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One of the Best, Most Consistent 10K Runners in Canada

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00:40 >> Welcome and thank you
00:41 for joining us on
00:42 It Is Written Canada.
00:44 One of the things that René
00:45 and I love to do is to go
00:47 running and so today I'm so
00:49 excited because we are with a
00:50 professional runner,
00:52 Philip Ellis, who is the
00:53 general manager of Peninsula
00:55 Runners here in Langley,
00:57 British Columbia.
00:58 So, Phil, thank you for
01:00 joining us on
01:01 It Is Written Canada.
01:02 >> Well, thank you for coming
01:03 to beautiful Langley,
01:04 British Columbia.
01:05 >> Yeah, thank you for having
01:05 us at one of your stores.
01:07 You have three stores.
01:08 Tell us about your work.
01:09 >> Yeah, so Peninsula Runners
01:11 is a locally owned independent
01:12 running store that was started
01:14 a little over 20 years ago.
01:16 We have three locations here
01:18 in Fraser Valley and our goal
01:20 is to get people with the
01:22 right fit for their foot so
01:24 they can go out and run and
01:26 exercise and walk and stay
01:27 healthy and fit.
01:29 >> That's great.
01:30 So, Phil, we can see that
01:33 running is a very big part of
01:34 your life, so can you take us
01:36 back to those earlier years
01:38 and how running became a big
01:39 part of your life?
01:41 >> Yeah, we're going back a
01:42 long way, but...
01:43 Yeah, back when I was in
01:45 school in grade 8 and grade 9
01:47 I was running, started running
01:49 before gym class.
01:51 You'd have to go out for a
01:52 mile-and-a-half run and I
01:53 was-- realized fairly quickly
01:55 that I was the fastest kid and
01:56 I would push myself hard so I
01:58 was always coming in first.
02:00 And my gym teacher was like,
02:02 "You know what, you may need"
02:03 "to maybe train a little bit,"
02:04 "you've got some"
02:05 "ability here."
02:06 So I ran a couple of the 10K
02:08 races to kinda try to beat my
02:11 friends' dads which I was able
02:13 to do and I realized I was
02:14 fairly good at it and it
02:15 becomes something you wanna
02:17 keep doing when you're doing
02:19 well, so I kept at it.
02:20 [René] That's great.
02:22 So if you could put it into
02:23 words, what would you say
02:25 running is to you now?
02:27 >> Today? Oh, it's a huge part
02:28 of my life, right?
02:30 It has been and will continue
02:32 to be, I mean, to be in this
02:33 business I feel if I wasn't
02:35 going out running, I always
02:36 say running is part of my job
02:38 so I get the excuse to go
02:40 running every morning,
02:41 [chuckles] right?
02:42 But so it's a huge part of my
02:43 life, but it's-- and it's also
02:45 for my mental side of things,
02:46 for my physical health
02:48 obviously I think it's
02:49 important, but probably more
02:51 so for my mental just to
02:54 de-stress and enjoy nature and
02:56 get out in--
02:58 on the trails here in the
03:00 Fraser Valley.
03:01 >> Tell us about food,
03:02 nutrition; is that a part of
03:04 your running?
03:05 >> Yeah, well, y--
03:07 It most definitely is.
03:08 I was raised, you know, eating
03:11 basically a plant-based diet
03:14 and I continue to and I
03:15 remember early on though,
03:17 my first coach saying,
03:18 "You know what, I think"
03:19 "that's something you'll"
03:20 "have to change."
03:21 "You'll probably need to"
03:22 "maybe eat some meat at some"
03:23 "point to have the endurance"
03:24 "to do the long races."
03:25 But no, I was--
03:27 that was probably my stronger
03:28 thing that I was strong.
03:30 I was never-- so...
03:32 But, yeah, I believe most
03:34 definitely eating a healthy,
03:36 balanced diet and lots of wa--
03:38 I'm a big water-drinker.
03:40 You see people with this
03:41 Gatorade stuff and I mean it's
03:42 just sugar water so...
03:44 >> So the James Cunningham
03:47 Seawall Race: tell us about
03:49 your involvement in that.
03:50 >> Yeah, so that's one of the
03:52 longest running races here in
03:54 B.C., started in 1971 when
03:56 they-- to commemorate the
03:57 finishing of the Seawall which
03:59 goes around Stanley Park so
04:01 they had developed a race to
04:02 go around there.
04:04 I ran it for the first time
04:05 when I was a kid in 1983
04:08 and I think, actually, I won
04:09 for being a kid under 19 and
04:13 then I went back and have done
04:14 that many years.
04:15 It's kind of a-- in the end of
04:16 October it's a good
04:18 season-ending kind of a race
04:20 and I was able to win it in
04:22 1988 and then went on to win
04:24 it another six times and...
04:25 [Mike] Six times!
04:26 [René] Whoa!
04:27 >> So, Phil, can you take
04:28 us back to when you won the
04:30 Vancouver Sun Run?
04:32 >> Yeah, that was 1991.
04:34 It was a-- I had come third
04:36 two years earlier and then--
04:38 So I knew I was capable of
04:40 doing well in this race, but
04:42 it was a very good field that
04:43 year, there was 5 or 6 guys
04:46 that either went to the 1988
04:48 Olympics or to the 1992
04:50 Olympics and so I wasn't the
04:52 favourite by any stretch, but
04:55 you gotta have confidence and
04:56 determination and
04:57 that I had.
04:58 And then I think we have...
05:00 >> We just have some footage
05:00 of that.
05:01 So let's take a look at that
05:03 and you can kinda walk us
05:03 and you can kinda walk us
05:04 through it, talk us through it
05:07 and see what's
05:08 happening there.
05:10 [Commentator] Now look what's
05:10 happening, Paul Williams
05:12 coming back, the 34-year-old
05:13 from Vancouver...
05:14 [Phil] Here I am,
05:15 The guy in the white shirt,
05:16 Paul has just passed me and...
05:19 yeah, I think he thought he
05:20 had the race won, that I'd
05:22 tired myself out, but I still
05:23 had an extra gear left and so
05:25 here I pull up beside him, we
05:26 had about 450 metres to go,
05:28 I'm just trying to figure out
05:30 when to go, I looked back to
05:31 make sure no-- none of the
05:32 other runners are gonna get
05:33 back in it and then look at my
05:36 watch, it's go time, let's谘.
05:38 So at this point I put a surge
05:40 in, my last surge of the race
05:42 and I pull away from Paul
05:44 fairly easily and I was quite
05:46 surprised that...
05:47 [Mike] And there's three guys
05:48 behind you...
05:49 [Phil] There's three guys
05:50 behind me, they're all very
05:51 qualified guys who went to the
05:53 1992 Olympics.
05:54 [Mike] So let's listen in.
05:56 [Commentator] ...looking
05:57 behind him as they approach
05:58 that finish line tight.
06:00 Phil Ellis once again looks to
06:01 his right, he knows he's got
06:02 the win today, let's take a
06:03 look at the clock.
06:04 Look at him, raising his arms
06:06 in victory, he's coming up to
06:06 the tape.
06:07 What a magnificent win for
06:09 Phil Ellis, 29:03 his winning
06:11 time, just a couple of seconds
06:13 ahead of Paul Williams...
06:14 >> Wow!
06:15 >> So how'd you feel
06:15 after that?
06:16 >> Oh, pretty excited.
06:17 I mean, I was pretty young at
06:18 the time, I had beaten those
06:20 three guys there.
06:21 That's Paul and Graham and
06:22 Art, they're all Olympic
06:24 runners that are all like 10
06:25 years older than me and so it
06:26 was quite an honour to beat
06:28 them in that situation.
06:30 >> When you're going over the
06:31 finish line here, you were
06:32 looking up and were you--
06:35 What were you thinking?
06:37 >> Oh, you know, I was happy
06:38 to win and...
06:40 You know what, back then
06:42 there was um...
06:44 There was people above, kind
06:45 of there's an overpass going
06:47 across the top so I think I
06:50 might have been looking, but,
06:51 you know...
06:52 Maybe thanking God, too,
06:53 I don't know, like [chuckles]
06:55 >> It was a big moment for you.
06:56 >> It was a big win for me.
06:57 I was, yeah.
06:58 It would have been something I
06:59 had dreaming about-- thinking
07:00 about for a long time heading
07:02 into that race so to pull it
07:03 off, to execute a strategy,
07:05 it's always good, right?
07:06 [Mike] Quite an achievement.
07:07 [René] That is great, so...
07:08 So you were in very good shape
07:11 at this time so what was your
07:13 average mile that you were
07:14 running at this time?
07:16 >> In that race it was 4:39 a
07:18 mile which per kilometre,
07:20 that's 2 minutes and
07:21 54 seconds.
07:22 [Mike] Wow, that's fast.
07:24 [René] That's incredible.
07:26 So with times like that it
07:28 sounds like you were in line
07:29 to do-- to be in the Olympics
07:31 or be an Olympic athlete.
07:33 >> Yeah, that was the goal.
07:34 I wanted to try to make the
07:35 1992 Olympics games for the
07:37 10,000 metres and...
07:39 [Mike] How did that go?
07:40 >> You know what, I got second
07:42 in the Olympic trials.
07:43 That year you had to win the
07:45 Olympic trials because nobody
07:47 had the A-standard so I lost
07:51 by a second in the sprint
07:52 and so...
07:53 But, you know, I was young and
07:55 I always-- positive attitude
07:57 and I was...
07:58 >> Yeah, how did you handle
07:59 the discouragement?
08:00 That was your goal, right?
08:01 >> Yeah, that was a big goal.
08:03 You know what, you just look
08:05 forward to other things and
08:07 you try to put it in
08:08 perspective that this is not
08:09 the end of the world and you
08:11 continue to have goals and
08:12 you know, obviously as a
08:13 Christian, too, you try to
08:15 focus on there's bigger things
08:17 than running, right?
08:18 [René] Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
08:20 >> So you were pretty young
08:22 and a few years later you were
08:25 struggling with an injury.
08:26 Do you wanna talk about that?
08:28 >> Yeah, so in 1995 in--
08:31 We were getting ready for the
08:32 national 10K Road
08:34 Championships and I was out
08:36 for a run, just a nice run
08:37 around Burnaby Lake and I hit
08:39 a stone and I sprained my
08:41 ankle quite badly.
08:43 I still wanted to run the race
08:44 which I did.
08:46 I think I came second in the
08:48 race so I did well, but...
08:50 there was something not right
08:52 after that.
08:52 I kept struggling with this
08:55 lack of feeling of stability
08:56 in my ankle.
08:57 So you try to keep training
08:59 for it, looking forward to
09:00 the-- trying to qualify for
09:01 the '96 Olympics, but...
09:05 Yeah, it was something I kept
09:06 struggling with over the next
09:08 two years and it actually
09:09 prevented me from kind of
09:11 being able to train at the
09:12 level I needed to in order to
09:13 qualify for the '96 games so I
09:15 missed out on that opportunity
09:16 as well, right?
09:17 [Mike] So you had this injury,
09:18 you turned your ankle,
09:21 what happened from that?
09:22 I know it was disappointing
09:23 not getting into the Olympics,
09:25 what was the greatest
09:26 disappointment though?
09:27 >> Well, the greatest
09:28 disappointment was by the end
09:29 of the 1997 season, it was
09:33 getting worse and worse and I
09:35 was-- racing was actually the
09:37 only good thing for it and
09:38 eventually there was no more
09:39 races to run so I got to the
09:41 point where within a week of
09:42 my last race which was in
09:44 Japan, I came home and I
09:45 wasn't able to run at all
09:46 anymore.
09:48 Couldn't even run across the
09:49 street to, you know, catch a
09:51 bus so to speak, so...
09:54 And so I'd been dealing with,
09:56 you know, one of the best
09:58 renowned sports doctors in
10:00 B.C. over the last two years
10:02 and we hadn't been able to
10:03 figure it out, but at that
10:04 point I remember him sitting
10:06 me down and saying, you know,
10:07 "I don't think you'll"
10:08 "ever run again."
10:09 And so that was a real hard
10:12 thing to hear when that's what
10:14 you love to do and it's such a
10:15 big part of your life, right?
10:16 So...
10:17 [Mike] That would be
10:18 very, very disappointing.
10:20 So you had this injury, did it
10:21 prevent you from walking?
10:23 >> No, thankfully not,
10:25 although that is something the
10:26 doctors asked me numerous
10:28 times about, but what it did
10:29 do, it's a sport-specific
10:31 focal dystonia which basically
10:32 when I run, it kind of--
10:34 there's a nerve reaction
10:36 designed to protect me from
10:37 spraining my ankle, but I
10:39 would pull my ankle in and
10:40 twist it and it was actually
10:42 hurting me, you know,
10:43 preventing me from being able
10:44 to put both...
10:46 [Mike] Go further, go forward.
10:48 >> Yeah, be able to even put
10:49 your foot down and it was
10:50 quite, it was kind of, feels
10:52 very awkward and painful at
10:53 the same time.
10:54 [Mike] Oh, I'm sure.
10:55 >> Yeah.
10:56 [René] So, Phil, how did this
10:58 injury affect your
11:00 faith in God?
11:02 Did you have some discussions
11:03 with Him about why this was
11:05 happening to you?
11:06 >> Oh for sure, yeah.
11:07 You kinda say, "Hey, God,"
11:08 "You gave me this talent,"
11:10 "why can't I use it?"
11:11 And um...
11:13 It's tough for a while, you
11:14 kind of-- I never doubted
11:16 and I never blamed God, but
11:18 I'm like, "Why don't You"
11:19 "help me get over this?"
11:20 'Cause I was trying
11:21 so many things, right?
11:22 [Mike] Yeah, yeah.
11:23 >> So hard.
11:24 >> And this was such a big
11:25 part of your life.
11:25 >> Mm-hmm, yeah.
11:26 >> You were a professional
11:27 runner.
11:28 You can see other people
11:29 running and it's not so big of
11:31 a deal to them, but to you
11:32 it's a major thing, yeah.
11:35 >> Yeah, it was taking away
11:36 obviously what I wanted to
11:37 achieve, but also long term, I
11:40 wanted to be able to run again
11:41 'cause at this point I'd done
11:43 so much of it, I wanna keep
11:44 doing this, for my health, for
11:46 my sanity, for, you know, just
11:48 for my life, so that was where
11:50 I was like, you know,
11:52 "God, why can't You let me"
11:53 "run, I don't wanna have to--"
11:54 I was riding my bike, but that
11:56 doesn't do it if you're a
11:56 runner, so...
11:58 [chuckles]
11:59 >> So when did you start
12:01 running again?
12:02 How could you get back
12:03 into it again?
12:04 >> Oh, that was a very long,
12:05 hard road and basically the
12:07 doctors said I never
12:08 would, right?
12:10 They didn't think there was a
12:11 solution, but at the same time
12:12 they said, "You know what?"
12:13 "Explore all the options or"
12:14 "avenues that you can."
12:16 At the same time keeping in
12:17 mind that you know this injury
12:19 better than anybody else
12:20 'cause this injury is not in a
12:22 textbook, this injury is,
12:23 you know...
12:24 [Mike] Specific to you.
12:24 >> Specific to me, yeah.
12:26 There's nobody else that's
12:27 really had this injury so this
12:28 is very unique.
12:29 So I did, I went to a lot of
12:31 different people to try
12:33 different things and
12:34 unfortunately it would always
12:35 end in failure so this is kind
12:37 of part of this yo-yo thing,
12:38 right, with your talk--
12:40 asking God, "Why, why?" right?
12:42 But then I was in seeing a guy
12:44 for a pair of orthotics that
12:46 they thought might help and I
12:47 saw on his wall this kind of
12:49 brace that kind of wraps the
12:51 foot for when they have
12:52 drop-foot and I said,
12:53 "I need that to run in."
12:54 >> What did that look like?
12:55 >> Well, you know, I got my
12:57 first one here, so let's just
12:59 take a look at it.
13:02 >> This is what he built
13:03 for me...
13:05 >> Wow, that's well-used.
13:06 >> Yeah, very well-used.
13:07 The difference is that he
13:09 made it with a hinge in here
13:11 because I'd be able to run
13:12 'cause the ones I saw in his
13:13 office he said you'd actually
13:15 just tear it apart if you
13:17 tried to run in it so...
13:19 But as you can see, there's,
13:21 well this one...
13:22 I had another one built after
13:23 this, but...
13:25 I put a lot of miles on this.
13:27 [Mike] I'm sure you did.
13:28 >> Yeah.
13:29 And the thing-- the key here
13:31 was though even when I first
13:32 got it, I thought, "Now I'm"
13:34 "gonna be able to come back"
13:36 "and be able to retrain this"
13:37 "nerve," which is what we're
13:38 really trying to do.
13:39 But then I remember the first
13:40 time I took it out for a run,
13:42 I came back disappointed
13:43 'cause it still did the
13:45 reaction, right?
13:47 So it hadn't cured it.
13:49 Took a little bit more
13:50 time off.
13:51 So there was this back and
13:52 forth, right?
13:53 I had this determination,
13:54 I never quit.
13:55 I still wanted to run so
13:57 I kind of thought about it,
13:58 I said, "You know what?"
13:59 "I've spent like 500 bucks"
14:01 "on this thing, let's try to"
14:03 "use this to get me back"
14:04 "to running," because at that
14:06 point everything else was out.
14:08 So what I did was I just very
14:10 slowly went to a walk/jog,
14:12 basically and I'd jog with
14:13 this on.
14:15 Slowly as I would've come
14:16 back, it was a slow process,
14:17 but I was very
14:18 determined, right?
14:20 I just didn't wanna quit and
14:21 so I kept at it, kept at it
14:23 to the point where I was able
14:24 to, you know, feel more like I
14:25 was running, but I still with
14:26 this, so I still needed this.
14:28 And then, you know, about--
14:31 a little bit later on I wanted
14:33 to try to wean myself off of
14:34 this and so I would run with
14:36 this sometimes, sometimes a
14:38 little shorter, not with it...
14:40 >> Yeah, yeah.
14:40 [Phil] Yeah.
14:41 >> Yeah, so you had-- you were
14:43 told there's no way you're
14:45 gonna run again and you were
14:46 determined; "No, I'm gonna"
14:47 "run again."
14:48 And you just kept at it.
14:50 [Phil] Yes.
14:51 >> Never gave up.
14:52 >> Yeah, I never gave up.
14:53 I mean, I could have said,
14:54 "Hey, you know what, it was"
14:55 "nice running," and just gone
14:56 on to keep cycling or
14:58 something, done something
14:59 else, but that's kind of in
15:00 my-- it was in my--
15:02 That's what makes me feel
15:04 good, right? So, yeah.
15:05 [Mike] Yes, absolutely.
15:06 >> So how often do you
15:08 run now each week?
15:11 >> I run-- I try to get out
15:12 six days a week for sure.
15:14 Usually I run in the morning
15:16 before I come to work.
15:17 >> Where do you like to run
15:18 the most?
15:19 >> Oh, I love the parks here
15:20 in the Fraser Valley, Campbell
15:21 Valley, Aldergrove Lake,
15:23 Fort-to-Fort Trail, but often
15:25 because, you know what,
15:26 running is a convenient thing,
15:27 it's easy to do, I often will
15:28 just even do it from my home
15:30 or from the store here,
15:31 maybe I come early and I head
15:32 out for runs so...
15:33 >> So, Phil, you're the
15:35 general manager of
15:36 Peninsula Runners.
15:37 What's the favourite thing
15:39 about your job?
15:41 >> You know what, it's trying
15:42 to motivate people into a
15:44 healthy, active
15:45 lifestyle, right?
15:46 So I'm not here to sell shoes,
15:48 I mean, that doesn't really
15:49 interest me.
15:51 I've actually, it's int--
15:52 some of the reps that I deal
15:53 with, they're really--
15:55 they're shoe guys, they like
15:55 the shoes.
15:56 And then, I mean obviously I
15:58 value a good shoe, but that's,
16:00 the shoe is the tool that
16:01 allows me to do what I want to
16:02 do and that's what I want the
16:04 customers--
16:04 I don't want them to see the
16:06 shoe as what they need as it
16:08 is the running or the living
16:09 healthy, right?
16:11 So I want to sell people on
16:12 running, sell people on being
16:13 active and healthy.
16:15 Sell them on that and make
16:16 them want to do that and
16:18 create it as a healthy
16:19 lifestyle, right?
16:21 [Mike] A healthy lifestyle,
16:21 very important and one of the
16:23 things that we like to do is
16:25 give people opportunities to
16:27 learn when it comes to a
16:29 healthy lifestyle.
16:30 So we're going to just take a
16:33 little bit of a break and look
16:34 at a recipe in the kitchen so
16:38 we're going to look at
16:39 Experiencing Life in the
16:40 Kitchen right now and they are
16:41 going to give us a recipe on
16:43 one of the most important
16:44 meals of the day
16:45 and that's breakfast.
16:46 So let's cut to that right now
16:48 and then we'll come
16:49 right back.
16:50 [Phil] Sounds good.
16:53 >> Hi, my name's Ceri and this
16:54 is my friend, Becky.
16:56 >> And we are passionate about
16:57 health and showing people how
16:58 we can make food taste great.
17:00 >> Absolutely.
17:02 We're here experiencing life in
17:03 the kitchen and we're gonna
17:04 show you how to make something
17:05 called "overnight oats."
17:07 It's our favourite go-to
17:09 breakfast on the road.
17:10 >> It's so fast, it's quick,
17:11 it's easy, I love it and you
17:13 can just make it right the
17:15 night before and have it ready
17:16 to go when you need it.
17:17 >> Yeah, so all you need is
17:18 three simple ingredients or
17:19 four: oats, milk,
17:22 seeds, fruit.
17:23 You can make it as simple or
17:25 as complicated as you want.
17:26 >> Exactly.
17:27 >> So let's dive in!
17:28 [Ceri] Well, the base of this
17:29 recipe is oats.
17:30 Becky, do you mind telling me
17:32 what's so amazing, I know
17:33 there's fibre in here...
17:34 >> Yeah, so there's two types
17:35 of fibre actually.
17:36 So there's soluble fibre
17:38 which helps to lower your
17:39 cholesterol levels and
17:40 stabilize your blood sugar and
17:42 then the insoluble actually
17:43 helps keep you regular.
17:44 [Ceri] Wow!
17:45 [Becky] So that's what's
17:46 really awesome about that.
17:47 [Ceri] That's so cool!
17:48 Awesome!
17:48 So we just do one cup of oats
17:51 in our Mason jar normally,
17:52 right, and we do one cup of
17:55 liquid or mixture of milk and
17:58 yogurt, right?
17:58 >> Mm-hmm.
17:59 >> So this is oat milk.
18:01 It's my new favourite milk,
18:02 it's amazing.
18:03 I know a lot of people use soy
18:04 milk and almond milk...
18:06 >> I love almond and soy,
18:07 personally, but any plant milk
18:09 you have works.
18:10 >> Yeah, so...even sesame.
18:11 Sesame milk is pretty cool.
18:13 >> Oh, that would be
18:13 really good.
18:14 >> So I just put that in.
18:15 This is 3/4 cups of milk
18:18 and then we're gonna also add
18:20 some yogurt.
18:22 Yogurt makes it...
18:22 [Becky] So good.
18:23 [Ceri] So rich.
18:24 >> And has so many great
18:26 nutrients, too.
18:26 >> Yeah.
18:27 >> So we have all our
18:28 probiotics in here.
18:29 And actually the oats serve as
18:31 a prebiotic which actually
18:32 feeds your natural gut
18:34 probiotics so it's a
18:35 double-whammy here.
18:37 >> So I put in about a 1/4 cup
18:39 or just a big dollop,
18:41 scoop, yep.
18:42 >> Perfect.
18:43 >> Throw that in, mix it in
18:44 with my oats.
18:45 [Becky] Or...
18:46 [Ceri] Or what?
18:47 [Becky] You could make it
18:48 even faster.
18:49 You can close the lid and give
18:49 it a quick shake.
18:50 That's what I like to do if I
18:51 just don't feel like using a
18:52 spoon.
18:53 I mean, it all works.
18:54 >> She's smart!
18:55 >> Yeah, just another way.
18:56 >> Alright, I guess before I
18:57 finish stirring,
18:58 I need to add...
18:59 >> We should add some other...
19:00 >> My nuts and my seeds.
19:01 We're actually gonna use
19:02 hemp seeds.
19:03 Hemp seeds are
19:04 amazing protein.
19:05 >> So much, they're actually a
19:06 complete protein.
19:07 >> Yeah.
19:07 >> So they have all nine
19:08 essential amino acids.
19:10 So they are just a powerhouse
19:12 of nutrition and they also
19:13 have our omega 3's and
19:14 omega 6's, so...
19:15 >> So great.
19:16 And then chia seeds.
19:17 So about a tablespoon of each.
19:19 One of each and again...
19:20 [Becky] And we have our
19:21 calcium, we have our
19:23 antioxidants...
19:24 You also have protein in the
19:25 chia seeds as well so you have
19:27 all sorts.
19:27 >> So good.
19:28 >> And if you don't have those
19:29 at home, but you have
19:31 pumpkin seeds or flax seeds,
19:33 you can put any other seeds in.
19:35 We just really love these two
19:36 and the chia seeds actually
19:38 help give it some bulk and
19:39 and kinda help thicken it up,
19:40 too, with the oats, so...
19:41 [Ceri] Yep, for sure,
19:42 for sure.
19:44 And if you like yours sweet,
19:45 you can add just a little,
19:46 you know, about a teaspoon or
19:48 two teaspoons of maple syrup
19:50 in there and um...
19:52 [Becky] My husband likes his
19:53 with it, but...
19:53 [Ceri] Yeah, I'm sure.
19:54 Most people do.
19:56 [Becky] Yeah it's really good.
19:57 [Ceri] We add fruit.
19:57 So today we're gonna add some
19:58 blueberries and raspberries
20:00 you can add cherries, whatever
20:01 you have around.
20:02 [Becky] Frozen, fresh...
20:03 [Ceri] Yep.
20:04 [Becky] Doesn't matter,
20:05 whatever you have.
20:05 [Ceri] It all works.
20:06 [Becky] Yep.
20:07 [Ceri] So after you're done
20:08 mixing or shaking it,
20:09 just put it on top.
20:11 [Becky] And you can even make
20:11 a fruit sauce, too.
20:12 So sometimes I'll have made a
20:13 fruit sauce already and I'm
20:14 like, "Oh, I don't have any"
20:15 "fresh fruit or frozen, but I"
20:16 "already made some and it's"
20:17 "been in the fridge for a"
20:18 "few days."
20:19 That's fine, put that on top.
20:20 [Ceri] So smart.
20:21 [Becky] Perfect, too.
20:21 [Ceri] That's so smart.
20:22 So then all you do is pop the
20:23 lid on and then what I do
20:25 which I think is really nice,
20:26 is I grab a string, a spoon,
20:30 and a napkin so that if I'm
20:32 giving this to one of my
20:33 friends as they're leaving
20:34 early in the morning from my
20:35 place or just myself, if I do
20:37 it like this, tie it all
20:39 together, then I know when I
20:41 grab it out of the fridge in
20:42 the morning,
20:43 it's all together.
20:44 I don't have to pack this
20:45 little bag,
20:46 I just have it all here.
20:47 It's a no-brainer.
20:49 You just grab it and go.
20:50 It's so easy and it fits in your
20:51 cupholder.
20:52 [Becky] It does. It's great.
20:53 >> I love texture in my food,
20:55 it's really important so I
20:56 love fresh granola.
20:58 So I eat it down a little ways
20:59 and then I put a little Ziploc
21:01 bag with granola and pour that
21:03 in as I'm eating it.
21:04 >> Totally.
21:05 >> And so this is a granola
21:07 that I love to use, it's from
21:08 One Degree.
21:10 You use One Degree products
21:11 I know...
21:12 >> I love their stuff.
21:13 You know exactly what you're
21:14 getting, it's non-GMO and it's
21:15 totally family-friendly.
21:17 >> So when I eat this for
21:18 breakfast, I feel good,
21:19 I'm ready to go.
21:20 The other thing I do is I
21:21 spend time in the word of God
21:24 because I wanna know who my
21:25 Creator is and who He's
21:27 creating me to be.
21:28 So doing that and then
21:29 grabbing my breakfast, I'm
21:31 fuelled for my day, I'm ready
21:32 to go, I can work hard for a
21:33 long time and...
21:35 Yeah, that's my morning
21:36 routine, so...
21:37 >> That's awesome!
21:38 >> I just hope for you guys
21:39 that you'll hopefully learn
21:41 something today and...
21:43 [Becky] Try it out at
21:43 home yourself.
21:44 [Ceri] Yeah!
21:45 You're gonna love it.
21:47 >> Wow, that's a great recipe,
21:48 especially for a runner or
21:50 somebody who's really busy,
21:51 you know, and don't have a lot
21:53 of time, you need to get a
21:54 good nutritious breakfast,
21:55 that's the most important meal
21:57 of the day for everybody,
21:58 especially for athletes and
22:00 I mean, it's packed with
22:01 carbohydrates and energy for
22:03 life for you so..
22:05 [Mike] Grab it and go.
22:06 >> Grab it and go, yeah.
22:07 >> So here you are in a store
22:09 where you're not just selling
22:10 shoes, you're selling health.
22:11 So do you ever share your
22:12 faith with customers?
22:14 >> Yeah, you know what, I do
22:16 get an opportunity once
22:17 in a while.
22:17 I try to keep though
22:19 politics and religion somewhat
22:22 separate, right, so I don't
22:24 wanna come over bringing it up
22:27 myself, but I do get customers
22:29 that will instigate with me
22:32 and maybe some of them--
22:33 I know that, you know what,
22:34 and I have a lot of running
22:35 groups here, too, and people
22:38 know that I'm a Christian and
22:40 then through the latest
22:42 pandemic, I've had an
22:44 opportunity to--
22:45 We always-- I always email the
22:47 group and I've been emailing
22:48 them twice a week giving them
22:50 positive messages, never
22:53 mentioning anything negative.
22:55 Wasn't anything ever negative
22:56 in those emails and just
22:57 trying to motivate people to get
22:59 outside and to stay healthy,
23:01 to keep their immune system,
23:02 keep them going and I've had,
23:04 lots of them actually, have
23:06 commented to me, you know,
23:07 thanking me,
23:08 "Hey, thanks for your emails,"
23:09 "that was the thing that was"
23:10 "helping me get through those"
23:11 "really glum days where"
23:13 "everybody was telling me to"
23:14 "stay home and not do"
23:16 "anything," right? But...
23:17 >> So, before we end, do you
23:20 have any Bible verses or any
23:22 Bible promises that you would
23:24 like to share with us that
23:25 just encouraged you?
23:26 >> Yeah, well, you know,
23:28 during the injury and the
23:29 fight back, certainly it was
23:31 Philippians 4:13, right?
23:36 [Phil] So that was most
23:38 definitely crucial to me and
23:40 kind of going, even though the
23:41 medical professionals are
23:42 telling me--
23:43 I was told I would never run
23:44 again, "Well, no."
23:45 "God says I can."
23:47 So...and I was able to find
23:48 that pathway.
23:50 So to me, it was, you know,
23:51 "Never give up, never give"
23:52 "up, never quit."
23:53 And then certainly I've
23:54 always, as an athlete, I've
23:55 always liked, you know,
23:57 I Corinthians where Apostle
23:59 Paul talks about the race of
24:00 life and...
24:02 [Mike] I Corinthians 9.
24:03 [Phil] Yeah, yeah and I've
24:04 always enjoyed that and I can
24:06 relate to that and how
24:08 you have to train and you have
24:09 to have discipline.
24:10 So running has taught me a lot
24:12 of those things and certainly
24:14 never giving up so the race of
24:15 life, right?
24:17 I mean, and then I think
24:18 that's where the apostle Paul
24:19 was going, you know, there's
24:20 this race and these guys
24:21 prepare, but we in our-- the
24:23 race of life and...
24:24 Yeah.
24:25 >> This is long term.
24:26 [Phil] This is long term, right?
24:27 >> This is eternal life that
24:28 we're looking for.
24:29 [Phil] Yeah, yeah.
24:30 >> So you're running in that
24:30 race, you know what it means
24:31 to run in a race, you know
24:32 what it means to train.
24:34 So as Christians, we're
24:36 training and we're trusting
24:38 God and He's giving us the
24:39 strength to do that.
24:41 >> Yeah, and you know what, we
24:41 have to have faith, right?
24:43 So...and we don't always get
24:44 that answer, right?
24:45 I didn't get that answer
24:47 often, I didn't know whether
24:48 I'd be able to run again, but
24:49 I always had faith that I
24:50 could get beyond it and the
24:51 same thing, you know, we as
24:52 Christians, maybe sometimes
24:53 there's challenges that come
24:55 up, right?
24:55 But we have to have faith we
24:56 can get beyond whatever that
24:57 challenge is.
24:58 I know in the last little
24:59 while, you know, me and my
25:01 wife, we've been able to get
25:02 through some of the challenges
25:03 of the pandemic as a face and
25:04 it's a-- we have chosen to go
25:06 closer to God.
25:07 [René,] Well, that's wonderful.
25:08 Thank you so much, Phil.
25:10 Could we ask you to have the
25:11 closing prayer for us, please?
25:13 >> For sure, yeah.
25:16 Dear Heavenly Father we thank
25:17 You for bringing us all
25:18 together here in
25:20 Langley, British Columbia.
25:22 We thank You for the guiding
25:24 that You have done in my life
25:25 and I pray that there is
25:29 somebody out there that will
25:30 maybe be able to relate to
25:33 some of the challenges that I
25:34 faced and went through
25:36 or maybe they're different
25:37 challenges, but dear God,
25:39 I pray that they will see that
25:41 You are the answer and that
25:43 You can help them.
25:44 Even though sometimes the
25:45 answer we get is maybe not the
25:46 answer we're thinking we want,
25:49 but dear God we've got to
25:50 continue to have faith in You,
25:52 knowing that the race of life
25:55 is the most important race to
25:57 get to the finish line and to
25:59 have that strong faith in You.
26:02 So, dear God, I pray that You're
26:04 with this country, You're with
26:06 the people of this country,
26:07 that You'll encourage people
26:09 to look for You, to look for
26:12 answers in these confusing
26:14 times and to keep them healthy
26:18 and strong and if there's any
26:20 way that we can help, let us
26:22 be the light in their
26:24 community that we can help
26:25 them stay healthy and strong,
26:26 through running, through
26:28 exercise, through--
26:30 for their minds so that they
26:31 can think clearly and think
26:32 about You.
26:34 So, dear God, again, I thank
26:35 You for everything You've done
26:36 for me and I pray that You're
26:39 with the rest of the people in
26:40 this great country of Canada.
26:41 Thank You, very much.
26:43 In Your name, amen.
26:44 [Mike and René] Amen.
26:45 >> Phil, thank You so much for
26:46 sharing your story.
26:47 Very inspirational.
26:49 >> Well, thank you for coming
26:50 here and telling my story.
26:52 I mean, to me it's a bit of an
26:53 old story, but I hope it's
26:55 something that people can
26:55 still gain value out of.
26:57 [Mike] Always encouraging.
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