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Series Code: IIWC
Program Code: IIWC202314S
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00:01 >> Welcome to It Is Written
00:02 Canada. 00:03 Thank you for joining us. 00:05 Paulie Rogers lives in the 00:07 beautiful but cold 00:08 northern-central region of 00:10 Saskatchewan, Canada, where 00:12 rolling hills, spruce forests, 00:14 and an abundant number of lakes 00:17 fill the countryside. 00:18 [MIKE] She and Kenny, her 00:20 husband of 37 years, run a large 00:23 hay farm in the summer and 00:25 bush clear in the winter. 00:26 Yes, Paulie runs heavy equipment 00:29 as well. 00:30 [RENÉ] They have raised two 00:32 remarkable children who are both 00:34 married with families of their 00:36 own, giving them eight 00:38 grandchildren. 00:39 [MIKE] She has spent over 25 00:42 years as a play write and 00:43 director for a local community 00:45 theatre, but when God called her 00:48 to pull away from secular 00:49 theatre to write for Him and 00:51 only for Him, Paulie learned 00:54 what it truly means to walk in 00:56 the steps of Jesus for an 00:58 incredible satisfying journey of 01:00 faith, hope, and personal 01:02 acceptance. 01:03 >> Paulie's passion is sharing a 01:05 personable Jesus through 01:07 story-telling, devotions, and 01:09 speaking engagements. 01:11 When Paulie and Kenny started 01:13 renovating and remodelling 01:16 their old Victorian farmhouse, 01:18 it inspired her to write a book 01:20 called My House Renovated One 01:23 Room at a Time. 01:25 [MIKE] It is a six-week Bible 01:27 study to discover what it means 01:30 to be remodelled in Christ as we 01:32 experience Him in every aspect 01:34 of our lives. 01:36 In a moment, you will meet 01:37 Paulie and hear her incredibly 01:40 inspirational story. 01:43 >> Mike, let's go see Paulie. 01:44 >> Let's do that. 01:57 ♪♪ 02:39 >> Welcome back to It Is Written 02:40 Canada. 02:41 Thank you for joining us. 02:43 >> In Revelation 3, verse 20, 02:45 Jesus tells us He's standing at 02:47 the door of our heart, knocking 02:50 for entrance. 02:51 It's up to us whether we want to 02:53 let Him in, but the best part of 02:56 letting Him in is the fellowship 02:58 we will experience with our 03:00 loving Saviour. 03:01 >> Our special guest, Paulie 03:03 Rogers, has let Jesus in, not 03:05 only to her heart, but her home 03:07 as well. 03:08 In fact, He showed Himself to 03:10 her in every remodelled room of 03:13 her old Victorian farmhouse. 03:15 >> This is Paulie Rogers띱ory 03:17 of renovating and remodelling 03:19 her family's old Victorian 03:21 farmhouse and how that 03:23 experience led to her opening 03:25 her heart to Jesus, remodelling 03:28 every room of her life. 03:31 Paulie, thank you for joining us 03:33 on It Is Written Canada. 03:36 >> Thank you. 03:36 It is my pleasure to be with you 03:38 guys and welcome to my house 03:41 here in Saskatchewan. 03:44 >> Paulie, you know, I've always 03:46 been fascinated with the 03:48 Victorian era. 03:50 The corsets and the full-length 03:53 skirts over layers and layers of 03:56 petticoats, with the matching 03:58 hats that make them look so 03:59 elegant, and the tea sets with 04:02 the fine bone China and the 04:04 pretty little delicate flowers. 04:06 So I cannot wait to hear about 04:09 your old Victorian farmhouse. 04:13 >> And I'm excited to share with 04:14 you my old Victorian farmhouse. 04:18 I often ask people if they would 04:21 prefer to live in an old 04:24 character house or a newly 04:26 built house. 04:28 Because this was the question 04:30 that my husband asked me minutes 04:33 after I said yes to his marriage 04:35 proposal. 04:37 Well, actually what he asked me 04:39 was, "Would you consider being a 04:43 partner with me in this farm I'm 04:45 looking at to buy?" 04:47 But it was a marriage proposal. 04:49 "The old character house, of 04:51 course!" I squealed with delight 04:54 as he let out a sigh of relief. 04:57 I knew why he was asking me this 04:59 question, because when I had 05:01 visited him, we had driven past 05:04 this house. 05:06 And as we did, and I took in its 05:10 structure, I had fallen in love 05:13 with it already because I, too, 05:16 like the old Victorian era. 05:19 >> What was it like when you 05:20 first came here, when you first 05:21 saw it. 05:22 I mean, it's been renovated. 05:25 [PAULIE] It was in bad need of 05:27 repair. [laughs] 05:29 It-- but, you know, what I saw 05:33 was the intricately carved wood 05:36 front door, the spindles on the 05:39 front porch, the gables were 05:42 romantic to me, that jutted out 05:44 of the roof. 05:48 And, you know, it was just so 05:50 special to me. 05:52 But to my husband... 05:55 ...he saw the rot. 05:58 The porch was about to fall off 06:00 the front, the door was so 06:02 warped you could hardly get it 06:04 shut, the window frames were 06:07 rotted and, you know, there was 06:10 a lot of things going on in 06:11 this house. 06:12 We had bats in the attic. 06:15 We had a sewer, old wood sewer 06:20 crib that collapsed on us so we 06:23 had a lot of sewer backup. 06:27 We had... 06:30 ...a huge infestation of mice. 06:34 We couldn't keep them out. 06:36 I shoved steel wool into every 06:38 little nook and cranny that I 06:39 could find, but they just kept 06:42 coming. 06:44 >> Paulie, how on earth did you 06:46 live in those circumstances? 06:50 >> I put on bravery. [laughs] 06:54 But you know, I never ran 06:56 in fear. 06:57 I bravely... 07:00 ...took it on like a warrior, 07:02 determined to win the battle at 07:05 hand because this was our house, 07:08 this was our home. 07:09 >> So it was a pretty old home, 07:11 how long did it take you to do 07:13 all of these renovations? 07:15 >> We lived in this house for 07:17 30 years. 07:19 It was like stepping back in 07:21 time with all its little quirks 07:25 and all its problems, but we 07:28 couldn't afford to fix it up. 07:30 You know, my husband warned me 07:31 that, right from the very 07:32 beginning, that, you know, the 07:35 farm was gonna be tough and it 07:38 would take a lot to get 07:41 established and get going. 07:43 And so we just lived in it 07:46 as it was. 07:47 We had an old black rotary phone 07:49 on the wall with a party line. 07:52 And, you know, when it would 07:54 ring, you'd have to listen to 07:56 how many rings it took to know 07:58 if it was for you or for one of 08:00 the neighbours. 08:02 >> Did you have running water? 08:04 >> We did, fortunately. 08:08 But it had only been installed 08:10 in 1980, five years before we 08:12 moved into it. 08:14 So I'm very appreciative of our 08:17 running water, but, you know, 08:19 because not everybody in the 08:21 community here had running water 08:23 either at that time, you know? 08:25 They would get their water from 08:26 the well, they'd heat it on the 08:27 stove and as I talked to one of 08:31 the daughters that had grown up 08:33 in this house before we-- prior 08:35 to us getting it, she told me a 08:38 lot of stories of living without 08:41 water and the electricity was 08:43 old so it was very limited. 08:47 >> So as you went through this 08:48 renovation process, it was room 08:50 by room. 08:52 Tell us about that and what were 08:53 you experiencing because you 08:54 were experiencing a certain 08:56 growth in your spiritual 08:57 development as well. 08:59 >> Yes. 09:00 So... 09:02 Like I said, we couldn't afford 09:04 it, but it-- the house had 09:05 gotten in such dire need that 09:10 we had to do something with it. 09:13 And over the years of living 09:15 this way, God really had given 09:17 me a heart of contentment. 09:19 I was happy in our country life, 09:21 I didn't need new things. 09:24 But as we grew older, so did the 09:27 house and so it was just in that 09:29 state where we really had to do 09:33 something with it because we 09:34 couldn't live like that any 09:35 longer. 09:37 So I fell on my knees, praying 09:40 over this house and dedicating 09:42 it to God, giving it to Him. 09:45 It was His house to do with it 09:46 whatever He was going to do 09:48 with it. 09:50 So we had looked into the 09:53 possibility of tearing it down 09:55 and building new, but we had 09:57 just finished our mortgage and 10:00 it took us a long time to get to 10:03 that point and we did not wanna 10:05 go into a heavy debt over a 10:07 house at that time and so we 10:10 made the decision that well... 10:15 ...let's start with one room 10:17 and get this room done and it 10:20 happened to be the upstairs 10:21 bathroom. 10:23 So we gutted it down and rebuilt 10:26 it from the bottom up. 10:29 God provided just the amount of 10:32 money to finish that project. 10:34 So then when we moved on to the 10:36 next room, God provided that 10:39 year just enough money to 10:41 complete that project. 10:43 And so forth and so forth 10:45 until the house was completed. 10:48 >> So you were very patient 10:49 going through this whole 10:50 process. 10:51 You also compare in your book 10:54 the house to your body. 10:58 [PAULIE] Yes. 10:59 Yeah, because the Bible tells us 11:01 that we are a temple for God to 11:03 dwell and I knew that and I also 11:08 knew that we needed to take care 11:10 of the things that God provides 11:13 for us and I really felt like we 11:16 hadn't done that very well, but 11:18 He had taken such good care of 11:19 us and I was so thankful 11:21 for that. 11:23 >> So, Paulie, you had to take 11:24 out, like, the walls were 11:26 rotting and the doors and the 11:28 frames and everything, the 11:30 windows, you had to replace 11:31 everything. 11:32 But what about the foundations? 11:34 >> Well, you know, the 11:35 foundation is the reason why we 11:38 decided to go ahead and 11:40 fix it up. 11:41 Because the foundation was 11:44 strong and solid and so were the 11:47 bones of the structure. 11:49 So it gave it, you know, the 11:53 structure and the sturdiness 11:55 that we could build on because 11:57 if a foundation is weak, it 12:00 wouldn't have been worth it, 12:02 you know, and Jesus is our 12:04 foundation... 12:05 >> Yeah, yeah. 12:06 [PAULIE] ...He is our strength. 12:07 And I love that my house 12:10 represents... 12:12 ...a Christian life so well. 12:18 >> So, Paulie, can you tell us 12:19 why you started your book with 12:22 the front porch? 12:25 >> Because the front porch is 12:27 where we first meet Jesus. 12:31 When I first saw my husband, 12:36 he arrived at school later in 12:39 the year. 12:40 So when we heard about him, my 12:43 girlfriends and I were sitting 12:44 in the cafeteria at school 12:47 watching and waiting for that 12:50 first glimpse of this new guy 12:53 in school. 12:55 And as he came through, we 12:57 watched him as he went through 12:59 line, filling his tray of food, 13:01 but it was only the back side 13:03 of him. 13:04 We waited in anticipation for 13:06 him to turn around so we could 13:08 get that first look at him. 13:11 And, of course, when he did, he 13:12 looked straight at us! 13:14 It's like, "Oh no!" [laughs] 13:18 Was I in love with him 13:20 at first sight? 13:22 I might have liked what I saw, 13:24 but I wasn't in love with him 13:25 because I didn't know him. 13:28 As we got to know each other 13:31 and became friends first, 13:34 then that grew. 13:35 So that's where I like to take 13:38 the reader, from the front porch 13:41 first where we first get that 13:43 glimpse of Jesus. 13:46 And I love flowers. 13:49 And as you can see, I have a lot 13:51 of flower beds in my yard. 13:55 And it takes a lot of work to 13:58 take care of these plants, 14:00 you know? 14:01 You have to groom them, you have 14:02 to weed them, you have to 14:05 fertilize them and dead head 14:06 them so they just keep blooming. 14:09 And one of my favourite things 14:10 about my front porch is that I 14:13 love to sit here and have my 14:16 devotions with God in the 14:17 mornings, right here. 14:19 And I fill this porch with 14:22 potted plants, as many flowers 14:25 as I can afford out of the 14:26 greenhouses. 14:28 I get them and I just fill my 14:29 pots with them and hanging from 14:32 the balcony, I usually have 14:34 these big cascading flowers and 14:39 fuchsias, they're my favourites. 14:41 But because they take a lot of 14:43 work, the potted plants, they 14:45 dry out very quickly and I get 14:47 very, very busy on the farm. 14:50 So one year, I found in the 14:52 store, these beautiful hanging 14:56 baskets with these flowering 14:57 plants that were silk. 15:01 They were fake. 15:03 And when I saw those, I thought, 15:05 "Now there is something that 15:08 would really work on my porch." 15:11 So I bought them and I hung them 15:13 here on my porch. 15:16 I wouldn't have to water them, I 15:18 wouldn't have to get the ladder 15:19 and put the fertilizer in and 15:22 snip and, you know, groom them. 15:26 But as I sat here enjoying my 15:29 silk hanging baskets, 15:32 I felt really bad because the 15:34 hummingbirds would come and they 15:36 would be disappointed because 15:37 there was no nectar there for 15:39 them so, you know, I kinda felt 15:40 bad for them. 15:42 But then that summer 15:46 my husband's grandmother 15:49 stopped in. 15:50 Now this was a woman who kept an 15:52 immaculate yard and her garden, 15:54 you would never find a 15:55 weed in it. 15:57 My garden is not like that. 16:00 I like to spend my time in my 16:01 flowers, yes, but they're not 16:03 perfect. 16:05 But anyway, she stopped in that 16:07 day and she wanted to see my 16:09 garden. 16:11 Okay! [laughs] 16:13 I took her around, I took her to 16:15 the vegetable garden first and, 16:18 you know, plucking weeds behind 16:20 her back. 16:22 So anyways, we went around to my 16:25 flower beds and she was really 16:26 enjoying them, you know. 16:28 Some of them I had gotten 16:30 starters from her and so she was 16:31 happy to see that they were 16:33 establishing very well and I had 16:36 a few from other neighbours that 16:37 she was interested in. 16:40 And then she looked over here at 16:42 my porch and she looked at those 16:44 hanging baskets and she 16:47 squealed, [gasps] "Where-- or 16:50 what kind of flowers are those?" 16:53 [laughs] 16:54 Can you imagine my embarrassment 16:56 when I had to tell her that they 16:58 were fake and I didn't know 17:00 their name? [laughs] 17:02 She was not impressed. 17:06 But you know, what I bring out 17:08 in my book, the importance of 17:09 this front porch and meeting, 17:12 this is the place that we meet 17:13 Jesus for the first time, where 17:16 we get our first glimpse of Him. 17:18 And all through nature we can 17:21 find God. 17:23 He's our Creator and it's a joy 17:27 to be out here with Him. 17:30 But we need more. 17:33 Because if this is all our 17:35 Christian life is, we're just 17:37 front porch Christians. 17:40 The Bible says He is knocking at 17:43 our door, He's wanting to come 17:45 in and have a relationship 17:47 with us. 17:48 And so that's the foundation of 17:51 what my book is all about is 17:53 having this personal, intimate 17:55 marriage relationship with 17:57 Jesus. 17:59 >> Paulie, can you tell us a 18:00 little bit more about front 18:02 porch Christianity? 18:05 >> We can know who Jesus is 18:09 without knowing Him personally, 18:12 allowing Him inside. 18:15 And to remain out here on our 18:17 front porch, we can be as fake 18:22 as my hanging silk flowers. 18:26 There are many reasons why we 18:27 may not want Jesus to come in to 18:30 our house. 18:32 My house might be messy. 18:35 It's dirty. 18:36 It's not for public viewing and 18:39 so we're scared to allow God in 18:41 because we think we have to 18:43 become perfect before 18:46 He comes in. 18:49 But He doesn't want to come in 18:51 as a guest, He wants to come in 18:54 as a family member, He wants to 18:56 know us and live with us on a 18:58 very personal level. 19:02 >> Probably most people who see 19:04 your house are just driving by, 19:06 right? 19:06 They only see the outside. 19:09 So who comes into your house? 19:11 >> My friends. 19:13 My friends, family... 19:16 >> And so there's a picture of 19:18 front porch Christianity, you 19:20 know, those who stay out. 19:21 We don't want Jesus to stay out. 19:23 [PAULIE] Right. 19:24 >> We want Him to be our best 19:25 friend, to be inside. 19:27 And that's kinda scary to me 19:29 because, you know, there might 19:30 be drawers I don't want Him 19:31 looking into, there might be 19:33 things in the fridge I don't 19:35 want Him seeing, right? 19:36 [PAULIE] Yeah, yeah. 19:37 >> There might be things in the 19:39 laundry basket or maybe upstairs 19:41 in the attic, you know? 19:43 >> Or even in the garbage. 19:45 [MIKE] Yes. 19:46 [PAULIE] Uh-huh. 19:47 >> And it's so true what you 19:48 mentioned, Paulie, you said we 19:50 can know about Jesus, you know, 19:54 and do all the right things. 19:56 We can read our Bibles, we can 19:58 pray, we can study, we can, 20:01 you know... 20:02 >> Go to church. 20:03 [RENÉ] So we can do all the 20:04 right things and on the outside, 20:07 just like the front porch is 20:08 beautiful, on the outside we can 20:11 appear good because we're doing 20:13 all the right things. 20:14 [PAULIE] Right, but inside... 20:16 >> Inside, yes. 20:17 >> ...we could be a mess 20:19 in need of a restoration. 20:21 >> That's why we need Jesus. 20:22 >> That is why we need Jesus. 20:24 >> He specializes in cleaning up 20:25 messes. 20:26 >> That's right. 20:28 Yeah. 20:29 [gentle orchestral music] 20:33 ♪ I come to the garden alone 20:41 ♪ While the dew 20:44 ♪ is still on the roses 20:50 ♪ And the voice I hear 20:55 ♪ falling on my ear 21:00 ♪ The Son of God discloses 21:13 ♪ And He walks with me 21:19 ♪ and He talks with me 21:23 ♪ And He tells me 21:26 ♪ I am His own 21:32 ♪ And the joy we share 21:36 ♪ as we tarry there 21:42 ♪ None other has ever known 21:51 [orchestral music continues] 21:54 ♪♪ 22:07 ♪ I stayed in the garden 22:13 ♪ with Him 22:16 ♪ Though the night around me ♪ 22:22 ♪ be falling 22:26 ♪ But He bids me go 22:30 ♪ through the voice of woe 22:35 ♪ His voice to me 22:40 ♪ is calling 22:46 ♪ And He walks with me 22:52 ♪ and He talks with me 22:57 ♪ And He tells me 22:59 ♪ I am His own 23:05 ♪ And the joy we share 23:09 ♪ as we tarry there 23:15 ♪ None other has ever known 23:24 [orchestral music continues] 23:27 ♪♪ 23:58 >> Paulie, I have a copy of your 23:59 book here and it just has a feel 24:02 about it, like, I feel what you 24:04 went through over the years. 24:06 You know, you have the old 24:07 pictures and you got the new 24:08 pictures, you've got the 24:10 renovations, you've got your 24:11 kids growing up here, you've got 24:14 you and Kenny before you got 24:16 married and when you got 24:17 married and it's just a real, 24:21 it just draws you in. 24:24 >> Yeah, it was so relatable, 24:26 you know, knowing how, just how 24:28 important it is to have Jesus as 24:31 our friend. 24:32 >> Yeah, you know, that was my 24:33 purpose was to make it simple 24:36 but yet deeply inspirational for 24:42 people in their walk with 24:43 Christ, you know, to draw Christ 24:46 in to their homes, into their 24:49 bodies for that special deep 24:52 relationship with Him. 24:53 >> And I just love the way you 24:55 did each room. 24:57 Like, every room you went 25:00 through each room and then had 25:02 the spiritual restoration with 25:06 the physical restoration. 25:08 And I just loved the way you 25:09 brought Jesus into each and 25:11 every room that you remodelled. 25:12 >> Right because we want Him in 25:14 every room of our lives, 25:17 every section of our lives, 25:20 we need Him. 25:21 [MIKE] Yes. 25:22 And the thing about it is, He 25:25 removes the fear. 25:26 He brings peace, He brings joy 25:30 and no condemnation. 25:32 >> That's right. 25:33 And when you look at Christ's 25:34 life here on earth, 25:37 who did He hang out with? 25:38 Who did He minister to? 25:41 It was the ones in need, the 25:43 ones who needed the restoration. 25:46 >> And so we are on the front 25:48 porch today and I'm looking 25:50 forward to going into your 25:52 house, but we've run out of time 25:55 and so we're gonna have to 25:57 continue next week, but before 25:59 we do that, I wonder if, Paulie, 26:01 you could pray for our viewers. 26:02 Maybe there is someone who just 26:05 is not ready to let Jesus go 26:08 past the front porch and pray 26:10 for such a person to say, "Hey, 26:13 I can trust Jesus to come into 26:15 my heart, come into my life, 26:18 into my house." 26:20 >> I would love to do that. 26:23 Dear Heavenly Father, 26:26 what a privilege it is to be on 26:29 this front porch where we first 26:31 meet You. 26:33 Father, I know that there are 26:35 many people that wonder about 26:38 You, that don't know You on a 26:40 personal level, and so, Father, 26:42 I wanna pray for them right now, 26:45 that they will hear that knock 26:47 upon their heart and that want 26:50 to, to open themselves up to You 26:53 and let You in. 26:55 Touch them in a way, Lord, that 26:58 they know and want 27:01 a relationship with You. 27:03 In this I pray, amen. 27:05 [MIKE] Amen. 27:06 >> Paulie, thank you so much for 27:07 having us at your old Victorian 27:10 house today. 27:12 >> Thank you for being here. 27:16 >> Wherever you find yourself on 27:18 a spiritual journey, whether you 27:20 are just testing the waters of 27:22 belief in the God of the Bible 27:24 or a long-time church-goer, our 27:27 free offer, Daring To Ask For 27:30 More, will inspire and challenge 27:32 you to a life of faith and 27:35 purpose. 27:36 >> Not only will Daring To Ask 27:37 For More challenge you to pray 27:39 as you've never prayed before, 27:41 but it will give you extremely 27:43 practical tools and specific 27:45 pointers on how to develop the 27:47 spiritual discipline needed as 27:49 you open your heart to Jesus 27:52 remodelling every room of 27:54 your life. 27:57 >> Before you go, we would also 27:58 like to invite you to follow us 28:00 on Instagram and Facebook, and 28:03 subscribe to our YouTube channel 28:05 and also listen to our Podcasts. 28:08 And if you go to our website, 28:10 you can see our latest programs. 28:12 >> You, too, can experience the 28:14 fullness of life found in the 28:16 words of Jesus when He said, "It 28:18 is written, 'Man shall not live 28:20 by bread alone, but by every 28:22 word that proceeds out of the 28:23 mouth of God.'" 28:25 ♪♪ |
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