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00:03 >> So what is your dream? 00:05 >> How much is your dream going 00:07 to cost you? 00:09 >> How much time, energy, and 00:11 money are you prepared to pay to 00:13 make your dream come true? 00:15 >> You know, Jesus paid the 00:17 supreme price for His dream. 00:19 >> Yes, it cost Him His life. 00:22 >> In Ephesians chapter 5 verse 00:24 2, the apostle Paul encourages 00:25 us to "walk in love as Christ 00:28 also has loved us and given 00:31 Himself for us, an offering and 00:33 a sacrifice to God." 00:35 >> It was His deep love for you 00:37 that compelled Jesus to pay the 00:39 supreme price so that He can 00:41 live with you in heaven 00:43 eternally. 00:45 >> And one day, Jesus will 00:46 return because He is looking 00:47 forward to seeing His dream come 00:49 true. 00:51 >> He's looking forward to 00:52 seeing you! And we want to 00:53 challenge you today: accept 00:56 Jesus' dream for you and make 00:58 His dream your dream. 01:01 >> When Jesus comes, we want you 01:03 to be able to declare the words 01:05 that are found in Isaiah chapter 01:07 25 verse 9 which says, "Behold, 01:08 this is our God; we have waited 01:11 for Him and He will save us. 01:13 This is the Lord, we have waited 01:16 for Him. We will be glad and 01:18 rejoice in His salvation." That 01:21 will be the ultimate dream come 01:24 true. 01:25 >> Our guest, Dr. David Sloan, 01:27 is back with us to share the 01:29 rest of his testimony of how he 01:31 experienced God's deep love for 01:33 him and how God's dream for his 01:37 life became his dream, too. 01:39 >> So we will be right back to 01:41 let him share the second part of 01:43 his miraculous story of how his 01:45 life was transformed by the 01:47 power of God. 01:51 ♪♪♪ 02:14 >> Hello and welcome and thank 02:16 you for joining us on It Is 02:17 Written Canada. Last week we 02:19 were talking to Dr. David Sloan 02:22 and he was sharing a miraculous, 02:25 amazing conversion experience 02:27 that he had. And sometimes we 02:30 want those experiences to be 02:31 just an instant thing, that 02:33 everything changes 02:35 automatically. And he was 02:37 telling us about how he grew up 02:39 in a pastor's home and how he 02:41 had drifted away from the Lord 02:44 and how the music industry had a 02:45 real tight hold upon him. And 02:48 so, Dr. Sloan, we thank you for 02:50 joining us and you have your 02:51 lovely wife, Erika, here with us 02:53 and we're going to be talking to 02:54 you a little bit later in the 02:56 journey as we go along with 02:58 this, Erika. So, Dr. Sloan, you 03:00 shared about how the music 03:03 industry had -- you had been 03:05 successful and how it kind of 03:07 pulled you away from God and you 03:09 had forgotten about God. 03:11 Although He hadn't forgotten 03:12 about you, He sent someone to 03:14 talk to you, miraculously, and 03:16 you looked for a sign because 03:18 you wanted to know, hey, is this 03:19 for real? And God gave you that 03:21 sign and spoke to you and there 03:24 was a great conversion that 03:25 happened in your life and you 03:27 surrendered your life to the 03:28 Lord. You had some obstacles 03:29 along the way though -- 03:30 objections: should I do this and 03:34 if I give my heart to the Lord, 03:36 maybe He's going to pull me out 03:38 of everything I know and how am 03:41 I going to go forward with 03:42 that? And your friend assured 03:43 you, just surrender to the Lord 03:45 and He will help you. And He 03:47 opened your eyes and now you're 03:49 going to continue telling us 03:51 about what you went through at 03:52 that point. So would you like to 03:54 share -- 03:55 >> Well, you know, I could 03:57 gradually see that the work that 04:00 I was doing was really not 04:02 furthering God's work in this 04:04 world. The question was, as you 04:07 said, is the hold that this had 04:10 on me and the, sort of, question 04:13 about where would I go, you 04:16 know. But what really turned 04:18 things around was -- I was with 04:21 the show band and we were 04:23 performing in Montreal and then 04:25 we were to then perform in the 04:28 eastern provinces, I think it 04:29 was New Brunswick. And I had 04:31 lent my van in order for them to 04:33 be able to carry the equipment 04:35 and so at the end, Saturday 04:38 night, when we were all 04:41 finished, they all took off and 04:42 said, "We'll see you in New 04:43 Brunswick." And I was left to 04:44 myself to bring all the 04:47 equipment; late at night, 04:49 driving through the night, 04:50 through, you know... So packed 04:55 up everything and I got in and 04:57 started driving and this was May 05:00 or June and here I am, driving 05:03 in the mountains -- they're not 05:04 mountains like western Canada, 05:06 but they're fairly large, sort 05:09 of hilly areas, and I was 05:11 driving through that and all of 05:13 a sudden, a freak snow storm. 05:14 May or June. And my van at the 05:20 time had bald tires and it was 05:22 stacked with equipment so high 05:26 centre of gravity and I was 05:29 going down a hill, a very steep 05:33 hill, and I started to lose 05:35 control. I could feel the van 05:38 going. And I was looking ahead 05:41 and all I could see was a steep 05:43 cliff and as I was going the van 05:46 just -- because there was no 05:48 traction it just turned right 05:50 around and I knew I was going 05:52 over the cliff. There was no 05:54 question in my mind, I thought, 05:56 "This is it, this is the end of 05:58 my life." And so as it came 06:02 around, it all of a sudden felt 06:05 like I'd hit a pole or a post or 06:07 something because it just 06:08 crunched to a stop. And I was 06:11 shaking like a leaf, I could 06:14 barely -- you know how when 06:15 you're so -- you could hardly -- 06:17 >> The adrenaline is rushing. 06:17 Yeah. 06:19 >> I could hardly even walk I 06:20 was shaking so much, but I got 06:21 out and I went to the back to 06:24 look for that pole or post or 06:26 whatever that stopped me, and 06:28 there was nothing there. 06:30 Absolutely nothing there. And, 06:32 you know, it hit me so hard, I 06:35 realized, you know, Satan was 06:37 bent on destroying me because I 06:40 was planning to leave the music 06:43 business, that was in my heart. 06:45 He had no more use for me, he 06:47 was going to destroy me and that 06:48 God sent a mighty angel to stand 06:50 and stop that van from going 06:52 over that cliff. I was so 06:54 absolutely convinced of that. I 06:57 got back in the van, I sobbed 07:00 for what seemed like a long, 07:02 long, long time, I was just -- 07:04 and I said, "Lord, I am going to 07:07 leave this business now." So I 07:11 made my way slowly back to a 07:13 motel and I got down on my knees 07:15 and I told the Lord, "I'm 07:17 leaving, and I'm leaving this up 07:19 to you, Lord, you show me the 07:21 way that I need to go, but I", 07:24 you know, "I'm leaving and I'm 07:27 not going to come back." So when 07:29 I got to New Brunswick the next 07:31 day, I told the band leader that 07:33 I was, you know, going to be 07:36 quitting the band from then on. 07:40 But now what was going on was I 07:45 was having severe health issues 07:48 and for a period of time through 07:51 my life, I was very sick, I was 07:53 a sickly child, I had a lot of 07:55 respiratory disorders and 07:57 allergies and things like that. 08:00 And so I was OK for a little 08:03 while, but then getting in the 08:05 band and being on the road and 08:06 the kind of diet that we were on 08:09 and the lifestyle and, you know, 08:11 the hard living that we did, it 08:15 took its toll. And I was pretty 08:18 much in every emergency room in 08:21 most of the cities and towns 08:23 across Ontario and Canada just 08:26 to get help. I can say this: I 08:29 never missed one night of 08:30 performance, but some nights 08:32 were pretty shaky. And so one 08:37 night we were playing in 08:39 Toronto, as a matter of fact we 08:40 had a bunch of friends out and 08:42 one of my doctor friends 08:44 introduced a chiropractor to me 08:46 who was studying to be a 08:48 naturopath and I said to this 08:54 particular doctor, I said, "You 08:57 know, I know I'm not well. I've 09:00 been to my family doctor, he's 09:02 given me a clean bill of health, 09:05 I've had the blood work and 09:06 checked me over, but I know I'm 09:07 not well." And he said, "Well", 09:10 you know, "come into my office 09:12 and I'll give you a checkup." 09:15 And so I did that and after he 09:18 had spent a couple of hours of 09:21 thoroughly going over 09:22 everything, we sat down at his 09:25 desk and he said, "Well, 09:28 basically, I figure you have 09:30 about two years to live." And as 09:37 I was thinking in my mind as he 09:39 said this, you know, I've just 09:40 been married to my dear wife for 09:44 about a year, how am I going to 09:46 explain this to her? Here I've 09:48 just married this man and now I 09:50 have to prepare for his funeral. 09:53 And so I said, you know, "I knew 09:57 I wasn't well, but I didn't 09:59 think I was that bad." He says, 10:01 "Well, your whole system is 10:04 basically shutting down. All 10:05 your major systems: your immune 10:07 system, your gastrointestinal, 10:08 digestive, respiratory, 10:11 elimination, all of these 10:13 different areas, cardiovascular, 10:16 as well, are being so gravely 10:21 affected by", you know, "what 10:24 you've been going through in the 10:26 last two or three years, you 10:28 really don't have much left." 10:30 And I said, "Well, certainly 10:32 there's got to be some hope." He 10:34 says, "Yes, there is hope. But 10:36 this is what you have to do." He 10:38 says, "You need to change your 10:40 diet, you need to change your 10:41 lifestyle and I'm going to give 10:42 you some natural medicine." So I 10:46 said, "So exactly what things do 10:49 I need to change then?" He says, 10:51 "Well, your diet you need to 10:52 change to be a total vegetarian 10:55 or a vegan." And you've got to 10:58 understand that, you know, I was 11:00 -- junk food, high-sugar, 11:03 high-fat, meat, potatoes, 11:05 things, you know, type of diet. 11:09 But really, when you're faced 11:12 with that kind of a thing, what 11:14 choice do you have? And I 11:16 remember Erika asking me when I 11:20 went through the list of things 11:22 I couldn't eat, she says, "Well, 11:23 is there anything left that you 11:25 can eat?" (chuckles) And, you 11:29 know, it was pretty basic in 11:31 those early days. So that was 11:32 the diet part of things, the 11:35 lifestyle thing was, you know, 11:37 you've got to get into a 11:39 healthier environment. You know 11:41 the bars, smoke and, you know, 11:43 in those days there was no 11:45 filters, it was completely -- 11:46 and people smoked inside as well 11:49 as outside. And the herbs that 11:52 he recommended were two herbs: 11:53 myrrh and slippery elm which 11:55 are, you know, known very well 11:58 today to have very wonderful 12:01 properties in helping to heal 12:03 inflammation and antioxidant 12:06 properties to help heal cells. 12:08 So I had started in on that 12:13 pretty much right away. I mean, 12:15 with a death sentence like that, 12:17 I just felt that I have to give 12:20 it all I've got and I did. And 12:22 my wife can testify to that fact 12:24 that I went from what I was in 12:27 one day to being a total 12:29 vegetarian the next. And here we 12:32 were grappling with this kind of 12:34 a change. 12:36 >> So, Erika, this is where your 12:37 journey starts because obviously 12:40 you knew that your husband 12:42 wasn't healthy and he wasn't 12:44 doing well and then he comes 12:46 with this prescription: we need 12:47 to change our diet. So how did 12:51 your journey start with that? 12:54 >> Well, it was quite a shock 12:56 for sure. And of course we knew 12:57 no one else who was a vegetarian 12:59 at the time. There wasn't 13:02 internet to go on and get 13:03 recipes. There wasn't even like 13:07 soy milk or other dairy-free 13:09 choices like there are today, it 13:11 was totally different back then 13:13 in the 70s. So it was a 13:14 challenge. It was a real 13:16 learning experience for both of 13:17 us. 13:20 >> The good news is is that I'm 13:21 still here today and that's 13:23 40-odd years later. And God has 13:28 blessed us with amazing -- this 13:31 journey has just been absolutely 13:33 amazing. 13:35 >> So in changing, what really 13:37 helped you to find some recipes 13:40 to find a new direction in terms 13:44 of -- I mean, once you change 13:46 your health, could you see that 13:48 God was working through this? 13:49 Did He help you to find recipes 13:54 and help people -- I guess find 13:56 a community of people who would 13:57 support you? 13:59 >> Yeah. And this is again 14:01 unmistakably how God led in our 14:03 lives. And we heard of a 14:07 vegetarian restaurant that was 14:09 in Port Dover, which was not too 14:11 far from where we were living. 14:14 And we jumped at the opportunity 14:15 to go because, you know, eating 14:17 baked potatoes and a few cooked 14:20 vegetables and salad every day 14:22 was starting to get a little bit 14:23 old. And so we went to this 14:26 vegetarian restaurant which was 14:28 only open for a couple months 14:29 and then it closed so we 14:32 happened to just get there 14:32 probably before it was closing. 14:35 And it just happened that while 14:38 we were there, there was a young 14:39 gentleman who was sharing some 14:41 pictures with the two owners of 14:44 this vegetarian restaurant. And 14:47 we were kind of curious, I was 14:49 helping my father-in-law in 14:50 photography at the time and 14:51 Erika and I were doing weddings 14:52 and things like that so we just 14:55 kind of, you know, were looking 14:57 over and before you know it we 14:58 were over there sitting with 15:00 them looking at these pictures. 15:02 And so this fellow, his name is 15:05 Jerry, he was relating to us an 15:10 amazing conversion experience 15:12 that he had. And he said -- I 15:13 said to him, "Well, that is 15:15 absolutely an amazing story." 15:17 And I share a little bit about 15:18 my conversion experience and 15:20 then the fact that we were drawn 15:21 to, you know, for health reasons 15:24 this diet that we were given. 15:29 And he said, "Well, I have a 15:31 book that was written in the 15:33 1800's that talks about this 15:35 very thing that you're doing and 15:38 the research", you know, "that's 15:40 come many, many, many years 15:42 later is proving all that she 15:43 said is true." And at the time, 15:46 I was starting to study in 15:48 natural medicine and nutrition 15:50 and he said, "You should read 15:52 this book." So sure enough, he 15:55 made sure I got that book. He 15:57 dropped it off and I started 15:58 reading it. It was called 15:59 Counsels on Diet and Foods by 16:01 Ellen G. White. So one thing led 16:06 to another as I read through 16:07 this book, I was becoming more 16:09 and more convicted that God 16:11 really had a health message. Not 16:14 only did He have, you know, the 16:17 blueprint, the map, you know, or 16:20 the guide for the way we could 16:24 live in the Bible, but He also 16:25 had a health message in the 16:27 Bible. And so we had started to 16:29 discover that what we were doing 16:31 was very closely connected to 16:33 what God wanted us to do and all 16:35 tied in with this whole, you 16:38 know, inviting Jesus into my 16:40 life and here all of this was 16:43 unfolding. And so Erika and I 16:47 began to become more and more 16:52 aware of this and I got together 16:58 with Jerry on occasions. He 17:00 actually opened a bake shop in 17:02 Port Dover and I, being out of 17:04 the music business and not 17:05 having a whole lot to do, I 17:09 offered to help him. And so 17:11 while we were there we would 17:12 listen to Christian tapes on, 17:16 you know, different Bible topics 17:18 and I was getting all this, you 17:20 know, coming at me and was 17:24 sharing a little bit with Erika 17:25 and eventually we became -- and 17:31 I should say, before that we 17:32 studied with a number of 17:34 different churches and searching 17:36 and -- my feeling is is that 17:39 when we changed our diet, that 17:42 that's what cleared our minds to 17:44 be able to see more clearly 17:48 spiritually. And spiritually, we 17:50 started to understand. And this 17:52 is something that I share with 17:53 many people is that, when you 17:55 change your diet to a 17:57 vegetarian, a vegan diet, all of 18:00 a sudden you find that you are 18:02 more spiritually aware, that you 18:04 discern things much more 18:06 spiritually and that God can 18:09 actually communicate with you 18:11 better on a spiritual level. So 18:14 long story short, God was 18:17 unerringly leading us to the 18:20 Seventh-day Adventist Church. 18:22 Through many other churches and 18:25 studies and so on, it was an 18:28 amazing journey in itself how we 18:30 were led to this church. And we 18:32 felt that this church spoke the 18:34 truth to us, that this was a 18:36 church that had the truth, that 18:39 if there was anything that 18:41 coincided clearly with what the 18:44 Bible said in all aspects of 18:46 life, was the Seventh-day 18:48 Adventist Church. 18:50 >> So, Dr. Sloan, you 18:52 mentioned that you were studying 18:54 natural medicine. How did you 18:55 get into natural medicine? 18:58 >> Well, you know, I got such 19:01 amazing results in my own health 19:05 that I thought -- and of course 19:06 this is with all-natural 19:07 remedies -- I thought that if 19:10 this can help me so much, how 19:12 many other people can be helped? 19:14 And I really feel that God 19:16 inspired me by that. I went 19:21 thinking, "Well, maybe I should 19:22 open a health food store." And 19:24 we tried on several attempts and 19:26 the Lord shut the door on those. 19:29 And I remember we were visiting 19:31 relatives in Europe, Erika's 19:34 side of the family, and on the 19:36 plane, again I broke down and I 19:38 prayed, "Lord, I cannot get 19:43 anything right. I try this, I 19:46 try that, but I'm going to just 19:49 totally put my life and the 19:52 direction my life is going to 19:53 take in Your hands." And it was 19:57 very clear after I did that that 19:59 the Lord wanted me to go into 20:01 the profession of, you know, 20:04 being a natural doctor and 20:06 helping people with their 20:07 health. 20:08 >> And now today you have a very 20:10 successful clinic that you are 20:14 running and that you're working 20:15 with and that's just amazing. 20:17 And I believe you work there, 20:18 too, Erika. 20:20 >> Yes. Yes, that's right. David 20:21 and I have worked together for 20:21 many, many years. But I really 20:24 believe that God has given David 20:27 the gift of healing. He gives 20:30 him the wisdom to know what to 20:32 do with all these different 20:34 cases. People have been many, 20:36 many places before they've come 20:38 to David. Often he's the last 20:40 resort with their health issue, 20:43 that they just, they haven't 20:44 gotten the results that they 20:44 need. And I just have seen it 20:47 over the years so many times 20:50 that he knows the right thing to 20:52 recommend for people. It's God's 20:54 doing, it is. 20:57 >> And probably your experience 21:00 of going through all of that, 21:02 you know what they're going 21:04 through and you have an 21:08 intuitive understanding of what 21:10 to share, you know, from 21:12 personal experience. And so you 21:14 can relate to that. And that can 21:16 be very helpful just to make the 21:19 patient understand, hey, Doctor 21:21 understands what I'm going 21:22 through and he really 21:24 understands how to treat me. And 21:26 that gives them a lot of 21:28 confidence in what you treat 21:29 them with. 21:30 >> Yeah, I wouldn't wish what 21:31 I've had to go through on 21:33 anyone, but as it turns out, God 21:36 has used that as a huge blessing 21:38 in order for me to help other 21:40 people. Yes, very true. 21:42 >> Do you find opportunities to 21:44 share your faith? 21:46 >> I'm surprised at how many 21:49 times people will say -- because 21:52 I don't make any bones about the 21:55 fact that I'm a Christian, you 21:56 know, in my office it's very 21:58 clear that I'm a Christian. And 22:00 in the field that I am in, it's 22:02 steeped in a lot of other types 22:05 of philosophies and a lot of it 22:09 Eastern Thought and Mysticism 22:11 and things like that. And so the 22:15 fact that I'm a different kind 22:17 of natural practitioner than 22:19 what they may be used to, makes 22:21 them sit up and pay attention 22:22 and I think that there's a lot 22:24 of times that people will say 22:29 things that I know that I have 22:34 been an influence on them as to 22:38 the Christian life. 22:39 >> Yes, yes. 22:40 >> And that's rewarding and I'm 22:42 sure that in heaven I may find 22:45 that there's many others, too, 22:47 that are there perhaps because 22:50 they had an experience with 22:53 their health and with the help 22:55 that I've been able to help them 22:57 with in order to bring them into 23:00 a relationship with Christ. 23:02 That's my prayer. 23:03 >> Yeah. I'm reminded of a song, 23:06 Stand Up, Stand Up For Jesus . 23:08 And when we do, you know, He 23:11 works through us. And as you 23:14 said you make no bones about it, 23:15 you are unashamedly a Christian 23:18 and we're going actually to 23:21 listen to that song. This song 23:22 was recorded in Wartburg in 23:25 Germany, the famous castle where 23:27 Martin Luther worked out of. And 23:30 so let's listen to that song 23:31 right now. 23:36 ♪♪♪ 24:00 ♪ Stand up, stand up for Jesus, 24:04 ♪ Ye soldiers of the cross; 24:08 ♪ Lift high His royal banner, 24:12 ♪ It must not suffer loss. 24:16 ♪ From victory unto victory 24:20 ♪ His army shall He lead, 24:24 ♪ Till every foe is vanquished, 24:28 ♪ And Christ is Lord indeed. 24:32 ♪♪♪ 25:02 ♪ Stand up, stand up for Jesus, 25:05 ♪ Stand in His strength alone; 25:09 ♪ The arm of flesh will fail you, 25:13 ♪ Ye dare not trust your own. 25:17 ♪ Put on the gospel armour, 25:21 ♪ And, watching unto prayer; 25:25 ♪ Where duty calls or danger, 25:29 ♪ Be never wanting there. 25:33 ♪♪♪ 25:42 ♪ Stand up, stand up for Jesus, 25:46 ♪ The strife will not be long; 25:50 ♪ This day the noise of battle, 25:54 ♪ The next the victor's song. 25:58 ♪ To him that overcometh 26:02 ♪ A crown of life shall be; 26:06 ♪ Be with the King of Glory 26:10 ♪ Shall reign eternally. 26:15 ♪ Stand up, stand up, stand up! 26:30 >> I love that song: Stand Up, 26:31 荱and Up For Jesus . That's a 26:32 courageous song and we are to 26:35 follow the example of Jesus 26:36 found right here in His word. 26:37 The book of Luke, written by a 26:40 doctor, Doctor Luke, and he 26:42 wrote in Luke chapter 2 verse 26:44 52, about the life of Jesus that 26:46 He continued to "increase in 26:48 wisdom and in stature and in 26:50 favour with God and man." So 26:51 that's a complete, holistic 26:53 growth. And so, friends, we have 26:55 an offer for you today it is 26:57 The Promise of Peace. 26:59 箝d here is the information: 27:02 >> To request today's offer, 27:03 just log onto 27:04 www.ItIsWrittenCanada.ca. If you 27:09 prefer, you may call toll free 27:10 at 1-888-CALL-IIW. And thank you 27:15 for your prayer requests and 27:16 . 27:19 >> So, Dr. Sloan and Erika, 27:21 thank you so much for joining us 27:23 today. It was an absolute 27:24 blessing to have you here and to 27:26 hear your testimony and what God 27:28 has done in your life so, Dr. 27:30 Sloan, can I ask you to have a 27:32 word of prayer for us please. 27:33 >> Certainly. Dear Father in 27:37 heaven, we are so grateful for 27:41 the many blessings that You pour 27:43 out upon us. And if there is 27:46 anyone who is viewing this 27:48 program that is not sure about 27:52 the Lord in their life and where 27:54 they're going, I pray that You 27:57 will give them the assurance 28:00 that You are always with them 28:02 and that as they give their 28:04 heart to You sincerely, that 28:07 they repent of the sins they 28:09 have committed and seek You and 28:13 Your will in their lives that 28:15 You will unerringly lead them in 28:19 the way that they should go. 28:21 Thank You for the promises, 28:23 Lord, that You have given us and 28:25 be with us now as we close up 28:29 our program for today. In Jesus' 28:31 name, amen. 28:33 >> So, friends, thank you for 28:36 joining us again on It Is 28:37 Written Canada. Remember the 28:39 words of Jesus where He says, 28:40 "It is written, man shall not 28:41 live by bread alone, but by 28:42 every word that proceeds out of 28:44 the mouth of God." 28:47 ♪♪♪ |
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