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Clearing The Fog: A Conversation On Depression

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00:15 ♪[music ends]♪♪
00:18 >>John Bradshaw: This is "It Is Written."
00:20 I'm John Bradshaw. Thanks for joining me.
00:23 For decades and decades, depression and anxiety
00:26 have presented the United States and other first-world countries
00:30 around the world with a major health care crisis.
00:34 Dr. Neil Nedley spoke with me about this subject
00:37 about 10 years ago.
00:39 He's the president of Nedley Health and for 25 years
00:42 has been successfully treating people battling all forms
00:46 of depression and anxiety.
00:48 And we're catching up again today.
00:50 Dr. Nedley, thanks for being here with me.
00:51 >>Dr. Neil Nedley: Great to be back with you, John.
00:53 >>John: You talk about depression and how
00:55 to successfully treat depression through lifestyle.
00:58 Why would we talk about this when there are already
01:03 myriad treatments for depression?
01:06 Why aren't you saying there's an array of drugs available
01:09 on the market, grab one, and off you go?
01:12 Why are you not saying that?
01:13 >>Dr. Nedley: Well, because those drugs have been tested
01:16 and tried, and all sorts of studies have been done on them.
01:19 They can help certain patients, but their help is limited,
01:24 and they actually don't decrease suicide risk,
01:28 and they don't improve functioning that much.
01:31 Uh, I mean, over placebo, one of the drugs improves function
01:35 by about 6 percent, but most of them don't improve function.
01:39 And depression is a disease that disables.
01:42 It causes a lot of dysfunction, and of course,
01:45 it's also one of the leading causes of death now
01:48 with suicide rates being so high.
01:51 And so, why would we recommend that they take something
01:54 that isn't going to improve in those parameters?
01:58 And so, it's not that we're against medicine.
02:01 We have patients come to our program with medication.
02:04 We'll take them with or without,
02:06 and we'll keep them on their medicine until they're better
02:08 and don't need them, but medications alone
02:12 are not the answer for depression or anxiety.
02:14 >>John: Okay. Be really easy for somebody to say,
02:17 "Well, Dr. Nedley has a vested interest,"
02:19 or, "He's got an ax to grind." I want to ask you, do you?
02:24 And I want to ask you, how much of what you're sharing with me
02:26 is opinion versus hard science?
02:30 >>Dr. Nedley: It's hard science.
02:31 Even the top pharmaceutical researchers in the world
02:36 will tell you that drugs have their limitations
02:40 and that they're not the answer.
02:41 Uh, consensus mental health organizations tell us
02:45 that drugs are not the answer to this problem.
02:49 Once again, they can help in certain situations,
02:52 but they're not the answer.
02:54 We have to go beyond drugs if we're going to eradicate
02:59 and produce the great results that can be obtained
03:02 for depressed and anxious people.
03:04 >>John: In a moment, not right now,
03:06 in a moment I'm going to ask you what the answer is.
03:09 Here's my first question going down that road:
03:13 Is there an answer for depression and anxiety?
03:16 >>Dr. Nedley: Absolutely, there's an answer.
03:18 >>John: You said that unequivocally.
03:19 >>Dr. Nedley: Unequivocally, yes. And we published on it.
03:22 Our case reports are, are very well obtained,
03:26 and the typical patient that we see with depression and anxiety,
03:31 severe, actually, or maybe even extreme,
03:34 will leave our program in 10 days
03:36 with no depression and anxiety.
03:38 And their emotional intelligence will go up.
03:41 Now, it requires their cooperation.
03:43 We have to do a number of different things
03:45 to produce this dramatic change in their brain chemistry
03:49 and their change in their thought pattern,
03:51 but it's well worth the effort.
03:53 >>John: The reason I think it's important we speak about this
03:55 from a, a faith-based point of view is that the Bible speaks
04:00 again and again and again about health,
04:02 and mental health is supremely important.
04:05 Look, just to digress for a brief moment,
04:07 I think it's important we talk about this
04:08 because...too few people speak about mental health.
04:12 Like it or not, there's still a stigma about mental health
04:14 where someone who has a, an ingrown toenail
04:17 is happy to tell his friend he had surgery,
04:19 but somebody with a mental health issue will keep it
04:21 to himself or herself,
04:23 maybe to their detriment or even their demise.
04:26 >>Dr. Nedley: Exactly.
04:27 >>John: And, and another reason we want to talk about this
04:30 is because looking at it from a biblical point of view,
04:32 we see that ultimately, ultimately this thing
04:36 between good and evil is a battle for the mind.
04:39 >>Dr. Nedley: Mm-hmm.
04:39 >>John: So, in one place the Bible says,
04:41 "We have the mind of Christ." We want that as far as possible.
04:43 >>Dr. Nedley: Mm-hmm. >>John: Okay.
04:45 Let's define some things here. What's depression?
04:47 I know you talk about that ad infinitum,
04:49 but briefly, what's depression?
04:51 And help me understand the difference between severe
04:56 and, and, and extreme and these various forms.
04:59 >>Dr. Nedley: Yes. So, a major depression is actually
05:02 a constellation of symptoms. And I use the psychiatric bible;
05:07 the Diagnostic Statistical Manual gives us
05:10 nine hallmark symptoms of depression.
05:12 You don't have to have all nine of them,
05:14 but you have to have five of those nine.
05:17 But two of the classic are deep sadness--
05:20 which you may not even have and still have depression--
05:22 and apathy. This is where you wake up in the morning
05:25 and you're not excited about the day.
05:28 You get up out of duty
05:30 but not because you're interested in the day.
05:33 And that will happen not just once in a while,
05:35 but for a depressed person it'll be there for, you know,
05:38 at least two weeks.
05:39 In addition to that, there'll be energy issues.
05:42 There'll be sleep issues, either wanting to sleep
05:44 all the time or not being able to sleep,
05:47 and waking up too early and not being able to go back to sleep.
05:51 Then there's more irritability than there used to be.
05:54 And then focus and concentration issues
05:57 can also be a major problem, where you're reading something
06:00 that's interesting to you, you get to the bottom of the page,
06:03 and you forget what was at the top of the page.
06:05 And you have to go back and read it again,
06:07 and it might even happen again.
06:09 And that can be a sign of both anxiety and depression.
06:13 >>John: But you're not saying one of those means
06:15 you have depression. You're saying there's nine points;
06:17 if you have five, that qualifies you.
06:19 >>Dr. Nedley: Correct. >>John: So I don't want anyone
06:20 to think because they can't focus on a page, that means
06:24 too much, but it might. >>Dr. Nedley: It might.
06:26 >>John: Yeah. >>Dr. Nedley: It might, yeah.
06:27 >>John: Taken together with other--
06:28 >>Dr. Nedley: Yeah. >>John: ...things.
06:29 We're going to get to the cure, if you like,
06:31 the treatment for depression
06:33 in a moment, but I wanna-- >>Dr. Nedley: Sure.
06:34 >>John: ...ask you this. See, we, we, we've spoken
06:36 about this before. Ten years ago we talked about this.
06:38 >>Dr. Nedley: Right.
06:39 >>John: And society has known for decades
06:41 we have a great problem in this area.
06:43 What's happened in the last 10 years
06:45 in terms of depression and anxiety?
06:47 >>Dr. Nedley: The rates have gone up astronomically
06:50 in the last 10 years.
06:51 And, you know, what has also shifted is depression used to be
06:56 the older you get, the more likely you're going to get it.
06:59 And now we're seeing this big peak among young people,
07:03 adolescents, uh, teenagers, even pre-teenagers,
07:07 and particularly those in their 20s--
07:10 off the charts in regards to depression and anxiety levels.
07:14 And that's changed over the last 10 years.
07:16 >>John: And why is that?
07:17 >>Dr. Nedley: The reason is actually the smartphone usage.
07:22 Uh, it wasn't till about 10 or 11 years ago
07:26 that about half of Americans owned a smartphone.
07:29 And now that smartphone is actually able to distract them
07:35 very easily. And when we are driven to distraction,
07:40 it actually decreases an area of our frontal lobe
07:43 that is precisely the area that's needed
07:45 for managing distressing emotions.
07:49 And so, it's not the smartphone itself, per se,
07:52 but the normal use of the smartphone
07:55 where we're allowing ourself to get distracted by Snapchats,
07:59 texts, push notifications, and even when we get on there
08:04 to do something, we forget why we got on there to do something,
08:08 and we immediately see a text or an email or things like that,
08:12 and that division of attention actually causes
08:16 biochemical, uh, consequences in the brain,
08:20 and those biochemical consequences increase
08:24 the rates of depression and anxiety.
08:25 >>John: So, in recent years it has become much worse.
08:28 In recent years it's affecting far greater numbers
08:32 of younger people. Okay.
08:34 We're going to talk about what a person can do
08:36 about depression and anxiety.
08:40 My guest is Dr. Neil Nedley, president of Nedley Health.
08:43 In just a moment we will talk
08:45 about what a person can actually do.
08:48 Dr. Nedley said a moment ago
08:50 there is successful treatment for depression and anxiety.
08:54 We'll find out what that is straight ahead.
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09:36 >>John Bradshaw: Welcome back to "It Is Written."
09:38 Thanks so much for joining me. I'm John Bradshaw.
09:40 With me, my guest is Dr. Neil Nedley,
09:42 the president of Nedley Health.
09:44 Dr. Nedley, you--we're about to start talking about
09:48 successful treatment for depression.
09:50 Give us a little background here.
09:51 I said for a quarter of a century now
09:53 you've been successfully treating patients.
09:55 >>Dr. Neil Nedley: Correct. >>John: Uh, give me a,
09:57 just a very quick overview.
09:59 What do you see walk in the door? What do you see walk out?
10:04 Once we help people understand what the, the reality is
10:08 of successful treatment, then we'll talk about the treatment.
10:10 >>Dr. Nedley: Okay. So, what we see typically walk in the door
10:13 is someone who is severely depressed
10:17 and also thinking about ending their life.
10:19 At least most of them now that see us
10:22 think that they would be better off dead.
10:25 And they're actually convinced of that, uh,
10:27 when they come to the program.
10:28 It's affected their family life. It's affected their work life.
10:32 It's affected their feelings about themselves.
10:35 Uh, and it has also, uh, caused them to even think
10:40 that they're worthless or that they're of no value.
10:43 And so, uh, that is more of the typical.
10:46 Of course, there can be a lot of varieties, um, concerning that.
10:49 Uh, but on top of it, they'll also have anxiety.
10:53 They'll have social anxiety,
10:54 which is more of our typical patient now.
10:57 Uh, they don't really want to interact with people--
11:01 fear of embarrassment,
11:02 uh, fear of being exposed in some way, shape, or form,
11:06 fear of being judged.
11:08 And so, uh, this is our, um, our typical patient
11:11 that comes in. And of course, they're pretty reticent because
11:14 they're in a new setting, and this has been, you know,
11:16 a big, big challenge for them to even come to the program.
11:20 And on day three, they're not sure
11:23 that they've actually made the right decision
11:26 because it takes time for the therapies
11:29 to actually start changing the brain.
11:31 By day four, they're actually starting to feel better.
11:35 By day seven, it's pretty amazing the difference.
11:39 And by day 10, when they're walking out the door, they say,
11:42 "I don't even really realize who that person was.
11:46 I'm so different now."
11:47 They are motivated. They're self-motivated.
11:51 They're actually sleeping better.
11:53 They're able to interact with people that they don't know,
11:56 uh, and not have that anxiety and fear of judgment.
12:00 They realize that they're a valuable human being,
12:04 and they realize that they have much that they can give
12:06 to their families and, and their work and the world around them.
12:11 And so, depression scale goes from severe, on average,
12:15 to no depression when they're leaving.
12:17 That doesn't mean it's solved.
12:18 They still have to continue to do the things
12:21 that made them better in the program,
12:23 and then they'll even get better yet, uh, two weeks
12:28 after they're in their home environment.
12:30 Some of them get fearful because they say, "I got better here.
12:33 "Now I'm going home, where I was really bad,
12:35 and I'm getting backed into the same place."
12:38 But actually, as they utilize the tools that we've given them,
12:42 they'll actually feel better two weeks after being home
12:45 than the day they left the program.
12:46 >>John: See, this sounds, this sounds miraculous,
12:50 [Dr. Nedley chuckles] like, like people are being reborn.
12:52 But this is what God wants for a person's life.
12:54 And I, I think, as we talk about depression,
12:57 it's really important to point out that depression
13:00 isn't something that the average person can just get over--
13:03 "Why don't you pull yourself together?"
13:05 >>Dr. Nedley: Right.
13:06 >>John: This is-- depression's a monster.
13:08 And it absolutely disables people. Okay.
13:12 Let's talk about the successful treatment. What works?
13:18 And I want you to share with me what works scientifically--
13:21 >>Dr. Nedley: Sure. >>John: ...and verifiably.
13:23 >>Dr. Nedley: Okay. >>John: Okay, so,
13:24 what really helps?
13:26 >>Dr. Nedley: It's actually a combination
13:27 of a number of simple factors we've put together.
13:30 >>John: Simple factors? >>Dr. Nedley: Simple factors,
13:32 like drinking more water.
13:33 >>John: We're talking about...an absolutely disabling condition--
13:38 >>Dr. Nedley: Right.
13:40 >>John: ...where the people suffering from this--
13:41 >>Dr. Nedley: Yes.
13:42 >>John: ...believe in their hearts that the world would be
13:44 a better place without them? >>Dr. Nedley: Right.
13:46 >>John: And you're starting with drink more water?
13:49 >>Dr. Nedley: Drink more water. >>John: Okay, okay.
13:51 I don't want to hear too much more about the treatment.
13:52 [Dr. Nedley chuckles] Take, take 20 or 30 seconds
13:54 and tell me why does that kind of simple thing help.
13:59 What, what's going on in a life
14:01 that something like that could even make a difference?
14:04 >>Dr. Nedley: Well, our brain cells work better
14:06 when they're hydrated. And nothing hydrates like water.
14:10 All the other water substitutes actually take away
14:13 from the hydration of our neurons
14:15 and our ability to have good synaptic activity.
14:18 >>John: Okay. >>Dr. Nedley: And so,
14:19 studies have shown, actually,
14:21 if we just take someone from less than two glasses of water
14:24 per day, which the typical person has,
14:27 to greater than five glasses of water a day,
14:30 their rates of depression and anxiety will actually start
14:33 to improve within a week of that treatment.
14:36 >>John: So what else is effective in the treatment
14:39 of depression and anxiety? Simple things.
14:41 >>Dr. Nedley: Becoming physically fit.
14:43 Physical fitness is actually better for our brain
14:46 than it is our body.
14:48 And cardio exercises actually improve a protein level
14:53 in our brain called brain- derived neurotrophic factor.
14:57 It's kind of a brain fertilizer,
14:59 and it helps the brain get ready for positive changes.
15:02 So, there are some people that are fit
15:05 that come to our program.
15:06 Their causes are different, but most people that come
15:09 are not at the fitness level they should be at,
15:12 and that's why we have fitness experts, and in 10 days,
15:16 and they're going to actually show
15:17 measurable fitness improvement in their cardio
15:21 and a lot of different parameters.
15:23 And that will mirror very much, uh,
15:25 their success during the program.
15:27 >>John: Give me another one,
15:28 and then something I want to run by you.
15:31 >>Dr. Nedley: So, another one is actually light--light therapy.
15:35 So we utilize light in the morning.
15:39 Actually we have them wake up at the same time every morning,
15:43 and then they're exposed to a bright light that actually sets
15:49 their body clock, their circadian rhythm,
15:51 and it also starts the production of serotonin
15:55 in the brain. And those two factors are very important.
15:59 It's going to improve their energy level
16:00 throughout the day, and it's going to improve their ability
16:04 to go to sleep at night.
16:06 In fact, that's one of the best sleep aids,
16:08 is a light therapy box utilized upon awakening in the morning.
16:14 So, they're only exposed to it for about 30 minutes.
16:16 Then we get 'em out and exercise.
16:19 And those simple treatments of hydration, physical exercise,
16:23 and light therapy start the process.
16:26 >>John: You said "simple treatments."
16:28 They are profoundly simple. [Dr. Nedley chuckles]
16:30 It, it seems that what you're doing is actually treating
16:35 the causes of depression--
16:38 not enough activity, not enough water,
16:40 not enough light. >>Dr. Nedley: Yes.
16:41 >>John: You're, you're actually taking us down
16:42 to the granular level in treating the very things
16:45 that cause depression. >>Dr. Nedley: Exactly.
16:47 >>John: That's not how depression is typically treated.
16:48 It's typically treated--
16:49 well, we have a range of possible medications.
16:52 "We'll try this one; come back in a, in a week or two
16:55 or whatever, and maybe we'll change your medication."
16:57 >>Dr. Nedley: Mm-hmm. >>John: As a society,
16:59 we're really stuck on medication,
17:00 as though it's the solution for everything.
17:04 How in the world do we change our thinking?
17:08 >>Dr. Nedley: Well, we have to educate the public that
17:10 it's not just a lack of medicine that's causing depression.
17:14 Uh, it's actually the lack of good brain biochemistry
17:19 that has to do with things like nutrition,
17:22 what we're putting into our body,
17:23 and what we're doing with our body.
17:25 >>John: What do some of the medications actually do
17:27 to the brain?
17:28 >>Dr. Nedley: So, how the typical antidepressant works,
17:33 it's not helping the brain to produce
17:35 more of a neurotransmitter, nor is it helping the receptors.
17:39 When we get to the root cause, we're going to actually help
17:43 the brain produce more of the neurotransmitter,
17:46 and we're going to be helping at the receptor level
17:48 so that the synaptic activity goes up.
17:51 How the drugs work is that they actually plug
17:55 the reuptake channels in the releasing neuron
18:00 of the substance they're trying to treat.
18:01 So, if they're wanting to have
18:03 more serotonin synaptic activity,
18:06 they plug the serotonin reuptake channels.
18:09 And that allows more serotonin in the synapse.
18:12 The problem with it is now we have to make even more serotonin
18:17 because that serotonin's not being vacuumed
18:19 back up into the brain.
18:20 And so it produces a short-term benefit--by "short-term,"
18:23 maybe six months, nine months--and after that,
18:27 now the brain is even shorter in serotonin than it was
18:31 before you started to use the drug, and now you're needing
18:34 dosage increases; you're needing additional medicines;
18:37 you're needing a number of other factors to try to help
18:41 the neuron of its even more severe depletion of serotonin.
18:46 >>John: Simple treatments that work,
18:48 a complex, challenging diagnosis,
18:50 but simple treatments given by God
18:53 that make all the difference.
18:55 More on depression with Dr. Neil Nedley in just a moment.
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20:38 >>John: Thanks for joining me on "It Is Written."
20:40 My guest is Dr. Neil Nedley, who for a quarter of a century
20:44 has been successfully treating people with depression
20:47 and anxiety, in many cases extreme depression and anxiety.
20:53 You've had a great deal of success with this?
20:55 >>Dr. Nedley: Yes.
20:56 >>John: We're talking about
20:57 simple treatments. >>Dr. Nedley: Mm-hmm.
20:59 >>John: I mean, very simple treatments. Let me ask you this.
21:01 When it comes to, uh, depression,
21:04 what role does nutrition play?
21:06 Well, what role does nutrition play in the treatment?
21:10 >>Dr. Nedley: It plays a major role.
21:11 In fact, it is well documented now that nutritional medicine
21:17 is one of the best therapies for depression and anxiety--
21:21 and directed nutritional supplements to actually help
21:25 the individual with the genetic challenges
21:27 that they might have as well.
21:29 >>John: Okay, so what would that look like?
21:30 >>Dr. Nedley: For instance, uh, taking a S-adenosylmethionine
21:36 to help the person methylate and be able to make
21:39 more serotonin and dopamine in their brain.
21:41 >>John: Okay.
21:42 >>Dr. Nedley: If they have a genetic defect,
21:44 they're going to have certain personality traits
21:46 that go along with that defect,
21:48 like a calm exterior and a tense interior,
21:51 tendencies for obsessions, tendencies for addictions,
21:56 and actually being highly competitive.
21:59 Often it's the attorneys or even the sports heroes
22:02 that suffer from mental health issues, and they just need
22:06 more methionine or S-adenosylmethionine
22:10 to help them methylate better. That's a nutritional therapy.
22:14 That is something that's natural;
22:15 it's not something you can get in a pharmaceutical agent
22:18 because the trademark organization won't allow
22:22 something natural to be trademarked.
22:24 It has to be unnatural in order to get it trademarked.
22:28 And so, natural therapies often are superior.
22:31 >>John: Diet--you mentioned nutrition--what about diet?
22:33 What, what am I eating that's helping me
22:36 or mitigating against good mental health?
22:40 >>Dr. Nedley: Yeah, exactly. So, we need to get
22:42 tryptophan in your diet in order to make serotonin.
22:45 And we need to get the tryptophan into the brain.
22:48 So, we don't just give IV serotonin
22:50 because serotonin won't even be picked up by the brain.
22:53 The blood-brain barrier prevents it from going across.
22:56 So we need to get the tryptophan,
22:58 even that's too large to get into the brain,
23:00 so we have to have it with specific carriers.
23:03 And it turns out the best carriers are foods
23:06 that have tryptophan and natural carbohydrates in them.
23:10 And those are going to be more of your plant-based foods.
23:13 One of the reasons why a plant-based diet
23:15 has been shown to be superior to other diets,
23:19 improving depression and anxiety in as little as two weeks,
23:23 once we shift over to a, a highly antioxidant diet
23:28 that has adequate tryptophan and tyrosine
23:30 to make the neurotransmitters we need.
23:32 >>John: So, you can eat certain foods
23:34 that are going to help you. >>Dr. Nedley: Exactly.
23:35 >>John: Generally speaking, they're more plant-based.
23:37 >>Dr. Nedley: Correct. >>John: Okay, okay.
23:39 You mentioned genetics a moment ago.
23:41 I want to ask you about this.
23:43 Are some people genetically predisposed to depression?
23:47 Is that the case? And-- >>Dr. Nedley: Oh, absolutely.
23:48 >>John: Well, if so, what do you do about that
23:49 if it's your genes? >>Dr. Nedley: Well, fortunately,
23:52 we can shut down those bad genes.
23:55 And so, when people come to our program, we measure
23:58 their genetics--and we also measure their epigenetics--
24:02 to see if that gene is active or not.
24:04 And fortunately, it's not medication,
24:07 but it's natural therapies
24:09 that can actually deactivate that gene.
24:12 And then we can actually measure the before-and-after results.
24:15 We can see that the gene was very active to start out with,
24:18 and within a few weeks, we remeasure.
24:21 One of the reason why we do follow-up on our patients
24:23 after they get back is we're actually doing
24:25 follow-up blood work to show that
24:27 that gene has been deactivated.
24:29 Or if it hasn't, there might be some other therapies
24:31 that we can put into the equation that are simple,
24:34 side effect free,
24:36 that'll actually shut down that mutated gene.
24:38 >>John: Thank God there are
24:39 simple solutions. >>Dr. Nedley: Yes.
24:41 >>John: Appreciate what you are doing.
24:44 What I'm hearing as I listen between the lines
24:46 is, is you're following a very, a simple--
24:50 I don't mean in a derogatory way--
24:52 very biblical plan because God wants us
24:55 to have a sound mind. >>Dr. Nedley: Mm-hmm.
24:57 >>John: Can anyone have that sound mind that God is offering?
25:01 >>Dr. Nedley: Absolutely-- >>John: Yeah.
25:02 >>Dr. Nedley: ...absolutely, we, we, the design of our brain
25:06 is tremendous because of its ability to change itself.
25:12 It can dramatically improve under the right conditions.
25:15 And that brain can not only learn new things;
25:18 it can start making better neurotransmitters.
25:21 It can have better receptors.
25:23 It can have much more fulfillment and success.
25:27 Our brains are capable of amazing things
25:30 if we just foster 'em in the right way.
25:33 >>John: There's one thing I would like you to remember.
25:34 That's this; the Bible says,
25:36 "Thou wilt"--speaking about God--
25:38 "Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace,
25:41 whose mind is stayed on Thee: because he trusteth in Thee."
25:43 You read that in Isaiah 26:3.
25:46 "Perfect peace." >>Dr. Nedley: Mmm.
25:47 >>John: The Bible says, "Let this mind be in you,
25:50 which was also in Christ Jesus,"
25:52 speaking certainly of an attitude, an approach,
25:54 a humility, but definitely speaking about a mind.
25:58 When we look, Dr. Nedley, at earth's last great crisis,
26:02 it's a battle for the mind. >>Dr. Nedley: Absolutely.
26:04 >>John: Mark of the beast, the seal of God,
26:06 affixed to the minds of those who receive them.
26:11 I think there are good days ahead.
26:12 There's reason for every last person to be hopeful.
26:14 >>Dr. Nedley: Absolutely.
26:15 >>John: I appreciate you sharing that hope. Thanks so much.
26:17 >>Dr. Nedley: Thank you.
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26:49 >>John: Let's pray together now.
26:50 ♪[soft music]♪
26:51 Our Father in heaven,
26:52 we thank You that Jesus is the Prince of Peace.
26:57 Anxiety and depression are not Your plan for our lives.
27:01 We find no fault with people who find themselves there;
27:05 instead, our hearts beat in harmony
27:07 and in sympathy with them,
27:09 asking that You, Lord, the Great Physician,
27:12 would deliver everyone looking for deliverance,
27:14 would strengthen everyone looking for strength,
27:17 that You would encourage and uphold every last person
27:20 and deliver to each one a sound mind, a transformed life,
27:25 a new experience.
27:26 We thank You for salvation in Jesus,
27:29 and we thank You that through Jesus
27:31 we might have joy on this earth.
27:34 We thank You, and our hope is strong in the return of Jesus.
27:38 We pray with John, who wrote Revelation,
27:40 "Even so, come, Lord Jesus."
27:42 This is our prayer. In Jesus' name.
27:47 Amen.
27:48 Thank you so much for joining me.
27:49 I'm looking forward to seeing you again next time.
27:51 Until then, remember:
27:53 "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone,
27:57 but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'"
28:02 ♪[dramatic, triumphant theme music]♪
28:26 ♪[music ends]♪♪


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