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Series Code: IIWC
Program Code: IIWC202010S
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00:01 >> Welcome and thank you
00:02 for joining us on 00:03 It Is Written Canada. 00:04 Today we are here in 00:05 beautiful William's Park 00:07 in Langley, British Columbia. 00:09 And we have with us today 00:12 the president and owner of 00:15 Colorific Pre-finishers, 00:17 custom builders. 00:19 Thank you for joining us, 00:20 Lorne Brownmiller. 00:22 You are also an elder in your 00:23 church so thank you for being 00:25 with us here today. 00:27 >> Absolutely my pleasure, 00:28 Mike and René. 00:30 >> Tell us a little bit about 00:31 your company to begin with. 00:32 >> So, yeah, the company that 00:35 we own is Colorific. 00:36 It was an existing company, 00:38 my son and I purchased it 00:40 eight years ago 00:41 and we stain and paint 00:43 doors and windows. 00:44 And so it's not all that 00:46 terribly glamorous, 00:47 however we do strive to 00:49 do a great job. 00:51 We've got a deep customer base 00:53 and we continue to serve the 00:56 Abbotsford and Vancouver area 00:58 in finishing products. 01:02 [René] And Lorne, you never 01:04 always used to run a 01:05 home renovations or 01:07 custom-building line before. 01:10 Before you owned and operated 01:12 a very different type of 01:13 business in Whistler. 01:15 So can you tell us a little 01:17 bit about how things have 01:18 changed from then to how 01:21 you're living today? 01:23 >> Right, yeah. 01:25 I'd say a night club is 01:27 very, very different than 01:28 staining and painting. 01:31 Yeah, years ago, René, 01:34 I was brought up a farm kid. 01:38 We were poor, one of six kids. 01:42 My dad died when I was eleven. 01:44 And the reason why I 01:48 gravitated towards wanting 01:49 something different in my life 01:51 is what I seen as a farm kid 01:53 is not what I wanted 01:55 for my life. 01:56 And so as time would go on, 02:01 I dropped out of school as 02:02 early as I could. 02:04 My dad died when I was eleven. 02:06 Actually he got sick when I 02:07 was eleven and he passed away 02:09 when I was twelve. 02:10 And what ended up happening 02:12 was the-- 02:16 It really took me for a loop 02:18 because I knew that God could 02:20 have saved my dad, but He 02:23 never chose to and it was that 02:27 kind of thinking from that 02:28 time that I really started to 02:30 really lose faith in God and 02:32 that I didn't really like Him, 02:33 I didn't care for Him, 02:34 I didn't like the way 02:35 He operated. 02:36 And so it started to change my 02:40 whole trajectory really 02:42 as a young guy and I started 02:45 to gravitate towards 02:47 rebellion, really. 02:48 And I was a redhead when I was 02:50 a young kid so maybe that 02:52 explained some of it. 02:55 However, as I got a little bit 02:57 older and could make some of 02:59 my own decisions, 03:00 I dropped out of school 03:01 and I went after money. 03:03 I wanted to have money. 03:05 I didn't have any, 03:06 I wanted to have money, 03:07 I wanted to have fame 03:08 if that was possible. 03:10 And so as life would go on 03:11 I started to work with my 03:14 brother for a number of years 03:16 in construction 03:17 and so that was my initial-- 03:20 That's how it was easy to get 03:22 back into construction after 03:23 being in the night club for a 03:24 number of years. 03:26 And so we worked for a number 03:28 of years together, my brother 03:30 and I and an opportunity came 03:32 up in Vancouver in 1983 when a 03:35 friend of mine phoned me and 03:37 said, "Come and have a look" 03:38 "at this space." 03:40 "Would you like to" 03:42 "open a restaurant?" 03:43 And so in 1983 we opened a 03:45 restaurant in Vancouver and I 03:48 was 24 years old at the time. 03:51 And it caught on, 03:52 it was very successful for a 03:54 number of years and in 1988 03:57 we had a fire that ended our 04:01 lease basically in 1988. 04:04 We had opened up a new night 04:06 club in Whistler at the time. 04:10 And so we found a niche very 04:14 quickly in Whistler. 04:15 We had an underground music 04:17 type scene going on which was 04:20 not happening in Whistler so 04:21 we filled a niche that-- 04:23 And we became very popular 04:25 over the time. 04:26 >> And at this time 04:27 you were married... 04:28 >> Absolutely. 04:30 >> To your lovely 04:31 wife, Audrey. 04:32 [Lorne] Audrey was a Christian, 04:33 she was brought up a Christian, 04:35 but she compromised her life 04:39 for a number of years and, 04:41 you know, we had a great life 04:43 together in terms of trying to 04:45 carve out our life and try and 04:48 figure out how to live a life 04:50 of significance and make some 04:52 money and have some fun. 04:54 We moved to Whistler and 04:56 life was great 04:57 as far as I was concerned. 04:59 We had a great business, 05:01 I had a good partnership with 05:03 my partner and business just 05:06 continued to grow and grow. 05:08 And so it wasn't until really 05:13 that my life, I think, started 05:16 to get in the way of the 05:18 business because 05:20 I was unhappy inside. 05:22 So years before I had decided 05:23 to get God out of my life, 05:27 in my involvement with Him, 05:29 His involvement with me though 05:30 wasn't over. 05:32 And He continued to... 05:37 I would say... 05:39 interrupt what I was 05:43 going after all of-- 05:45 through all of my life 05:47 and I went after it hard. 05:48 I had a drinking problem, 05:50 I had a drug problem, 05:52 I smoked three packs a day. 05:54 I was living fast and 05:58 probably gonna to die young. 06:00 And it wasn't until... 06:04 really, that life started to 06:06 kind of unravel 06:08 that I realized that I... 06:10 I needed to do something about 06:13 my position with God. 06:17 And it was about 1995 when I 06:21 decided to read the Bible 06:22 for myself. 06:24 I had never read the Bible 06:25 before, I was always told 06:27 what the Bible meant. 06:29 And as I was brought up, 06:31 the religion that I was 06:32 brought up in, I felt that I 06:34 couldn't really just trust the 06:35 Bible for exactly what the 06:37 Bible had to say because there 06:38 were so many other things that 06:40 these things didn't actually 06:42 mean what they said. 06:44 And so I quickly got to the 06:47 place where I didn't like the 06:48 Bible, I didn't like God, 06:50 I didn't like the Bible, 06:51 I didn't like the rules. 06:52 I just didn't like the rules 06:54 as a young man either. 06:56 And as I got older I still 06:57 didn't like the rules. 06:59 In fact I still have a problem 07:00 with the rules sometimes. 07:02 But... 07:04 God's working through all of 07:05 that too, but with-- 07:07 I decided to read the Bible 07:10 and in reading the Bible I 07:12 started to see things 07:14 that made a lot of sense. 07:17 Without having anybody else to 07:20 tell me what certain things 07:21 meant, I seen a 07:25 symmetry in the Bible, 07:28 where there was a consistency 07:30 in love and in gentleness and 07:34 in patience and in kindness. 07:36 And I started first reading 07:38 the Old Testament, 07:40 start at the beginning, 07:42 and my wife asked me one day 07:43 where I was at in my readings 07:44 of the Bible and I said, 07:47 "Don't worry." 07:48 "Don't worry about it." 07:49 "I'm reading the Bible," 07:50 "I don't want any--" 07:51 "I don't want any advice from" 07:53 "any Seventh-day Adventist." 07:53 >> Yeah. [chuckles] 07:54 >> And she said, "No." 07:56 She said, "No, I'm just" 07:57 "telling you," she said, 07:58 "You may wanna--" 07:58 "If you wanna learn about" 08:00 "who Jesus really is," 08:01 "maybe start reading" 08:02 "in the Gospels." 08:03 Well, as it turned out, 08:05 I started to read the Gospels 08:06 not too far along. 08:08 And there was a lot of things 08:11 in the New Testament that made 08:13 a lot of sense and in terms of 08:16 the commandments and the laws, 08:17 the importance of them. 08:19 And that's something that was 08:20 emphasized to me as a young 08:21 man that were kind of 08:23 abolished, they were kind of 08:24 taken care, they were done 08:25 away with, they were kind of 08:27 put off to the side, 08:28 the commandments were not that 08:29 important anymore. 08:31 And that's not what I seen in 08:33 the New Testament. 08:36 That's not what I seen in the 08:37 Old Testament either. 08:39 So I have to confess that the 08:42 reason I was reading the Bible 08:43 wasn't to gain any great 08:45 insight, it was to condemn it, 08:47 just to get rid of it 08:49 because I knew it was packed 08:50 with contradictions and that 08:52 all I had to do was line them 08:53 all up and then just go, 08:56 "There you go." 08:57 "Throw 'em away." 08:58 And... 09:00 But that wasn't to be. 09:03 And as I continued to read the 09:05 Bible, I started to see a lot 09:09 of things that were important 09:12 that I never knew being 09:15 important as a kid, 09:17 as a young man, as anything. 09:19 And all through this time 09:23 my wife is-- 09:25 she's going to church, going 09:27 to church up in Pemberton. 09:29 And she's taking the kids and 09:32 I'm harassing her about going 09:34 to church and taking the kids 09:36 and, you know, the whole-- 09:37 the whole dialogue there. 09:40 And Audrey comes to me one day 09:43 and she says, "Lorne, 09:44 she says, "I need to speak" 09:46 "with you." 09:47 And I said... 09:50 "Yeah, yeah, let's--" 09:51 you know, "let's chat." 09:53 And Audrey had a look in her 09:56 eyes that I've not seen very 09:59 often and it was a very 10:01 serious look and I knew that 10:02 there was trouble. 10:04 And she said, 10:05 "Lorne, I'm not happy here." 10:07 And I said to her, 10:10 "What do you mean you're not" 10:11 "happy here?" 10:13 I said, "We just built a new" 10:14 "house," I said, "we just" 10:15 "have two brand new vehicles," 10:16 "we just got back from" 10:17 "a cruise..." you know. 10:19 I said, you know, 10:21 "Audrey, go downtown." 10:22 "You need to spend--" 10:23 We had a place downtown. 10:25 "Go down to Vancouver, spend" 10:26 "some time with your family," 10:28 you know, "spend some time..." 10:29 She said, "No, that's" 10:30 "not what I mean." 10:31 She said, "I don't like" 10:33 "what's happening to you here" 10:34 "in Whistler, I don't like" 10:36 "my life here in Whistler." 10:39 And I said, "Well," I said, 10:41 "I don't have any intentions" 10:42 "of ever giving up Whistler." 10:44 "Ever." 10:46 And I said, "What's up?" 10:50 And she says, "I wanna be" 10:51 "closer to my church." 10:53 "Ooooh. Oooh, yeah." 10:56 She said, "I want my kids to" 10:57 "go to a Christian school." 10:59 "I wanna be closer" 11:00 to my family." 11:01 She said, "I don't--" 11:03 "I'm not feeling fulfilled" 11:05 "here in Whistler." 11:06 And she said, "I don't like" 11:07 "what's happening to you." 11:11 And I said, "You're gonna" 11:12 "break us up?" 11:14 I said, I think the words I 11:15 used, I said, "You're gonna" 11:16 "bust us up." 11:18 I said, "Why are you willing" 11:18 "to do that?" 11:20 And she said, "Lorne, that's" 11:22 "not my intention." 11:24 She said-- but she said, 11:25 "Jesus is coming again" 11:27 "and I have to get myself" 11:28 "and my children ready" 11:29 "to meet Him." 11:32 And when Audrey... 11:36 When Audrey dropped that on me 11:39 I was humbled and the next 11:42 thing I said was, 11:44 "OK, we'll move." 11:46 And that wasn't me. 11:49 [laughs] 11:51 I'm sorry to say, that was not 11:56 what I was prepared to do. 11:59 And so during this time I went 12:01 to a-- I was invited to a 12:04 prophecy seminar in Vancouver, 12:07 it was in Burnaby, actually. 12:09 And the speaker's name was 12:11 Leo Schreven. 12:13 And we went and we... 12:17 We went to the meeting and 12:19 I just loved it. 12:21 So I did understand that 12:23 Daniel and Revelation were 12:24 sister books 12:25 and that the one was needed to 12:27 understand the other book. 12:29 And this is exactly what the 12:30 speaker was talking about. 12:33 And I went to the meeting, 12:37 I'm listening to the meeting, 12:38 I'm loving the meeting, 12:40 and just towards the end of 12:43 the meeting, 12:44 I just become enraged 12:48 over what was told 12:50 the audience. 12:52 So as I stand up to want to 12:53 leave, Audrey says to me, 12:54 "What's wrong?" 12:56 I said, "I'm not sitting here" 12:58 "listening to that." 12:59 And she said, "To what?" 13:00 And I said, 13:02 "I'm just gettin' outta here." 13:04 And so Audrey gives me a 13:05 comment card in my hand 13:07 and so I-- 13:08 She said, "Here," 13:09 "fill this out." 13:11 And so I fill out the 13:12 comment card 13:15 and I give it to her and I 13:16 went and waited in the car. 13:19 Meanwhile, Audrey had friends 13:20 in the prayer room 13:21 praying for me and she didn't 13:23 know what had gone wrong. 13:25 Nobody understood 13:26 what had gone wrong. 13:28 I think we drove home, I don't 13:28 think I talked about it. 13:30 I got home. 13:32 We were living in a-- 13:33 We leased a place in Burnaby. 13:37 I spent the night and I got up 13:38 in the morning and I went back 13:39 to Whistler. 13:40 And... 13:44 That night I'm in 13:45 my condo in Whistler 13:46 and I get a phone call. 13:47 Phone rings, 13:49 pick up the phone, 13:50 and the guy says, 13:51 "Is this Lorne Brownmiller?" 13:52 and I said, "Yeah." 13:53 He said, "This is" 13:54 "Leo Schreven." 13:55 I still remember. 13:56 I went, "Oh, really?" 13:58 "Really? OK..." 14:00 Anyway, I... 14:03 I got angry when I first 14:05 thought about it, but I 14:06 laughed because I was gonna 14:07 give him a blast, right? 14:09 So I said, "You know what?" 14:10 I said, "First of all, I want" 14:11 "to tell you something." 14:13 I said, "I believe..." 14:15 "I believe that the" 14:16 "Adventists have complete" 14:17 "truth on Daniel and" 14:19 "Revelation." 14:20 I said, "It is--" 14:21 "What you preached," I said, 14:23 "was from the Bible." 14:25 And I said, "I loved it." 14:27 I said, "But, Leo," 14:28 I said, "You're not gonna get" 14:29 "guys like me" 14:31 "ending a meeting the way" 14:32 "you did last night." 14:34 And Leo says, 14:36 "How did I end my meeting?" 14:39 And I said, "Oh, you know how" 14:40 "you ended your meeting, Leo." 14:43 He said, "Why don't you tell" 14:44 "me how I ended my meeting?" 14:45 I said, "I'm not gonna tell" 14:46 "you how you ended your" 14:48 "meeting, you know how you" 14:49 "ended your meeting." 14:50 He said, "Would you please" 14:51 "tell me how I ended" 14:52 "my meeting?" 14:53 And I said, "OK, Leo..." 14:55 "I'll tell you." 14:58 I said, "You told me" 15:00 "that when I left the" 15:02 "building," I said, 15:03 "I was leaving either serving" 15:04 "God or serving the Devil." 15:10 I said to Leo, I said, 15:11 "I don't serve anybody, Leo." 15:15 And in my arrogance I said, 15:17 "Leo, I created myself." 15:20 I said, "I don't" 15:21 "serve anybody." 15:23 And Leo says to me... 15:29 "What don't you understand" 15:30 "about that?" 15:32 And I said, 15:33 "Oh, I understand." I said, 15:34 "Either you serve God or by" 15:36 "default you serve the Devil." 15:39 And when I puked that 15:41 out of my mouth... 15:47 I couldn't believe it. 15:50 In fact I got so quiet, 15:51 Leo had to say, 15:52 "Are you still there?" 15:54 I said, "Yeah," I said, 15:55 "I'm still here, Leo." 15:59 And I said, "Leo," I said, 16:00 "Is that really how it is?" 16:02 He said, "Yep." 16:03 He said, "That's exactly" 16:04 "how it is, Lorne." 16:07 He said, "But I wanna tell" 16:08 "you something," he said, 16:09 "I never ended--" 16:16 I get emotional thinking about 16:17 this every time. 16:21 He said, "I never ended my" 16:22 "meeting that way." 16:24 He said, "I believe the" 16:25 "Holy Spirit wanted you to" 16:26 "hear it like that though." 16:29 And he said, 16:30 "What are you doing?" 16:32 And I said, "I'm just reading" 16:33 "my Bible, Leo." 16:38 And he said, "That's good." 16:40 He said, "Are you doing" 16:41 "anything else?" 16:42 I said, "I'm praying before" 16:43 "I read my Bible." 16:44 He says, "Oh," he says, 16:45 "that's really good." 16:47 And so... 16:49 we ended the conversation, 16:52 I never seen Leo again 16:54 until a couple of years later 16:57 and got to meet him 16:58 and got to know him. 17:00 But that changed everything 17:03 for me because I never... 17:06 I never understood that 17:10 there's two that you serve. 17:11 There's one or the other. 17:12 You cannot-- 17:14 It says in the Bible you can't 17:15 serve two masters either. 17:17 So I knew who I was serving 17:19 pretty good. 17:21 And what was interesting about 17:23 my service to the Devil was 17:27 that I never got any peace. 17:30 I never got any sense of calm 17:34 or the peace that I was 17:37 really kind of looking for. 17:39 You know, after you become-- 17:41 After you get some money and 17:43 you're able to do these things, 17:44 you wanna have some 17:45 joy and you wanna have some 17:46 peace in your life. 17:47 Well, I was never given that. 17:49 And, you know, the habits that 17:51 you cr-- get involved in, 17:55 they only get worse. 17:58 You know, drugs and booze, 17:59 they seem like a lot of fun 18:00 when you're doing them, 18:01 and they are and I've had 18:03 lots of fun in that vane, 18:05 but it doesn't stay that 18:07 way, it doesn't-- 18:08 It becomes all-encompassing 18:10 and it does take over your 18:12 life and control it 18:13 and ruin it eventually. 18:15 And so that's-- 18:19 That was that and, you know, 18:20 after that things just started 18:23 to really, really roll for me 18:25 because... 18:27 I was on a different-- 18:29 I was on a completely 18:30 different level with God 18:32 and I understood that He did 18:34 desire something good for me. 18:36 >> So tell me about that 18:37 "ah-ha" moment for you. 18:39 How did God speak to you so 18:41 that you saw Him differently? 18:42 >> Yeah... 18:45 Ever since I was a kid, 18:47 as long as I can remember I 18:49 always thought that God needed 18:51 something from me, 18:52 that there was something that 18:53 I had to do for God 18:55 in order for Him to bless me, 18:58 to look after me, to... 19:00 you know... 19:04 to love me, basically. 19:06 That there was something that 19:07 I had to do first. 19:08 And I never realized that when 19:12 God created me, He wanted me 19:13 to have a great childhood, 19:15 He wanted me to have 19:17 good parents, good brothers 19:19 and sisters, you know, that 19:20 was my scenario. 19:22 When I got older, He wanted me 19:24 to have good friends, 19:26 He wanted me to have a good 19:27 job, I chose to have a wife, 19:30 He wanted me to have a great 19:31 wife, and if I had kids He 19:32 wanted me to have obedient, 19:34 loving kids, and if I chose a 19:35 job, He wanted me to have a 19:36 fulfilling job, and to have 19:38 money and to have a house and 19:40 to have all of these things, 19:42 I never knew that. 19:47 I thought that it was always 19:48 something dependent on me. 19:50 And that God desired all of 19:51 this for me, 19:54 He wanted me to have a good, 19:54 healthy body, 19:57 He wanted me to have all of 19:58 these things whether I loved 20:00 Him or not. 20:01 And I never understood that. 20:04 And through my journey, 20:06 when I was able to understand 20:08 that and own that, 20:09 it changed everything 20:11 because not only did God want 20:14 me to have all of this stuff, 20:17 whether I loved Him or not, 20:20 He also, if I wanted to have 20:23 a relationship with Him, 20:24 if I wanted to get in 20:25 deeper with Him, 20:26 He could even promise me more, 20:27 like everlasting life. 20:29 Right? So it changed 20:31 everything for me, like-- 20:32 >> But even if you didn't 20:33 accept that, right? 20:35 Like, Jesus said, 20:36 "These things I say to you" 20:37 "that My joy might be in you." 20:38 So He wants us to 20:40 experience joy. 20:41 And whether we accept that or 20:44 not, He still wants us to be 20:45 happy, right? 20:46 And whether we accept 20:47 Him or not, 20:49 that is heart-transforming 20:50 when you realize that that's 20:51 His character. 20:52 It's completely unconditional. 20:54 >> It really is true and, 20:55 you know, the other part of it 20:57 through my journey, 21:01 you know, I just want to share 21:02 with you the gentleness that 21:04 Jesus has had with me 21:06 is incredible, 21:08 and still has for me 21:12 because it's not over yet. 21:13 >> Yeah, exactly. 21:14 It's not forceful, it's not, 21:16 "You don't get it, I'm gonna" 21:18 "push it on you," and 21:19 "just be careful and make" 21:20 "sure you do this right," 21:21 "it's very gentle." 21:23 >> Yeah, it's always an 21:24 invitation, it's always an 21:26 invitation to get it. 21:27 You know, He wants us to get 21:29 it for ourselves because, see, 21:30 once we get it and own it, 21:32 it's very, very different. 21:33 >> It's very different. 21:34 Yeah. 21:35 >> So, Lorne, now you've 21:37 accepted Jesus into 21:38 your heart. 21:40 Have you always been happy 21:41 with your faith? 21:42 And has it been easy since 21:44 you've done that? 21:47 >> Umm... 21:49 No, it's not, it's not been 21:51 completely easy. 21:53 It's had, you know, some 21:55 really wonderful, wonderful 21:58 points in it, 22:00 but it's not always been easy. 22:03 There's times when, 22:06 I'm going put it this way, 22:08 where I'm just not feelin' it. 22:10 And, you know, when... 22:15 When you journey here, 22:16 when you journey in this life, 22:17 just because you know Jesus, 22:18 doesn't mean it's gonna be-- 22:20 gonna be easy. 22:21 Jesus actually promises us 22:22 trouble. [laughs] 22:23 >> Yeah, John 16:33, yeah, 22:25 "In this world, you're gonna" 22:27 "have tribulations." 22:27 >> Right, right. 22:29 >> "Be of good cheer," 22:30 you know, "I have overcome" 22:30 "the world." 22:31 He is with us, yeah. 22:32 >> Absolutely! 22:33 >> And so that's, you know, 22:35 it in a nutshell that, 22:36 you know, even though we're 22:37 gonna have these trials we've 22:39 got to continue to hold on to 22:40 Jesus because He's the answer 22:42 and He is gonna see you 22:43 through no matter, right? 22:46 Even if it's not a great 22:48 outcome, He's gonna see you 22:49 through and-- 22:51 with His promises. 22:53 >> Lorne, can you tell us what 22:55 brings joy in your Christian 22:58 walk to you right now, today? 23:01 >> Well, I gotta tell you, 23:03 I'm involved in a 23:04 fantastic church 23:06 and I believe 23:08 that's where a lot of my joy 23:10 comes from. 23:12 My joy comes from my family as 23:13 well, I've got two great 23:15 grandkids and I'd say to 23:16 anybody, if you can, 23:18 have grandkids first. 23:19 [laughs] 23:22 They're the best! 23:23 I got two great grandkids that 23:26 I get a lot of joy out of 23:27 going to church with 23:28 and just trying to journey 23:30 along with teaching them to 23:32 know and to love Jesus and to 23:34 trust Him. 23:35 I've got two great kids as 23:36 well, Sterling and Amber, 23:38 of course and I've got a great 23:39 wife and I also want to just 23:41 touch on the fact that, 23:43 you know, when you come in as 23:45 a Christian, a new Christian, 23:48 and you come into a family 23:51 that is already there for you, 23:54 so my wife was a Christian, 23:58 it made it very, very easy for 23:59 me to become a Christian. 24:01 It was very, very easy for me 24:03 to give up the drinking 24:05 and the smoking and the drugs. 24:07 And, you know, I'm proud to 24:09 say, and thank you, Jesus 24:12 and thank you, Audrey, 24:14 twenty-two years clean and 24:15 sober this past April. 24:17 And that's the power of God. 24:18 I never asked for it, 24:19 He just gave it to me, 24:21 it was just carte blanche. 24:22 He just allowed it to happen. 24:24 So coming into that community 24:26 and the joy of service 24:29 is really what it's about. 24:31 Jesus said He came to serve 24:32 not to be served. 24:35 Church In the Valley gives 24:36 you that vehicle 24:38 to be able to serve. 24:41 [Mike] So tell me about the 24:42 scriptures, Lorne. 24:43 For you, I know the scriptures 24:45 are really important. 24:46 Tell us a Bible text or some 24:48 texts that have strengthened 24:50 your faith and encouraged you 24:51 on your walk with God. 24:53 [Lorne] I'd have to say 24:54 Proverbs 14, verse 12. 24:57 And it might seem odd, but it 24:59 talks about the fact that 25:01 there seems a way that's right 25:02 unto a man and in its end it 25:04 leads to death. 25:06 It's a good reminder of me 25:08 that I have to stay connected 25:10 to scripture, I have to stay 25:12 connected to Jesus 25:15 because I can't trust myself. 25:17 I can't trust this thing 25:18 called feelings 25:20 because it's deceitful. 25:23 I also like Romans chapter 8, 25:27 the entire chapter because it 25:29 talks about the struggle with 25:30 flesh and the spirit 25:34 and the contrast between the 25:35 two and it helps me to realize 25:37 that I'm not going crazy, 25:39 that I'm-- 25:40 That it's just this journey... 25:41 >> It is. 25:42 >> And that I have to continue 25:44 to stay connected. 25:45 >> And that encouragement 25:46 right at the end, no matter 25:47 what, what you go through, 25:49 life or death, nothing's gonna 25:50 separate us from 25:51 the love of God. 25:53 >> Isn't it something. Yeah. 25:54 It's such a beautiful text. 25:56 Absolutely. 25:57 >> Lorne, can we ask you 25:59 to please have the closing 26:00 prayer for us? 26:02 >> Sure, I'd be happy to. 26:05 Father in heaven, as we bow 26:07 before You here because You 26:08 are so worthy, we just want to 26:10 thank you for this 26:11 opportunity today. 26:13 I pray that You, Father, will 26:16 find a heart that wants to 26:18 listen to this story today. 26:21 You have done so much for me 26:23 and for my family 26:24 and I'm so grateful. 26:26 And I know that You long to do 26:28 this for each and every person 26:29 that even slightly wants to 26:33 give You a try. 26:34 I thank You for the ministry 26:36 of It Is Written, 26:37 please bless Mike and René 26:39 in their journey 26:41 and the stories to come. 26:43 And we just want to praise You 26:44 and thank You, 26:45 in Jesus' holy name, amen. 26:46 >> Amen. 26:48 Thank you, Lorne, 26:49 so much for joining us. 26:50 >> Yeah, thank you very much. 26:51 My pleasure. 26:55 >> So what happens when you go 26:56 beyond the rituals, 26:57 beyond the external forms 26:59 and beyond religion 27:01 to experience life, 27:03 to experience that authentic, 27:04 one-on-one connection? 27:06 So that is our 27:07 free offer today, 27:08 it's this little booklet 27:09 called, Beyond Religion 27:12 and if you would like to make 27:13 it your own, here is the 27:14 information you need. 27:16 >> To request today's offer, 27:17 call toll-free 27:19 at 1-888-CALL-IIW. 27:22 That's 1-888-CALL-IIW. 27:28 >> Friends, we'd also like to 27:29 invite you to follow us on 27:31 Instagram and Facebook, 27:33 to subscribe to our 27:34 YouTube channel, 27:36 and to listen to our Podcasts. 27:39 And if you go to our webpage, 27:41 you can see our latest 27:42 programs including our 27:44 exercise programs and 27:46 healthy-eating videos called, 27:48 Experiencing Life. 27:50 And you can also listen and 27:52 watch our spiritual messages 27:54 called, Daily Living. 27:56 [Mike] They are all there 27:58 free for you to watch whenever 27:59 you choose because we want you 28:01 to experience the truth that 28:03 is found in the words of Jesus 28:04 when He said, "It is written," 28:06 "man shall not live by bread" 28:08 "alone, but by every word" 28:09 "that proceeds out of the" 28:11 "mouth of God." 28:12 ♪♪ |
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