating chapter, 21:36 because, as Greg and I and Trudy, our other coauthor, 21:39 were praying about how do we present to people 21:41 across the spiritual spectrum what are spiritual principles 21:45 that can impact our blood pressure, 21:47 we were drawn to the Beatitudes. 21:49 And I'll give you an example. 21:50 As Jesus began that statement of blessings, 21:53 the introduction to His Sermon on the Mount, 21:55 He said, "Blessed are those who mourn." 21:59 That was very early-- the second beatitude. 22:01 >>John: Yeah. 22:02 >>Dr. DeRose: "Blessed," the first one, 22:03 "Blessed are the poor in spirit"--the first one. 22:06 You may say, poor in spirit, mourning? 22:08 This doesn't--how would this help blood pressure? 22:10 >>John: And those were very countercultural principles 22:12 in the context in which Jesus shared them. 22:14 >>Dr. DeRose: Most definitely. 22:15 But as we look at those, and we look at the next beatitude, 22:18 about "Blessed are the meek," 22:20 these--again, countercultural-- but all of them, they're, 22:23 they're basically helping us recognize our dependence, 22:27 recognize our need for God, humbling ourselves. 22:31 And we find that this is so important 22:33 in one of the elements that we spend a whole chapter 22:35 dealing with, and that is social support. 22:37 Because what we know about blood pressure is just like we found 22:40 with diabetes and heart disease and other conditions: 22:43 If you connect with other people, 22:45 and you make changes with other people, 22:47 you, in your church, have a group of people saying, 22:50 "We're gonna lower our blood pressure together," 22:53 that magnifies the impact. 22:55 But the only way that happens, John, optimally, 22:57 is if I'm humble enough to learn from other people. 23:00 If I'm coming down to someone else's level, if I'm meek, 23:03 if I'm submissive, if I'm repenting of my own sins, 23:07 if I'm mourning for my own shortcomings, 23:09 that's when this social support is maximized. 23:12 >>John: So in Matthew chapter 5, Dr. Steinke, 23:15 let me, let me run a couple of these blessings past you. 23:20 "Blessed are the merciful," verse 7, 23:23 "for they shall obtain mercy. 23:25 Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God. 23:28 Blessed"--maybe this is an easy one-- 23:30 "Blessed are the peacemakers, 23:32 for they shall be called the sons of God." 23:34 Talk about heart health or, or, or high blood pressure health 23:38 in relation to that. 23:39 >>Dr. Steinke: One of the most important aspects, 23:40 I believe, is forgiveness. 23:42 "Blessed are the merciful"-- 23:43 people who are willing to extend, uh, an attitude 23:47 of forgiveness to those who hurt them. 23:49 Um, there's a study done by Dr. Dick Tibbits 23:52 in Florida Hospital--amazing research, an eight-week study, 23:56 where he took people who, many of them, had anger issues, 23:59 blood pressure issues, and he walked them through 24:02 a forgiveness, uh, training program. 24:05 And by the end, their blood pressures were down. 24:08 They had a notable improvement in their blood pressure. 24:11 Forgiveness, letting yourself, um, put, put forgiveness 24:17 on another person. 24:18 And also with God, um, asking God to forgive you 24:22 for your shortcomings 24:23 and letting that peace, uh, come into your heart; 24:26 that lowers the cortisol and the stress hormones in your body, 24:31 improving your blood pressure. 24:33 >>John: It's not always easy to accept: 24:35 the Bible says, "All things work together for good." 24:38 Ultimately, we, we've gotta trust God in the midst 24:40 of all things, don't we? 24:41 >>Dr. DeRose: That's right. 24:42 >>John: Trust Him. We don't always understand it. 24:44 Why did my loved one die? 24:45 Why am I wrestling with this illness? 24:47 If you see the big picture, it's still possible to trust God. 24:50 >>Dr. DeRose: That's right. 24:51 >>John: Okay, as we wrap up, just a couple of quick points, 24:53 something we haven't discussed about, uh, high blood pressure, 24:56 its connection to faith in God, its connection to good health, 24:58 spiritual health-- 24:59 what would you, what would you add as final words? 25:01 >>Dr. DeRose: You know, one thing I would say 25:03 is make sure that you know your blood pressure 25:06 and that you do something about it if it's elevated. 25:09 Just a simple motivational message. 25:11 >>John: Dr. Steinke? 25:12 >>Dr. Steinke: Absolutely. 25:13 You know, think about why you wanna be healthy. 25:17 Why, ultimately, do you wanna be healthy? 25:19 Whether it has religious and spiritual aspects to it-- 25:22 maybe it has everything to do with your grandchildren, 25:25 or your children, or, or the friends that you have. 25:30 Think about the deeper aspect 25:32 and use that as a motivator to change lifestyle behaviors. 25:36 >>John: Dr. Greg Steinke, Dr. David DeRose, 25:38 thanks so much for joining me today. 25:39 >>Dr. DeRose: Our privilege. 25:41 >>John: So what do you do if you or somebody you care about 25:44 has high blood pressure? 25:46 Well, you don't do nothing. There is something you can do. 25:48 It's important that you do it. 25:50 And it's easy, and it's effective. 25:53 I'd like to offer you a free DVD presented by Dr. David DeRose: 25:57 "Lower Hypertension Naturally." 26:00 To receive it, simply call 800-253-3000, 26:03 800-253-3000. 26:06 Or visit us online at iiwoffer.com. 26:12 >>John: Thank you for remembering 26:13 that It Is Written exists 26:14 because of the kindness of people just like you. 26:17 To support this international life-changing ministry, 26:20 please call us now at 800-253-3000. 26:24 You can send your tax-deductible gift 26:26 to the address on your screen, 26:27 or you can visit us online at itiswritten.com. 26:31 Thank you for your prayers and for your financial support. 26:34 Our number again is 800-253-3000. 26:38 Or you can visit us online at itiswritten.com. 26:42 >>John Bradshaw: Gentlemen, thanks for joining me today. 26:44 Let's pray together. Can we do that? Let's pray. 26:47 Our Father in heaven, 26:48 we are truly thankful that You have 26:51 an eternity stretching before us 26:53 that You want us to inhabit and experience with You. 26:57 We thank You that in Jesus You have done everything necessary 27:02 to secure our salvation. 27:04 We thank You that in this world, where so much is going wrong, 27:07 we can experience so much going right, 27:10 through faith in Christ, the One who died for us, 27:14 who ascended to heaven for us, 27:15 who intercedes for us at Your right hand. 27:18 Father, let Your Spirit draw us to You, 27:21 to find peace and wholeness and health, 27:26 physically and spiritually, in You. 27:29 Bless us and keep us, as we trust You fully. 27:33 In Jesus' name. Amen. 27:37 Thank you for joining me today. 27:38 I'm looking forward to seeing you again next time. 27:41 Until then, remember: 27:43 "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, 27:47 but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'" 27:52 ♪[Theme music]♪ |
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