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00:47 [RENÉ] Welcome to It Is
00:48 Written Canada. 00:50 Thank you for joining us in 00:52 beautiful Kelowna, British 00:54 Columbia. 00:55 Our special guest again is Don 00:57 Straub, a practising clinical 00:59 counsellor who helps people 01:01 struggling with everyday 01:03 problems by giving them 01:05 powerful, practical solutions. 01:07 >> Don is going to look at the 01:09 topic of acceptable addictions 01:11 Don, welcome back to It Is 01:13 Written Canada. 01:14 >> Thank you for this 01:15 great opportunity to be on 01:16 your program. 01:18 >> Don, let me begin by asking 01:20 you, what do you mean by an 01:22 acceptable addiction? 01:25 >> Our society, unfortunately, 01:27 stereotypes addiction and 01:29 especially people with 01:30 addictions. 01:32 So many people just look down 01:33 their noses at people with 01:34 addiction when really the 01:36 truth is most of us are 01:38 addicted to something. 01:40 It may be food, gambling, 01:42 shopping, social media, 01:46 TV-watching, Netflix, video 01:48 games, and my acceptable 01:50 addiction: work. 01:53 >> So, Don, would you say that 01:56 some addictions are worse 01:58 than others? 02:00 [DON] I would probably lean 02:01 that direction because, like I 02:03 said, some of the addictions 02:05 that people have are necessary 02:07 things in our life, like we 02:08 eat, we work, we shop, and not 02:12 everybody develops addictions 02:14 to these. 02:15 So in the field of 02:16 counselling, what we do is we 02:19 question the person and we 02:20 determine if they have an 02:21 addiction or not by how 02:23 adverse their... 02:27 their life is as a result of 02:28 that behaviour. 02:29 Like, are they functioning 02:30 well at work, are they 02:32 functioning well physically, 02:33 physical health, their 02:34 marriages, are they being 02:35 adversely affected by their 02:37 behaviours? 02:38 And when a person's life and 02:41 any part of their life, is 02:42 adversely affected by their 02:44 behaviour, we would label that 02:45 an addiction. 02:46 Because, see, what happens 02:48 with addiction is people will 02:50 continue this behaviour in 02:51 spite of whatever pain it 02:53 causes them, whatever adverse 02:55 affects it has on them. 02:57 In fact, people have lost 02:59 marriages, they've lost their 03:00 job, they've lost their money, 03:02 they've even lost their 03:03 children to the ministry, and 03:05 they've even lost their 03:06 physical health because they 03:08 cannot seem to find control 03:10 over this behaviour. 03:12 >> So, Don, what causes people 03:13 to develop addictions? 03:17 >> Well, let me start with 03:18 what the research says it's 03:20 not, OK, because there 03:22 are myths. 03:24 For instance, there is no 03:25 genetic cause for addiction. 03:28 They thought it was because it 03:29 seemed to run in families, but 03:31 with all the gene mapping that 03:33 scientists do, we've never 03:34 found any kind of genetic 03:35 connection to addiction in the 03:37 sense that there's a genetic 03:39 gene for addiction. 03:41 The second myth about 03:42 addiction is that it's a moral 03:43 failure, you know, "Just say" 03:45 "no to drugs." 03:47 If people could just say "no" 03:48 to drugs and that would be the 03:49 end of it, we wouldn't have 03:50 the problems we have. 03:52 But people can't say "no," 03:53 that's the problem. 03:55 The third myth about addiction 03:58 has to do with the fact that 04:01 not every substance, not every 04:04 behaviour is addictive. 04:07 For instance, thousands of 04:08 people take opiates for 04:10 surgeries, for pain, only a 04:12 certain percentage of those, a 04:14 small percentage, actually 04:15 become addicted to that 04:16 substance or that-- or the 04:18 different behaviours. 04:19 So that's what we know about 04:21 what doesn't cause addiction. 04:23 But the research clearly shows 04:25 what does cause addiction 04:27 is pain. 04:29 You see, pain is pain. 04:31 It could be physical pain, it 04:33 could be emotional pain. 04:35 The conscious brain knows the 04:36 difference, but the 04:37 unconscious brain treats all 04:38 pain the same. 04:39 I could have the pain of 04:40 touching a hot stove or I can 04:42 have the pain of shame or 04:43 anxiety or depression and pain 04:46 causes the addiction. 04:48 Gabor Maté who is kind of a 04:50 guru and a researcher of 04:52 addiction who used to work 04:54 with people in addiction in 04:56 east side Vancouver, has 04:58 written several books and 04:59 talks about this problem and 05:01 he would say it this way... 05:08 You see, pain comes in 05:10 many forms. 05:12 What I've discovered is that 05:14 people in addiction and I'm 05:15 probably talking 99% of people 05:17 in addiction, have one or 05:19 usually more additional mental 05:22 health diagnosis. 05:24 They have depression, they 05:25 have high anxiety, they have 05:27 personality disorders, they 05:28 have ADHD, they have 05:30 schizophrenia, they have 05:31 bipolar, there's all of these 05:33 mental health issues that 05:36 cause them pain 'cause these 05:37 are not easy things to live 05:39 with and they're things that 05:40 medical science is really 05:43 sometimes at a loss to help. 05:45 And so they suffer from the-- 05:47 not only the pain of these 05:48 mental disorders, but there's 05:50 so much shame that's carried 05:52 by having a mental disorder. 05:53 They're shunned by family 05:54 members, people don't know how 05:55 to treat them. 05:57 And then when you have these 05:58 mental disorders, we often end 05:59 up with job loss which leads 06:02 to homelessness, which leads 06:03 to hunger, poverty, and all of 06:07 this even adds more shame to a 06:09 person's life and this all 06:11 adds up to even more pain. 06:14 >> So, Don, if addiction is 06:17 not genetic, why does it run 06:20 in the family? 06:22 >> You know, it took us a 06:23 while to figure that out 06:25 because it does seem to run in 06:27 families, but what we've 06:29 studied is that families 06:31 perpetuate their lifestyle and 06:33 their abuse to their children. 06:35 There's a principle that goes: 06:39 We also know that addiction 06:41 runs in certain cultures 06:43 such as First Nations, 06:45 as an example. 06:46 It's not genetic in the sense 06:48 that it's passed on 06:49 genetically, but they have 06:51 this history, and a chronic 06:53 history, of being marginalized 06:56 by main-stream society and 06:58 that's painful so it is passed 07:00 on this way. 07:02 And then when I thought of 07:03 this, I thought of a verse in 07:04 scripture, it's in the Ten 07:06 Commandments, Exodus 20, 07:08 where God says... 07:17 And I've always read that and 07:19 wondered, what does that mean? 07:20 I mean, does God actually 07:22 punish innocent people for 07:24 somebody else's sins? 07:25 That does not fit the 07:26 character of God. 07:27 But then, you see, I 07:29 remembered, like I said in the 07:30 previous episodes, that in the 07:33 Bible it speaks like God 07:35 actually causes what He 07:37 doesn't prevent. 07:40 And so when you think about 07:41 it, He chooses to operate this 07:43 universe on the law of freedom 07:45 and love and so if you just 07:47 allow freedom, which He does, 07:49 then that's how hurt people 07:50 hurt people. 07:52 And these habits, these 07:53 behaviours, these painful 07:54 hurts, these traumas, are 07:56 passed on generationally. 07:58 But there's hope. 07:59 Jesus came to break that cycle. 08:02 The cycle doesn't have to keep 08:03 perpetuating if we introduce 08:05 into that cycle, help. 08:09 Most of us live pretty 08:11 sheltered lives and it wasn't 08:13 until I became a clinical 08:14 counsellor and dealt with 08:15 people in addiction that I 08:17 began to see what goes on 08:19 behind closed doors. 08:21 I could not begin to tell you 08:24 the pain that I hear every day 08:26 coming from clients that 08:27 come to me. 08:29 I-- it's triple-X, I could not 08:31 even talk about it in public. 08:33 [MIKE] So you're dealing with 08:34 a lot of this pain, how do you 08:35 manage it yourself? 08:37 >> Well, to start with, I go 08:39 to my own counsellor, I take 08:41 trauma counselling because 08:42 there's secondary trauma. 08:44 I can become traumatized by 08:45 listening to the trauma. 08:47 But in a nutshell, and I'm 08:48 gonna talk a lot about this in 08:50 a future episode, I have 08:52 learned from my own addiction 08:54 to think differently about 08:55 myself and to take care 08:58 of myself. 09:01 [RENÉ] So, Don, you have been 09:03 in addiction, too, and yet you 09:07 were raised in a Christian 09:08 family and worked for 09:10 the church. 09:11 How did that happen? 09:14 >> Well, I did mention before 09:17 that I was actually the leader 09:19 of two organizations. 09:21 I was principal of a school 09:24 and pastor of a church and 09:26 with these positions comes a 09:27 lot of work, a lot of stress. 09:30 Actually, it was two 09:31 full-time jobs. 09:32 So in that sense, I was 09:35 under stress. 09:37 In addition to that, my wife, 09:40 Penny, as I mentioned in a 09:41 previous episode, was really 09:44 living on the edge of death 09:45 for many years, 12 years. 09:47 Keeping-- being kept alive by 09:49 intravenous feeding within our 09:51 own home, it was like a 09:53 hospital, knowing that she 09:54 would die any day and could 09:57 be any day. 09:59 This went on for 12 years. 10:01 And on top of that, when 10:02 you're a leader and you decide 10:04 to follow where Jesus is 10:06 leading and taking you in this 10:07 life, not everybody likes your 10:09 decisions, sometimes you have 10:10 to make some pretty hard 10:12 decisions and you can't 10:13 please everybody. 10:15 And, of course, you know, 10:16 there's criticism, there's 10:18 judgment, there's gossip, 10:19 even lies can be passed 10:21 around, gossip is a really 10:22 awful thing. 10:25 And this adds to the pain. 10:26 After my wife, Penny, died, 10:29 my-- one of my daughters gave 10:32 birth to our first grandchild 10:34 and he was born with, we 10:36 didn't know what, it was-- he 10:37 almost was gonna die, he was 10:39 living on the edge of death 10:40 himself, now he's 16, but he 10:41 still can't talk, he can't 10:43 communicate, he wears diapers. 10:46 It's heart-breaking to see 10:48 your grandchild and then your 10:50 daughter and her husband going 10:52 through the pain of this. 10:54 You feel the pain yourself, 10:55 I just felt all this pain. 10:58 >> So, Don, tell us about your 11:00 healing process and about 11:02 your discoveries. 11:04 >> The details are in my book, 11:06 but to keep it short, 11:08 basically I came to a place in 11:10 my life where I reached a 11:11 burn-out, they call it a 11:13 "burn-out," it's actually called 11:14 an "adrenal burn-out." 11:16 'Cause what was happening 11:18 there, to cope with my pain, I 11:20 was keeping myself busy 11:21 all the time. 11:23 Wouldn't let myself stop and 11:24 take a break and rest. 11:26 I had to keep working to keep 11:27 my mind going in a good place. 11:30 And when you're continuously 11:32 working, your adrenal glands 11:33 are continuously pumping out 11:35 adrenaline. 11:36 So actually what was going on 11:38 is I was high on my own 11:41 adrenaline. 11:43 I was addicted to the 11:45 chemical, adrenaline. 11:46 In fact, we know now that 11:47 every addiction, whether it's 11:49 a substance addiction or a 11:51 process addiction, like 11:52 gambling or work, is actually 11:54 still a chemical addiction. 11:56 And my body was just pumping 11:58 out adrenaline and I was just 12:00 riding the wave until I 12:02 started to get symptoms. 12:04 And it was a friend and 12:06 colleague of mine who suffered 12:07 a burn-out himself as a pastor 12:09 years before me, who came to 12:10 me and said, "Don, I'm" 12:12 "noticing some symptoms." 12:13 And, of course, my wife, 12:15 Juanita, she was noticing some 12:16 things were off, too. 12:18 And so they asked me if I 12:20 would go to see a doctor so I 12:22 promised them I would go to 12:23 the doctor and I would tell 12:24 them exactly what my symptoms 12:26 were, what I was experiencing, 12:28 what my wife was experiencing, 12:30 what my friend was noticing. 12:32 And there I was telling the 12:33 doctor and he reached for his 12:35 prescription pad and he 12:37 started to write and I started 12:38 to go, "Oh no!" 12:40 "I don't want pills." 12:42 Ripped it off his pad and he 12:43 handed me this piece of paper 12:46 and it said, "Clean out your" 12:47 "desk and do not report to" 12:48 "work until I give you" 12:49 "permission." 12:50 And I said, "Uh, I have" 12:52 "two desks." 12:53 "I'm both a principal" 12:54 "and a pastor." 12:55 He snatched it back and he 12:57 scratched it and rewrote, 12:59 "Clean out both desks and do" 13:01 "not go to work until I give" 13:02 "you permission." 13:04 And that was the beginning of 13:06 a fairly lengthy healing 13:08 process which probably, I 13:10 didn't really probably 13:11 completely heal for about 13:12 three years. 13:14 But within the first year, I 13:16 knew I had to resign from both 13:17 jobs, one at a time. 13:20 But, fortunately, I belong to 13:23 a church who really believes 13:24 in the holistic approach to 13:26 health, in other words... 13:29 So our body affects our minds, 13:31 our minds affect our body, 13:33 just as we've been talking 13:34 about, our thoughts affect 13:35 our emotions and our 13:37 physical body. 13:38 And so they paid for me to go 13:39 to a place for two weeks which 13:41 is called Silver Hills Guest 13:43 House and the manager there, 13:45 Phil Brewer, was a wonderful 13:47 person and by spending two 13:49 weeks there with a healthy 13:50 diet and in nature and having 13:52 these daily talks with Phil, 13:54 I began to heal. 13:56 And while I was there, one of 13:58 the staff member told me to 14:00 read this book, handed me this 14:01 book and it was entitled Never 14:03 Good Enough by Carol Cannon, 14:05 a book published by my 14:07 own church. 14:08 And I read that book and it 14:10 started to open up ideas and 14:13 it started to make me come 14:15 aware of why I was thinking 14:17 and why I was doing what 14:18 I was doing. 14:20 The essence of this book was 14:21 that often times when it comes 14:23 to addiction, in fact, most of 14:25 the time, it's because we 14:26 don't like worthy, valuable. 14:28 Remember we talked in the past 14:30 about our thoughts, how we put 14:31 ourselves down, and I was 14:33 never feeling good enough, I 14:34 felt I could never measure up. 14:36 And it wasn't necessarily to 14:37 God, but to myself, to my 14:39 church, to my family, and I 14:42 would have to work harder 14:43 and longer to feel good 14:46 about myself. 14:47 >> So how do you know that you 14:49 are good enough? 14:51 >> And that's the problem, is 14:53 I was doing-- I was finding it 14:55 out by assessing how many 14:57 compliments I got. 14:58 "Don, good job," or "Don, we" 15:00 "can't do this without you." 15:02 And that's what I was looking 15:03 for, it was actually kind of 15:05 in a, as I found out later, an 15:07 addiction to approval. 15:08 I needed that approval to feel 15:10 good about myself. 15:12 And I realized that in my past 15:14 I was always, you know, the 15:15 last person picked on a ball 15:17 game team, I was teased and 15:20 bullied at school, pimples, 15:22 you know, skinny runt. 15:24 And then, from this book, I 15:26 also found out that a lot of 15:28 people are raised in good, 15:30 healthy, religious homes, and 15:32 good, healthy churches, but 15:35 because of some environments, 15:37 it's like perfectionism and 15:39 we're taught we have to do it 15:40 perfectly or we're not good 15:42 enough and so I realized that 15:44 I had never felt good enough 15:46 to myself, to others. 15:49 Now here's a truth that I've 15:50 discovered and I teach it all 15:52 the time: as human beings, our 15:54 greatest need is acceptance. 15:57 We're wired that way, we're 15:58 wired for connection, which 16:00 means our greatest fear is 16:02 rejection and when our 16:05 greatest fear is rejection, 16:07 we will go to all kinds of 16:08 ways to avoid being judged 16:11 and rejected. 16:13 And that's the thing about, 16:15 you know, being a leader 16:16 you're gonna be constantly 16:17 liked or not liked or judged 16:19 or criticized and I was trying 16:21 to please everybody. 16:23 So what I've learned is that 16:25 if a person is gonna heal from 16:27 addiction, it must be done in 16:29 an environment with 100% 16:32 acceptance and non-judgment 16:34 which is what I do as a 16:36 clinical counsellor when my 16:37 clients come to me which is 16:39 what we do in our live-in 16:41 addictions treatment centre is 16:43 we set up an environment where 16:44 no one is judged for any 16:47 reason at all, they're 16:48 accepted and loved. 16:50 Of course we have to have 16:52 rules, we have to protect each 16:53 other from each other, we have 16:55 to have boundaries, but we 16:56 don't, like, kick people out 16:58 for doing this or maybe even 17:00 using, we work with them, we 17:02 have grace for them and we 17:04 help them learn from 17:05 their mistakes. 17:06 >> So, Don, it seems to me 17:09 that the church should be a 17:11 safe place for those that are 17:13 struggling with addictions. 17:15 >> Absolutely it should be 17:16 because we talk about the 17:17 church being a hospital for 17:19 sinners, don't we? 17:20 But, unfortunately, it 17:21 often is not. 17:23 So many times within the 17:24 church people are judged, 17:26 they're even dismissed or 17:28 kicked out of church for some 17:29 of the things, but mostly 17:30 people just leave because they 17:31 don't feel like they're 17:32 accepted the way they are. 17:34 The thing is, most of my 17:36 clients, both in my private 17:37 practice and in the centre for 17:39 addiction, are not Christians. 17:42 And, because of my ethical 17:44 principles that I have to work 17:45 with with my license and 17:47 because of the fact that I 17:49 work in a place that's funded 17:50 by the government, we have to 17:52 be careful. 17:53 What we do is we honour 17:55 everybody's religious beliefs 17:57 as equal, we respect and 17:58 honour them. 18:00 Now it gives me many 18:01 opportunities though to share 18:03 a little bit and I'll ask 18:05 permission or I will say 18:06 something like, you know, 18:07 like, "We're all worthy and" 18:09 "valuable, and for those of" 18:11 "you who believe in Jesus," 18:12 "you could tell yourself," 18:14 "'I'm a child of God.'" 18:16 And others are listening to 18:17 that, too, but we don't make 18:18 apologies for that, we just 18:20 don't force our religion on 18:21 other people. 18:23 So in what we do, we practice 18:26 something called "wellbriety." 18:28 >> "Wellbriety?" 18:30 Don't you mean "sobriety?" 18:31 >> Exactly. 18:33 I used to used the word, 18:34 "sobriety," for years and 18:35 years, but then I've learned 18:37 this new word called, 18:38 "wellbriety," which actually 18:39 comes from the First Nations 18:41 culture and I love it because 18:43 "wellbriety" says what 18:45 "sobriety" means and so it's a 18:48 very holistic approach. 18:50 And people in addiction love 18:51 that word, "wellbriety." 18:53 "I'm living in wellbriety." 18:54 Because addiction has to go 18:56 from a place of just not 18:58 stopping something, but 19:00 starting something new and 19:01 different and healthy. 19:03 This is how I illustrate it 19:05 with my clients. 19:07 Now this is a game of pretend 19:08 obviously, so let's pretend 19:10 this is real, real money, OK? 19:13 So I will ask you the question 19:15 what's this worth? 19:17 >> A hundred dollars. 19:18 >> Exactly. 19:20 Now we could say it another 19:21 way, we could say, 19:22 "What's its value?" 19:23 >> A hundred dollars. 19:24 >> Exactly. 19:25 [paper ripping] 19:28 Now you can see why I didn't 19:29 wanna use a real one today. 19:31 So the question is now, 19:34 what's it worth now? 19:35 [RENÉ] Nothing. 19:37 [MIKE] Nothing. 19:38 >> That's what most people 19:39 say, but the truth is it's 19:41 still worth $100. 19:43 Unless I burn it up and 19:44 disappear the serial number, I 19:47 can take this to the bank and 19:48 they will give me a new one. 19:50 And here's the illustration: 19:52 we come into this world 19:56 worthy and valuable, it's how 19:58 God created us, we're precious. 20:00 I mean, I have four children. 20:03 Every one of them came into 20:04 this world as priceless. 20:06 I could not put any kind of a 20:09 price on any one of my 20:10 children. 20:11 I would die for that child. 20:13 And that's how we come into 20:14 this world and that's how 20:16 God sees us. 20:17 But then things happen to us. 20:20 People come along and they 20:22 abuse us, they bully us, they 20:25 betray us, they abandon us. 20:28 Sometimes the most hurtful 20:29 things are done by parents 20:31 themselves, but it could be 20:32 teachers or fellow students, 20:34 classmates. 20:36 And so we begin to feel that 20:39 we're not important, we're not 20:41 valuable that we're just 20:43 worthless and that's where the 20:45 cycle begins, the cycle of 20:47 shame, of feeling shame, 20:49 never good enough. 20:52 But the truth is we are God's 20:54 children and He sees us as 20:56 worthy and valuable. 20:59 I don't have to prove that 21:02 anymore to anybody. 21:04 I don't even have to prove it 21:05 to myself anymore. 21:07 I am enough, regardless. 21:10 My sins, my mistakes do not 21:13 define me, my imperfections do 21:16 not define me. 21:18 I am enough. 21:20 This is all I needed to know 21:22 and all I need to know. 21:24 ♪The love of God 21:26 ♪is greater far 21:28 ♪Than tongue or pen 21:31 ♪can ever tell 21:34 ♪It goes beyond 21:36 ♪the highest star 21:39 ♪And reaches to 21:42 ♪the deepest hell 21:44 ♪The guilty pair 21:47 ♪bowed down with care 21:50 ♪God gave His Son to win 21:56 ♪His erring child 21:59 ♪He reconciled 22:02 ♪And pardoned from his sin 22:10 ♪Oh love of God 22:13 ♪how rich and pure 22:16 ♪How measureless and strong 22:21 ♪It shall forevermore endure 22:27 ♪The saints' and angels' song 22:35 ♪When years of time 22:38 ♪shall pass away 22:41 ♪And earthly thrones 22:43 ♪and kingdoms fall 22:46 ♪When men who here 22:49 ♪refuse to pray 22:51 ♪On rocks and hills 22:54 ♪and mountains call 22:57 ♪God's love, so sure 22:59 ♪will still endure 23:02 ♪All measureless and strong 23:06 ♪Redeeming grace 23:09 ♪to Adam's race 23:12 ♪The saints' and angels' song 23:19 ♪Oh love of God 23:22 ♪how rich and pure 23:25 ♪How measureless and strong 23:30 ♪It shall forevermore endure 23:36 ♪The saints' and angels' song 23:42 ♪♪ 23:57 ♪Could we with ink 23:59 ♪the ocean fill 24:02 ♪And were the skies 24:05 ♪of parchment made 24:07 ♪Were every stalk 24:10 ♪on earth a quill 24:13 ♪And every man 24:15 ♪a scribe by trade 24:18 ♪To write the love 24:20 ♪of God above 24:23 ♪Would drain the ocean dry 24:28 ♪Nor could the scroll 24:31 ♪contain the whole 24:33 ♪Though stretched from sky 24:36 ♪to sky 24:42 ♪The love of God 24:44 ♪how rich and pure 24:47 ♪How measureless and strong 24:53 ♪It shall forevermore endure 24:58 ♪The saints' and angels' song 25:12 >> My God is my Father. 25:15 I am His child. 25:17 He loves me, regardless. 25:19 To Him I am worthy and 25:20 valuable. 25:22 I am worthy and valuable. 25:26 This is my identity. 25:28 >> It's so true. 25:29 This is our identity and thank 25:31 you for closing on that. 25:32 I wonder if you could end with 25:34 a word of prayer for us. 25:35 >> Sure. 25:36 [MIKE] Thanks, Don. 25:37 >> Father... 25:40 What a beautiful word to be 25:41 able to say to You, the God of 25:43 the Universe and King, Abba 25:46 God, Father God, thank You for 25:49 calling us Your children and 25:52 Your friends. 25:54 Thank You for showing us, by 25:56 Your death on the cross, our 25:58 value and our worth. 26:01 I just pray that everyone that 26:03 is listening would embrace 26:04 that truth and that our 26:07 identity is in You and we 26:10 don't have to prove that value 26:11 to You or anyone else, 26:13 including ourselves. 26:15 We thank You again, in Jesus' 26:16 name, amen. 26:18 [MIKE & RENÉ] Amen. 26:20 [RENÉ] Don, Mike and I want to 26:21 thank you so much for sharing 26:23 that very important topic on 26:25 It Is Written Canada today. 26:27 >> Thank you. 26:30 >> Friends, as Don shared with 26:31 us, God's love sets us free 26:35 from addictions and we want to 26:37 give you a chance to learn 26:39 more about this freedom by 26:41 sending you our free offer 26:42 today which is Don's book 26:45 entitled Bridges to Freedom: 26:48 Creating Change Through 26:49 Science and Christian 26:50 Spirituality. 26:52 >> In Bridges To Freedom, Don 26:54 shares his analysis of 26:56 scripture and scientific 26:57 research to help you enjoy 27:00 spiritual growth, manage your 27:02 emotions, and cultivate 27:04 healthy relationships, to move 27:07 closer to the Lord, get past 27:09 your mistakes, and learn life 27:11 lessons with the essential 27:13 bridges to freedom described 27:15 in this book. 27:17 Before you go, we would also 27:19 like to invite you to follow 27:21 us on Instagram and Facebook 27:23 and subscribe to our YouTube 27:25 channel and also listen to our 27:27 Podcasts and if you go to our 27:30 website, you can see our 27:32 latest programs, including our 27:34 cooking demonstrations, our 27:36 short spiritual messages 27:38 entitled Daily Living, and our 27:40 exercise workouts called, 27:42 Experiencing Life. 27:45 >> We want you to experience 27:46 the truth that is found in the 27:48 words of Jesus when He said, 27:50 "It is written, man shall not" 27:52 "live by bread alone, but by" 27:55 "every word that proceeds out" 27:57 "of the mouth of God." 27:59 ♪♪ |
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