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Series Code: IIWC
Program Code: IIWC202125S
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00:42 >> Welcome to It Is Written
00:43 Canada. 00:44 Thank you for joining us. 00:46 Our special guest is Jacob 00:48 Hiebert, a successful 00:49 businessman, pastor, and 00:51 administrator who lived during 00:53 World War II under the rule of 00:55 communism when being a 00:57 Christian was illegal. 01:00 >> Though it was illegal to 01:01 practice Christianity, that 01:03 did not stop Jacob 01:05 and his family. 01:06 They were like Daniel's three 01:08 friends who said, "Our God 01:11 whom we serve is able to 01:14 deliver us." 01:15 Jacob, we are so looking 01:17 forward to hearing your 01:19 intriguing story, so welcome 01:21 to It Is Written Canada. 01:23 >> I'm happy to share my 01:25 experience with you. 01:27 [MIKE] Jacob, part of your 01:28 story that's so important is 01:30 your heritage, so tell us 01:32 about your heritage. 01:34 >> My ancestors came from 01:35 Holland and during The 01:37 Reformation, they changed from 01:39 Catholicism to the Mennonite 01:41 faith, the reason being they 01:43 believed that the Bible and 01:45 the Bible only should be the 01:46 rule of faith in all matters 01:48 of religious practice. 01:50 But shortly after they had 01:52 done that, the religious 01:53 persecution arose in their 01:56 homeland and they were forced 01:58 to flee and leave their 02:00 homeland, and go to Northern 02:02 Germany. 02:03 They stayed there for some 02:04 years and enjoyed religious 02:06 freedom and enjoyed the many 02:09 years of family life when, in 02:12 the later part of the 18th 02:13 century, Catherine the Great 02:15 of Russia, who was of German 02:17 decent, gave free homesteading 02:21 to all the Mennonites because 02:23 they were known for their 02:25 tilling of the soil and they 02:27 knew how to raise good crops. 02:30 And my relatives, or my 02:33 ancestors, decided they would 02:35 take up that challenge as well 02:37 and so they accepted that 02:39 offer and they moved to the 02:42 Ukraine. 02:43 They were also promised 02:45 religious freedom and they 02:47 were promised that they would 02:48 not have to bear arms in case 02:50 of a war. 02:52 It was after, around the time 02:56 that the Second World War 02:57 started, that I was born and 03:01 everything suddenly changed. 03:04 We no longer had religious 03:06 freedom, the war, of course, 03:08 was everywhere. 03:11 I come from a family of five 03:14 all together, three of my-- 03:17 two of my siblings, my sister, 03:20 brother, and myself and I'm 03:22 the youngest of the family. 03:24 I was born as the war, as the 03:26 Second World War started and 03:30 after a miraculous escape from 03:32 east to west, which took place 03:34 in 1946, we were happy to 03:40 cross the border and come to 03:41 West Germany where we had 03:44 partial freedom. 03:46 Then in 1949, our family 03:48 immigrated to Canada and 03:50 Canada is now my home. 03:52 [MIKE] So, Jacob, you were 03:54 living in communist Russia and 03:57 you were promised religious 03:58 freedom, you were also 04:00 promised that you wouldn't 04:01 have to bear arms, but that 04:03 changed with World War I. 04:06 >> Yes, my father was in World 04:07 War I and it was an 04:11 interesting experience 04:12 that he had. 04:13 The officers asked him to take 04:15 a gun and to shoot at a 04:17 certain target and so my dad 04:20 aimed and he hit the target 04:22 right on and then the officer 04:25 said, "Very good. 04:27 Try that again." 04:28 And so my father immediately 04:30 realized, "What am I doing? 04:32 If I hit that target again, 04:34 I'll be in the greatest part 04:37 of the fighting." 04:38 So my dad aimed at a target 04:40 way off and he hit that 04:43 target, but the communist 04:45 chief said, "Oh, that's not 04:47 good, that was luck the first 04:49 time," and so he didn't have 04:51 to bear arms, he was a cook. 04:54 And so in the First World War 04:56 as well as the Second World 04:58 War, he did not bear arms and 05:02 that was a leading of God, I 05:03 believe. 05:05 [MIKE] Absolutely. 05:06 But here you are, Second World 05:08 War, now you're born at that 05:09 time... 05:10 >> Yes. 05:11 [MIKE] ...leading into the 05:12 Second World War. 05:14 Now, looking at that situation, 05:16 your dad had to leave, but you 05:19 were in the middle of real hot 05:22 battle, I mean, the Germans 05:24 were coming in, but you were 05:25 German living in Russia. 05:29 How did that work out? 05:31 [JACOB] Well, sometimes we 05:32 were neither fish nor foul, we 05:34 were not Ukrainian, we were not 05:37 Russian, we were German, and 05:39 yet we were in a different 05:40 country. 05:41 But the Lord saw us through 05:44 all of those experiences and 05:47 it also affected us as far as 05:52 the people around us. 05:55 When we spoke German, they 05:58 felt that we should have 06:00 spoken Ukrainian. 06:01 [MIKE] So you weren't accepted 06:03 by the people from the Ukraine 06:06 and then when the Germans came 06:08 in, what was that like? 06:11 >> When the Germans came in, 06:12 they accepted us and they 06:14 said-- and of course, the 06:15 Germans, as we know from 06:17 history, they went far into 06:22 Russia and drove the Russians 06:25 way back. 06:27 And so then when the Russians 06:30 decided to strengthen their 06:32 forces and drove the Germans 06:34 back, the Germans said, 06:36 "You are Germans, 06:38 come out with us." 06:39 [MIKE] Did you wanna go 06:40 with them? 06:41 >> We wanted to go with them, 06:43 but the Germans had Jeeps and 06:46 tanks and motorcycles and all 06:49 kinds of vehicles and we were 06:51 on foot, we had nothing, we 06:53 were refugees. 06:54 And so they retreated a lot 06:56 faster, not because of their 06:58 choice, but because they were 07:00 forced to retreat. 07:01 And so we stayed behind and 07:04 that was a deterrent for us as 07:06 well because now the Russians 07:09 saw what the Germans had done 07:12 to their own people and then 07:14 we became their bitterest 07:16 enemies. 07:18 [MIKE] So you weren't accepted 07:20 by the Russians, you weren't 07:21 accepted-- well, now they 07:23 fled, they wanted to take you 07:26 back, but you were stuck. 07:28 >> We had no country. 07:30 [MIKE] So how did this journey 07:34 for you, this journey to 07:36 freedom, how did it take place? 07:39 Now you're in Russia, how do 07:42 you get out? 07:44 >> It was around 1925 when 07:48 religious freedom really was 07:50 taken away. 07:53 Of course communism started in 07:55 1917, but as we get closer to 07:58 1925, the Soviet Union borders 08:02 were closed and things took a 08:06 turn altogether to the worse. 08:09 My aunt and my grandmother 08:13 then immigrated to Canada, to 08:16 Ontario, Canada, and for a 08:18 long time we did not know 08:20 where they were, but later on 08:22 we found each other and that 08:25 later on helped us to know 08:29 where we wanted to immigrate to. 08:31 >> So, Jacob, can you take us 08:34 back to the miraculous story 08:38 of your escape as a family 08:40 from East Germany to West 08:42 Germany? 08:44 >> Yes, it was a rather 08:46 long procedure. 08:48 When communism first started 08:50 and we realized that religious 08:51 freedom was being taken away 08:54 and that increased or became 08:57 worse, we were under Stalin's 08:59 regime and Stalin, as you 09:01 probably know, was very 09:03 ruthless, a very ruthless 09:04 leader. 09:06 And so my father said, since 09:08 he was a minister, he said, 09:10 "We have no future here in 09:12 Russia or in the Ukraine. 09:14 We need to lay plans 09:16 to escape." 09:18 But it was easier said than 09:19 done because the war was 09:21 raging everywhere and we 09:23 couldn't just simply go on a 09:25 plane or even take a train. 09:27 All the trains were used for 09:29 the army and any 09:31 transportation, the war came 09:33 first and we came after that. 09:36 But my father said, "We need 09:37 to have a plan. 09:39 Let us decide that we are 09:41 going to go toward freedom as 09:44 much as possible." 09:45 And so we were in the southern 09:47 part of Ukraine and so 09:49 gradually we made our way from 09:51 Ukraine up to Poland, from 09:54 Poland over to East Germany 09:57 and from East Germany to West 09:58 Germany, that was the crucial 10:00 border-crossing. 10:02 Had we been caught there, I 10:04 would not be sitting here 10:05 and telling my story. 10:07 And my father said, "If we 10:10 ever get separated, we need to 10:13 have a plan so that we know 10:16 how to find each other." 10:17 A lot of people located other 10:20 members of the family through 10:21 the Red Cross, but our plan 10:24 was if we ever lost track of 10:26 each other, we would write to 10:28 our headquarters office in 10:29 Berlin, the church 10:32 headquarters office, and would 10:34 ask, "Has anyone seen a lady 10:39 with three children and 10:41 another lady with them?" 10:44 Or my-- or we would say, "Has 10:48 anyone seen a tall man, David 10:52 Hiebert..." and so forth. 10:54 So what will happen then is if 10:57 we would write to the 10:59 headquarters office and my 11:01 mother would write to the 11:02 headquarters office, and 11:04 supposedly both letters would 11:06 arrive there somewhat around 11:09 the same time, one letter 11:11 would be put into the other 11:13 one and sent to the other party 11:15 of-- and then one party would 11:17 know where the other one is. 11:19 And so in the meantime now, of 11:21 course, we had lost track of 11:23 each other, but as we were 11:25 getting closer to our goal, we 11:28 did find, and I will tell that 11:30 story shortly, of how we were 11:32 reunited with my father. 11:36 But at the time that we 11:37 crossed the border, he had 11:40 been with us for only a few 11:42 days and we decided that we 11:44 need to cross now. 11:46 My father was now in charge of 11:47 the family and he inquired, 11:51 "What would be the best way 11:52 to cross?" 11:54 He heard about a man who was a 11:56 guide, acted as a guide, to 11:58 lead people across for a small 12:00 fee because most people didn't 12:02 have much money at that time. 12:05 And so he immediately got in 12:07 touch with that guide, he 12:09 wasn't very far from where we 12:11 were staying right then, and 12:13 he asked the guide, "Would you 12:15 lead us, our family, across 12:17 the border?" 12:18 "Well, how many of you are 12:19 there?" 12:20 "Well, there's six of us." 12:21 "Six of you? 12:22 Well, that's not going to be 12:23 so easy." 12:24 "Alright," he said, "I will 12:26 consider it." 12:28 But as the time came closer, 12:31 he told us he changed his 12:33 mind, he will not do that 12:35 because just the night before 12:38 when he was planning to lead 12:39 us across the border, he led a 12:41 family across and they were 12:43 almost caught and he said, 12:45 "It's not worth it to me, you 12:47 can give me all the money that 12:48 you have," which we didn't 12:50 have anyway, "but I will not 12:52 lead you across. 12:54 We would-- it's too 12:55 dangerous." 12:56 My father was not a man who 12:58 would not be put off too 13:02 easily and so he said, 13:04 "Alright, if you won't lead us 13:06 across the border, tell us 13:08 when would you lead us across 13:10 the border if you did? 13:12 What time would you go? 13:14 Where would you go? 13:16 What advice would you give us?" 13:18 The guide told us, "If I would 13:20 lead you across the border, I 13:22 would lead you across early in 13:23 the morning. 13:25 You see, there are several 13:26 shifts of the patrolling 13:27 officers. 13:29 The early shift, or the night 13:30 shift, by about 5:30 in the 13:34 morning, they are tired and 13:36 they are ready to go off the 13:38 shift and they're not as 13:40 careful as they were when they 13:42 first came on the shift and at 13:45 that time the morning shift 13:47 hasn't taken over and so that 13:48 is your best time. 13:50 Also, you need to cross in an 13:52 area that is quite wooded, 13:55 a lot of trees, not thick 13:57 forest, but a lot of trees, 13:59 and what you need to do is you 14:02 need to follow this particular 14:03 road and, presently, you will 14:06 come to a railroad track on 14:07 the side." 14:09 Now, on each side of the 14:11 railroad track there were 14:13 little stakes and with 14:15 insulators they had a wire 14:17 attached to those stakes. 14:19 And so he said, "If you touch 14:21 those wires, they don't have 14:25 electricity in them, but they 14:27 send off a signal, sort of a 14:29 "zing" signal, and if that 14:32 happens, that alerts the 14:34 guards right away and your 14:35 escape story is all finished." 14:38 We were travelling at this time 14:40 with all our earthly goods. 14:41 We had two bicycles, we didn't 14:43 ride them, we packed bags of 14:46 clothes and whatever we had 14:48 left onto these bicycles and 14:52 guided them on our way and 14:54 were walking toward the 14:55 border. 14:57 He said, "When you get to that 14:59 railroad tracks, make sure 15:01 that you lift those bicycles 15:02 over that wire. 15:04 Otherwise you're in trouble." 15:06 So we did as we were told and 15:09 we would follow his directions. 15:11 But before we started, my 15:13 father talked to my brother 15:15 and me, we were young boys at 15:18 the time, you know, and so he 15:20 said, "Look, boys, if you fall 15:23 in the process of us crossing 15:26 and you hurt yourself badly 15:28 that the blood is even 15:29 running, do not make a sound 15:32 because if you make a sound, 15:35 if you cry, we are all dead." 15:37 Well, we understood that. 15:39 And so early in the morning we 15:43 had prayer and we decided to 15:45 follow the directions that the 15:46 guide gave us. 15:48 He also told us that this path 15:50 that we would see after we 15:51 crossed the railroad tracks 15:53 was a path that would lead us 15:54 into the wooded area, but we 15:57 needed to be careful not to 15:59 veer off that path because as 16:01 we continued on that path, we 16:03 would presently come to a 16:05 broken-down fence and gate and 16:08 as we crossed there, then we 16:12 would come to German territory. 16:14 And so it seemed very simple. 16:16 Of course, early in the 16:18 morning, 5:30 as I recall, we 16:21 had special prayer and we 16:23 asked our guide who'd never 16:24 lost a battle, who never left 16:27 us alone, we asked Him to 16:30 guide us and to direct us. 16:32 And we were off. 16:34 Well, presently, we saw 16:35 everything as the guide had 16:36 said, there were the railroad 16:38 tracks, there was the wire, we 16:41 were very careful, we were 16:43 successful crossing that and 16:45 then we saw the path and we 16:47 were excited. 16:49 We went down the path. 16:51 The sun had not come up yet 16:54 and so it was a little dark, 16:57 but we proceeded on the path 16:58 and we were all excited. 17:00 Soon we would be free. 17:02 When all of a sudden, in the 17:04 distance, we saw the form of a 17:06 man and we froze, as it were, 17:10 but we had gone too far, he 17:11 saw us and we saw him. 17:13 We did not know exactly who he 17:15 was and as he came closer, we 17:17 realized that he was in a 17:19 uniform and that caused even 17:22 more fear to our hearts. 17:25 So as he approached us, he 17:28 said to my father, "Escaping?" 17:32 What could my father say? 17:33 "Yes." 17:35 "Oh," he said," not that way. 17:37 You are headed right toward a 17:38 patrol guard. 17:41 You need to retrace your steps 17:43 and then you will come to that 17:45 path you were told to go on." 17:48 Well, my father was really 17:50 afraid and fear always seized 17:53 us so as he, at first, hadn't 17:57 noticed that the uniform that 18:00 this man had, he was a 18:03 forestry officer, not a 18:05 soldier and so we were much 18:07 relieved. 18:09 And he was very kind, he told 18:11 us not to be afraid, to correct 18:13 our steps and then we would 18:16 get back on the right path and 18:18 keep going. 18:20 Well, we were excited. 18:22 How could we fail now? 18:24 And so we kept on walking. 18:26 We found where we had gone 18:28 wrong and as we continued on, 18:31 again we met someone in 18:34 uniform and we were really 18:37 in fear. 18:38 What would happen now? 18:41 Again, the second time, it was 18:43 a forestry officer, not the 18:45 same man, a different man. 18:47 And this repeated three times. 18:51 The third forestry officer 18:53 said to us, "Now, don't be 18:55 afraid," I think he recognized 18:57 on our-- the expression of our 18:59 face that we were-- we had 19:01 gone through quite an ordeal 19:02 and we just couldn't take 19:04 much more. 19:06 He said, "Don't be afraid." 19:07 "You don't have very far to go. 19:09 Very soon you will see that 19:11 broken-down fence and that 19:13 gate that's hanging on one 19:14 hinge, you cross there 19:16 and you will be in German 19:18 territory, West Germany, 19:19 you will be free. 19:21 Well, we were excited and, 19:23 true to his word, very soon we 19:26 saw that broken-down fence and 19:28 gate and we crossed there and 19:30 we were so excited when, all 19:33 of a sudden, we saw an army 19:36 officer on a bicycle, 19:38 whistling a tune, coming right 19:40 toward us and we were just 19:43 frozen in our tracks. 19:45 But he didn't pay any 19:46 attention to us. 19:47 He whistled a tune, kept right 19:49 on going and we realized, oh, 19:52 this was a West German officer 19:54 and he was used to the fact 19:55 that quite a few refugees 19:57 escaped and he was quite happy 20:00 to welcome us because we, too, 20:01 were Germans. 20:03 >> So, Jacob, there were six 20:05 of you. 20:06 So it was you, your mom and 20:08 your dad... 20:09 >> Yes. 20:10 >> ...and then your auntie... 20:12 >> Yes. 20:13 >> ...and then two-- another 20:15 brother and a sister. 20:16 [JACOB] Brother and a sister. 20:18 >> OK, so what were your ages 20:20 roughly? 20:21 [JACOB] I was six at the time, 20:22 my brother was 11 and my 20:24 sister was 19. 20:26 >> And then the two bicycles 20:28 with all your stuff that you 20:29 had to pick up over the wire. 20:32 And God obviously, those-- 20:35 when I read your book, those 20:37 forestry officers, I'm sure 20:39 they were angels. 20:41 >> We want to ask, when we get 20:43 to heaven, we want to ask 20:44 which one of the angels were 20:46 sent, it'll be interesting. 20:49 But as we crossed the border, 20:51 we were, of course, delighted 20:54 when we were far enough away 20:56 from the border, we made a 20:58 little pause and thanked the 21:00 Lord for His leading and as we 21:03 met people, they asked us, 21:05 "How many of you were there 21:07 crossing the border this last 21:08 night... or morning?" 21:10 We said, "Six of us." 21:12 They said, "Six of you? 21:14 Who has ever heard that? 21:15 And none of you had been 21:18 harmed?" 21:19 "No, we all made it." 21:22 And it was really interesting 21:24 because that same night there 21:27 were about, a number of, I'm 21:31 not sure exactly how many, but 21:33 a number of young men who 21:35 decided to storm the border 21:37 and only ten of them made it, 21:40 most of them were shot. 21:42 And we talked to those people 21:44 while we were on the train on 21:47 West German soil. 21:49 As we came across, the West 21:51 German government, because we 21:53 were refugees and had nothing, 21:55 we were able to ride the train 21:57 free until they would get us 21:58 to a place where we could 22:00 have accommodation. 22:04 >> So you made it to Canada. 22:06 What was it like for you just 22:07 going to school, trying to 22:09 make it, like, it wasn't easy 22:11 for you, was it? 22:12 >> No. 22:14 We came to Canada in 1949 and, 22:17 of course, we had to pay for 22:20 our trip so that was all 22:22 borrowed money and my dad was 22:24 the only wage-earner in the 22:26 family at the time and so when 22:29 it came to my education, I got 22:31 the basic training, grade 8. 22:34 Later on I took some 22:36 correspondence and tried to 22:37 finish up high school, but we 22:39 really didn't have money for a 22:41 lot of education, especially 22:42 university training. 22:45 And so I settled down with my 22:48 family, we had a young family 22:49 at this time. 22:51 Our youngest child was born-- 22:54 our oldest child was born and 22:57 we had another one on the way 23:00 and decided that we would 23:03 settle down on a farming 23:05 operation. 23:06 It was quite a rocky start, 23:08 but it ended up quite well 23:11 for us financially. 23:13 After four years we had 23:15 everything paid for in our 23:17 farming business. 23:19 And since I had always wanted 23:20 to become a minister, at that 23:22 point, the thought came to me, 23:25 "This is what you wanted to do. 23:27 If you sold everything you had 23:29 now, you would have enough 23:31 money to go through 23:32 university," that is seven 23:34 years of university, to finish 23:36 my ministry. 23:38 We prayed about it, we invited 23:40 our pastor to come and visit 23:42 with us and we told him all 23:44 the pros and cons of where we 23:46 found ourselves and asked him 23:48 what his thought was. 23:50 Just a week before that, 23:53 another young couple had 23:54 talked to that same pastor of 23:56 ours and they were anxious to 23:58 go to school to train for the 24:00 ministry and he advised them 24:02 that that would not be a good 24:04 idea because the financial 24:06 burden that they had, that 24:08 would not work. 24:09 And I said to my wife, "You 24:11 know, the pastor will probably 24:12 tell us it's a bad idea, just 24:14 stay where you are." 24:16 But no, when he heard our 24:18 story and said, "I can tell 24:19 you nothing else but go for it. 24:22 I believe the Lord is 24:23 leading you." 24:25 So we needed another miracle 24:27 now, we needed to sell our 24:29 place and I said to my wife, I 24:32 said, "You know, if we sell 24:33 our place, we can't afford a 24:36 real estate agent, if we can 24:38 sell without any commission, 24:41 we would have enough money for 24:43 seven years where I would have 24:44 no earnings and where we would 24:45 only have expenses to see 24:47 us through university. 24:50 Mind you, also at this time, 24:52 some of this time, our 24:54 children were of the age where 24:55 they went to school and we had 24:57 to pay for them for church 24:58 school. 25:00 So the Lord was good in a 25:02 marvellous way. 25:03 So one Friday afternoon, three 25:05 men came to our door and they 25:08 said, "We heard that your 25:09 place was for sale, just by 25:11 word of mouth, and is that 25:13 true?" 25:14 "Yes," I said. 25:16 "Alright, we are interested in 25:17 your place and we want to see 25:19 everything." 25:20 I said, "You know, today is 25:21 Friday, tomorrow is my Sabbath 25:24 and I have a lot of work to do 25:26 to get ready for the Sabbath, 25:27 why don't you come back on 25:29 Monday?" 25:30 Well, they would not hear of 25:31 it, they said, "Look, can you 25:33 spare even a little bit of 25:34 time for us? 25:36 Show us briefly the buildings, 25:38 the house and so forth and 25:41 then we will be on our way and 25:43 will come back on Monday." 25:44 But they insisted before they 25:46 left, "We want to give you a 25:48 sizable down payment on this 25:51 property so that you won't 25:53 sell it to somebody else." 25:55 So we did that, they went on 25:58 their way and this miracle, it 26:02 was a real miracle that God 26:03 performed. 26:05 >> Jacob, unfortunately we 26:07 have run out of time and I'm 26:10 gonna have to ask you to pray 26:12 for us as we close this 26:14 episode together. 26:15 [JACOB] Alright, let us pray. 26:17 Gracious Father in heaven, we 26:19 do thank Thee so much that we 26:21 can call Thee our Father and 26:23 that You love Your children 26:25 more than even earthly parents 26:26 love them. 26:28 We thank Thee so much, Lord, 26:29 that we can look back in our 26:30 lives and know exactly where 26:33 You have intervened on our 26:35 behalf, where You have saved 26:37 us, where You have directed 26:39 us, and, Lord, we want to take 26:41 this time to thank Thee from 26:43 the bottom of our hearts and 26:45 we pray that You would never 26:47 leave us as You have promised 26:49 and continue to guide us 26:51 through to the end until 26:52 You come. 26:53 We pray in Jesus' name, amen. 26:55 >> Amen. 26:56 Thank you so much, Jacob, for 26:59 sharing your story to this 27:00 point and we look forward to 27:02 meeting with you again 27:03 next week. 27:04 >> My pleasure. 27:06 >> Friends, our free offer 27:08 today was written by Pastor 27:10 Jacob Hiebert. 27:12 It is his story entitled, 27:14 Freedom's Journey. 27:15 This book details the full 27:18 story of how Jacob and his 27:20 family were determined to 27:22 follow God no matter what. 27:25 >> Their heart-stopping 27:26 journey displays the signs of 27:28 God's hand leading His 27:30 children in such a 27:32 faith-building story. 27:35 Freedom's Journey reveals how 27:38 we serve a great God who is 27:40 able to lead you, too, when 27:42 you put your trust in Him. 27:45 Before you go, we would also 27:47 like to invite you to follow 27:50 us on Instagram and Facebook 27:52 and subscribe to our YouTube 27:54 channel, and also listen to 27:56 our Podcasts and if you go to 27:59 our website, you can see our 28:01 latest programs, including 28:03 our cooking demonstrations, 28:05 our short spiritual messages 28:07 entitled, Daily Living, and 28:10 our exercise workouts called, 28:12 Experiencing Life. 28:14 >> We want you to experience 28:15 the truth that is found in the 28:17 words of Jesus when He said, 28:19 "It is written, 'man shall not 28:21 live by bread alone, but by 28:23 every word that proceeds out 28:25 of the mouth of God.'" 28:27 ♪ |
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