It Is Written Canada

Destroying The Devil’S Domain

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00:03 ♪♪
00:38 [gentle piano music playing]
00:41 ♪♪
00:44 >> Welcome to
00:45 It Is Written Canada.
00:46 Thank you for joining us.
00:47 When Don MacLafferty's skeleton
00:49 key, after multiple repeated
00:52 attempts, finally opened that
00:54 locked door in Zimbabwe, it led
00:57 him on a mission that he could
00:59 never have imagined.
01:00 [RENÉ] Don MacLafferty is a
01:02 missionary, a revivalist and a
01:04 disciple-maker for Jesus, who
01:07 travels around the world
01:09 introducing people
01:10 to his best friend.
01:12 >> Don is here today to tell us
01:14 what happened that night and why
01:16 that skeleton key refused to
01:18 open that door and how opening
01:20 that door led him on an
01:22 assignment to destroy
01:24 the Devil's domain.
01:26 [RENÉ] Don, thank you for
01:27 joining us again on It Is
01:29 Written Canada.
01:30 [DON] It's a joy to be here.
01:31 [MIKE] Don, tell us about that
01:33 skeleton key.
01:34 [DON] Oh, the skeleton key.
01:36 I'll never forget it.
01:38 I thought I was finished
01:41 with my work in Zimbabwe
01:44 and I got a last minute
01:45 opportunity to go and speak to a
01:47 high school campus about Jesus.
01:49 And I was tired, so, so tired.
01:52 I said, "Where am I sleeping
01:53 tonight?"
01:54 They said, "Well, because you
01:55 came here last minute, we don't
01:57 really have that planned, but
01:58 we'll figure it out.
01:59 Follow us."
02:00 They took me to a
02:03 long, big building, a dormitory
02:05 that's right up against a high,
02:07 high fence that's supposed to
02:09 keep the leopards out
02:11 of the university campus
02:13 where I was.
02:14 Supposed to.
02:15 So they gave me a long skeleton
02:17 key, you know those old timey
02:18 keys, and they said, "Here's
02:20 your key for your room."
02:21 So I popped it in the door and
02:23 turned it, and it did exactly
02:25 what I thought, it just popped
02:26 open and I walked into a tiny
02:28 little bedroom, which is fine
02:30 with me, it's all I needed.
02:32 I was so exhausted, I said,
02:33 "Goodnight, everyone,
02:34 I'm going to sleep."
02:36 I got ready for bed
02:37 and knelt down.
02:38 I said, "God, is there anything
02:40 else on Your heart
02:42 for me to do here in Zimbabwe
02:44 before I go home
02:46 in about the next day,
02:48 day and a half?”
02:49 And that was my prayer.
02:50 And that's still, small voice of
02:52 God said to my mind, said to my
02:53 heart, "Come outside under the
02:56 stars, and I'll tell you."
02:58 Whoa, I was now very, very
02:59 awake, because, you know, God
03:01 still speaks.
03:02 He still speaks to His people.
03:04 He doesn't speak audibly to me
03:06 like, "Hey, Don," but He speaks
03:08 to my mind, He speaks to my
03:09 heart and I test these things
03:11 with the written Word of God.
03:13 That's very, very important.
03:15 So I put on my warm clothes
03:18 because it actually was a cold
03:20 time in Africa and I went out
03:21 under the stars.
03:22 The stars were just like I could
03:23 just pick them right out of the
03:25 sky because artificial light was
03:27 so far away.
03:29 Rarely do I see that on the
03:31 planet today.
03:32 And I went right out into the
03:35 tall grasses where the cobra are
03:37 during the hot part of the day,
03:39 but this is a cold part and so I
03:42 trusted that they were all in
03:43 their dens, their holes.
03:45 So I knelt down in those tall
03:46 grasses and I said, "God," I
03:48 lifted my hands up, "God, what's
03:49 on Your heart?"
03:51 And there's still, small voice
03:54 said, "Ask Me to do much, much
03:55 more for Africa."
03:57 And I thought that was a
03:58 little strange.
03:58 Why would God ask me to ask Him?
04:00 But, you know, this is the
04:01 amazing quality of our
04:04 amazing God.
04:05 He does want us to ask of Him.
04:08 So I lifted my hands up
04:09 in the darkness.
04:10 "God," I said,
04:12 "I am asking you to do much,
04:14 much more for Africa."
04:16 And as soon as I asked Him,
04:19 my heart became peaceful
04:21 and I could hear the birds
04:23 and I could hear the wind
04:25 through the tall grasses.
04:26 And I knew I could now go back
04:28 to my room and go to sleep.
04:29 So I got up and went through the
04:32 grass and came up to the
04:33 dormitory, took out my key,
04:35 popped it in the door, turned it
04:37 and it wouldn't open.
04:38 I thought, "That's crazy.
04:39 I must be doing something wrong.
04:40 I'm too sleepy."
04:41 I rub my eyes.
04:42 I did it again, second time,
04:44 third time, fourth, fifth,
04:45 sixth, 10th time,
04:47 15th time.
04:48 Now, I was getting upset, maybe
04:50 even a little upset with God.
04:51 "Why are You not allowing
04:52 me to sleep?
04:53 I've been here preaching and
04:54 teaching for Jesus, and I just
04:56 simply need to sleep."
04:58 And I couldn't get in the door.
04:59 And the still, small voice of
05:01 God said, "Don, you're not
05:03 getting into your room yet
05:04 because there's someone for
05:05 you to meet."
05:06 "But I don't know anybody in
05:08 this whole dormitory.
05:09 They don't even know that I came
05:10 here tonight.
05:12 It's unplanned."
05:14 And He said, "Oh, there's
05:15 somebody for you to meet."
05:17 So I thought, "Oh, great, this
05:19 is gonna be embarrassing."
05:20 I've gotta walk through a dark
05:22 dormitory.
05:23 So I am padding my way through a
05:25 long hallway, unlit...
05:28 ...and I thought, "Which door
05:30 am I gonna knock on?"
05:32 And God said, "Do you trust Me?"
05:34 "Well, yes, I trust--
05:36 Yes, I trust You."
05:37 And so I'm walking along and
05:39 I'm thinking, "This is gonna be
05:40 so embarrassing.
05:41 I'm gonna knock on one of these
05:42 doors and they're gonna see my
05:44 white face in the darkness, I'm
05:45 gonna scare them to death."
05:47 And so I thought, "I don't know
05:49 which one to go to."
05:50 And there was beautiful
05:52 music and light
05:54 pouring out of one door.
05:56 The whole hallway is dark,
05:58 everybody is sound asleep.
06:00 Somebody's still awake.
06:01 I thought, "Okay, I'm gonna make
06:03 this really, really easy so I
06:04 can get out of here fast.
06:06 God told me to knock on the
06:07 door, so I'm gonna do it,
06:08 but I'm gonna knock very, very
06:10 softly and if no one answers,
06:12 I'll say, "God, I did my part."
06:14 So I just barely tap on the door
06:16 and the door swings open like
06:17 this, like they're waiting for
06:19 me all the time.
06:20 And this face comes out in the
06:22 darkness and sees my white face
06:24 and he says, [gasps]
06:25 "Who are you?"
06:26 And I said, "I'm not a robber,
06:27 I promise I'm not a robber."
06:28 I said, "I'm Pastor Don and I'm
06:31 just teaching here in your
06:32 country, but I," and I held up
06:34 my skeleton key, "I'm
06:36 embarrassed to say
06:37 I cannot get
06:38 my door open."
06:40 And he said, "Oh," he said,
06:42 "My friend.
06:43 Come with me.
06:44 I've been coming here for a
06:45 long, long time.
06:46 I can help you get in
06:48 to your door.
06:49 I've been studying here
06:50 for some time.
06:52 So I followed him over to the
06:54 room and I handed him the key,
06:57 he took the key and turned it
06:58 just once and guess what
06:59 happened?
07:01 [MIKE] It opened.
07:02 [RENÉ] You got in?
07:03 [DON] No!
07:03 It wouldn't open.
07:05 And he tried again and again and
07:06 again and again.
07:07 He said, "Ack! What's wrong with
07:08 this key?
07:09 I have use every key probably in
07:11 this whole building and they've
07:12 always opened the first time."
07:14 And I was like, "Oh no, I can't
07:15 believe this is happening."
07:16 He said, "Hey, wait, wait.
07:17 Wait right here."
07:18 And he got a big strapping young
07:20 man and he said, "This man,
07:22 this young man is a student,
07:24 he can get in anything."
07:25 He took my key and he just went
07:27 like this and his muscles were
07:29 just there, you know, he's like
07:30 a wrestler.
07:31 And he worked and worked until
07:33 he started sweating in the
07:34 cold night.
07:35 And he said, "Ah, Pastor," he
07:36 said, "I can't open this
07:37 either."
07:39 And then he said, "But wait
07:40 right here."
07:41 And he goes all the way to the
07:42 other side of the campus,
07:43 brings back a big bushel
07:46 basket full of keys,
07:49 many duplicate keys of my door.
07:51 And the dean of the school
07:54 is trying each one.
07:56 And it doesn't-- each one
07:57 doesn't open.
07:58 I'm getting more and more
07:59 frustrated.
08:00 Pastor Willard is across the
08:02 hallway from me and he's
08:03 watching this with much
08:04 interest.
08:05 And the still, small voice of
08:07 God says, "Ask Pastor Willard...
08:10 ...what can I do for you?
08:11 How can I help you?"
08:13 I said, "God, April and I
08:15 agreed, I only have $100
08:18 in my pocket for emergencies.
08:19 I'm happy to give this man $100
08:21 if it'd help him, but what if he
08:23 asks me for something bigger
08:24 than what I have in my pocket?
08:26 And then I'd have to say, 'I'm
08:27 sorry, I don't--
08:29 I can't help you.'"
08:30 And stronger that the still,
08:32 small voice of God said,
08:34 "Ask him."
08:35 And I gave Him another excuse.
08:37 "But $100 can only go so far.
08:39 What if he wants me to put his
08:40 children through school?"
08:42 Third time He says with urgency,
08:44 "Don, ask him,
08:46 what do you need?
08:47 How can I help you?"
08:48 So I said, "Pastor Willard,"
08:49 I said, "God is moving my heart
08:51 to ask you what do you need?
08:53 How can I help you?"
08:55 He got a big smile on his face.
08:56 Too big.
08:57 And I thought, "Oh, no,
08:59 he's gonna ask me for something
09:00 bigger than what I had
09:02 to help him."
09:03 And he said
09:05 to the dean, "Please give me
09:07 Pastor Don's key."
09:08 I thought, "Why does he want
09:09 the key?
09:10 I already know it doesn't work."
09:11 And so he took it and he went
09:13 and he put it right in the door.
09:15 He turned it once
09:16 and the door opened.
09:18 [MIKE] Wow.
09:18 >> The door only opened after I
09:20 obeyed that still, small voice
09:22 of God that says, "Ask him, how
09:24 can I help you and what do
09:26 you need?"
09:27 Interesting, isn't it?
09:28 That's never happened to me
09:29 ever again, before this story or
09:31 after this story.
09:32 So we said goodnight to
09:34 everybody, except I said,
09:35 "Pastor Willard, let's get on
09:36 our knees."
09:37 We got on our knees and prayed.
09:38 And I said, "What do you need
09:41 and how can I help you?"
09:42 And he said, "What do you do?"
09:43 And I said, "I do training all
09:45 around the world, training
09:46 people on how to call children,
09:48 youth, and adults all together
09:51 to revival with Jesus.
09:52 And then I train them on how to
09:53 live as disciples and
09:55 disciple-makers, especially the
09:56 new generations."
09:57 "Oh, why don't you come to
10:00 Northern Zambia?
10:00 We need such training."
10:02 And I sat back in my chair and I
10:04 felt comfortable because it was
10:05 something I already knew
10:06 how to do.
10:07 And as soon as I sat back and
10:09 felt comfortable, that still,
10:10 small voice said, "Yes, that's
10:13 good, but there's something
10:15 most urgent
10:16 and he hasn't told you yet."
10:18 "Pastor Willard," I said,
10:20 "I'm sorry to disturb you,
10:22 but have you really told me
10:23 what's urgent
10:24 for you to tell me?"
10:26 And he hung his head like this,
10:28 and he looked up with tears in
10:29 his eyes and he said, "We do not
10:32 have Christian schools
10:33 for our children.
10:34 We desperately need Christian
10:36 schools, Bible schools for our
10:38 children."
10:39 I said, "Oh, you mean like you
10:40 want a little, like a little
10:42 one-room schoolhouse?"
10:43 I was trying to take a need
10:46 and put it down as small as I
10:47 could so I could get my mind
10:49 around how I could help him.
10:51 Do you follow me?
10:52 And he said,
10:53 "No, not exactly.
10:55 We need a whole
10:57 secondary campus
10:58 carved right out of the bush
11:00 country where there's nothing
11:02 and we need a dormitory for the
11:04 girls, a dormitory for the
11:05 boys," and on and on he went and
11:07 my heart just sank.
11:10 And I was just thinking, "Oh,
11:11 this is so out of my league,"
11:13 when he said, "Excuse me, that's
11:15 only part of it.
11:16 We need actually two of those
11:18 kinds of schools.
11:19 We have nothing for our
11:20 children."
11:22 And I said very quietly, I said,
11:24 "Thank you," I gave him a weak
11:26 handshake, "Thank you for
11:27 sharing these needs with me.
11:29 I know God arranged this, but I
11:31 have no idea what to say.
11:32 God bless you.
11:33 Have a good night."
11:34 And so he walked out.
11:35 I got on my knees and I said,
11:37 "God, what was that?"
11:38 And He said, "Don,
11:40 you asked me under the stars
11:42 to do much more for Africa
11:44 and I have had you meet Pastor
11:47 Sichilima so that you could hear
11:49 this need in northern Zambia.
11:51 These schools are what I'm
11:53 asking you to build."
11:56 >> Wow!
11:58 And so that key only worked
12:00 after you met that pastor and
12:03 asked him the right question.
12:04 [DON] Yes, exactly.
12:06 [RENÉ] Okay, so, Don, can you
12:07 tell us about these two
12:10 secondary schools in Zambia?
12:13 >> You know, I'm not a builder,
12:14 I'm not independently wealthy.
12:16 I thought to myself, "Who am I
12:18 to build two secondary school
12:20 campuses out of the bush,
12:22 you know, out of the raw bush?"
12:25 But, you know, God still lives.
12:27 He's powerful
12:28 and He has all the cattle on a
12:30 thousand hills, Scripture says.
12:32 And so I went to my congregation
12:34 that wasn't a super wealthy
12:36 congregation and at the time I
12:38 was pastoring, the church in
12:40 California, in Clovis,
12:42 California, and we prayed,
12:44 earnestly prayed, and we came
12:47 under conviction as a
12:48 congregation that God wanted
12:49 us to do something much bigger
12:51 than ourselves.
12:52 And we started all sacrificing
12:54 our little bits and selling off
12:56 things that we didn't really
12:58 need in our homes.
12:59 And it wasn't that there was any
13:01 great big contributions, there
13:03 were many, many, many small ones
13:05 and God multiplied those again
13:07 and again and again.
13:09 And then God gave many divine
13:10 appointments on my travels where
13:12 people heard about the sacrifice
13:15 of the many, and they multiplied
13:17 again and again that until soon
13:20 we had enough to build that
13:22 first campus in the northern
13:24 province of Zambia, right out of
13:26 the bush.
13:27 And then several years later,
13:28 the second campus.
13:30 And this is only because God
13:33 is able.
13:34 Whatever He asks you to do,
13:37 He always will supply the need
13:38 for you to do.
13:39 It's only when we are trying to
13:41 attempt things that He's not
13:42 asking us to do.
13:43 [MIKE] Exactly.
13:44 [DON] So that's what happened.
13:45 So those are two disciple-making
13:46 schools today and they're
13:48 sending their students out into
13:50 the public and actually are
13:51 being used of God to disciple
13:54 public school teachers, not just
13:55 students, but public school
13:57 teachers to Christ.
13:59 [MIKE] So when we're talking
14:00 about destroying the Devil's
14:02 domain, just so no one gets the
14:04 wrong idea here, we're not
14:05 talking about Zambia is the
14:07 Devil's domain or Africa is the
14:08 Devil's domain or even Canada,
14:10 anywhere in the world, because
14:12 actually this world belongs to
14:13 the Creator, right?
14:15 And so when we talk about the
14:17 Devil's domain, we're actually
14:18 talking about an illusion,
14:19 right, because the Devil
14:20 is a liar.
14:21 So when he captivates people's
14:23 thoughts and they believe that
14:25 lie that he is in control, then
14:28 they kind of get his thoughts
14:30 into their mind and they think
14:31 by having control, by possessing
14:34 things, that they
14:35 themselves are...
14:36 And so by getting Jesus's
14:38 message and the truth
14:40 into people's hearts,
14:42 then we destroy that lie...
14:44 [DON] Amen.
14:45 [MIKE] ...and we we capture
14:47 people for Jesus.
14:49 And so now this message is being
14:51 sent out by these two schools,
14:53 and that message is starting to
14:55 go throughout Zambia and the
14:57 Ministry of Education learns
14:58 about this.
14:59 And now they want you to train
15:02 200 early childhood school
15:05 developers.
15:06 How did you do that?
15:07 [DON] Well, and they wanted,
15:08 like, 20 from each of their ten
15:10 provinces, all to come to their
15:12 capital in Lusaka.
15:14 And I'm thinking, yes,
15:15 how do I do that?
15:16 And because training is
15:19 different than just speaking,
15:21 I could speak to 200 educators,
15:23 but that's not training.
15:24 I wanted them to have hands on
15:26 training.
15:27 So I prayed and
15:28 cried out to God.
15:29 God always has solutions, even
15:31 when we don't.
15:32 And so He impressed me to go
15:35 about several weeks early before
15:37 this training and to actually
15:39 gather godly people across
15:43 Zambia, nationals who walk with
15:45 God, talk with God, who I could
15:47 give training to in advance so
15:50 that they could be small group
15:52 leaders over all these teachers.
15:55 And if it wasn't for taking a
15:57 wrong bus, I wouldn't have found
15:59 some of the most precious ones.
16:01 I never should have taken it,
16:02 except that God had a divine
16:03 appointment in it.
16:05 And this is the way it happened.
16:07 So I went there several weeks
16:09 early and, again, I had almost
16:11 no money on me.
16:13 This was something that there
16:14 was no budget for.
16:15 I just-- God told me to go.
16:17 So I went to the nation of
16:19 Zambia with almost no cash
16:22 and nothing for hotels, food or
16:24 anything, but God said go.
16:27 I hopped on to a bus
16:29 only after a believer there
16:32 said, "Now, Pastor Don,
16:33 whatever you do,
16:35 don't get separated from this
16:36 bus way out in the middle of
16:37 nowhere in Zambia, or else
16:40 you could have trouble.
16:42 So stay on this bus."
16:43 I said, "No problem.
16:44 I'll stay on this bus."
16:46 I said, "Do they ever stop
16:47 for a restroom?"
16:48 "Oh, maybe in five hours or so
16:50 or six hours."
16:51 I thought, "Well, okay, I'll
16:53 pray about that."
16:54 Well, finally we did stop
16:56 and I said, "Now you're gonna
16:57 stay here for a little bit,
16:59 right, because I'm gonna go find
17:01 a restroom."
17:02 Restroom is not what we think of
17:03 here, but anyway, a restroom.
17:05 And so he said, "Yes, we're
17:06 right here."
17:07 So I went off and found a little
17:10 outhouse and there were many
17:11 people selling papayas and
17:13 everything and I was trying to
17:15 wade through all the sellers.
17:16 And I got back and
17:18 the bus hadn't left.
17:19 Oh, I was so relieved.
17:20 I jumped up on the bus and the
17:22 driver looked at me and he said,
17:23 "What are you doing here?"
17:24 I said, "I got back on my bus."
17:27 He said, "No, you haven't gotten
17:28 back on your bus."
17:30 I said, "Yes, this is right
17:32 where I left the bus."
17:34 "Maybe so, sir, but you've never
17:36 been on this bus before."
17:38 And I said, "What's going on?"
17:40 He said, "Your bus already left
17:42 and you are now going on
17:45 another bus."
17:47 And I said, "Oh no.
17:48 What do I do?"
17:49 And I said, "Where are you
17:50 headed?"
17:51 He said, "I'm going to the same
17:53 city you are."
17:54 And I said, "But all my luggage
17:56 is on the another bus!"
17:57 And he said, "Well, look, you
17:59 just go ahead and find a seat on
18:01 this 'wrong bus' and we'll see
18:03 if we can catch up with your
18:04 luggage, but I can't
18:05 promise it."
18:06 So I said, "Okay..."
18:09 And I was thinking, "Maybe God
18:11 has a divine appointment
18:12 for me."
18:13 And I'm walking down the aisle
18:15 and I sit down right behind two
18:18 well-dressed men.
18:20 And I asked the well-dressed
18:22 men, I said...
18:24 ...I said,
18:25 "Where are you going?"
18:26 And they said, "Kasama."
18:27 I said, "Well, that's where
18:28 I'm going."
18:29 And God impressed me to be bold.
18:31 I said, "You know, I am here for
18:33 a week or two praying
18:35 for God to help me meet
18:37 men and women across Zambia who
18:39 love Jesus and who love children
18:41 and who I can train to be
18:43 disciple-makers to help me
18:45 disciple 200 plus educators.
18:48 They said, "That's very nice,"
18:50 and then went back
18:51 to their meeting.
18:52 We kept on bumping along the
18:53 road and then pretty soon
18:55 they turned back to me and they
18:56 said, "You know what?
18:58 In Kasama, the city where you're
18:59 going, there is a bishop
19:02 who has...
19:04 ...who has a great love
19:05 for children and would love to
19:07 help you disciple...
19:09 ...disciple teachers from across
19:11 this nation to disciple
19:12 the kids.
19:13 I said, "Fantastic,
19:15 that's great!"
19:16 And he has others, too, make a
19:18 long story short, because I went
19:20 on the wrong bus, God helped me
19:22 recruit people from many
19:24 different Christian backgrounds
19:27 who shared a passion in
19:29 discipling children for Jesus.
19:31 >> So, Don, can you tell us, so
19:33 now you've got enough people,
19:34 you've recruited enough people,
19:36 and you're gonna train these 200
19:38 early education teachers, right?
19:41 What happened at the training?
19:44 >> The government made an
19:46 official welcome
19:48 to this teachers convention
19:50 unlike any teachers convention
19:52 the teachers of Zambia
19:53 were used to.
19:54 They were used to being gathered
19:56 together to talk about grades
19:58 and discipline and, you know,
19:59 all the things that we do here,
20:01 too, and achievement scores and
20:02 all kinds of things like that.
20:04 And...
20:06 ...they were in a shock when I
20:07 stood up in front of them, 200
20:09 plus educators, the finest of
20:11 the fine across Zambia,
20:12 precious people.
20:14 And I said something like this,
20:15 I said, "Welcome."
20:16 I said, "I have been invited by
20:19 your government
20:20 to teach you
20:23 about what it means to be a
20:24 disciple of Jesus
20:26 and a disciple-maker of our
20:28 children in your government
20:29 schools."
20:31 There was no smiles, there was
20:33 no happy reaction.
20:34 And I said, "But first, how can
20:36 we disciple the children
20:38 of Zambia
20:39 without having a revival?"
20:41 So every morning we'll have a
20:42 revival first.
20:44 No smiles, no amens,
20:47 there were many arms folded.
20:49 In fairness, what would happen
20:52 in Canada or the U.S.
20:54 if government school teachers
20:56 thinking that they were gonna
20:57 come and have a normal teachers
20:58 convention, were invited to a
21:00 revival and discipling session.
21:02 In fairness.
21:03 [MIKE] A similar reaction.
21:04 Yes.
21:05 [DON] Yes!
21:06 And so
21:07 I remember standing up and
21:09 inviting them to open their
21:10 Bibles if they had one to
21:12 Revelation 3 and sharing a
21:15 powerful message about how Jesus
21:17 is standing at the door and
21:19 knocking and how He wants to do
21:21 an in-time, work in our hearts
21:23 to call us to Christ.
21:25 And again, no amens.
21:27 Sombre faces.
21:29 But you know what?
21:30 Many, many people were praying
21:32 for every one of those teachers.
21:34 I was praying for all those
21:35 teachers.
21:35 My team that had been recruited
21:37 from across Zambia, they were
21:39 praying.
21:40 And when God's people pray,
21:42 God does big things.
21:44 Well, maybe a day later
21:46 I got this report.
21:48 This is what happened
21:50 behind the closed door
21:52 of one of the classrooms
21:53 where 20 educators
21:55 from one province
21:57 were being trained.
21:59 All of a sudden, one of their
22:01 finest educators stood up
22:03 and she held up her hands and
22:04 she said, "I'm under conviction.
22:07 I've heard their written Word of
22:08 God preached," talking about the
22:11 revival time, and she said,
22:13 "My heart is not right."
22:15 She said, "Some time ago,
22:17 one of my dearest friends
22:19 stole my husband
22:21 and I have hated her
22:22 with a passion
22:24 and I've wanted to beat her up,
22:26 I've wanted to destroy her in
22:27 every way.
22:28 Not just her reputation,
22:29 I wanted to destroy her.
22:31 And I am under conviction
22:33 that I need to forgive her.
22:35 Who will pray for me?"
22:36 And everyone was stunned
22:39 looking at her like,
22:40 "What is she talking about?"
22:43 They weren't used to hearing
22:44 people say, "Who will pray for
22:45 me?" in a teachers convention.
22:47 And she said, "I am serious!"
22:49 And she started having tears in
22:50 her eyes, she said, "I need to
22:52 know who will pray for me.
22:54 I'm desperate to be free
22:56 of this terrible
22:58 relationship I've had
23:00 with my old friend
23:01 and I want to make things
23:02 right with her."
23:04 And no one moved.
23:05 Finally, someone came up
23:07 and prayed very,
23:09 in a very uncomfortable way.
23:11 And then another one came up and
23:12 another one came up and pretty
23:13 soon the woman was sobbing.
23:16 She desperately wanted to be
23:17 supported in doing what she
23:19 didn't want to do, but what she
23:21 was called by the Word of God
23:23 to do.
23:24 And finally
23:26 the teacher said, "Okay, I think
23:27 we've prayed enough."
23:29 And so the educator,
23:32 she lept up to her feet and she
23:33 said, "I know what I
23:35 need to do."
23:36 She said, "I am leaving right
23:37 now and I'm going to call up my
23:39 friend that I haven't talked to
23:40 except for screaming at her for
23:42 a couple years, and I'm going to
23:44 tell her, 'I am sorry for how
23:45 I've treated you.'"
23:46 And everybody said, "Wait, wait,
23:47 wait, wait, wait, wait,
23:47 wait, wait.
23:48 Shouldn't you slow down a little
23:49 bit and think about it?
23:51 Because, you know, if you've had
23:51 such a terrible relationship
23:53 with your old friend that
23:55 stole your husband, maybe you
23:56 should just slow down."
23:58 She said, "I'm under conviction
23:59 by God, I need to move on this
24:01 right now."
24:02 And bless her heart, she did.
24:03 She called up her old friend
24:05 and her old friend was scared to
24:06 death to hear from her because
24:08 she had been threatened,
24:10 you know, against her life.
24:11 And to make a long story short,
24:14 she said, "I know that you stole
24:16 my husband, but I have
24:18 hated you.
24:19 Will you forgive me for
24:20 hating you?"
24:22 And the other woman started
24:24 sobbing, the one that stole her
24:25 husband started sobbing.
24:27 And some days later,
24:30 that woman who had stolen her
24:31 husband came to their house
24:33 knocking at the door.
24:35 And the educator's little girl
24:37 said, "Mommy, Mommy, that woman
24:39 that stole Daddy is coming to
24:41 our house."
24:41 And the little girl dove under
24:43 the bed and closed her door
24:44 because she just knew that
24:45 something terrible was
24:46 gonna happen.
24:48 And after a little while,
24:49 she heard laughter
24:51 and happy voices.
24:52 And she came out, she said,
24:53 "Mommy, how can you
24:55 receive this friend of yours
24:57 who stole Daddy?"
24:59 And she said, "Because of Jesus,
25:01 because of Jesus."
25:03 That's what made the difference.
25:05 And in the same week,
25:08 a mighty man
25:09 stood up in another province
25:11 and he said, "You know, during
25:13 this revival, God is challenging
25:15 me about how I am treating my
25:17 grown son.
25:18 Years ago, he wronged me and I
25:21 have basically disowned him
25:22 and I told them I never want to
25:23 see his face again, I'll never
25:25 talk to him again.
25:26 And now my grown son and his
25:28 wife have their child and I've
25:29 never seen my grandchild
25:31 and I realize
25:33 that my bitter heart
25:35 has pushed him away
25:37 and I need to ask him
25:38 for forgiveness.
25:39 Who will pray for me?"
25:40 And again, no one wanted to pray
25:42 because they were so shocked
25:43 that this very renowned educator
25:45 would publicly say, "I have
25:47 wronged my son."
25:49 And finally they prayed for him
25:52 like the first story,
25:53 and they prayed over him.
25:56 He came under conviction
25:57 to call his son.
25:58 He called his son right up
26:00 and his son was shocked.
26:01 "Father, you're not supposed to
26:03 call me, I am the one that
26:05 wronged you and the family."
26:07 "Son," he said and started
26:09 crying on the phone.
26:10 He said, "But I have wronged you
26:11 by pushing you away.
26:13 No matter what you have done,
26:14 I should have never pushed
26:15 you away.
26:15 I forgive you."
26:16 And his son started sobbing.
26:18 And that same night,
26:20 three generations came together
26:23 because of Jesus.
26:25 >> You know, we've come to the
26:26 end of our time, but I wonder if
26:27 I could ask you to pray, Don.
26:29 There are probably many people
26:31 who are listening to this, who
26:32 are viewing this that are
26:33 saying, "I need that kind of
26:35 prayer, I need that kind of
26:37 prayer for my heart to forgive."
26:40 And so let's do that right now.
26:41 >> Okay.
26:42 Let's pray.
26:43 Dear Father in heaven,
26:45 You have the power and the
26:47 ability to bring any one of us,
26:50 if we're willing,
26:51 to a revival with Jesus
26:54 and to help us forgive
26:56 people that are almost
26:58 impossible to forgive.
27:01 Please bless us, each one of us
27:03 right now, to have the heart of
27:05 Jesus, to forgive
27:08 even the most unforgivable
27:09 person.
27:10 In Jesus' name, amen.
27:11 [MIKE & RENÉ] Amen.
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