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00:18 >>John Bradshaw: This is "It Is Written." 00:20 I'm John Bradshaw. Thanks for joining me. 00:23 For decades and decades, depression and anxiety 00:26 have presented the United States and other first-world countries 00:30 around the world with a major health care crisis. 00:34 Dr. Neil Nedley spoke with me about this subject 00:37 about 10 years ago. 00:39 He's the president of Nedley Health and for 25 years 00:42 has been successfully treating people battling all forms 00:46 of depression and anxiety. 00:48 And we're catching up again today. 00:50 Dr. Nedley, thanks for being here with me. 00:51 >>Dr. Neil Nedley: Great to be back with you, John. 00:53 >>John: You talk about depression and how 00:55 to successfully treat depression through lifestyle. 00:58 Why would we talk about this when there are already 01:03 myriad treatments for depression? 01:06 Why aren't you saying there's an array of drugs available 01:09 on the market, grab one, and off you go? 01:12 Why are you not saying that? 01:13 >>Dr. Nedley: Well, because those drugs have been tested 01:16 and tried, and all sorts of studies have been done on them. 01:19 They can help certain patients, but their help is limited, 01:24 and they actually don't decrease suicide risk, 01:28 and they don't improve functioning that much. 01:31 Uh, I mean, over placebo, one of the drugs improves function 01:35 by about 6 percent, but most of them don't improve function. 01:39 And depression is a disease that disables. 01:42 It causes a lot of dysfunction, and of course, 01:45 it's also one of the leading causes of death now 01:48 with suicide rates being so high. 01:51 And so, why would we recommend that they take something 01:54 that isn't going to improve in those parameters? 01:58 And so, it's not that we're against medicine. 02:01 We have patients come to our program with medication. 02:04 We'll take them with or without, 02:06 and we'll keep them on their medicine until they're better 02:08 and don't need them, but medications alone 02:12 are not the answer for depression or anxiety. 02:14 >>John: Okay. Be really easy for somebody to say, 02:17 "Well, Dr. Nedley has a vested interest," 02:19 or, "He's got an ax to grind." I want to ask you, do you? 02:24 And I want to ask you, how much of what you're sharing with me 02:26 is opinion versus hard science? 02:30 >>Dr. Nedley: It's hard science. 02:31 Even the top pharmaceutical researchers in the world 02:36 will tell you that drugs have their limitations 02:40 and that they're not the answer. 02:41 Uh, consensus mental health organizations tell us 02:45 that drugs are not the answer to this problem. 02:49 Once again, they can help in certain situations, 02:52 but they're not the answer. 02:54 We have to go beyond drugs if we're going to eradicate 02:59 and produce the great results that can be obtained 03:02 for depressed and anxious people. 03:04 >>John: In a moment, not right now, 03:06 in a moment I'm going to ask you what the answer is. 03:09 Here's my first question going down that road: 03:13 Is there an answer for depression and anxiety? 03:16 >>Dr. Nedley: Absolutely, there's an answer. 03:18 >>John: You said that unequivocally. 03:19 >>Dr. Nedley: Unequivocally, yes. And we published on it. 03:22 Our case reports are, are very well obtained, 03:26 and the typical patient that we see with depression and anxiety, 03:31 severe, actually, or maybe even extreme, 03:34 will leave our program in 10 days 03:36 with no depression and anxiety. 03:38 And their emotional intelligence will go up. 03:41 Now, it requires their cooperation. 03:43 We have to do a number of different things 03:45 to produce this dramatic change in their brain chemistry 03:49 and their change in their thought pattern, 03:51 but it's well worth the effort. 03:53 >>John: The reason I think it's important we speak about this 03:55 from a, a faith-based point of view is that the Bible speaks 04:00 again and again and again about health, 04:02 and mental health is supremely important. 04:05 Look, just to digress for a brief moment, 04:07 I think it's important we talk about this 04:08 because...too few people speak about mental health. 04:12 Like it or not, there's still a stigma about mental health 04:14 where someone who has a, an ingrown toenail 04:17 is happy to tell his friend he had surgery, 04:19 but somebody with a mental health issue will keep it 04:21 to himself or herself, 04:23 maybe to their detriment or even their demise. 04:26 >>Dr. Nedley: Exactly. 04:27 >>John: And, and another reason we want to talk about this 04:30 is because looking at it from a biblical point of view, 04:32 we see that ultimately, ultimately this thing 04:36 between good and evil is a battle for the mind. 04:39 >>Dr. Nedley: Mm-hmm. 04:39 >>John: So, in one place the Bible says, 04:41 "We have the mind of Christ." We want that as far as possible. 04:43 >>Dr. Nedley: Mm-hmm. >>John: Okay. 04:45 Let's define some things here. What's depression? 04:47 I know you talk about that ad infinitum, 04:49 but briefly, what's depression? 04:51 And help me understand the difference between severe 04:56 and, and, and extreme and these various forms. 04:59 >>Dr. Nedley: Yes. So, a major depression is actually 05:02 a constellation of symptoms. And I use the psychiatric bible; 05:07 the Diagnostic Statistical Manual gives us 05:10 nine hallmark symptoms of depression. 05:12 You don't have to have all nine of them, 05:14 but you have to have five of those nine. 05:17 But two of the classic are deep sadness-- 05:20 which you may not even have and still have depression-- 05:22 and apathy. This is where you wake up in the morning 05:25 and you're not excited about the day. 05:28 You get up out of duty 05:30 but not because you're interested in the day. 05:33 And that will happen not just once in a while, 05:35 but for a depressed person it'll be there for, you know, 05:38 at least two weeks. 05:39 In addition to that, there'll be energy issues. 05:42 There'll be sleep issues, either wanting to sleep 05:44 all the time or not being able to sleep, 05:47 and waking up too early and not being able to go back to sleep. 05:51 Then there's more irritability than there used to be. 05:54 And then focus and concentration issues 05:57 can also be a major problem, where you're reading something 06:00 that's interesting to you, you get to the bottom of the page, 06:03 and you forget what was at the top of the page. 06:05 And you have to go back and read it again, 06:07 and it might even happen again. 06:09 And that can be a sign of both anxiety and depression. 06:13 >>John: But you're not saying one of those means 06:15 you have depression. You're saying there's nine points; 06:17 if you have five, that qualifies you. 06:19 >>Dr. Nedley: Correct. >>John: So I don't want anyone 06:20 to think because they can't focus on a page, that means 06:24 too much, but it might. >>Dr. Nedley: It might. 06:26 >>John: Yeah. >>Dr. Nedley: It might, yeah. 06:27 >>John: Taken together with other-- 06:28 >>Dr. Nedley: Yeah. >>John: ...things. 06:29 We're going to get to the cure, if you like, 06:31 the treatment for depression 06:33 in a moment, but I wanna-- >>Dr. Nedley: Sure. 06:34 >>John: ...ask you this. See, we, we, we've spoken 06:36 about this before. Ten years ago we talked about this. 06:38 >>Dr. Nedley: Right. 06:39 >>John: And society has known for decades 06:41 we have a great problem in this area. 06:43 What's happened in the last 10 years 06:45 in terms of depression and anxiety? 06:47 >>Dr. Nedley: The rates have gone up astronomically 06:50 in the last 10 years. 06:51 And, you know, what has also shifted is depression used to be 06:56 the older you get, the more likely you're going to get it. 06:59 And now we're seeing this big peak among young people, 07:03 adolescents, uh, teenagers, even pre-teenagers, 07:07 and particularly those in their 20s-- 07:10 off the charts in regards to depression and anxiety levels. 07:14 And that's changed over the last 10 years. 07:16 >>John: And why is that? 07:17 >>Dr. Nedley: The reason is actually the smartphone usage. 07:22 Uh, it wasn't till about 10 or 11 years ago 07:26 that about half of Americans owned a smartphone. 07:29 And now that smartphone is actually able to distract them 07:35 very easily. And when we are driven to distraction, 07:40 it actually decreases an area of our frontal lobe 07:43 that is precisely the area that's needed 07:45 for managing distressing emotions. 07:49 And so, it's not the smartphone itself, per se, 07:52 but the normal use of the smartphone 07:55 where we're allowing ourself to get distracted by Snapchats, 07:59 texts, push notifications, and even when we get on there 08:04 to do something, we forget why we got on there to do something, 08:08 and we immediately see a text or an email or things like that, 08:12 and that division of attention actually causes 08:16 biochemical, uh, consequences in the brain, 08:20 and those biochemical consequences increase 08:24 the rates of depression and anxiety. 08:25 >>John: So, in recent years it has become much worse. 08:28 In recent years it's affecting far greater numbers 08:32 of younger people. Okay. 08:34 We're going to talk about what a person can do 08:36 about depression and anxiety. 08:40 My guest is Dr. Neil Nedley, president of Nedley Health. 08:43 In just a moment we will talk 08:45 about what a person can actually do. 08:48 Dr. Nedley said a moment ago 08:50 there is successful treatment for depression and anxiety. 08:54 We'll find out what that is straight ahead. 08:57 ♪[upbeat music swells and ends]♪♪ 09:06 >>Announcer: With economic instability, 09:07 interpersonal challenges, and the use of social media 09:10 on the rise, rates of depression and anxiety have skyrocketed. 09:14 Call now for your free copy 09:17 of "Finding Lasting Healing for Depression and Anxiety" 09:20 and learn helpful and practical methods 09:23 that have been scientifically proven to benefit mental health. 09:26 Call 800-253-3000. 09:28 That's 800-253-3000. 09:31 Or visit us online at iiwoffer.com. 09:36 >>John Bradshaw: Welcome back to "It Is Written." 09:38 Thanks so much for joining me. I'm John Bradshaw. 09:40 With me, my guest is Dr. Neil Nedley, 09:42 the president of Nedley Health. 09:44 Dr. Nedley, you--we're about to start talking about 09:48 successful treatment for depression. 09:50 Give us a little background here. 09:51 I said for a quarter of a century now 09:53 you've been successfully treating patients. 09:55 >>Dr. Neil Nedley: Correct. >>John: Uh, give me a, 09:57 just a very quick overview. 09:59 What do you see walk in the door? What do you see walk out? 10:04 Once we help people understand what the, the reality is 10:08 of successful treatment, then we'll talk about the treatment. 10:10 >>Dr. Nedley: Okay. So, what we see typically walk in the door 10:13 is someone who is severely depressed 10:17 and also thinking about ending their life. 10:19 At least most of them now that see us 10:22 think that they would be better off dead. 10:25 And they're actually convinced of that, uh, 10:27 when they come to the program. 10:28 It's affected their family life. It's affected their work life. 10:32 It's affected their feelings about themselves. 10:35 Uh, and it has also, uh, caused them to even think 10:40 that they're worthless or that they're of no value. 10:43 And so, uh, that is more of the typical. 10:46 Of course, there can be a lot of varieties, um, concerning that. 10:49 Uh, but on top of it, they'll also have anxiety. 10:53 They'll have social anxiety, 10:54 which is more of our typical patient now. 10:57 Uh, they don't really want to interact with people-- 11:01 fear of embarrassment, 11:02 uh, fear of being exposed in some way, shape, or form, 11:06 fear of being judged. 11:08 And so, uh, this is our, um, our typical patient 11:11 that comes in. And of course, they're pretty reticent because 11:14 they're in a new setting, and this has been, you know, 11:16 a big, big challenge for them to even come to the program. 11:20 And on day three, they're not sure 11:23 that they've actually made the right decision 11:26 because it takes time for the therapies 11:29 to actually start changing the brain. 11:31 By day four, they're actually starting to feel better. 11:35 By day seven, it's pretty amazing the difference. 11:39 And by day 10, when they're walking out the door, they say, 11:42 "I don't even really realize who that person was. 11:46 I'm so different now." 11:47 They are motivated. They're self-motivated. 11:51 They're actually sleeping better. 11:53 They're able to interact with people that they don't know, 11:56 uh, and not have that anxiety and fear of judgment. 12:00 They realize that they're a valuable human being, 12:04 and they realize that they have much that they can give 12:06 to their families and, and their work and the world around them. 12:11 And so, depression scale goes from severe, on average, 12:15 to no depression when they're leaving. 12:17 That doesn't mean it's solved. 12:18 They still have to continue to do the things 12:21 that made them better in the program, 12:23 and then they'll even get better yet, uh, two weeks 12:28 after they're in their home environment. 12:30 Some of them get fearful because they say, "I got better here. 12:33 "Now I'm going home, where I was really bad, 12:35 and I'm getting backed into the same place." 12:38 But actually, as they utilize the tools that we've given them, 12:42 they'll actually feel better two weeks after being home 12:45 than the day they left the program. 12:46 >>John: See, this sounds, this sounds miraculous, 12:50 [Dr. Nedley chuckles] like, like people are being reborn. 12:52 But this is what God wants for a person's life. 12:54 And I, I think, as we talk about depression, 12:57 it's really important to point out that depression 13:00 isn't something that the average person can just get over-- 13:03 "Why don't you pull yourself together?" 13:05 >>Dr. Nedley: Right. 13:06 >>John: This is-- depression's a monster. 13:08 And it absolutely disables people. Okay. 13:12 Let's talk about the successful treatment. What works? 13:18 And I want you to share with me what works scientifically-- 13:21 >>Dr. Nedley: Sure. >>John: ...and verifiably. 13:23 >>Dr. Nedley: Okay. >>John: Okay, so, 13:24 what really helps? 13:26 >>Dr. Nedley: It's actually a combination 13:27 of a number of simple factors we've put together. 13:30 >>John: Simple factors? >>Dr. Nedley: Simple factors, 13:32 like drinking more water. 13:33 >>John: We're talking about...an absolutely disabling condition-- 13:38 >>Dr. Nedley: Right. 13:40 >>John: ...where the people suffering from this-- 13:41 >>Dr. Nedley: Yes. 13:42 >>John: ...believe in their hearts that the world would be 13:44 a better place without them? >>Dr. Nedley: Right. 13:46 >>John: And you're starting with drink more water? 13:49 >>Dr. Nedley: Drink more water. >>John: Okay, okay. 13:51 I don't want to hear too much more about the treatment. 13:52 [Dr. Nedley chuckles] Take, take 20 or 30 seconds 13:54 and tell me why does that kind of simple thing help. 13:59 What, what's going on in a life 14:01 that something like that could even make a difference? 14:04 >>Dr. Nedley: Well, our brain cells work better 14:06 when they're hydrated. And nothing hydrates like water. 14:10 All the other water substitutes actually take away 14:13 from the hydration of our neurons 14:15 and our ability to have good synaptic activity. 14:18 >>John: Okay. >>Dr. Nedley: And so, 14:19 studies have shown, actually, 14:21 if we just take someone from less than two glasses of water 14:24 per day, which the typical person has, 14:27 to greater than five glasses of water a day, 14:30 their rates of depression and anxiety will actually start 14:33 to improve within a week of that treatment. 14:36 >>John: So what else is effective in the treatment 14:39 of depression and anxiety? Simple things. 14:41 >>Dr. Nedley: Becoming physically fit. 14:43 Physical fitness is actually better for our brain 14:46 than it is our body. 14:48 And cardio exercises actually improve a protein level 14:53 in our brain called brain- derived neurotrophic factor. 14:57 It's kind of a brain fertilizer, 14:59 and it helps the brain get ready for positive changes. 15:02 So, there are some people that are fit 15:05 that come to our program. 15:06 Their causes are different, but most people that come 15:09 are not at the fitness level they should be at, 15:12 and that's why we have fitness experts, and in 10 days, 15:16 and they're going to actually show 15:17 measurable fitness improvement in their cardio 15:21 and a lot of different parameters. 15:23 And that will mirror very much, uh, 15:25 their success during the program. 15:27 >>John: Give me another one, 15:28 and then something I want to run by you. 15:31 >>Dr. Nedley: So, another one is actually light--light therapy. 15:35 So we utilize light in the morning. 15:39 Actually we have them wake up at the same time every morning, 15:43 and then they're exposed to a bright light that actually sets 15:49 their body clock, their circadian rhythm, 15:51 and it also starts the production of serotonin 15:55 in the brain. And those two factors are very important. 15:59 It's going to improve their energy level 16:00 throughout the day, and it's going to improve their ability 16:04 to go to sleep at night. 16:06 In fact, that's one of the best sleep aids, 16:08 is a light therapy box utilized upon awakening in the morning. 16:14 So, they're only exposed to it for about 30 minutes. 16:16 Then we get 'em out and exercise. 16:19 And those simple treatments of hydration, physical exercise, 16:23 and light therapy start the process. 16:26 >>John: You said "simple treatments." 16:28 They are profoundly simple. [Dr. Nedley chuckles] 16:30 It, it seems that what you're doing is actually treating 16:35 the causes of depression-- 16:38 not enough activity, not enough water, 16:40 not enough light. >>Dr. Nedley: Yes. 16:41 >>John: You're, you're actually taking us down 16:42 to the granular level in treating the very things 16:45 that cause depression. >>Dr. Nedley: Exactly. 16:47 >>John: That's not how depression is typically treated. 16:48 It's typically treated-- 16:49 well, we have a range of possible medications. 16:52 "We'll try this one; come back in a, in a week or two 16:55 or whatever, and maybe we'll change your medication." 16:57 >>Dr. Nedley: Mm-hmm. >>John: As a society, 16:59 we're really stuck on medication, 17:00 as though it's the solution for everything. 17:04 How in the world do we change our thinking? 17:08 >>Dr. Nedley: Well, we have to educate the public that 17:10 it's not just a lack of medicine that's causing depression. 17:14 Uh, it's actually the lack of good brain biochemistry 17:19 that has to do with things like nutrition, 17:22 what we're putting into our body, 17:23 and what we're doing with our body. 17:25 >>John: What do some of the medications actually do 17:27 to the brain? 17:28 >>Dr. Nedley: So, how the typical antidepressant works, 17:33 it's not helping the brain to produce 17:35 more of a neurotransmitter, nor is it helping the receptors. 17:39 When we get to the root cause, we're going to actually help 17:43 the brain produce more of the neurotransmitter, 17:46 and we're going to be helping at the receptor level 17:48 so that the synaptic activity goes up. 17:51 How the drugs work is that they actually plug 17:55 the reuptake channels in the releasing neuron 18:00 of the substance they're trying to treat. 18:01 So, if they're wanting to have 18:03 more serotonin synaptic activity, 18:06 they plug the serotonin reuptake channels. 18:09 And that allows more serotonin in the synapse. 18:12 The problem with it is now we have to make even more serotonin 18:17 because that serotonin's not being vacuumed 18:19 back up into the brain. 18:20 And so it produces a short-term benefit--by "short-term," 18:23 maybe six months, nine months--and after that, 18:27 now the brain is even shorter in serotonin than it was 18:31 before you started to use the drug, and now you're needing 18:34 dosage increases; you're needing additional medicines; 18:37 you're needing a number of other factors to try to help 18:41 the neuron of its even more severe depletion of serotonin. 18:46 >>John: Simple treatments that work, 18:48 a complex, challenging diagnosis, 18:50 but simple treatments given by God 18:53 that make all the difference. 18:55 More on depression with Dr. Neil Nedley in just a moment. 18:59 ♪[upbeat music swells and ends]♪♪ 19:07 >>John: Thank you for remembering that It Is Written 19:09 exists because of the kindness of people just like you. 19:12 To support this international life-changing ministry, 19:16 please call us now at 800-253-3000. 19:20 You can send your tax-deductible gift 19:21 to the address on your screen, 19:23 or you can visit us online at itiswritten.com. 19:27 Thank you for your prayers and for your financial support. 19:29 Our number again is 800-253-3000, 19:34 or you can visit us online at itiswritten.com. 19:37 >>John: Most everybody wants to live a little longer, 19:41 a little healthier, and a little happier, 19:44 but the question is, how can you experience that life? 19:48 Jesus said that He came into the world 19:50 that we might have life more abundantly. 19:54 Evidently, it's what God wants us to have. 19:57 So, don't miss "Life and Longevity" 20:00 with special guest Dr. David DeRose. 20:04 We uncover simple secrets of the Bible, attainable secrets, 20:08 the things that God presents to us that are guaranteed 20:12 to enhance our lives and at the same time 20:15 open up our hearts and minds 20:17 to receive more of the Holy Spirit of God. 20:21 "Life and Longevity," Bible secrets to living 20:24 the abundant life that God wants you to have. 20:28 Featuring special guest Dr. David DeRose, 20:32 "Life and Longevity" on It Is Written TV. 20:35 ♪[upbeat music]♪♪ 20:38 >>John: Thanks for joining me on "It Is Written." 20:40 My guest is Dr. Neil Nedley, who for a quarter of a century 20:44 has been successfully treating people with depression 20:47 and anxiety, in many cases extreme depression and anxiety. 20:53 You've had a great deal of success with this? 20:55 >>Dr. Nedley: Yes. 20:56 >>John: We're talking about 20:57 simple treatments. >>Dr. Nedley: Mm-hmm. 20:59 >>John: I mean, very simple treatments. Let me ask you this. 21:01 When it comes to, uh, depression, 21:04 what role does nutrition play? 21:06 Well, what role does nutrition play in the treatment? 21:10 >>Dr. Nedley: It plays a major role. 21:11 In fact, it is well documented now that nutritional medicine 21:17 is one of the best therapies for depression and anxiety-- 21:21 and directed nutritional supplements to actually help 21:25 the individual with the genetic challenges 21:27 that they might have as well. 21:29 >>John: Okay, so what would that look like? 21:30 >>Dr. Nedley: For instance, uh, taking a S-adenosylmethionine 21:36 to help the person methylate and be able to make 21:39 more serotonin and dopamine in their brain. 21:41 >>John: Okay. 21:42 >>Dr. Nedley: If they have a genetic defect, 21:44 they're going to have certain personality traits 21:46 that go along with that defect, 21:48 like a calm exterior and a tense interior, 21:51 tendencies for obsessions, tendencies for addictions, 21:56 and actually being highly competitive. 21:59 Often it's the attorneys or even the sports heroes 22:02 that suffer from mental health issues, and they just need 22:06 more methionine or S-adenosylmethionine 22:10 to help them methylate better. That's a nutritional therapy. 22:14 That is something that's natural; 22:15 it's not something you can get in a pharmaceutical agent 22:18 because the trademark organization won't allow 22:22 something natural to be trademarked. 22:24 It has to be unnatural in order to get it trademarked. 22:28 And so, natural therapies often are superior. 22:31 >>John: Diet--you mentioned nutrition--what about diet? 22:33 What, what am I eating that's helping me 22:36 or mitigating against good mental health? 22:40 >>Dr. Nedley: Yeah, exactly. So, we need to get 22:42 tryptophan in your diet in order to make serotonin. 22:45 And we need to get the tryptophan into the brain. 22:48 So, we don't just give IV serotonin 22:50 because serotonin won't even be picked up by the brain. 22:53 The blood-brain barrier prevents it from going across. 22:56 So we need to get the tryptophan, 22:58 even that's too large to get into the brain, 23:00 so we have to have it with specific carriers. 23:03 And it turns out the best carriers are foods 23:06 that have tryptophan and natural carbohydrates in them. 23:10 And those are going to be more of your plant-based foods. 23:13 One of the reasons why a plant-based diet 23:15 has been shown to be superior to other diets, 23:19 improving depression and anxiety in as little as two weeks, 23:23 once we shift over to a, a highly antioxidant diet 23:28 that has adequate tryptophan and tyrosine 23:30 to make the neurotransmitters we need. 23:32 >>John: So, you can eat certain foods 23:34 that are going to help you. >>Dr. Nedley: Exactly. 23:35 >>John: Generally speaking, they're more plant-based. 23:37 >>Dr. Nedley: Correct. >>John: Okay, okay. 23:39 You mentioned genetics a moment ago. 23:41 I want to ask you about this. 23:43 Are some people genetically predisposed to depression? 23:47 Is that the case? And-- >>Dr. Nedley: Oh, absolutely. 23:48 >>John: Well, if so, what do you do about that 23:49 if it's your genes? >>Dr. Nedley: Well, fortunately, 23:52 we can shut down those bad genes. 23:55 And so, when people come to our program, we measure 23:58 their genetics--and we also measure their epigenetics-- 24:02 to see if that gene is active or not. 24:04 And fortunately, it's not medication, 24:07 but it's natural therapies 24:09 that can actually deactivate that gene. 24:12 And then we can actually measure the before-and-after results. 24:15 We can see that the gene was very active to start out with, 24:18 and within a few weeks, we remeasure. 24:21 One of the reason why we do follow-up on our patients 24:23 after they get back is we're actually doing 24:25 follow-up blood work to show that 24:27 that gene has been deactivated. 24:29 Or if it hasn't, there might be some other therapies 24:31 that we can put into the equation that are simple, 24:34 side effect free, 24:36 that'll actually shut down that mutated gene. 24:38 >>John: Thank God there are 24:39 simple solutions. >>Dr. Nedley: Yes. 24:41 >>John: Appreciate what you are doing. 24:44 What I'm hearing as I listen between the lines 24:46 is, is you're following a very, a simple-- 24:50 I don't mean in a derogatory way-- 24:52 very biblical plan because God wants us 24:55 to have a sound mind. >>Dr. Nedley: Mm-hmm. 24:57 >>John: Can anyone have that sound mind that God is offering? 25:01 >>Dr. Nedley: Absolutely-- >>John: Yeah. 25:02 >>Dr. Nedley: ...absolutely, we, we, the design of our brain 25:06 is tremendous because of its ability to change itself. 25:12 It can dramatically improve under the right conditions. 25:15 And that brain can not only learn new things; 25:18 it can start making better neurotransmitters. 25:21 It can have better receptors. 25:23 It can have much more fulfillment and success. 25:27 Our brains are capable of amazing things 25:30 if we just foster 'em in the right way. 25:33 >>John: There's one thing I would like you to remember. 25:34 That's this; the Bible says, 25:36 "Thou wilt"--speaking about God-- 25:38 "Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, 25:41 whose mind is stayed on Thee: because he trusteth in Thee." 25:43 You read that in Isaiah 26:3. 25:46 "Perfect peace." >>Dr. Nedley: Mmm. 25:47 >>John: The Bible says, "Let this mind be in you, 25:50 which was also in Christ Jesus," 25:52 speaking certainly of an attitude, an approach, 25:54 a humility, but definitely speaking about a mind. 25:58 When we look, Dr. Nedley, at earth's last great crisis, 26:02 it's a battle for the mind. >>Dr. Nedley: Absolutely. 26:04 >>John: Mark of the beast, the seal of God, 26:06 affixed to the minds of those who receive them. 26:11 I think there are good days ahead. 26:12 There's reason for every last person to be hopeful. 26:14 >>Dr. Nedley: Absolutely. 26:15 >>John: I appreciate you sharing that hope. Thanks so much. 26:17 >>Dr. Nedley: Thank you. 26:18 >>Announcer: With economic instability, 26:20 interpersonal challenges, and the use of social media 26:23 on the rise, rates of depression and anxiety have skyrocketed. 26:27 Call now for your free copy 26:30 of "Finding Lasting Healing for Depression and Anxiety" 26:33 and learn helpful and practical methods 26:35 that have been scientifically proven to benefit mental health. 26:38 Call 800-253-3000. 26:41 That's 800-253-3000. 26:44 Or visit us online at iiwoffer.com. 26:49 >>John: Let's pray together now. 26:50 ♪[soft music]♪ 26:51 Our Father in heaven, 26:52 we thank You that Jesus is the Prince of Peace. 26:57 Anxiety and depression are not Your plan for our lives. 27:01 We find no fault with people who find themselves there; 27:05 instead, our hearts beat in harmony 27:07 and in sympathy with them, 27:09 asking that You, Lord, the Great Physician, 27:12 would deliver everyone looking for deliverance, 27:14 would strengthen everyone looking for strength, 27:17 that You would encourage and uphold every last person 27:20 and deliver to each one a sound mind, a transformed life, 27:25 a new experience. 27:26 We thank You for salvation in Jesus, 27:29 and we thank You that through Jesus 27:31 we might have joy on this earth. 27:34 We thank You, and our hope is strong in the return of Jesus. 27:38 We pray with John, who wrote Revelation, 27:40 "Even so, come, Lord Jesus." 27:42 This is our prayer. In Jesus' name. 27:47 Amen. 27:48 Thank you so much for joining me. 27:49 I'm looking forward to seeing you again next time. 27:51 Until then, remember: 27:53 "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, 27:57 but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'" 28:02 ♪[dramatic, triumphant theme music]♪ 28:26 ♪[music ends]♪♪ |
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