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00:01 >> Hello and welcome to It Is
00:02 Written Canada. 00:04 Let me ask you a question, how 00:06 do you feel about the future? 00:08 How do you deal with the 00:10 unexpected? 00:12 >> The truth is that life can 00:13 be so unpredictable. 00:15 Beautiful blessings and 00:17 distressing difficulties, joys 00:19 and sorrows can come 00:21 unexpectedly. 00:22 >> Our life's dreams and plans 00:24 can change in an instant. 00:27 >> Because we all know this to 00:28 be true, there is so much 00:30 anxiety and fear for the 00:32 future. 00:33 >> So how can we find peace and 00:35 hope in the midst of such 00:37 unpredictability? 00:39 >> Horatio Spafford was a 00:40 successful attorney and real 00:42 estate investor who lost a 00:44 fortune in 1871. 00:47 >> Around the same time, his 00:48 dearly loved four-year-old son 00:51 died of scarlet fever. 00:53 >> Thinking a vacation would do 00:55 his family some good, he sent 00:57 his wife and four daughters on 00:59 a ship to England, planning to 01:01 join them after he finished 01:03 some pressing business at home. 01:05 [MIKE] However, while crossing 01:07 the Atlantic Ocean, the ship 01:09 was involved in a terrible 01:11 collision and sunk, drowning 01:12 more than 200 people, including 01:15 all four of Horatio Spafford's 01:17 precious daughters. 01:19 [RENÉ] His wife, Anna, survived 01:21 the tragedy and upon arriving 01:22 in England, she sent a telegram 01:24 to her husband that read, 01:26 "Saved. Alone. 01:28 What shall I do?" 01:29 [MIKE] Horatio immediately set 01:32 sail for England. 01:33 [RENÉ] At one point during his 01:35 voyage, the captain of the 01:36 ship, aware of the tragedy that 01:38 had struck the Spafford family, 01:41 summoned Horatio to tell him 01:43 that they were now passing over 01:44 the spot where the shipwreck 01:46 had occurred. 01:48 [MIKE] As Horatio thought about 01:50 his daughters, words of comfort 01:52 and hope filled his heart and 01:54 mind and he wrote them down and 01:57 they have since become a 01:59 well-loved and well-known 02:01 Christian hymn. 02:02 [René reading] 02:16 >> Our special guest on It Is 02:18 Written Canada today is Joy 02:20 Astolfi, a mental health 02:22 clinician who, through her own 02:23 journey, has learned life 02:26 lessons that have enabled her 02:27 to help many people experience 02:29 hope and healing, guiding them 02:32 to put their faith in a loving 02:34 God and trusting in His divine 02:36 help to confidently say, "It is 02:39 well, it is well with my soul." 02:45 ♪♪ 03:26 >> Joy, welcome to It Is 03:28 Written Canada. 03:30 >> Well, thank you, Mike and 03:31 René, so much for having me, 03:32 it's great to be here. 03:34 >> So, Joy, you grew up in the 03:35 amazing province of 03:37 Saskatchewan and that I'm sure 03:39 influenced you as a child. 03:41 Do you wanna tell us 03:42 about that? 03:42 >> Sure. 03:44 I was born and raised in a 03:45 small town east central 03:46 Saskatchewan to parents of 03:48 European descent who had a very 03:50 strong work ethic and wanted to 03:52 instill that in us as well. 03:55 And so at one point in time, we 03:57 were each involved in working 03:59 in one of Dad's businesses and, 04:00 of course, my mother thought 04:01 that it was important also that 04:03 we should have some practical 04:04 skills so we learned to do some 04:06 responsibilities and chores 04:07 around the house as well. 04:09 And even though as a child 04:10 sometimes you think you might 04:12 be really hard done by, I am so 04:14 grateful for the moral and 04:16 ethical upbringing and 04:17 certainly the work ethic that 04:18 my parents instilled in me. 04:20 >> Joy, do you have any more 04:22 childhood memories that you can 04:23 share with us? 04:25 [JOY] Yes, my parents were very 04:27 active people and they really 04:30 put their money where their 04:31 mouth was in terms of being 04:33 active in community things and 04:35 spiritual activities that 04:36 interested them. 04:38 My parents were also very 04:40 conscientious charitable donors 04:42 to a number of organizations 04:44 and one of my fond memories is 04:45 growing up and we had this 04:47 calendar on our wall in our 04:49 kitchen and it was from the 04:52 Orange Benevolent Society and I 04:54 came later to find out that 04:56 there was a home, an Orange 04:57 Benevolent home, in Indian 04:59 Head, Saskatchewan and I didn't 05:01 even know as a child what that 05:03 word, "benevolent," meant, but, 05:05 Mike, when I heard your 05:06 testimony, I was so touched 05:08 because it was really something 05:10 that came home thinking that 05:11 maybe my parents had possibly 05:13 had some influence in your own 05:15 upbringing because of their 05:16 generosity and that generosity 05:19 and desire to help people was 05:21 something that was certainly 05:22 transferred onto me. 05:23 >> So someone might be watching 05:25 and doesn't know, I grew up in 05:26 an orphanage in Indian Head, 05:28 Saskatchewan which is not too 05:30 far from where you lived and 05:32 your parents were contributing 05:33 to that organization. 05:35 >> Yes. 05:36 [MIKE] It's a small world. 05:37 >> It is a very small world. 05:39 >> So, Joy, continue with some 05:41 of the other childhood memories 05:42 you had. 05:43 >> Sure. 05:44 My mother was a very 05:46 compassionate person and she 05:47 had a particular desire to help 05:49 people that were going through 05:51 pain and suffering and I 05:53 believe that that was instilled 05:55 in me as well and ended up 05:56 coming out in my career and one 05:58 of the memories that I have was 06:00 that my mom would consistently 06:01 invite people to holiday 06:03 dinners and events that people 06:06 that would probably be at home 06:07 alone and lonely, people with 06:08 nowhere else to go, or that 06:10 wouldn't be able to reciprocate 06:11 her hospitality and this was a 06:13 very common event in our home. 06:15 So my parents also had many 06:17 causes and things that they 06:19 believed in and so they 06:21 actively pursued those things 06:22 and wanted to be contributors 06:24 not just within our family, but 06:25 also in the community. 06:27 >> Joy, did you have any 06:29 challenges going up? 06:31 >> Yes, I did. 06:33 My teenage and adolescent years 06:34 in particular were very 06:36 difficult for me. 06:37 I had a number of very dark 06:39 days and dark years, not really 06:41 realizing what was going on 06:43 inside of me. 06:45 I didn't really talk with 06:46 people much about it, didn't 06:47 really share much, but looking 06:49 back now with the education, 06:50 the experience I have, I can 06:52 say I was probably experiencing 06:54 depression and at times was 06:56 requiring clinical intervention. 06:59 In particular, in my early 07:01 adult years while I was in 07:02 college, I experienced the loss 07:04 of my grandmother and she was 07:06 very close to me and this made 07:09 an already serious situation 07:11 even more intense because I was 07:13 feeling the loss of her 07:15 combined with the existing 07:17 depression already. 07:19 And I didn't realize that life 07:21 didn't have to be this way and 07:23 that that wasn't normal. 07:25 >> So, Joy, now that you know 07:27 what you know about the 07:28 development of the brain and 07:29 you're in mental health 07:30 commission, how do you 07:32 understand what you were going 07:33 through at that time? 07:34 >> Yes, hindsight can be 20/20. 07:36 In retrospect, knowing what I 07:38 know now, I can see that I was 07:40 struggling with a very common 07:43 stage of development that many 07:45 young people go through and 07:47 that is the final stage of 07:49 development of the part of the 07:50 brain called the frontal lobe 07:52 and this process starts between 07:53 the ages of 12 to 14 and it 07:56 doesn't usually finish 'til 07:57 between the ages of 25 to 30 07:59 and depending on what a 08:00 person's going through, 08:01 sometimes that could be 08:03 even longer. 08:04 And what we know about this and 08:05 what's so critical, is that 08:07 during this time, the higher 08:09 levels of executive functioning 08:11 of our brain are developing. 08:12 So things like our critical 08:14 thinking, cause and effect, 08:16 decision-making, 08:18 problem-solving, our emotional 08:20 regulation and control, our 08:23 behavioural control, as well as 08:25 our personality development. 08:27 Our spirituality and morality 08:28 are also housed in this part of 08:30 the brain and so how that part 08:32 develops and the influences 08:34 that we have during this time 08:35 can impact us for the rest of 08:37 our lives. 08:39 >> Joy, do you think you would 08:40 have been better prepared to 08:42 deal with your mental health 08:43 struggles at this time if you 08:45 had this knowledge? 08:47 >> There are many things that 08:49 can happen during this time of 08:50 life to interrupt and/or to 08:52 positively or negatively impact 08:53 this time of life and 08:55 development which, of course, 08:56 influences the rest of 08:57 our lives. 08:58 And at the time, I didn't 09:00 really understand what was 09:01 going on with me, I didn't have 09:03 the information available and 09:04 so in retrospect, understanding 09:07 that, I wish there were some 09:08 things that I would have known. 09:10 But the research wasn't there, 09:12 it wasn't widely talked about, 09:14 and many of my friends and 09:16 schoolmates suffered in 09:18 silence, some not so silently, 09:20 and we were impacted by this 09:21 but we didn't really know what 09:23 was going on within us and when 09:24 you take that in conjunction 09:27 with regular adolescent 09:29 development and the hormonal 09:30 things that are going on and 09:32 all the rest of it, it leaves 09:35 that little being really 09:37 confused and all over the map. 09:38 So there's a lot going on and 09:40 we don't even have the words to 09:42 put to it. 09:44 So, yes, in retrospect, had I 09:45 had some information and 09:47 knowledge that we do now, we 09:49 could have possibly helped many 09:51 of us to not have struggled 09:52 so much. 09:53 You know, our parents and 09:55 teachers and those involved in 09:56 our lives really did the best 09:57 with the information that we 09:59 had at the time, but we just 10:00 didn't have what we do today. 10:02 So, yes, it would've been nice. 10:04 Many times teens and 10:06 adolescents are just looking 10:07 for ways to cope with this 10:08 difficult time of life and what 10:10 happens is when they feel that 10:11 they don't have somewhere to go 10:13 or somebody to turn to, they 10:15 will turn to substances, 10:16 unhealthy relationships and 10:18 activities. 10:19 Unfortunately, this can then 10:20 end up having life-long impacts 10:22 of addictions and unhealthy 10:24 relationship patterns. 10:26 And often times, they're just 10:28 looking for ways to find 10:29 solutions and they just don't 10:30 really know how to cope and 10:32 sometimes the people around 10:33 them don't realize what those 10:35 needs are and aren't able to 10:36 help them either. 10:38 >> So, Joy, it's a time of 10:40 struggle, adolescence, you were 10:42 making difficult decisions, how 10:44 was that affecting your 10:46 spiritual development? 10:48 >> Well, during those 10:49 troublesome years, I made a lot 10:51 of decisions that impacted my 10:53 frontal lobe and some of them 10:54 with permanent consequences and 10:56 our spiritual life is also 10:57 housed in our frontal lobe, and 10:59 at the same time, you're trying 11:01 to make career choices and life 11:03 choices and things compound and 11:05 not really knowing where to go 11:07 and where to turn, so my 11:08 spiritual life was impacted in 11:10 that I didn't really have one. 11:13 God still had a plan for me and 11:15 that came clear later, but at 11:17 the time there were very, very 11:18 serious and dark days and 11:20 combined with that was the fact 11:21 that I had also some health 11:23 issues going on, the particular 11:25 condition that I had for over 11:27 ten years and that further 11:29 impacted my ability to function 11:32 spiritually in a healthy way. 11:35 >> So, Joy, what brought you to 11:37 your current career as a mental 11:39 health clinician? 11:41 >> From a very early age I can 11:42 remember having a genuine 11:43 interest and compassion 11:45 in people. 11:46 I can remember specifically at 11:47 the age of four when I was at a 11:50 friend's home and I was sitting 11:51 in their kitchen having an 11:53 adult conversation with her 11:54 mother instead of playing with 11:56 my friend. 11:58 And as an adolescent and in 12:00 high school, I can remember 12:02 people coming to talk with me 12:03 to confide in me, not simply 12:05 because of their problems, but 12:06 also to discuss issues and 12:08 various other things. 12:09 So I kind of came by it 12:11 naturally, however, my number 12:13 one goal and plan was to become 12:15 a corporate lawyer. 12:16 And so I started out in college 12:18 as a business major, however, 12:21 what happened was that various 12:22 choices, relationships and the 12:24 resulting death of my 12:26 grandmother, impacted that and 12:28 so life took another turn. 12:30 I was able to complete an 12:31 undergraduate degree in 12:32 psychology with a business 12:34 minor. 12:35 My hopes were to get into human 12:36 resources, but God had other 12:38 plans. 12:39 At the time of my graduation, 12:41 the economy had taken a 12:42 significant downturn and so the 12:44 jobs in HR were primarily 12:45 focused on massive downsizings. 12:48 So, desperate to want to start 12:50 paying off student loans and to 12:52 get working, I contacted a 12:53 friend of mine who suggested 12:55 that I contact one of their 12:57 relatives who happened to work 12:59 in the human services field and 13:00 that that would maybe tide me 13:02 over until we could work in 13:03 HR-- and resume a career in HR. 13:07 God had other plans. 13:09 So this suggestion led me to 13:11 working for-- in a non-profit at 13:14 a group home with troubled 13:15 youth and the rest we can say 13:18 is history. 13:20 [MIKE] And, Joy, the rest was 13:22 history, what happened next? 13:25 >> My work with troubled youth 13:26 then led me to the U.S. where I 13:28 expanded my knowledge and 13:29 experience in the areas in 13:31 particular of gangs and other 13:32 criminal organizations. 13:34 I was able to work with the law 13:37 enforcement and probation in 13:38 our county to establish some 13:41 programs and interventions to 13:43 address these issues that were 13:45 happening in our community. 13:46 This experience was one of the 13:48 richest of my whole life and 13:49 was a springboard of things 13:50 to come. 13:51 >> So, Joy, what brought you 13:53 back to Canada then? 13:56 >> So due to ongoing health 13:57 concerns, I came back to Canada 13:59 and continued to struggle 14:00 through life. 14:02 I chose to work alongside law 14:05 enforcement and in corrections 14:07 with youth as a volunteer while 14:09 working in the corporate world. 14:11 So in 2002 my spiritual life 14:13 took a pivotal turn. 14:16 I had a friend that knew that I 14:17 was struggling and she 14:18 introduced me to a Bible study 14:20 and she was very insistent and 14:21 this was really tugging at me 14:23 that this was a direction that 14:24 I should go and for the first 14:26 time in my life, I realized 14:27 that God and Jesus Christ was 14:29 real, that they wanted to have 14:31 a real relationship with me and 14:32 that this was actually possible 14:34 and not just something you hear 14:35 about or that just happens for 14:36 certain people. 14:38 Once I turned my health, life, 14:40 and career over to God, things 14:42 began to change rapidly and 14:43 doors opened to me that I never 14:45 dreamed were possible. 14:47 And finally I can say it was 14:49 well with my soul. 14:54 ♪♪ 15:12 ♪ When peace like a river 15:20 ♪ attendeth my way 15:26 ♪ When sorrows 15:30 ♪ like sea billows roll 15:42 ♪ Whatever my lot 15:48 ♪ Thou hast taught 15:51 ♪ me to say 15:55 ♪ It is well, it is well 16:02 ♪ with my soul 16:08 ♪♪ 16:20 ♪ My sin, oh the joy 16:26 ♪ of this glorious thought 16:34 ♪ My sin, not in part 16:40 ♪ but the whole 16:47 ♪ Is nailed to the cross 16:53 ♪ and I bear it no more 17:00 ♪ Praise the Lord 17:03 ♪ praise the Lord 17:07 ♪ Oh my soul 17:14 ♪ It is well (it is well) 17:22 ♪ With my soul (with my soul) 17:29 ♪ It is well, it is well 17:36 ♪ with my soul 17:41 ♪ And Lord, haste the day 17:48 ♪ when my faith shall be sight 17:56 ♪ The clouds be rolled back 18:02 ♪ as a scroll 18:10 ♪ The trump shall resound 18:16 ♪ and the Lord shall descend 18:22 ♪ Even so, it is well 18:29 ♪ with my soul 18:36 ♪ It is well (it is well) 18:44 ♪ With my soul (with my soul) 18:51 ♪ It is well, it is well 18:59 ♪ with my soul 19:03 ♪ It is well 19:07 ♪ with my soul 19:14 ♪♪ 19:35 >> So, Joy, your friend 19:37 insisted that you read the 19:39 Bible and that was a 19:41 transformational experience, 19:42 you could see the love of God 19:44 and you experienced that it was 19:45 well with your soul, you had a 19:46 rich experience. 19:48 What happened next? 19:50 >> Well, I was able to attain 19:52 some vital information that 19:53 helped me to address the 19:54 autoimmune illness that I had 19:56 struggled with for so long. 19:57 And so as I got stronger, 20:00 physically and mentally, I was 20:02 able to reconsider going back 20:04 into the mental health field to 20:06 pursue graduate studies and then 20:08 end the physical and career 20:09 paralysis that I had been 20:11 experiencing. 20:13 So this opened up doors for me. 20:15 Through God's intervention and 20:17 provision, I was able to attain 20:19 a position in corrections while 20:20 working on my masters program. 20:23 Both of these opportunities 20:25 were something I certainly did 20:26 not expect and every day in 20:28 corrections was exciting, never 20:30 dull, and I-- those young 20:34 people still have a very, very 20:35 special place in my heart to 20:37 this very day and I would've 20:39 probably stayed there, but God 20:40 had other plans and He had 20:42 other opportunities and things 20:44 that He wanted to show me. 20:46 So it is my privilege today to 20:49 continue my passion in 20:51 corrections by volunteering in 20:52 a federal corrections committee 20:54 which I enjoy very much and 20:55 it's also been my privilege to 20:57 visit eight different 20:58 correctional facilities in four 21:00 countries and I count this as a 21:01 huge gift from God to be able 21:02 to do that, too. 21:04 [RENÉ] So, Joy, what other 21:05 challenges did you end up 21:07 facing? 21:08 >> Well, during grad school, I 21:10 experienced a severe car 21:11 accident that some of the 21:13 injuries to which I still 21:15 suffer from today, and in spite 21:17 of that, God still saw me 21:18 through to complete my masters 21:20 program which was a very, very 21:21 challenging and gruelling 21:23 experience. 21:25 Through that I have seen Him 21:27 work in other ways in my life. 21:29 Little by little God's shown me 21:30 that His way is best and He has 21:32 ways and ideas for us that we 21:34 can't even possibly imagine. 21:36 I had to go through my own 21:38 physical and mental healing in 21:40 order to effective and to do 21:42 the work that I do today. 21:44 This is no easy task, it can be 21:46 very daunting and it can take 21:47 us a lot of work. 21:49 However, it's worth it. 21:52 My personal experience and that 21:53 of my patients and clients is 21:55 testimony to the fact that no 21:58 matter what has happened to 21:59 you, no matter what you've been 22:01 through in your life, the 22:02 difficult circumstances, the 22:03 developmental challenges that 22:05 you've had, there is always 22:06 hope, there's hope for a 22:08 future. 22:09 Every single human being has a 22:11 purpose and a reason for 22:13 being alive. 22:15 Every single person has value 22:18 and I take that into my work 22:19 with me every day because I 22:22 really truly believe it and I 22:23 see it and it's a real 22:25 privilege to be able to do the 22:26 work that I do and to work with 22:29 people, it's a sacred trust 22:31 when you work with people in 22:32 this capacity and I just thank 22:33 God for giving me the 22:35 opportunities that He has 22:36 to do this. 22:37 It is possible to be free from 22:40 all types of debilitating mood 22:42 disorders, grief and loss, 22:45 trauma, and all types of pain. 22:48 >> Joy, since you finished your 22:50 masters degree, what kind of 22:51 blessings and experiences have 22:53 you had? 22:54 >> Oh, it's been really 22:55 exciting and some of my dreams 22:57 and unexpected dreams have 22:58 actually come true in terms of, 23:00 you know, what a person can 23:01 experience in a career. 23:03 It's been my privilege to work 23:05 with people in all kinds of 23:06 areas and capacities. 23:07 I've worked in private 23:09 practise, youth probation, 23:11 consulting, and in primary 23:13 care. 23:15 It has been an honour to 23:16 present seminars, webinars, 23:18 programs and other interventions 23:20 as well as to be an instructor 23:22 on two courses on mental health 23:23 and social issues. 23:25 All of these opportunities are a 23:27 huge privilege and sometimes 23:29 they come at a cost, but it's 23:30 always worth it. 23:33 >> So, Joy, what makes you so 23:35 genuinely interested in others? 23:38 >> Well, when I was a child, I 23:41 came across a quote that has 23:43 stuck with me through life and 23:44 it was about the importance of 23:47 being genuinely interested in 23:49 people and I sincerely believe 23:51 that every life has a value and 23:53 has importance. 23:54 There is a purpose and a reason 23:56 for every human being and the 23:58 late Serge LeClerc, a very 24:01 infamous Canadian, when he used 24:03 to give motivational speeches 24:04 to youth, what he used to say 24:06 was, "You're either part of the 24:08 problem or part of the 24:09 solution," and that always 24:11 stuck with me so my aim is to 24:14 be part of the solution. 24:16 >> Joy, in closing, what kept 24:19 you going during your 24:20 darkest days? 24:22 >> During those darkest days of 24:24 my adolescence and youth, I 24:26 didn't plan to live past 25 24:28 years old, I didn't want to 24:31 live past 25. 24:33 God had other plans and He 24:35 preserved and protected me. 24:37 One of my favourite Bible 24:39 verses is Jeremiah 29:11 where 24:42 God states that He has good 24:44 thoughts towards us and He 24:46 wants to promise us a future 24:48 and a hope and that goes for 24:49 every single one of us. 24:52 That's what keeps me going. 24:54 >> Well, Joy, we have come to 24:56 the end of our program and I 24:57 wonder if I could please ask 24:59 you to pray for us? 25:00 >> It would be an honour. 25:03 Our dear Heavenly Father, I 25:05 thank You so much for the 25:07 opportunities that You've given 25:08 us in our lives that we don't 25:10 even see sometimes. 25:12 I thank You for the provision 25:14 and for the care for each one. 25:17 And, Lord, I just pray for 25:18 those that might be watching 25:20 today, that You would reach 25:21 their hearts and know that they 25:23 are important to You and that 25:25 they matter and no matter what 25:26 mental health issues or 25:28 physical struggles they might 25:30 be going through, that You have 25:31 a future and a hope for them. 25:33 I ask all of these things in 25:35 Jesus' name, amen. 25:36 [MIKE] Amen. 25:38 Joy, thank you so much for 25:40 joining us and for sharing your 25:42 journey today on It Is Written 25:44 Canada. 25:45 >> Thank you for having me. 25:49 >> It was through a friend's 25:51 insistence that Joy study the 25:53 Bible which led her to see for 25:55 the first time that God is 25:57 really real and that His love 26:00 was all she needed for it to be 26:03 well with her soul. 26:05 That decision changed her life 26:08 and through Joy's life, it has 26:09 brought hope and healing to the 26:11 people she has worked with as a 26:13 mental health clinician. 26:16 So we want to offer you a set 26:18 of Bible study guides. 26:20 [MIKE] Whether you want to 26:21 learn the major teachings of 26:23 God's word or Bible prophecy, 26:25 we can assist you to find 26:27 answers for how to face the 26:29 issues and challenges you deal 26:31 with every day. 26:33 Here is the information that 26:34 you will need to receive your 26:36 own free set of Bible study 26:38 guides. 26:40 [VOICEOVER] To receive today's 26:41 offer, you can simply go to our 26:43 website at iiw.ca and click on 26:46 the "News and Offers" tab. 26:48 Again, it's iiw.ca. 26:51 You can also call us at 26:53 1-888-CALL-IIW. 26:56 That's 1-888-225-5449. 27:00 Call anytime! 27:02 We can be reached 24 hours a 27:03 day, 7 days a week. 27:05 Or if you'd like to write to 27:07 us, our address is It Is 27:09 Written Canada, Box 2010, 27:11 Oshawa, Ontario, L1H 7V4. 27:16 We also wanna thank you for 27:17 your prayer requests and 27:19 donations that make it possible 27:20 for us to connect people to the 27:22 abundant life found in Jesus. 27:29 >> Before you go, we also would 27:30 like to invite you to follow us 27:32 on Instagram and Facebook and 27:35 subscribe to our YouTube 27:36 channel and also listen to our 27:38 Podcasts. 27:40 And if you go to our website, 27:42 you can see our latest programs 27:44 including our cooking 27:45 demonstrations, our short 27:47 spiritual messages entitled 27:49 Daily Living, and our 27:51 exercise workouts called 27:52 Experiencing Life. 27:55 >> We want you to experience 27:56 the truth that is found in the 27:58 words of Jesus when He said, 28:00 "It is written, 'Man shall not 28:01 live by bread alone, but by 28:04 every word that proceeds out of 28:05 the mouth of God.'" 28:08 ♪♪ |
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