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00:44 >> Hello and thank you for 00:45 taking the time to join us on 00:47 It Is Written Canada. 00:49 You know, many people are 00:51 concerned about eating 00:53 healthy, but finding a 00:56 credible source for dietary 00:58 information suited to someone 01:00 who is not a healthcare 01:02 professional can be very 01:04 challenging, there's all kinds 01:06 of fad diets out there. 01:07 Who do you believe? 01:10 >> Our guest today is 01:11 Dr. George Cho. 01:13 Dr. Cho is a licensed 01:15 naturopathic doctor who 01:16 practices in the Greater 01:18 Toronto Area. 01:20 He also works in the exercise 01:22 physiology department at the 01:24 Cleveland Clinic Canada, he is 01:27 a member of the American 01:29 College of Lifestyle Science 01:31 and the Canadian Society for 01:33 Exercise Physiology. 01:35 His practice focus is on 01:38 lifestyle medicine. 01:40 >> Dr. Cho is also part of a 01:41 community of Christians known 01:43 for their good health and 01:45 longevity, called Seventh-day 01:47 Adventists and throughout the 01:48 world, they are classified as 01:50 one of the Blue Zones because 01:53 they are one of the world's 01:55 longest living people groups. 01:58 Interestingly, they get many 02:00 of their health principles 02:02 from the writings of a woman 02:04 who wrote so prolifically 02:06 and her name was Ellen White. 02:09 [René] Today we are going to 02:11 ask Dr. George Cho to explain 02:14 to us whether the writings of 02:15 Ellen G. White are credible 02:17 when it comes to the area 02:19 of health. 02:21 >> So, Dr. Cho, thank you for 02:22 joining us on It Is Written 02:24 Canada, it's always a pleasure 02:25 to have you here with us. 02:26 >> Thank you for having me. 02:28 >> So, Dr. Cho, can you tell 02:31 us who are the Seventh-day 02:33 Adventists and who is 02:35 Ellen G. White? 02:37 >> So Seventh-day Adventists 02:38 are, it's a global community 02:40 of Christians and some of the 02:42 unique features is that they 02:45 worship on Saturday, but they 02:48 also have a strong emphasis on 02:50 health and they believe that 02:53 health is very important and 02:55 worship to God and they get a 02:58 lot of their health principles 02:59 from Ellen G. White. 03:01 And Ellen G. White is a woman 03:03 who lived in the mid-1800's to 03:05 the early 1900's and 03:07 Adventists believe that she 03:09 was God's messenger to give 03:11 guidance and instruction. 03:13 And one of the main roles that 03:15 she had was in writing and she 03:18 wrote on a lot of different 03:19 topics, but especially on the 03:21 topic of health, she wrote a 03:22 lot and we believe that those 03:25 writings are inspired by God. 03:29 >> So, Dr. Cho, you are a 03:30 doctor, so looking at the 03:32 research in this area of 03:34 nutrition, is what she says a 03:37 credible source? 03:40 >> Even more so now. 03:41 So when you look at the 03:43 scientific evidence that's 03:44 coming out in the last few 03:46 decades, it confirms so much 03:48 of what she's written about 03:50 the topic of human nutrition. 03:51 So when she was writing back 03:53 in the day, you know, the 03:55 doctors were a little bit 03:57 skeptical and understandably 03:59 so, the science hadn't caught 04:00 up and now it's definitely 04:02 catching up and it's really 04:03 confirming a lot of what she 04:05 wrote about human health and 04:07 especially nutrition. 04:08 [Mike] Mm-hmm. 04:09 So let's look at something 04:11 that she wrote about. 04:12 So one of the things that she 04:13 really went into was 04:14 eliminating flesh-eating or 04:17 eating meat from your diet so 04:19 I'm just gonna look at one of 04:20 the statements there, or a 04:22 couple of the statements and 04:23 this is from a book called 04:24 Ministry of Healing. 04:26 So it says, "Flesh was never" 04:28 "the best food, but its use" 04:29 "is now doubly objectionable" 04:32 "since disease in animals is" 04:34 "rapidly increasing." 04:35 And here's another one. 04:37 It says, "Grains, fruits," 04:38 "nuts, vegetables constitute" 04:41 "the diet chosen for us by" 04:43 "our Creator." 04:45 "These foods prepared in as" 04:47 "simple and natural a manner" 04:49 "as possible are the most" 04:51 "healthful and nourishing." 04:53 So would you say that that is 04:55 accurate in terms of the 04:57 scientific research that we 04:58 see today? 05:00 >> If you look at the American 05:01 College of Lifestyle Medicine, 05:02 that's not an Adventist 05:03 organization, this is 05:05 thousands of doctors and 05:07 researchers and they have what 05:10 are called six pillars of 05:11 lifestyle medicine. 05:12 Stress management, good social 05:14 connections, sleep, avoiding 05:17 toxic substances like alcohol 05:19 and tobacco, and the sixth one 05:20 is nutrition. 05:21 And for the nutrition advice 05:23 they say whole foods, 05:25 plant-based eating pattern. 05:27 So specifically whole-foods, 05:28 plant-based. 05:29 And why'd they do that? 05:30 They didn't read Ellen White, 05:31 they're reading the science 05:33 and the science is compelling 05:34 them to conclude that a 05:36 whole-foods, plant-based diet 05:38 is really the best way to go. 05:39 So I believe that it's 05:40 extremely incredible. 05:41 And if you look at the 05:43 different iterations of the 05:44 Canada Food Guide, right? 05:46 Way back in the day they had a 05:49 section called "meat" then 05:50 they had a section for dairy. 05:52 Then they switched that to 05:54 "meat and alternatives," 05:56 "dairy and alternatives," 05:57 "milk and alternatives." 05:58 Now in the most recent 06:00 iteration of the food guide, 06:01 they completely eliminated 06:03 meat and dairy and now they're 06:04 just grouped together with 06:06 other plant proteins. 06:08 So you can see that-- and what 06:09 are they doing? 06:10 They're not reading Ellen 06:12 White, they're just reading 06:13 the science. 06:13 Even with that alone, it's 06:15 compelling them even to move 06:17 their recommendations toward a 06:19 more plant-based eating 06:20 pattern so when you look at 06:22 the science today, it's 06:24 becoming very more clear that 06:25 plant-based eating is really 06:26 the way to go. 06:27 [Mike] And that might be a new 06:28 thing for some people 06:30 listening to that right now. 06:31 They might be thinking to 06:32 themselves, "Hey, I thought" 06:34 "you get protein from meat," 06:36 "but you're saying you can" 06:37 "get protein from plants." 06:39 >> In the Canada Food Guide, 06:41 they specifically say, 06:43 "Choose plant-based proteins." 06:45 It's very interesting, it's 06:46 very different, right? 06:47 So, they're not-- in the 06:49 Canada Food Guide they don't 06:50 say go completely plant-based, 06:52 right, they don't say that, 06:53 but they say, "choose." 06:54 If you're gonna choose, 06:55 try to go for a more 06:56 plant-based sources. 06:58 So these are not Adventists, 07:00 these are-- this is the Health 07:01 Canada, right, this is the 07:02 Canadian Food Guide. 07:04 So it's becoming abundantly 07:06 clear that you can get most of 07:07 your nutrition from 07:09 plant-based foods, 07:10 including protein. 07:12 >> So, Dr. Cho, it seems that 07:14 Ellen G. White said that 07:17 eating flesh or eating meat 07:19 is objectionable which means 07:22 that you could be saying that 07:26 eating meat and eating 07:27 vegetables are both healthy, 07:30 but eating plants is more 07:33 healthier, but she's actually 07:35 saying that eating meat 07:38 is unhealthy. 07:39 >> That's right. 07:40 >> So what's your viewpoint 07:42 on this? 07:43 >> Yeah, I think she's 07:44 totally accurate. 07:45 If you look at the scientific 07:46 evidence today, I believe it's 07:48 really confirming that. 07:49 So for example a lot of people 07:51 think that type 2 diabetes is 07:53 just sugar, right, but it's 07:55 not true. 07:56 I mean, sugar is an issue, 07:57 right, but they've found 07:58 evidence that the more meat 08:00 you consume, the higher your 08:02 risk of type 2 diabetes and 08:04 there's several reasons 08:05 for that. 08:06 For example, meat is high in 08:07 heme iron, which is a 08:08 pro-oxine. 08:09 It causes oxidation, causes 08:10 inflammation in the body. 08:11 So meat-consumption is linked 08:13 with type 2 diabetes. 08:14 Meat consumption is also 08:15 linked with increased risk of 08:16 cardiovascular diseases, 08:17 right? 08:18 Coronary artery disease, 08:20 stroke, and even in the realm 08:22 of cancer, you know, the World 08:25 Health Organization has an arm 08:26 called the International 08:28 Agency for Research on Cancer 08:31 and they classify different 08:32 things as carcinogens and 08:34 processed meat is a group one 08:36 carcinogen. 08:37 Group one is a definite, known 08:40 cancer-causing agent. 08:42 So processed meat is a group 08:43 one, red meat is a group two 08:46 carcinogen, that means it 08:47 probably causes cancer. 08:50 So the evidence is becoming 08:52 more and more clear that 08:53 populations that tend to eat 08:55 more meat in the diet, the 08:57 risk of chronic diseases, the 08:58 prevalence of diseases is 08:59 going up, right? 09:01 Whereas if you look at a 09:02 population where they don't 09:03 eat as much meat, the chronic 09:04 disease rates are much lower, 09:06 right? 09:07 So that tells you that there's 09:08 something about eating meat, 09:09 you know, whereas whole 09:10 grains, beans, nuts, fruits, 09:12 vegetables every day, no one's 09:14 gonna argue that 09:15 that's healthy. 09:16 But then with meat it gets 09:17 kinda iffy, everyone's like, 09:18 "OK, how much is enough and--" 09:20 right? 09:20 So it tells you that's 09:21 because there's some health 09:22 detriment, right? 09:24 The question is, so if we take 09:25 out meat, can we adequately 09:27 meet our nutritional needs, 09:29 right, and the answer is yes. 09:31 And I have here right now the 09:33 position paper statement of 09:35 the Academy of Nutrition and 09:37 Dietetics, so that represents 09:39 the dietitians in America, so 09:40 this is a very credible 09:42 organization. 09:43 They have a position paper and 09:44 a position paper is when 09:45 basically a bunch of experts 09:47 get together and they say, 09:48 they look at the research and 09:49 they say, "this is our" 09:49 "position," OK. 09:51 And they have a position paper 09:52 on vegetarian diets 09:53 specifically and I wanna read 09:54 to you their-- just a summary, 09:57 It says, "It is the position" 09:59 "of the Academy that" 10:00 "appropriately planned" 10:02 "vegetarian, including vegan" 10:04 "diets, are healthful," 10:06 "nutritionally adequate and" 10:07 "may provide health benefits" 10:09 "for the prevention and" 10:10 "treatment of certain" 10:11 "diseases." 10:12 "These diets are appropriate" 10:13 "for all stages of the life" 10:15 "cycle, including pregnancy," 10:18 "lactation, infancy," 10:19 "childhood, adolescence," 10:21 "older adulthood," 10:22 "and for athletes." 10:24 So here, this is a very 10:25 credible organization with a 10:27 position paper saying very 10:29 clearly you can meet your 10:30 nutritional needs at all 10:32 stages; pregnancy, lactation, 10:34 childhood, and older 10:37 adulthood, even athletes, 10:39 right? 10:39 So...and what's making them 10:41 say that? 10:41 Well, it's the evidence. 10:42 There's nothing that-- you 10:44 don't need to be on a 10:45 meat-eating diet to get all 10:47 your nutritional needs. 10:48 You can be on a plant-based 10:49 eating pattern to meet your 10:51 nutrition. 10:52 I mean, the Canadian Pediatric 10:54 Society, so this is not like a 10:55 bunch of moms that got 10:56 together, this is 10:58 pediatricians and they have a 11:00 position paper, similar to 11:02 this, on plant-based eating 11:03 for children. 11:04 They say almost-- it's almost 11:05 exactly the same, they say 11:06 for all stages of childhood. 11:08 Plant-based eating, like 11:10 vegetarian and vegan diets, 11:11 can meet their needs. 11:13 So it's a-- things are 11:15 shifting in the medical and 11:17 the health world and they're 11:19 recognizing plant-based eating 11:20 is-- you can do it, for sure. 11:23 [Mike] Absolutely. 11:24 >> So, Dr. Cho, Ellen G. 11:26 White also suggests that we 11:28 need to keep our meals as 11:30 simple and as natural as 11:32 possible. 11:34 So that seems like she's 11:36 suggesting that we need to eat 11:38 a lot less processed foods. 11:40 Is that correct? 11:41 >> So again, that demonstrates 11:42 how far she was in advance of 11:44 the science, right, 'cause 11:46 right now scientists are 11:48 realizing that ultra-processed 11:49 food, that's the word that 11:50 they use in the research, 11:51 ultra-processed food is 11:53 detrimental to health, right, 11:54 and she was saying that way 11:55 back in the day. 11:56 She was talking about how we 11:58 should be eating whole wheat 11:59 instead of refined grains, 12:01 right, and she was saying that 12:02 eating too much cakes, 12:04 jellies, custards, and that 12:05 type of thing wasn't 12:06 healthful for you. 12:07 She also spoke out against 12:09 cheese which is a very highly 12:10 processed dairy product, 12:12 right, that cheese is not very 12:13 good for you. 12:14 So again, even in that area, 12:17 she's really well advanced of 12:19 her time and, like I said, 12:21 when you go back to the 12:22 American College of Lifestyle 12:23 Medicine, the words they that 12:24 words they use is 12:25 "whole foods, plant-based," 12:28 right, so basically exactly 12:30 what she's saying, minimally 12:32 processed, plant-based foods. 12:34 >> So, friends, you might be 12:35 listening to Dr. Cho and 12:37 thinking to yourself, "How" 12:39 "can I possibly eat a" 12:41 "plant-based diet that" 12:42 "really tastes good?" 12:44 Well, if you go to our website 12:46 at itiswrittencanada. ca, you 12:49 can find lots of cooking shows 12:52 where we share with you lots 12:56 of plant-based recipes and how 12:58 to prepare those recipes. 13:01 >> Yes, and right now we want 13:03 to share with you a recipe for 13:05 making soy- and gluten-free 13:07 sprouted chorizo for tacos, 13:09 nachos, and burritos. 13:11 That sounds yummy, doesn't it? 13:13 >> Sounds really good. 13:14 >> So take a look at this. 13:16 >> Welcome, friends! 13:17 We're here experiencing life 13:19 in the kitchen. 13:20 I'm Vanessa. 13:21 >> And I'm Mary. 13:22 >> I'm Nico. 13:23 >> And we're gonna be 13:24 making something really 13:25 special today. 13:26 >> Yes, we're gonna be 13:27 sharing a chorizo recipe 13:28 with you today. 13:29 >> So what is chorizo? 13:31 >> So chorizo is a Mexican 13:32 sausage and it has a lot of 13:34 flavours and it's used in a 13:36 variety of different ways, but 13:38 today we're gonna be making a 13:39 plant-based version of that 13:41 using the same spices that are 13:44 traditionally used in chorizo, 13:46 but using it with garbanzos 13:48 and lentils to have a 13:50 whole-foods, plant-based 13:52 chorizo. 13:53 >> Wow, that sounds great! 13:55 So let's get started. 13:57 >> OK, well, first we're 13:58 going to start off making 13:59 our adobo sauce. 14:01 So the sauce is what's gonna 14:02 give it all that flavour. 14:03 We've got lots of spices and 14:05 so we're gonna blend it all up 14:07 in the blender to make 14:09 our sauce. 14:10 So our spices include 14:12 a tablespoon of the dried 14:14 guajillo powder, a quarter 14:16 teaspoon of cinnamon, 14:18 a quarter teaspoon of ground 14:20 clove, a teaspoon of cumin, 14:23 a teaspoon of oregano, 14:24 half a teaspoon of thyme, 14:26 two teaspoons of paprika, 14:28 two tablespoons of smoked 14:30 paprika, and a tablespoon 14:32 of salt. 14:33 K, so we're gonna-- if you'll 14:35 put our spices in the blender 14:38 along with the-- two of the 14:40 cloves of garlic. 14:43 >> Mmm, I like garlic. 14:44 >> Mm-hmm...yes. 14:48 >> And then we're gonna add 14:51 the water. 14:52 >> How much water is that? 14:54 >> This is about half a cup, 14:55 I may need a little more, 14:57 we'll see. 14:58 And then if you could do two 15:00 tablespoons of oil, please. 15:01 >> OK. 15:02 [Mary] This is avocado oil 15:03 that we're using today. 15:04 [Vanessa] That's right. 15:06 Because it's good with 15:07 high heat. 15:08 [Mary] Mm-hmm. 15:09 So now we'll pop this on 15:11 and blend it up. 15:13 [Nico] Put on the lid. 15:15 [blender whirring] 15:22 >> OK, so what do we do next? 15:24 >> So we'll go ahead and 15:26 process the garbanzos and the 15:28 lentils to make the actual 15:30 meat portion. 15:31 >> OK. 15:33 >> These garbanzos and lentils 15:34 will need to be soaked 15:36 overnight, ideally for about 15:37 24 hours. 15:39 You need two cups of garbanzos 15:42 and one cup of the lentils. 15:46 So we'll put those in and if, 15:51 Nico, if you'll just pulse it 15:52 a few times for me. 15:54 [processor whirring] 15:57 OK, so I think this is ready 15:59 to go into the bowl. 16:00 >> There you go, Nico. 16:01 >> Alright, so I'm gonna dump 16:03 this, you can see that it's 16:04 crumbly, it still has some 16:06 texture, it's not pulverized 16:07 at all. 16:08 Can you put a heaping 16:09 tablespoon of the oat flour? 16:11 >> OK, there we go. 16:14 >> Alright, so if you'll mix 16:16 that up and then if you'll 16:17 bring back the adobo sauce. 16:20 We'll also want to at this 16:21 point add in the sauce. 16:27 OK, and just mix that in. 16:32 Yeah, you want the sauce to 16:34 evenly coat all of the 16:37 garbanzos and the lentils. 16:39 OK, so this is ready to go on 16:40 the stove now. 16:42 >> OK. 16:43 [lively music] 17:01 [food sizzling] 17:07 [lively music continues] 17:20 [Vanessa] Oh, it smells 17:21 so good. 17:29 >> So here we have our final 17:31 product, we put our chorizo 17:33 into some tortillas and 17:34 we are ready for 17:35 taco Tuesday! 17:36 So excited. 17:38 And you can also use these 17:40 chorizo on top of pizza with 17:41 some pineapple and-- 17:43 Or anywhere you use meat 17:46 crumbles, really. 17:47 >> Like nachos... 17:48 >> Yeah, nachos, yeah. 17:49 >> That sounds so good. 17:50 >> Now can we eat them? 17:52 >> (giggles) Sure thing. 17:55 >> Looked like a pretty 17:56 good recipe. 17:57 So for a plant-based recipe, 17:58 what do you think about that? 18:00 >> It's amazing, I mean a lot 18:01 of people, they say to me, you 18:03 know, "Is plant-based eating" 18:05 "just eating salads?" 18:06 I think that really 18:07 demonstrates it's not. 18:09 I mean, salads are part of it, 18:10 but it's way more than that. 18:12 You can be so creative with 18:14 most cuisines out there and 18:16 really create delicious, 18:17 healthy food. 18:18 >> Absolutely. 18:19 So one of the things I find 18:20 fascinating, we've been 18:22 talking about Ellen White and 18:23 what she says and how we can 18:25 verify that from science. 18:26 Let's look at another 18:27 statement that she makes and 18:29 that is about timing in terms 18:31 of when we eat. 18:33 So just a statement I'm gonna 18:35 read here. 18:36 It says, "Another pernicious" 18:37 "habit," or a harmful habit, 18:39 "is that of eating just" 18:40 "before bedtime." 18:42 "As a result of eating late" 18:43 "suppers, the digestive" 18:45 "process is continued through" 18:48 "the sleeping hours, but" 18:50 "though the stomach works" 18:52 "constantly, its work is not" 18:55 "properly accomplished." 18:56 Here's another one. 18:57 It says, "The practice of" 18:59 "eating only two meals a day" 19:01 "is generally found to be" 19:03 "beneficial to health, yet" 19:05 "under some circumstances," 19:06 "persons may require," if 19:08 they're working really hard I 19:09 guess, "a third meal." 19:11 So now this seems to be quite 19:13 counter to what a lot of 19:15 people are living in our 19:16 country here in Canada. 19:18 Is she accurate here? 19:20 >> Absolutely. 19:21 I'm pretty sure some of 19:23 your viewers at least have 19:24 heard of intermittent fasting 19:25 and that's basically the idea 19:27 that you eat it within a 19:28 certain window of time and you 19:30 fast the rest of the time so 19:32 you extend the fasting hours, 19:33 you shorten the eating window. 19:35 And when you look at the 19:36 evidence, it's not just 19:38 time-restricted feeding, but 19:40 it's also-- there is evidence 19:41 for early time-restricted 19:43 feeding. 19:44 >> OK, like early in the day? 19:45 >> Exactly. 19:46 So for example, they did a 19:47 study, they ate-- they got the 19:48 subjects to eat at 8:00 to 19:50 2:00, so the last meal was at 19:51 2:00 PM, right? 19:53 Versus another group that did 19:55 8:00 to 8:00, right. 19:57 And the ones that did early 19:58 time-restricted feeding, their 19:59 blood-sugar control was 20:01 better, their weight-control 20:02 was better, they had 20:03 improvements in their 20:04 blood-pressure. 20:06 It's amazing how those studies 20:08 have confirming what she's 20:09 saying 'cause she promotes 20:10 eating two meals earlier in 20:12 the day and not eating late at 20:13 night like you just read. 20:15 So a lot of people have to 20:16 realize that our digestive 20:17 system works on the 20:18 circadian rhythm. 20:20 So that is basically certain 20:22 processes are optimized at 20:24 night and toned down, kinda 20:26 cool down during the day and 20:28 then they reverse for other 20:29 systems, right. 20:31 So we know that the sleep-wake 20:32 cycle operates on the 20:33 circadian rhythm, but 20:35 digestion as well works on the 20:36 circadian rhythm so when we-- 20:39 And it's optimized for 20:41 earlier feeding. 20:42 This is why when we eat 20:43 earlier in the day and not 20:44 later in the day, our 20:46 digestion is better, right? 20:47 People have to realize, like 20:49 peristalsis, which is how 20:51 quickly the food moves along 20:53 the digestive tract, that 20:54 slows down at night. 20:55 Now she talks about snacking, 20:57 not eating between meals, 20:59 right, and that makes so much 21:01 sense when you understand how 21:02 digestion works because for 21:04 the stomach to completely 21:05 empty out its contents from a 21:07 meal, it takes about five to 21:09 six hours. 21:10 Even from just that 21:11 perspective, it's amazing how 21:12 this woman, her 21:14 recommendations align with the 21:16 way that basic human 21:18 physiology works, you know, so 21:20 indeed it's a good practice 21:21 for people to eat and then 21:23 wait about five or six hours, 21:24 wait for the stomach to empty 21:26 out before you put new 21:27 food in. 21:28 >> That's fascinating. 21:29 So we're gonna just look at 21:31 one more thing, one final 21:33 thing before we let you go and 21:35 that is her point of view on 21:38 caffeinated beverages and 21:41 also alcohol. 21:42 She wrote the following 21:44 statement, she said, 21:46 "In relation to tea, coffee," 21:48 "tobacco, and alcoholic" 21:50 "drinks, the only safe course" 21:52 "is to touch not, taste not," 21:55 "handle not." 21:58 So this kind of goes counter 21:59 to what the general view is to 22:03 have something in moderation, 22:06 for example, people are saying 22:08 that as far as alcoholic 22:10 beverages are concerned, that 22:12 it's OK for men to have two 22:15 drinks a day and women, maybe 22:17 one drink a day, so what are 22:20 your thoughts on that? 22:21 >> She was very much against 22:23 drinking alcohol and tea and 22:25 caffeinated beverages, like 22:27 you say. 22:28 So, you know, and it's true 22:29 that for many decades now 22:32 they've been saying moderate 22:34 use of alcohol, right? 22:35 Even they say that there's 22:37 health benefits for the heart. 22:39 But, you know, two major 22:41 papers came out in the Lancet 22:43 Journal, so the Lancet is one 22:44 of the world's most 22:46 prestigious journals, right, 22:47 and it 2018 two studies came 22:50 out which basically confirms 22:52 what Ellen White wrote. 22:54 So in April they released a 22:56 paper and in that paper they 22:58 looked at alcohol in it's 22:59 relation to cardiovascular 23:01 disease and what they found 23:02 was that, indeed, alcohol use 23:04 was associated with a 6% 23:06 decreased risk in heart attack 23:08 so that seems like 23:09 it's beneficial. 23:10 However, it increased the risk 23:12 of coronary artery disease by 23:14 6%, heart failure by 9%, 23:17 stroke by 14%, fatal aortic 23:20 aneurysm, that's like tears in 23:22 the aorta, 15%, and fatal 23:24 hypertensive disease by 24%. 23:27 So the benefit was seen in 23:28 heart attack, lowering the 23:29 risk of heart attack, 23:30 but for other things, 23:32 it went up, you see? 23:33 So, and it's interesting in 23:35 that paper, they said, "OK," 23:36 "we realize that having the" 23:38 "recommended amounts," 23:39 like two per day for men, 23:41 one for women, they said, 23:42 "That's too high." 23:43 So they said, "OK, is there" 23:45 "a new recommendation that" 23:47 "we can make?" 23:48 They said they could not 23:49 find one. 23:50 There was no threshold beyond 23:52 which alcohol was healthy. 23:54 So basically their conclusion 23:55 was that the current 23:57 recommendations are too high. 23:59 That was their conclusion. 24:00 In fact, they say the safest 24:02 level is zero, that's the word 24:03 that they use, "zero." 24:05 And so they recommend changing 24:08 the recommendations and 24:09 promoting abstention. 24:11 That's the word that they use, 24:12 "abstention," completely 24:13 staying away from alcohol 24:15 because it is a carcinogen, 24:16 it's a group one carcinogen, 24:17 it causes cancer. 24:19 So they said even though we 24:20 found some benefits to the 24:21 heart, when we look at 24:22 everything else that alcohol 24:24 does, they said, pretty much, 24:25 there's no safe level. 24:27 Now regarding caffeinated 24:28 beverages, science is mixed. 24:30 So there's some science that 24:32 does show that there might be 24:32 health benefits, but there's 24:34 also science that shows that 24:35 this might not be healthful. 24:37 So I encourage people just to 24:38 stick with what we know is 24:40 healthful, right, instead of 24:42 kind of gambling on your 24:43 health, so... 24:44 >> So for those who are 24:46 viewing, what would you give 24:48 them as a take-away? 24:50 >> Well, you know, when we 24:52 were young my mother was sick 24:53 and we encountered Seventh-day 24:55 Adventists, we weren't 24:57 Seventh-day Adventists at the 24:58 time, and when they shared 24:59 with her the principles from 25:01 Ellen White's writings, she 25:02 got better, you know, and so 25:04 we start to follow when we 25:06 were about teenagers, we 25:07 started to read some of her 25:08 writings and we found them to 25:09 be-- to make sense and so we 25:11 started following it and I'm 25:12 really grateful for that 25:14 because the way we were eating 25:15 before, we would not be 25:17 healthy today. 25:19 So I wanna just tell the 25:20 viewers, you know, give her 25:22 writings a chance, go take a 25:24 look and I think you will find 25:26 that what a lot of what she 25:27 says makes a lot of sense. 25:29 And I can say that it is 25:31 very credible. 25:33 [René] So perhaps some of our 25:34 viewers now are interested in 25:36 reading some of her writings. 25:38 So where would you suggest 25:40 that they start, Dr. Cho. 25:42 >> There's-- her seminar 25:43 writing on health was the 25:45 Ministry of Healing. 25:46 That's the book and 25:47 people can get it online, it's 25:49 a very easy read, but I would 25:52 start with that book. 25:53 Also another on that I liked 25:55 was-- it's called Counsels on 25:56 Diet and Foods and that's 25:58 basically a compilation, it's 25:59 very organized by subject so 26:01 it's a very easy way to kind 26:03 of flip through and find out, 26:05 just look at topics that you 26:06 like, but I would-- 26:07 That's very practical and so I 26:09 would encourage those 26:10 two books. 26:11 >> Thank you very much, 26:13 Dr. Cho, for coming in and 26:15 sharing with us again 26:17 what you have learned from 26:18 your profession and very 26:20 helpful for us. 26:21 I wonder if you could close 26:23 with a word of prayer for us? 26:24 >> Sure, absolutely. 26:27 Lord, I just thank You that 26:29 many years ago, You, through 26:32 Your servant that came to our 26:34 door shared with my mother the 26:37 health principles through the 26:40 writings of Ellen White and 26:41 our family is so blessed by 26:43 it today. 26:44 And, Lord, I wanna pray for 26:45 those who are listening and 26:47 viewing, if there are those 26:49 who are sick, that they would 26:52 also read Ellen White's 26:54 writings and that You would 26:56 bless them, Lord, as they 26:57 practice the things that 26:58 they've learned. 27:00 This we pray in Jesus' name, 27:01 amen. 27:02 [Mike & René] Amen. 27:03 >> Thank you so much, Dr. Cho. 27:05 [René] Thank you. 27:08 >> Friends, today we want to 27:09 give you one of the books that 27:11 Dr. Cho mentioned. 27:12 It is called The Ministry of 27:14 Healing and you are really 27:16 going to love this book and I 27:18 know that I can recommend it 27:20 because I have read it and I 27:22 have learned from it 27:23 multiple times. 27:25 It has stood the test of time 27:27 as a trusted source on 27:28 holistic health and healing 27:30 principles. 27:32 >> So here is the information 27:34 you will need to receive 27:35 today's free offer, 27:37 The Ministry of Healing. 27:41 >> Friends, we would also like 27:42 to invite you to follow us on 27:44 Instagram and Facebook and 27:47 subscribe to our YouTube 27:48 channel and also listen to our 27:50 Podcasts and if you go to our 27:53 website, you can see our 27:54 latest exercise programs 27:57 called Experiencing Life and 27:59 also our short spiritual 28:01 messages entitled, 28:02 Daily Living. 28:04 [Mike] They are all there for 28:05 you, free to watch whenever 28:07 you choose because we want you 28:09 to experience the truth that 28:11 is found in the words of Jesus 28:13 when He said, "It is written," 28:15 "man shall not live by bread" 28:16 "alone, but by every word" 28:18 "that proceeds out of the" 28:20 "mouth of God." 28:23 ♪♪ |
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