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00:42 >> Hello and welcome to It Is 00:43 Written Canada. 00:44 Thank you for joining us. 00:45 You know, there are times when 00:47 all you need is a friend, a 00:48 genuine friend, to be with you 00:50 when you are experiencing dark 00:51 times that affect your thoughts 00:53 and your feelings. 00:55 >> That was certainly the case 00:56 for young teenage Peter Caran. 00:59 Peter was suffering suicidal 01:01 depression and he prayed for God 01:03 to send him a sincere Christian 01:05 friend. 01:07 And God did. 01:08 He sent a young Christian boy to 01:11 pray with Peter. 01:12 >> And from that time until 01:14 this, that same friend and Peter 01:16 have studied the Bible and 01:18 shared their growing faith, 01:19 encouraging and supporting one 01:21 another. 01:22 They have remained friends and 01:24 prayer partners for over 01:26 30 years. 01:27 >> Today on It Is Written 01:29 Canada, Pastor Peter Caran and 01:31 his wife, Alexandra, will share 01:34 their story of how God actively 01:36 led them through their own 01:38 struggles and how now they are 01:40 trained counsellors, wanting to 01:42 see people healed and free to 01:45 serve others. 01:46 >> Pastor Peter and Alexandra 01:48 Caran, welcome to It Is Written 01:50 Canada. 01:51 >> Thank you for having us. 01:52 >> Thank you very much. 01:55 >> So, Pastor Peter and 01:57 Alexandra, can we begin at the 02:00 beginning? 02:01 Tell us about your roots. 02:06 >> A little bit about myself, my 02:10 family roots are that from my 02:13 mom's and dad's background, 02:16 I would say they were military 02:19 officers and entrepreneurs. 02:22 And then a little bit about my 02:25 growing up, I grew up in a home 02:29 where my mom was an Adventist 02:30 Christian and my dad was 02:33 existential socialist. 02:36 [RENÉ] And what about you, 02:38 Alexandra? 02:39 >> And I come also from the same 02:41 country as Peter, I am also 02:43 Eastern European and I was born 02:46 into wonderful parents, they 02:49 were Seventh-day Adventists and 02:51 my mom is actually, I think, 02:53 third generation of Adventist, 02:55 but my dad was actually a 02:57 teenager when he accepted Christ 03:00 and he joined the church. 03:01 So, yeah, they had three of us, 03:04 three girls and, yeah, they were 03:08 very much involved in church, 03:09 but then, unfortunately, my dad 03:12 passed away when I was 03:13 one year old. 03:15 So it was totally different, you 03:17 know, growing up with just Mom, 03:20 widow mom, but she was prayer 03:22 warrior. 03:23 She prayed a lot and God 03:25 provided for all of our needs 03:27 and, yeah. 03:29 I had a good childhood and very 03:31 much part of the church and that 03:34 was my, like, refuge I would 03:37 say, like, constantly involved 03:39 in church, yes. 03:40 >> So did your mom ever get 03:42 remarried? 03:43 >> No, she never got married. 03:44 I just think she-- she had 03:46 opportunities, there were some 03:49 opportunities, but, just, she 03:50 said, "I love them so much," and 03:52 she just wanted to be with us 03:55 and to share that love just 03:56 with us. 03:57 She had beautiful memories of 03:59 her first husband, you know, my 04:01 dad, and so she never remarried 04:03 and... 04:04 She was brave [chuckles] 04:06 to raise us, you know. 04:08 And she put us through school 04:09 and even high school, 04:11 Seventh-day Adventist high 04:13 school and so she was dreaming 04:16 for us to be close to Jesus and 04:20 did everything that she could. 04:22 Yes. 04:22 >> A very strong Christian. 04:24 >> Very strong Christian, 04:26 yes, I would say. 04:27 >> So both of you grew up in the 04:29 former Yugoslavia and your, 04:33 Pastor Peter, I find it very 04:34 interesting that your mother was 04:37 a Seventh-day Adventist 04:37 Christian, your dad was an 04:38 existential socialist. 04:40 How did that affect 04:41 your world view? 04:42 >> Mm-hm. 04:43 Yeah... 04:44 Maybe one of the formative 04:46 events, at least in my 04:47 experience, going to church four 04:50 times during the weekend, Friday 04:52 evening, couple of times on the 04:54 Sabbath, Sunday evening were 04:58 usually evangelistic sermons and 05:00 so we were in the church 05:04 every weekend, 05:07 a lot of God-oriented 05:08 activities from Mom's part 05:11 during the week. 05:13 But then my dad's influence was 05:16 important in my life because Dad 05:19 and I would go for walks and 05:22 whether those walks were during 05:23 the day or sometimes in the 05:25 evening or during the night, 05:27 a number of times because he saw 05:30 my interest in astronomy, 05:35 he would point to the stars and 05:36 different planets and he would 05:39 say something that, even to this 05:41 moment I do not know why he 05:42 mentioned those things, but he 05:43 would say, "Peter, you know, as 05:47 you grow up and you mature and 05:49 you have family, sooner or later 05:51 you will die and when you die 05:54 you're not going to be able to 05:55 live on this planet or that 05:57 planet and hundreds of years 05:59 will pass, 500 and 1,000, and 06:02 there is nothing, so... 06:05 ...do your best." 06:08 He encouraged me to be an 06:09 engineer because his dad was an 06:13 entrepreneur, he was working for 06:16 the government, an entrepreneur 06:17 and so there was an 06:19 entrepreneurial spirit, 06:20 engineering spirit. 06:23 I was fairly much okay with 06:25 that, but the struggle in my 06:30 mind was very strong between 06:33 what I was learning in the 06:35 church and from the Bible that 06:39 what God is offering us is 06:42 eternal life and yet my dad was 06:44 saying that after you died there 06:47 is basically nothing. 06:48 And so that created that big 06:51 crossroad in my life and at some 06:53 point after a lot of crying and 06:57 struggling, that was just before 06:59 school age, I decided to turn 07:02 back to my dad's ideology that 07:05 there is no life after death and 07:08 just give my heart to God, 07:10 whatever that meant at that 07:12 tender age. 07:13 And went kind of full heart into 07:20 who God is, just later on, to 07:23 understand how beautiful this 07:24 life is with God. 07:26 >> So when you say you turned 07:28 your back to it, in other words 07:29 you turned away from it... 07:31 >> Correct. 07:32 >> ...and you were turning 07:32 towards God now and saying, 07:35 "Yes, there is a future, there 07:36 is an eternity and when we die 07:39 that's not the end." 07:40 >> Correct. 07:41 Yeah, and that time I did not 07:42 really understand, all of that 07:44 later on I understood, but at 07:46 that time I just knew that... 07:50 ...as I was sharing, putting all 07:53 of this together, going to 07:54 church and knowing that there is 07:57 God and putting what my dad was 08:00 saying, I was basically saying 08:03 to myself, "If God gave us life 08:05 and all that we have is the 70, 08:07 80, or 90 years of life, He has 08:09 pulled the greatest and 08:11 cruellest joke on humanity, 08:13 that you die and there is no 08:15 more of you." 08:16 And so once I turned my back, I 08:18 basically said, "I need to 08:21 explore if God has a greater 08:25 answer than what my dad was 08:27 offering." 08:29 >> Pastor Peter, who encouraged 08:32 you to go into the ministry? 08:35 >> So probably there were three 08:36 formative events that 08:39 influenced me. 08:41 First one, which I was not even 08:42 aware when I was a kid, my 08:45 pastor, [SLAVIC NAME], he would 08:48 come to me on the Sabbaths and 08:49 as he was greeting me he would 08:50 put his hand under my chin and 08:53 he would say, "Peter, one day 08:54 you're going to be a good 08:55 pastor." 08:56 And I did not even know 08:57 what that meant. 08:59 Those things, I think, the Holy 09:01 Spirit just brought to my 09:02 attention as I was going through 09:04 some of the hard times in 09:05 ministry. 09:07 Second probably one that touched 09:10 me is during the-- 09:14 my nursing schooling and earlier 09:19 as I was practising marathon 09:21 races, I was finishing one race 09:26 and just going up the hill and 09:27 somebody was coming down 09:28 the hill that was close to our 09:30 school in Maru틤c, Croatia, 09:33 and this young boy was coming 09:36 down and for one reason or the 09:38 other, most likely the brakes 09:39 were not working on his bicycle 09:41 and he was just having just a 09:44 tiny slippers on his soles and 09:46 as he was trying to brake at the 09:48 bottom of the hill, he stepped 09:51 on that asphalt and his souls 09:54 started being bloodied. 09:55 And so my stomach just turned 09:58 and maybe at that time I 09:59 discovered that there is a 10:00 certain sense of compassion 10:02 towards those who need help. 10:04 So that was definitely a 10:05 second one. 10:06 The third one, between my third 10:09 and fourth year of nursing 10:11 during that summer, I have gone 10:13 with couple of my friends 10:14 colporteuring, going 10:15 door-to-door. 10:16 And God has resolved, one of the 10:19 things that was kind of rolling 10:21 in my head that were the lies of 10:26 some of the colleagues of my dad 10:28 who were in the army, who were 10:30 sharing how Christianity is for 10:34 losers, for older people who 10:38 cannot face life and the 10:40 challenges of life. 10:41 Interestingly enough, 10:42 that summer, as I was going 10:43 door-to-door, God has 10:45 prearranged that I have met some 10:47 wonderful young families who 10:50 kept on inviting me back to come 10:52 and share with them 10:54 who Jesus was. 10:55 And so right away during that 10:57 summer, that lie of the enemy 11:00 was shattered. 11:02 And so definitely I have felt 11:05 that God can use me to share the 11:08 good news with those who needed 11:10 it and that was such a great 11:11 encouragement to me. 11:13 [MIKE] There was a time that you 11:15 faced a crossroads, you were 11:16 15 years old. 11:17 Let's go back to that time. 11:19 Tell us about that. 11:21 >> I look at Christianity from 11:23 that ideal perspective. 11:26 As you read the Bible you see 11:30 kind of beautiful things, 11:31 idealistic things, and I have 11:34 that idealistic streak in me and 11:37 so when I went to a boarding 11:39 school at the age of 14, I was 11:41 looking for authentic 11:42 Christians. 11:44 And being with number of my 11:47 roommates and interacting with 11:49 them and seeing what they were 11:50 doing... 11:54 ...I was kind of disappointed 11:56 that I could not meet those 11:58 authentic Christians. 11:59 And so from the age of 15, as I 12:04 came back to my second year, I 12:06 was still looking but could not 12:09 find and I actually started 12:11 planning to finish my life 12:12 because in my mind, I really 12:15 came to realize that Adventism 12:17 does not work, Christianity does 12:19 not work, because what I was 12:21 reading and what I have seen in 12:24 practice, did not really work. 12:28 And so God had somehow 12:30 orchestrated that attempt of 12:33 suicide, of me going the lake 12:36 and tying the rock and finishing 12:38 my life, did not really work. 12:40 And so... 12:43 ...what was interesting, the day 12:44 after that disappointment, I met 12:49 a young man from my classroom 12:51 that I teased and he did not 12:53 answer as usual as what people 12:58 would do when you tease them. 12:59 They would usually tease you 13:00 back, but he didn't. 13:02 And I remember... 13:05 ...going from our school to our 13:07 dorm and him and I met on the 13:10 first floor of our dormitory, 13:13 just in the hallway and I said 13:16 to him, his name is Jovan, and I 13:18 said, "Jovan, there's something 13:21 different with you." 13:23 I tease you in front of 13:24 everyone, 13:26 but you do not respond like 13:28 everybody else." 13:30 And he said to me, "Peter, you 13:32 know when you tease me, it hurts 13:33 me and I pray for you." 13:37 And you know, at that moment, my 13:40 knees just kind of gave way and 13:43 I just knelt. 13:46 And Jovan said to me, "Peter, 13:49 do you wanna give your life to 13:50 Christ?" 13:54 And so he prayed over me. 13:56 And that was my first encounter 13:59 with someone who lived as an 14:02 authentic Christian. 14:04 From that point on... 14:08 ...it was fairly easy for me to 14:11 get up at 5 o'clock, spend time 14:13 with Him... 14:15 You know, at the tender age of 14:17 12, I was baptized. 14:19 Before that I would read the 14:20 Bible and not understand much, 14:22 but at the age of 15 when that 14:24 encounter happened, we would 14:27 meet in one of the classrooms, 14:30 three or four of us, and we 14:31 would read the writings of 14:33 Ellen G. White and her 14:34 presentation of who God is or 14:36 who Christ is and we just fell 14:37 in love with Christ as we 14:40 understood it. 14:41 We learned passages, paragraphs 14:43 by heart and we shared our 14:45 thoughts about it. 14:46 It was just a living faith and 14:49 school was important, but 14:52 serving others and caring for 14:53 others was just important to us 14:55 much more. 14:56 And so we were heavily involved 14:58 in leadership at the school, 15:02 just helping everyone that 15:03 we could. 15:04 And so it was a turn-around 15:08 event, going from disappointment 15:11 to a great encounter with God 15:13 and then having a support in 15:14 three or four friends, which 15:16 stayed as my close friends to 15:18 this day. 15:20 >> So, Alexandra, did you ever 15:22 think that you would become a 15:24 pastor's wife? 15:26 [ALEXANDRA] I didn't, no. 15:27 I didn't think that I would, but 15:31 I just like it because, maybe 15:33 because we were a small church 15:35 and I was growing up without 15:37 dad, pastors were coming often 15:40 to our home with their families, 15:42 like, they were part of my life, 15:44 you know, each one of them, you 15:45 know, they'd change. 15:47 And I had a very good connection 15:49 with each pastor and sometimes I 15:51 looked after their children and 15:53 stuff and sometimes they invited 15:55 me to their home and just, 15:57 again, helping with children. 15:58 So I just saw pastor's life 16:03 and I appreciated so much what 16:05 they do. 16:07 And when they invited us, "Let's 16:10 do this, let's do that," I was 16:11 ready to do it, to help them, 16:14 you know, invite people for 16:16 evangelistic meetings or 16:17 whenever it's need, to play the 16:20 instrument, let's do this, like, 16:22 I was ready to do it. 16:24 So when Peter came to my life 16:28 and I said, hey, pastor-- 16:30 pastoral ministry is, I don't 16:33 know, I was actually excited and 16:35 not so much like, I was not 16:36 hesitant at all. 16:38 And, yes, you're never prepared 16:40 for pastoral ministry fully, but 16:44 because I really enjoyed working 16:47 for the church, helping, of 16:49 course, volunteering, it was 16:51 just a continuation for me. 16:54 And ever-- even now, like, we 16:57 just had-- celebrated 10th 17:00 anniversary of Peterborough 17:02 church and people just, like, 17:04 said so many things and I just 17:05 said, like, "Hey, we are here, 17:07 we're gonna continue." 17:08 We love working in a ministry 17:11 together. 17:12 So that's, yeah, I just love 17:15 ministry. 17:16 >> Some people might not realize 17:19 that being in ministry is-- can 17:22 be pretty tough. 17:23 [ALEXANDRA] Oh, yes. 17:24 >> ...and there are some times 17:25 that are very challenging. 17:26 So tell us about your hardest 17:30 time, maybe the most difficult 17:32 time of growth for you, Peter. 17:34 >> Yeah. 17:35 Well, you know, maybe the 17:37 hardest time started with the 17:41 end of our first semester of my 17:45 Masters of Divinity degree, we 17:48 were in Florida just relaxing, 17:50 recuperating, and during one of 17:54 my bike rides, I was kind of 17:58 going a little bit faster than 18:00 usual, a plastic bag flew in my 18:02 front wheel and I ended up 18:05 flying in the air about nine 18:07 feet and ended up on the 18:09 asphalt with my head first with 18:11 no helmet on. 18:13 I ended up in the hospital 18:15 having a second vertebrae split 18:20 in a couple of places. 18:21 And so that kind of set, at 18:24 least my physical brain, in a 18:26 state of fogginess, so to speak. 18:28 I continue finishing the degree, 18:30 Alexandra joined me the year 18:32 after, so both of us finished 18:36 our masters degree in theology, 18:38 in ministry, prepared for 18:39 ministry. 18:41 And so the more we were involved 18:44 in ministry, the harder it 18:46 became. 18:46 Just to kind of paint a picture 18:48 for those who might not know, 18:51 when we came back into that 18:52 district, we were renovating a 18:56 sanctuary home, my mom who was 19:00 wrestling with depression lived 19:01 with us, we were homeschooling 19:03 three kids, we were planting the 19:06 third church and I continued to, 19:10 just couple of years later after 19:12 that, 2005, I started my 19:14 doctoral degree. 19:16 So there were a number of things 19:17 that were happening at the same 19:19 time. 19:20 Definitely both of us were 19:22 ambitious and we learned that, 19:23 you know, sometimes ambition 19:25 might not be the best. 19:27 So those were kind of the 19:28 backgrounds and the tough times 19:30 that we have gone through. 19:32 >> How was that dark time 19:33 for you? 19:34 >> Just to add on top of that, 19:37 I had a miscarriage with our 19:38 fourth baby as well and then I 19:41 lost my sister, like, sudden 19:43 death, I mean, she was cancer-- 19:45 she was diagnosed with cancer, 19:47 but from diagnosis to her death 19:49 was just eight months, so it 19:51 was, like, rapid. 19:52 She was from Serbia. 19:54 And so it was just too much and 19:58 especially watching a husband 20:01 and father of our children being 20:03 depressed and struggling like 20:05 that, it was not easy, but I 20:09 just always prayed and, you 20:11 know, like, growing up is, you 20:12 know now, like, grew up with 20:13 mother who's prayer warriors, I 20:16 just remembered, like, hey, we 20:18 can through this with God, 20:19 you know? 20:20 So we were always together 20:23 wherever, whatever we were doing 20:26 and so lots of prayer walks, we 20:29 would go for a walk and pray, 20:31 we still do that. 20:33 So I think that helped us and 20:35 helped him to know that he has 20:38 support, so... 20:40 It was not easy for me, but I 20:44 kind of started looking what's 20:46 there, what is good, what is 20:48 positive. 20:49 And, like, I don't know is it in 20:51 every marriage like that, but 20:53 we-- when on is down, the other 20:56 one needs to be stronger so we 20:58 help each other, so... 21:00 >> So, Pastor Peter and 21:02 Alexandra, what kind of 21:04 strategies did you use to 21:06 personally help you heal? 21:08 >> Can I just mention my 21:10 gratitude, you know, to Ontario 21:12 Conference. 21:12 I think that personally for us, 21:15 they had set about 7 days of 21:18 counselling and pampering with 21:20 Focus on the Family back in 21:22 Alberta, so we really had some 21:24 time to just reflect and be 21:27 refreshed and to be heard and to 21:30 be helped, that was really 21:32 wonderful. 21:33 At that same year, I think we 21:35 were on 2010, we were personally 21:39 needing help from Caring from 21:41 the Heart, a ministry that is 21:43 led by John Regier that has 21:45 helped us, definitely. 21:48 He spent time listening to 21:49 our stories, definitely 21:51 understanding our pains and then 21:53 just basically confronting us 21:55 and saying, gently confronting 21:56 us and saying, "What do you want 21:58 to do now with this?" you know? 22:00 "You have junk in the trunk, 22:02 what do you wanna do with it?" 22:03 And so we said, you know, "We 22:05 wanna resolve it." 22:06 And so there was a lot of crying 22:11 and weeping and giving that junk 22:13 to God and then allowing God, 22:15 through the promises of the 22:16 Bible, to replace that with what 22:20 He has for us. 22:21 And so that was definitely a 22:24 turning point in our emotional-- 22:29 deep stuff that we have carried 22:31 with us and finding freedom 22:34 in Christ. 22:36 [ALEXANDRA] Sometimes, maybe 22:37 even two times a year, go on a 22:38 mini-vacation to Berrien Springs 22:41 to visit that friend that Peter 22:44 encountered in his high school. 22:47 So he's married, he has family 22:49 there and that was like, it's 22:52 such a healing, almost like a 22:54 therapy, like, that trip with 22:56 our children and their children 22:58 to get together and talking and 23:01 just, like, being there, 23:03 understood and heard. 23:05 So I think that helped us to 23:07 come back to the ministry, like, 23:09 into the district with a full 23:11 vigour. 23:12 >> Yeah, and another strategy, 23:14 you know, that we have learned 23:15 from Tuckers when we were 23:17 struggling, you know, in the 23:19 first year of full-time 23:20 ministry, is that he has asked 23:22 us to take weekly dates, just 23:25 for two of us to resolve some 23:28 issues that could be there or 23:30 just to celebrate, you know, 23:32 whatever has happened. 23:34 So, number of things that have 23:36 been helping us, yeah. 23:38 >> So, Peter and Alexandra, 23:40 when-- this is final question, 23:42 when you look forward and look 23:44 back, what do you see? 23:46 >> Some of the toughest that we 23:48 go through, at least what I have 23:50 seen, Mike and René, is that in 23:53 the biggest time, you need the 23:54 bigger God. 23:56 So we have learned that the 23:57 bigger the trouble, the bigger 23:59 the God will come to intervene 24:01 and help us. 24:03 >> And also, like, with that 24:05 Caring for the Heart ministry, 24:08 we received counselling so we 24:09 actually went and got training 24:12 not long after our counselling 24:14 so we helped others and I feel 24:17 like that's our future, we're 24:18 gonna use in ministry that skill 24:21 to counsel people and youth. 24:24 Like, Peter is doing more, but 24:26 I'm usually when there is a 24:28 youth in struggle or something, 24:31 I'm there, like, I can help 24:33 them. 24:33 [MIKE] Because you have your 24:34 masters degree in Youth 24:36 Counselling. 24:37 >> I understand them, yes, and I 24:39 do care for youth. 24:40 We have three children that are 24:42 now young adults and I hear from 24:45 them what other young people are 24:47 struggling with, so I love to be 24:50 there, like, they are my number 24:52 one prayer, like, youth of the 24:54 Ontario and whole world, so... 24:57 >> So, Pastor Peter, you started 24:58 off talking about your father 25:00 and how he was an existential, 25:03 secular existentialist. 25:06 What happened to him? 25:07 >> Well, you know, interestingly 25:08 enough, about 34 later, I was 25:11 still in Canada, I was in Canada 25:13 at that time. 25:14 My mom called and she said, you 25:16 know, "I know how-- I knew how 25:18 to deal with your dad when he 25:19 was wrestling with worldly 25:21 values and that lifestyle, but 25:24 this morning he got up and he 25:27 says, 'Enough of drinking and 25:29 smoking and the worldly 25:31 lifestyle, I wanna become 25:33 a Christian.'" 25:34 And so he was baptized as an 25:36 Adventist and he became a 25:37 Christian and that was a 25:39 great joy. 25:41 God can change everybody's 25:43 heart. 25:44 Yes, we need a lot of patience, 25:45 we need a lot of prayer and 25:47 trust in God, but great things 25:51 happen and, you know, I will 25:53 rejoice one day seeing my dad in 25:55 heaven. 25:57 >> Pastor Peter and Alexandra, 25:59 unfortunately we have come to 26:01 the end of our time together, 26:03 but before we let you go, Pastor 26:05 Peter, I wonder if I could ask 26:06 you to please pray for our 26:09 viewers. 26:10 There may be some that are 26:11 struggling with depression, who 26:14 are struggling with believing in 26:15 God and so I wonder if you could 26:17 please lift them up in prayer 26:19 for us. 26:20 [PETER] Sure. 26:21 Let us pray. 26:24 Lord our God, we praise You for 26:27 inviting us to follow You. 26:30 In John 10, verse 10, part B, 26:36 You're inviting us to a journey 26:38 of abundant life and we can have 26:40 it as each morning we allow the 26:42 Holy Spirit to lead us. 26:44 And no matter where we are, that 26:46 the Holy Spirit is willing to 26:48 bring healing, to bring freedom 26:53 from whatever we are struggling 26:54 and, Lord, we just pray that You 26:57 would bless It Is Written Canada 27:00 and the staff, Mike and René and 27:02 all the staff working behind the 27:04 scene to share Christ and the 27:06 hope we have in Jesus Christ and 27:10 our friendship with Him. 27:11 We can have that relationship 27:13 daily as we invite the Holy 27:15 Spirit daily to dwell in the 27:17 room of our hearts and inspire 27:20 our minds, our thoughts, our 27:23 hearts, our emotions so that we 27:26 can give what we have and You're 27:28 willing to use us for the 27:31 betterment of Your Kingdom, 27:33 qualitatively and 27:34 quantitatively. 27:36 Bless us as we accept Your call 27:38 to follow You, for we pray in 27:40 the name of Christ Jesus, our 27:42 Lord, amen. 27:43 [MIKE & RENÉ] Amen. 27:47 >> As he did for Pastor Peter 27:49 and Alexandra Caran, God is 27:51 actively working to rescue you, 27:54 to encourage you, no matter 27:56 what you are facing. 27:58 So we would like to send you a 28:00 collection of true, 28:02 inspirational stories entitled 28:04 The Invitation. 28:05 >> The Invitation is a very 28:07 powerful book containing true, 28:09 encouraging stories of people 28:12 who were destroyed by 28:13 circumstances and rebuilt by 28:16 God's love. 28:19 >> Before you go, we would like 28:20 to invite you to follow us on 28:22 Instagram and Facebook and 28:24 subscribe to our YouTube channel 28:26 and also listen to our Podcasts. 28:29 And if you go to our website, 28:31 you can see our latest programs. 28:37 >> You, too, can experience the 28:38 fullness of life found in the 28:40 words of Jesus when He said, 28:43 "It is written, 'Man shall not 28:45 live by bread alone, but by 28:48 every word that proceeds out of 28:50 the mouth of God.'" |
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