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Series Code: IIWC
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00:43 >> Welcome to It Is Written 00:45 Canada. 00:46 Thank you for joining us in 00:48 beautiful Kelowna, British 00:49 Columbia. 00:51 Our special guest, who visited 00:53 us last week to share his 00:55 personal story, is Don Straub, 00:57 a practising clinical 01:00 counsellor who helps people 01:01 struggling with everyday 01:03 problems by giving them 01:05 powerful, practical solutions. 01:07 >> Don is going to look at the 01:09 important question of why we 01:11 sometimes do things that we 01:13 ourselves do not understand. 01:16 Don, welcome to It Is Written 01:17 Canada. 01:18 >> Thank you, I find it 01:20 wonderful to be here. 01:21 >> Don, you are also a teacher 01:24 and a pastor so what made you 01:27 become interested in becoming 01:29 a professional clinical 01:30 counsellor? 01:32 >> Well, as a teacher of 01:33 religion in high school and a 01:35 pastor, I often got students 01:38 and, of course, parishioners, 01:40 coming to me for counselling. 01:41 And I began to realize that 01:43 there's more to counselling 01:44 than just X-Y-Z, right? 01:47 And I was over my head a few 01:49 times and kind of deep down 01:50 inside I thought, "Well, some" 01:52 "day I should get some real" 01:53 "training in counselling." 01:54 But my favourite class in high 01:56 school was teaching biology, 01:58 especially Biology 12 where we 01:59 have a unit on neurobiology 02:01 and the brain and I always get 02:03 excited about that because I 02:04 thought, "This way I can help" 02:05 "these students," right, 02:07 'cause they're really at danger 02:08 with using alcohol and drugs. 02:11 And so I would, when I got to 02:12 this chapter, I would take off 02:14 of my shelf in the biology 02:16 room, a jar and I would take a 02:18 slice of a human brain out of 02:19 the jar and I would wipe it 02:21 off and dry it and I would 02:22 pass it around the classroom 02:24 so they could each hold a 02:25 slice of a human brain in 02:27 their hand and as they held 02:29 that and passed it around, I 02:30 would tell them that the brain 02:32 is just a piece of meat. 02:34 It's just like your heart or 02:36 your lungs and it requires 02:37 oxygen, you know, exercise to 02:40 get that organ functioning and 02:43 requires nutrients and what we 02:46 put into your body goes into 02:48 this brain, chemicals, alcohol, 02:52 drugs, and these things can 02:54 affect your brain and your 02:56 body, so whatever affects your 02:57 body affects your brain. 02:59 Now, of course, I took my 03:01 original degree in biology, 03:02 like it's over 50 years ago 03:04 now, and at the time I was 03:06 teaching my students that one 03:08 beer would kill, like, 03:10 thousands of brain cells and 03:11 they would never ever be 03:13 regenerated, you know, kind of 03:14 giving them the scare 03:15 technique, I guess. 03:17 But then, flash forward 40 03:19 years when I took my masters 03:21 level in counselling, with 03:23 MRI's, PET scans, CAT scans, 03:26 we know so much about the 03:27 brain now and I had to unlearn 03:29 this whole concept because we 03:31 do have now a truth called 03:34 "neuroplasticity." 03:36 We now know the brain can 03:38 regenerate cells and build new 03:39 neuroconnections. 03:42 >> So, Don, how does this new 03:44 knowledge of neuroplasticity 03:46 help in your counselling? 03:49 >> Well, I've come to 03:51 understand how the brain works 03:52 this way: if we have even a 03:56 single thought, that thought 03:59 actually changes the physical 04:01 structure of the brain. 04:04 And if we repeat thoughts over 04:06 and over, the neuroconnections 04:09 become stronger and stronger 04:10 and stronger. 04:12 And so with this knowledge, 04:13 we can help people change 04:15 their brains, if you wanna 04:16 say it that way. 04:18 Let me show you my 04:19 BFT sandwich. 04:22 So... 04:25 ...here's our sandwich. 04:26 "B" stands for "behaviours," 04:30 things we do with our body, 04:32 the words we speak. 04:34 "F" stands for "feelings," 04:36 our emotions. 04:38 "T" stands for our 04:39 "thoughts," OK. 04:41 So our feelings are in the 04:43 middle of the sandwich and 04:45 here's how it works: a thought 04:48 can create a feeling. 04:50 For instance a-- I don't wanna 04:53 say negative thought, but we 04:54 have negative thoughts 04:56 sometimes, right? 04:57 We may think, "I'm stupid," 04:58 and that makes us feel in a 05:00 certain way, like, we may feel 05:01 shame or anger or sadness, but 05:05 a thought can create a feeling 05:07 and a negative thought creates 05:09 these uncomfortable feelings. 05:10 And then this uncomfortable 05:12 feeling will drive some kind 05:14 of self-defeating behaviour, 05:16 something that we're not proud 05:17 of, we maybe have to 05:19 apologize for, perhaps even 05:21 an addiction. 05:22 So these self-defeating 05:24 behaviours that I'm talking 05:26 about, the scripture calls 05:27 them "sins." 05:28 >> So sins are self-defeating 05:32 behaviours. 05:33 [DON] That's right. 05:34 I prefer the term 05:36 "self-defeating behaviour" 05:37 because it kind of describes 05:39 what sin really does. 05:41 You see, a lot of my clients, 05:42 they just think, "Well, sin is" 05:44 "something God made up, you" 05:45 "know, and it's nothing really" 05:46 "you need to worry about," 05:48 "it's just a religious thing." 05:49 But actually, self-defeating 05:50 behaviours, or "sins," have 05:52 consequences, there are 05:54 natural consequences that 05:55 are destructive. 05:56 Like, sin causes death. 05:58 Self-defeating behaviours 05:59 cause death. 06:01 So when it comes down to it, 06:03 we have to think about 06:04 this idea. 06:06 I think about the law of God 06:07 as something like the law of 06:09 gravity; you can't break the 06:10 law of God, you can't break 06:12 the law of gravity. 06:13 There are always consequences. 06:15 So in this scenario here, it's 06:18 not a God who sits up there 06:20 and makes up rules like as if 06:22 where life is some big 06:24 Monopoly game, you know, if 06:25 you land on this square, you 06:26 go directly to jail, "Do not" 06:28 "pass Go, do not collect $200." 06:30 No, if you land on this 06:32 square, there are natural 06:34 consequences to our actions. 06:37 Let's kind of summarize the 06:39 BFT Sandwich this way: if I 06:42 always think the way I've 06:45 always thought, I will always 06:46 feel the way I've always felt. 06:49 And if I always feel the way 06:50 I've always felt, I'll always 06:52 do what I've always done. 06:54 And if I always do what I've 06:56 always done, I'll always get 06:58 what I've always gotten. 07:00 If nothing changes, then 07:01 nothing changes. 07:03 >> So, Don, does it work the 07:05 other way around? 07:06 Do behaviours affect our 07:08 feelings, too? 07:10 [DON] Absolutely. 07:11 I can maybe have a very 07:13 loving, kind behaviour and it 07:16 makes me feel content, happy, 07:18 joyful and then I start to 07:19 think positive things, 07:21 "I'm a pretty good person," 07:22 "I enjoy life." 07:23 But, you know, if I hurt 07:24 somebody, I betray somebody, 07:27 I do something harmful to 07:29 somebody, then I start feeling 07:30 these uncomfortable emotions 07:32 like shame and guilt and maybe 07:33 I get angry at myself. 07:35 Pretty soon I'm beating myself 07:36 up with all kinds of 07:37 negative thoughts. 07:40 >> So, Don, why isn't it 07:42 called, "Behavioural" 07:44 "Feeling Therapy?" 07:48 >> The reason is the feelings 07:49 are in the middle of the 07:51 sandwich and we cannot 07:53 directly change our feelings. 07:55 Have you ever tried it? 07:56 "Be happy, be happy," 07:58 "don't worry, don't worry." 07:59 Right? 07:59 It doesn't work. 08:01 The only way we can actually 08:03 change our feelings is by 08:04 changing a thought 08:06 or changing a behaviour. 08:08 But here's the problem: human 08:10 beings, they like to change 08:12 their feelings and they like 08:14 to find shortcuts to do it. 08:16 This is where people go to 08:17 alcohol and drugs because 08:19 they're trying to change 08:21 their feelings. 08:23 And guess what happens. 08:24 Feelings come as a 08:25 packaged deal. 08:27 You don't just numb the 08:29 feelings you don't want to 08:30 feel, you numb all the 08:31 feelings. 08:32 You numb joy, you numb 08:34 contentment, gratitude. 08:36 And that's unfortunate. 08:38 When there are therapeutic 08:39 ways, I call them, to change 08:41 our feelings, rather than 08:43 medical ways and drug ways 08:45 or medicine ways or 08:46 self-medicating ways. 08:48 >> So what about positive 08:49 thinking? 08:51 People are really into 08:52 positive thinking. 08:54 >> Well, as a Christian 08:55 counsellor, I'm really not 08:58 fond of this term, "positive" 08:59 "thinking," at all because I 09:01 believe that we need to go by 09:05 scripture and in scripture we 09:07 find that truthful thinking is 09:09 very important. 09:11 And so as a Christian 09:13 counsellor, I talk about 09:15 positive thinking that's also 09:17 truthful thinking. 09:20 For instance, I could get a 09:21 thought, "I'm the smartest" 09:23 "person in Canada," or I could 09:25 get a thought, "I'm God." 09:27 Oh, very positive thoughts, 09:28 right? 09:29 Not truthful, not helpful. 09:32 But, you know, I can get a 09:34 thought like, "I'm so stupid." 09:38 But you know what? 09:39 That is not a truthful thought. 09:42 The truth is I occasionally do 09:44 dumb things and I've done-- 09:47 But I'm not stupid. 09:49 In fact, nobody's stupid. 09:51 We're all smart, we're just 09:52 smart in different areas 09:54 of our life. 09:56 Like, I could create a 09:58 thought: "I'm important." 10:00 That's actually a truthful 10:01 thought. 10:02 See, I'm not more important 10:05 than anyone else, but I'm not 10:06 less important than anyone 10:07 else either. 10:09 A doctor is no more important 10:11 than a garbage collector. 10:13 Our society has twisted things 10:15 around and we start putting 10:17 people in levels of importance 10:18 and that's not helpful and 10:20 it's not truthful. 10:23 The thing is, when I was a 10:25 pastor, I would teach my 10:27 congregation that there's no 10:28 hierarchy in the church, 10:30 whether you're an usher, a 10:32 greeter, an elder, a pastor, 10:34 we're all important. 10:36 We just play different roles. 10:39 The apostle Paul refers to the 10:42 church as a "body." 10:44 In 1 Corinthians 12:17, this 10:46 is what he says. 10:47 He says... 10:59 >> So, Don, where in the 11:01 scripture do you find support 11:03 for cognitive behavioural 11:05 therapy? 11:06 >> Well, let me share 11:08 something from Philippians 11:09 4:8, Paul says... 11:31 There's another place in 11:32 2 Corinthians 10:5 11:34 where Paul says... 11:42 Well, how does a person take 11:43 every thought captive? 11:45 Well, it starts by being 11:47 mindful of our thoughts. 11:49 So if I get a thought and I'm 11:51 mindful about it and I go, 11:53 "Wait a minute, that's not a" 11:54 "truthful thought," I take 11:56 that thought captive by 11:57 changing that thought into 11:58 something more truthful. 12:02 This is how we can change 12:04 those neuroconnections in our 12:05 brain and we begin to practice 12:07 thinking more truthful 12:09 thoughts which affects 12:11 how we behave. 12:13 You know, when we pray to God 12:16 and we say, "God, just be my" 12:20 vision," that's really saying, 12:23 "God, give me the ability to" 12:26 "see what's truthful." 12:28 ♪♪ 12:37 ♪Be Thou my vision 12:41 ♪Oh Lord of my heart 12:45 ♪Naught be all else to me 12:49 ♪save that Thou art 12:53 ♪Thou my best thought 12:56 ♪by day or by night 13:01 ♪Waking or sleeping 13:04 ♪Thy presence my light 13:09 ♪♪ 13:18 ♪Be Thou my wisdom 13:21 ♪Be Thou my true word 13:26 ♪I ever with Thee 13:29 ♪and Thou with me, Lord 13:34 ♪Thou my great Father 13:38 ♪I Thy true son 13:42 ♪Thou in me dwelling 13:46 ♪and I with Thee one 13:52 ♪Riches I heed not 13:56 ♪nor man's empty praise 14:00 ♪Thou my inheritance 14:04 ♪now and always 14:08 ♪Thou and Thou only 14:13 ♪first in my heart 14:17 ♪High King of heaven 14:21 ♪my treasure Thou art 14:28 >> So God can become a part of 14:30 our thoughts in when we ask 14:32 Him to be our vision and we 14:34 can think truthful thoughts. 14:35 Let's talk about behaviour and 14:36 the scriptures. 14:38 So is there something in the 14:39 scriptures that talk about 14:40 behaviour in relation to 14:42 cognitive behavioural therapy? 14:44 >> Yes there is, actually. 14:45 In 1 Corinthians 13:13 Paul 14:48 says there are... 14:57 Faith and hope are thoughts, 15:00 it's a way of thinking. 15:02 Positive thinking, trusting 15:03 thinking. 15:05 Love, though, is a verb. 15:07 A verb is an action, 15:09 an action word. 15:11 It's caring, it's nurturing, 15:13 it's comforting, it's helping. 15:15 And so when we do these 15:16 behaviours, it affects our 15:19 feelings and affects our 15:21 thoughts. 15:23 >> So, Don, let's go... 15:26 Let's go back to the brain. 15:28 One chapter in your book is 15:30 titled, "We Have Two Brains." 15:34 Can you explain that to us? 15:38 >> This is my favourite part 15:39 of counselling. 15:41 I love talking about the brain 15:43 because when people hear this 15:45 they go, "Now I know I'm not" 15:46 "crazy, I understand" 15:48 "myself now." 15:50 So let's think of it this way: 15:53 our brains actually 15:55 are two brains. 15:58 I'm gonna use my hands just to 15:59 quickly illustrate this. 16:01 I go into so much detail in my 16:02 book that I have to give you 16:04 the-- a very short version of 16:06 this, OK? 16:07 But this part of my hand, my 16:09 wrist, is my hind brain and my 16:11 hindbrain is a part of my 16:13 autonomic nervous system, 16:15 autonomic brain, or 16:16 unconscious brain. 16:17 The word, "autonomic," means 16:19 "automatic," it does things 16:20 for me without my choice; 16:22 keeps my heart beating, 16:23 breathing, digesting food, 16:25 but also things like if I 16:27 touch a hot stove, I do that, 16:29 and I didn't choose to do 16:31 that, this hindbrain did it 16:33 for me, without my choice, 16:35 to save my skin and my flesh, 16:36 obviously. 16:38 Now my thumb represents the 16:39 middle brain, the limbic 16:41 system, the emotional brain 16:43 and together, these form the 16:45 unconscious autonomic brain. 16:48 Over top of this, my fingers 16:49 represent the conscious brain, 16:51 where we can perceive our five 16:53 senses, you know, touch and 16:55 taste and smell, etcetera, 16:56 and right where my fingernails 16:57 are, frontal lobe, is where we 16:59 do our logical reasoning, 17:01 thinking. 17:03 Now we have two brains, we 17:04 have two memories as well. 17:07 We have an explicit memory 17:09 which is the conscious memory, 17:10 I can think about facts and 17:12 people and times and places. 17:15 But I have another memory, 17:17 an emotional memory. 17:19 Now the best way to describe 17:20 this is to tell you a little 17:22 story of when I was in grade 17:24 one and my mom gave me a 17:25 birthday party. 17:26 So what I'm doing now is I'm 17:27 remembering the facts. 17:29 We played pin the tail on the 17:31 donkey, we ate birthday cake 17:33 and it had coins wrapped in 17:35 wax paper buried in the cake. 17:37 But even right now, while I'm 17:41 telling you this story, I have 17:43 goosebumps all through my 17:45 arms, up my neck, my-- it is 17:47 just, it's a tingling, happy 17:49 feeling in my body. 17:52 That was the memory of that 17:54 day, stored here, and when I 17:57 touched or thought of this 17:59 memory, it triggered this 18:01 emotion and these body 18:03 sensations and I'm feeling the 18:05 day it happened. 18:07 Isn't that amazing? 18:08 [MIKE & RENÉ] That is amazing. 18:10 >> So what about having a 18:12 traumatic thought? 18:13 What happens when you have a 18:14 traumatic experience and then 18:15 you think about that? 18:17 >> Exactly. 18:19 We all have memories we don't 18:21 like to think about. 18:23 Why don't we like to think 18:24 about them? 18:25 Because it hurts. 18:26 We get emotions that-- 18:28 anxiety, fear, we can get 18:30 angry, sad, we can start 18:31 crying, and we can actually 18:33 feel pain, we can get pain in 18:35 our stomach, our chest, we can 18:37 get tight in our jaws. 18:40 These are emotional memories 18:42 and body sensations stored in 18:45 this unconscious, 18:46 automatic brain. 18:48 Now here's the thing, so this 18:50 memory has feeling, it has 18:52 body sensations, but it also 18:53 has a third type of memory. 18:56 This type of memory we call, 18:59 "feeling beliefs." 19:02 They're not necessarily 19:03 cognitive, but they still work 19:05 like beliefs, they create even 19:07 more feelings. 19:08 A "feeling belief" could be a 19:10 feeling like, "I'm stupid," or 19:11 something like that, 19:12 "I feel stupid." 19:13 So let me use an illustration 19:15 to show how this works. 19:17 Let's take-- let's pretend we 19:18 have a little boy, Johnny, 19:20 we'll call him Johnny and he's 19:22 just four and little Johnny is 19:23 playing with his toy airplane 19:25 and he's running around going 19:26 [propeller noise] you know, 19:28 with his toy airplane, 19:29 just being innocent. 19:30 But what Johnny doesn't know 19:32 is his dad has just come home 19:33 from work and let's say his 19:35 dad maybe had a really hard 19:36 day at work, maybe he's 19:38 worried about being fired and 19:40 he's sitting there and Johnny 19:41 comes flying by and for some 19:44 reason Dad just gets 19:46 triggered, he gets angry at 19:47 Johnny and he snaps at Johnny, 19:49 he says, "Johnny, I told you" 19:50 "a million times, I need" 19:52 "peace and quiet when I come" 19:53 "home from work." 19:54 "Go to your room and shut up." 19:55 Little Johnny bursts into 19:57 tears, he's feeling hurt and 19:59 he goes to his room and in 20:01 that moment, Johnny isn't 20:02 thinking, "Oh, I'm the" 20:03 "innocent kid, my dad probably" 20:04 "had a hard day at work." 20:05 No, he's just four. 20:07 He's feeling stupid, he's 20:09 feeling like, "I'm stupid." 20:10 "I don't remember my dad" 20:11 "telling me that." 20:13 And he's feeling like he's a 20:14 bad boy because he made his 20:17 dad angry, it's his fault. 20:20 Let's flash forward now, many 20:23 years in the future. 20:24 Johnny becomes John. 20:26 He's married to his lovely 20:28 wife, he loves her, she loves 20:30 him, but one day John is 20:32 innocently putting a bowl of 20:34 food into the microwave when 20:35 suddenly his wife, she raises 20:38 her voice and freaks out and 20:40 says, "Don't put that dish in" 20:41 "the microwave!" 20:43 And then he just goes [snap] 20:45 like snap. 20:46 Maybe he says something mean 20:47 to her, maybe he just throws 20:49 the bowl down and he walks out 20:51 and slams the door behind him, 20:52 maybe he doesn't talk to her 20:54 for two hours while he watches 20:55 football on TV. 20:56 What just happened there? 20:58 Well, he wasn't thinking of 21:00 his dad who probably had many 21:02 experiences like this as a 21:03 child, but in that moment, the 21:06 sound of her voice, the tone, 21:08 the volume, the words, trigger 21:12 all those feelings, emotions, 21:14 body sensations, and even the 21:16 feeling thoughts, "I'm stupid, 21:18 "I'm not a good husband," and 21:20 he moves those thoughts, move 21:22 into shame and they create a 21:25 fight, flight, or freeze 21:27 response in that moment. 21:31 It wasn't his choice, it was 21:32 just an automatic, like 21:34 survival, reaction 21:37 that happened to him. 21:39 Well, later, after his logical 21:42 brain reconnects and his 21:44 emotional brain isn't in 21:45 charge anymore, he goes, 21:47 "Oh, what have I done?" 21:49 And he goes and apologizes 21:51 and says, "I'm sorry for" 21:52 "acting so foolishly." 21:54 "Will you forgive me?" 21:55 "Can you tell me why" 21:56 "you said that?" 21:57 And she says, "Well, there's" 21:59 "metal trim, there's gold" 22:00 "trim around that bowl and I" 22:01 "was afraid you were gonna" 22:02 "destroy the microwave." 22:03 And he goes, "Oooh." 22:04 "I'm so sorry." 22:06 See, this is what trauma can 22:08 do, it can be buried in there 22:10 and be brought out and 22:11 triggered. 22:12 We say the past is present 22:14 when we're triggered. 22:15 I think we all know what we're 22:17 talking about, it happens to 22:18 us occasionally if not 22:20 many times. 22:21 I know it does with me. 22:23 But it kinda reminds me of 22:24 some words that Paul mentions 22:26 in Romans chapter 7, verse 15. 22:28 He says... 22:37 And I'm just skipping a few 22:38 lines here... 22:58 But he concludes with some 23:00 really great words... 23:15 You know, when it comes to 23:17 this whole concept of the 23:18 brain, when you think about it 23:22 God was really ingenious when 23:24 He created the brain because 23:26 if the brain did not work in 23:27 this fight, flight, or freeze 23:29 manner, there'd be many times 23:31 where we would be in danger 23:32 and we would be too slow 23:33 to act. 23:35 So really, in this sin-filled 23:36 world, we wouldn't live long 23:38 enough, really, to enjoy life. 23:42 But unfortunately, there's 23:44 times where there is no danger 23:46 and we act like there is a 23:48 danger and I think that's what 23:51 Jeremiah is referring to when 23:52 he says... 24:02 So sometimes we are just stuck 24:05 with these sinful natures and 24:07 sometimes they don't act the 24:09 way they're supposed to act. 24:11 >> So, wow, Don, do we have 24:15 any hope then in this area of 24:19 fight, flight, or freeze 24:21 behaviours? 24:22 >> Actually there is. 24:25 In the realm of counselling, I 24:28 and many counsellors around the 24:29 world, have been specifically 24:31 trained in trauma. 24:33 Not all counsellors are trained 24:34 in trauma, but I do some 24:36 trauma counselling that's been 24:37 scientifically researched and 24:39 it's incredible. 24:41 With the special techniques 24:43 that we can use, we can 24:44 actually change a person's 24:47 implicit brain and we can 24:49 neutralize these triggers 24:51 so that a person, when a 24:53 person has trauma and they 24:54 feel all these feelings, they 24:56 can think now of that trauma 24:59 visually in their minds, but 25:01 don't feel it in their bodies 25:02 and that helps with the 25:04 triggers. 25:05 But underneath all of this, 25:07 along with all of this types 25:08 of therapy, the cognitive 25:10 behavioural therapy, we as 25:12 Christians have the word of 25:14 God and it's important for us 25:17 to be daily reading the truth 25:19 of the Bible, especially the 25:20 four gospels, the words of 25:22 Jesus who tells us about our 25:23 true selves and our identity 25:25 in Him, and this is how we can 25:29 defeat the enemy, the Father 25:31 of Lies. 25:33 I mean, isn't this why this 25:35 show is called It Is Written, 25:36 right, because there's power 25:38 in our words because words 25:40 are thoughts. 25:41 Change the thoughts, change 25:43 the feelings, change the 25:44 behaviour. 25:46 >> Wow, Don, we completely 25:48 agree with you, the word of 25:50 God is so important. 25:52 But, Don, it's time to end now 25:55 and so I wonder, before we 25:56 end, could you please 25:57 pray for us? 25:59 >> Absolutely. 26:02 Father God, scripture tells us 26:04 that we are fearfully and 26:06 wonderfully made and who can 26:09 understand the heart, but You 26:11 know, You know us 26:12 inside and out. 26:14 And we thank You that, in 26:16 spite of all our imperfections 26:18 and our reactions, that You 26:20 still care for us and that 26:22 through Jesus we have the 26:24 assurance of Your love and 26:26 eternal life. 26:28 In Jesus' name I pray all 26:29 these things, amen. 26:31 [MIKE & RENÉ] Amen. 26:32 >> Don, thank you so much for 26:34 showing us how scripture 26:36 aligns perfectly with science 26:38 and with professional 26:40 counselling and next time 26:41 you're going to be joining us 26:42 to share with us the important 26:44 topic of how to deal with 26:45 addictions so we look forward 26:47 to that. 26:48 >> Thank you. 26:50 >> Friends, Don Straub shared 26:52 with us an important question 26:54 found in Romans chapter 7: 26:56 "Why do I do what I do for" 26:58 "what I want to do that I do" 27:01 "not do, but what I hate that" 27:03 "I do, the solution, I thank" 27:05 "God through Jesus Christ," 27:07 "our Lord." 27:09 >> Our free offer for you 27:10 today is Don Straub's book 27:13 entitled, Bridges to Freedom: 27:15 Creating Change Through 27:17 Science and Christian 27:18 Spirituality, which will help 27:21 you move closer to Jesus, get 27:23 past your setbacks, and learn 27:25 life lessons with the 27:27 essential bridges to freedom 27:29 described in this book. 27:33 >> Before you go, we would 27:35 also like to invite you to 27:36 follow us on Instagram and 27:38 Facebook and subscribe to our 27:40 YouTube channel and also 27:42 listen to our Podcasts. 27:44 And if you go to our website, 27:46 you can see our latest 27:47 programs, including our 27:49 cooking demonstrations, our 27:51 short spiritual messages 27:52 entitled, Daily Living, and 27:55 our exercise workouts called, 27:57 Experiencing Life. 28:01 >> We want you to experience 28:03 the truth found in the words 28:04 of Jesus when He said, 28:07 "It is written, man shall not" 28:09 "live by bread alone, but by" 28:12 "every word that proceeds" 28:14 "out of the mouth of God." 28:17 ♪♪ |
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