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00:52 >> Welcome to
00:53 It Is Written Canada.
00:54 Thank you for joining us.
00:56 Did you know that the Bible has
00:58 a lot to say about money?
01:00 In fact, there are
01:01 over 2,350 verses
01:04 that talk about money.
01:06 That's twice as many as
01:08 the number of verses
01:09 that speak about
01:10 faith and prayer combined.
01:12 Fifteen percent of
01:14 everything Jesus said was on
01:15 the topic of money.
01:17 For example, out of
01:18 the 38 parables Jesus told,
01:20 16 deal with money,
01:22 and one out of
01:24 seven verses in the
01:25 first three gospels
01:27 speaks about money.
01:28 In fact, Jesus spoke
01:31 more about money and possessions
01:33 than He did about
01:35 heaven and hell combined.
01:37 >> Today on
01:39 It Is Written Canada,
01:40 our special case is
01:42 Sven Tornlov,
01:43 who is going to share with us
01:45 his wisdom
01:46 on saving for the future
01:48 or investing,
01:50 and how the Bible gives us
01:52 direction when it comes to
01:53 investing.
01:55 When it comes to finances,
01:57 Sven is a person
01:59 we really trust.
02:02 Sven is the Associate Treasurer
02:04 and Planned Giving Director of
02:06 the Seventh-day Adventist Church
02:08 in the British Columbia and
02:10 Yukon Conference.
02:12 He has a bachelor's degree
02:14 in business administration
02:16 from Walla Walla University.
02:19 >> Sven, welcome to
02:21 It Is Written Canada.
02:22 Thanks for joining us again.
02:23 >> Thank you very much
02:24 for having me.
02:25 It's my pleasure to be here.
02:26 >> Sven, when we speak about
02:28 saving for the future,
02:29 we're talking about investing,
02:31 right?
02:32 And what does the Bible say
02:34 about investing?
02:37 >> I'm glad you asked
02:38 that question, because
02:39 one of my favourite verses
02:40 in the Bible,
02:42 in Ecclesiastes...
02:46 ...10, verses 19.
02:47 And maybe we'll unpack this.
03:01 Can this be right?
03:02 >> Well, it's right in the sense
03:05 of material things.
03:06 So money is our
03:08 currency of exchange,
03:09 it's the way of trading.
03:11 And so yeah, it can answer
03:13 everything in terms of
03:14 material things.
03:15 But in terms of our,
03:18 you know, our
03:19 spiritual wealth,
03:21 our spiritual, you know,
03:24 answers, questions.
03:26 Money's not the answer
03:27 to everything.
03:28 Obviously not.
03:29 >> Okay.
03:30 So I agree a for sure.
03:31 >> Yeah, so when we're talking
03:33 here about investing
03:34 for the future financially,
03:36 can you give us some basic...
03:38 ...tips to keep in mind
03:40 when we're thinking of investing
03:41 for the future?
03:42 Before we do that,
03:43 what would you say
03:45 that we should keep in mind?
03:46 >> You know, so many people
03:47 when they talk about investing
03:49 for the future and investments
03:51 and a portfolio,
03:53 I mean, we see dollar signs,
03:55 right?
03:55 That's what we see,
03:56 and we get excited about,
03:58 you know, if I put away
03:59 this much per year,
04:00 this much per month,
04:01 when I'm 65, when I'm 70,
04:03 I'm gonna have this much.
04:05 And sometimes in the equation
04:08 to get from what we put in
04:09 every month to what we're
04:11 gonna have to when we're 65
04:13 is we adjust the
04:15 interest rate factor.
04:17 And so we are,
04:19 you know, if 5% doesn't get us
04:22 to the number we need,
04:23 we throw in 6% or 7%,
04:26 8%, you know,
04:27 to get that big number
04:29 when we're going to retire.
04:30 And I think that we
04:33 could be deceiving ourselves
04:35 because where we should be doing
04:37 an evaluation for risk.
04:39 You know, how much risk
04:40 am I really willing to
04:43 put my money in...
04:46 ...when I'm looking for
04:47 my future?
04:48 Because when I retired,
04:49 I am no longer
04:50 in my working years.
04:52 So I have to be wise about
04:54 my investment.
04:55 So I feel that if we do
04:56 a risk assessment,
04:58 as opposed to looking at
04:59 how much interest my investment
05:01 is going to earn, we're gonna be
05:03 in a much better position
05:05 when we are ready to retire.
05:06 >> So different people are
05:08 prepared to take different kinds
05:09 of risks when it comes to
05:12 investing.
05:13 >> Yes, different types of risk.
05:14 And also depending on
05:15 where you are at.
05:17 You know, if you're between the
05:18 ages of 20, 30,
05:20 30 and 40,
05:21 there's a much longer period
05:23 before you're 65.
05:25 But you know, when you're 55
05:27 or 60, you need to be
05:29 reducing that risk
05:30 within your portfolio.
05:32 So I think it really depends
05:34 where you are at,
05:35 how old you are,
05:36 where you're at in your
05:37 working years
05:38 as to, you know,
05:39 your level of risk.
05:42 >> Sven, sometimes we get
05:44 so worried about saving and
05:46 we just wanna keep everything
05:47 and hoard everything.
05:49 Can you tell us a little bit
05:51 about hoarding?
05:53 >> You know, I think we just
05:54 have to drive through
05:55 a subdivision and we don't even
05:57 have to look in people's homes,
05:58 but for some reason,
05:59 we all have garages,
06:01 but none of us park in them.
06:03 Why is that?
06:05 Is it because they're so
06:06 full of stuff?
06:09 So are we all hoarding
06:11 to a certain extent?
06:13 You know, maybe.
06:14 And I think it transitions
06:15 our trust in God,
06:16 our faith in God
06:17 into ourselves and into
06:18 our own merit and
06:21 what we have and we might
06:23 be looking at our neighbour
06:24 and saying, we have
06:25 more than our neighbour.
06:26 You know, with all of these
06:28 material things,
06:30 and where that really
06:32 shouldn't be our goal and that
06:33 shouldn't be where our
06:36 level of satisfaction and
06:37 self-actualization comes from.
06:39 >> So we're not talking about
06:40 hoarding in the sense that
06:42 that's going to protect us
06:44 from the future,
06:45 to have more things.
06:49 >> There are different stories
06:50 and verses in the Bible that
06:52 talk about budgeting and giving.
06:54 You know, we read about
06:56 the woman that gave two mites
06:58 and everyone was looking at her
07:00 and thinking, Wow, like,
07:01 that's really little.
07:02 But in her heart, and Jesus knew
07:05 as well, like, that was all
07:06 that she had.
07:07 So when it comes to budgeting,
07:08 too, you know, we can't look at
07:09 others and see how much
07:11 they're giving or how much
07:12 they're saving.
07:13 Everyone's situation
07:14 is different.
07:15 And we even see, too, in the
07:16 story of Joseph.
07:17 You know, he knew that there was
07:19 going to be seven good years
07:21 where they were going to
07:22 harvest a lot.
07:23 But he also knew that
07:24 there was going to be
07:25 seven years of famine as well.
07:27 You know, God blessed him
07:29 knowing that that was going to
07:30 come and he was able to save
07:32 for the people.
07:33 And in the end, you know,
07:34 like so many people became
07:36 better off because of that.
07:37 He saved so many lives through
07:39 listening to God's guidance
07:40 with that.
07:41 Yes, I don't think, you know,
07:43 oftentimes we're going to
07:44 know exactly what's going to
07:46 come, right, but
07:47 just be prepared for
07:48 things like that
07:49 that could happen.
07:50 Sometimes an extra
07:51 medical situation could arise
07:53 that you have to pay
07:54 something out of pocket,
07:55 or God forbid, you get into
07:57 a car accident.
07:58 You know, some of these things
07:59 you just can't control.
08:01 But by having a budget
08:02 and setting money aside,
08:05 instead of now being
08:06 completely stressed, not knowing
08:08 where to get these funds from,
08:09 you prepared for the future,
08:11 knowing that, okay, even though
08:13 this bad thing has happened
08:14 to me, and even though
08:15 I didn't see this coming,
08:17 through the help of God,
08:18 I've been able to put
08:19 something aside and now
08:21 it's not going to cause
08:23 too much harm to me or my family
08:24 or to my loved ones.
08:25 Those that are affected by
08:27 our finances.
08:29 >> So planning for the future,
08:31 I've also heard
08:32 financial planners talk about
08:33 emergency fund,
08:34 having an emergency fund.
08:36 What does an emergency fund
08:37 look like?
08:38 How much should it be?
08:39 And what's the purpose of it?
08:42 >> Good, so right in the name
08:43 it gives us a hint.
08:44 An emergency fund, okay?
08:45 So there's an emergency,
08:47 I need those funds now,
08:49 you know, not next month,
08:51 now.
08:52 So a good place
08:54 to have those moneys
08:56 is going to be in a
08:57 high-interest savings account
08:59 or maybe in a tax-free
09:00 savings account, but...
09:03 ...if it's in the TFSA,
09:05 not invested in a way where
09:07 it's locked in,
09:08 somewhere where you can
09:09 receive that out, you know,
09:10 within 24 hours.
09:12 And so when I think of
09:15 emergency fund,
09:16 I wanna look at risk.
09:17 How much risk do I have
09:19 on my income,
09:21 and how much risk do I have
09:22 on my expenses?
09:23 So looking at income...
09:26 ...have I been working for
09:27 the same company for 20 years?
09:29 Am I on salary?
09:31 Or have I just started a new job
09:33 or am I self-employed?
09:35 So if I'm self-employed,
09:38 I am gonna carry a lot more risk
09:40 on my income side.
09:41 It's not steady.
09:42 But if I work for the
09:43 same company for 20 years
09:45 and I'm on salary,
09:46 it's probably a lot more secure.
09:48 So if it's not as secure,
09:50 maybe that pushes me closer to
09:51 the six-month side.
09:53 If it's very secure,
09:54 maybe closer to the
09:55 three-month side, if it's
09:56 being static.
09:57 Looking at my expense side,
09:59 if I rent, okay,
10:02 I don't carry much liability.
10:04 And so─ because
10:05 if the fridge dies,
10:07 who pays for it?
10:09 >> The landlord.
10:10 >> The landlord, not me, right?
10:12 But conversely, if I own
10:14 if the fridge dies,
10:15 who pays for it?
10:16 >> You do.
10:17 >> I do, you see?
10:19 And so I carry much more
10:20 liability when I own.
10:21 And what happens if I have
10:22 a rental suite?
10:24 If I have a rental suite
10:25 all of a sudden now I have
10:26 two stoves, two fridges.
10:28 You know, I double my appliances
10:31 and I have obligation as a
10:33 landlord now to my tenant
10:35 to be able to replace things
10:38 very, very quickly.
10:39 And so that's gonna move me,
10:41 if I own, more to the
10:43 six-month side, and if I have a
10:44 rental suite or a carriage home,
10:46 maybe more even into the
10:47 nine-months where I'm gonna
10:49 have to have nine months
10:51 or six months or three months,
10:52 depending on where
10:53 your liability sits on your
10:54 income and expense side,
10:56 to have that sitting as cash
10:58 readily available
11:01 to pay for an emergency.
11:02 >> That's a lot of money.
11:04 So you're slowly building up
11:05 this emergency fund.
11:07 So we're not saying
11:08 it's a fixed amount of $1,000.
11:10 We're talking about
11:11 whatever you would make
11:13 in that six-month period,
11:14 you should have that
11:16 in savings ready
11:18 in case there's an emergency.
11:19 [SVEN] That's right, and,
11:20 you know, there are
11:21 a number of ways to get there.
11:22 And you're not gonna get there
11:23 this month,
11:25 you might not get there
11:26 this year, but over a
11:27 number of years
11:28 you will get there.
11:29 And you know, when you start out
11:30 in life, you're finished school
11:32 and you start out,
11:34 you're, maybe you're gonna
11:36 start renting, right?
11:38 So you now maybe you're just
11:39 having the three months
11:40 of expenses.
11:41 And then when you buy
11:43 your first home after you've
11:44 rented for 3 or 4 years...
11:45 So now you're only moving from
11:47 zero, having no emergency fund
11:49 to only having three months.
11:50 Now you're moving from
11:51 three months to six months.
11:52 So you're not making that
11:54 giant leap all at one time.
11:56 And, you know, a great catalyst
11:57 for starting your emergency fund
11:59 is your tax return.
12:01 If you get a tax return,
12:02 that can be the catalyst
12:03 to start your emergency fund.
12:05 [RENÉ] That's a great idea.
12:06 [MIKE] Very good idea.
12:08 >> Sven, you've just shared
12:09 with us about an emergency fund.
12:11 Can you tell us about a fund
12:14 for future needs?
12:16 >> Sure.
12:16 I mean, I define future needs
12:18 as as myself, as a
12:19 one-time purchase of $500
12:22 or more.
12:23 So examples of this would be
12:25 buying tires for my vehicle,
12:28 putting a new roof on my house.
12:31 And I know that if I need
12:34 a new set of tires
12:35 in three years,
12:36 let's just use easy math.
12:37 Let's say tires cost $900.
12:40 Divide that by three years,
12:41 it's going to be $300.
12:44 Divide that by 12 is gonna be
12:45 $25 a month.
12:47 Okay?
12:48 So now I need to set aside
12:49 $25 a month for my tires.
12:52 I know that in ten years,
12:53 I'm gonna need to put a new roof
12:55 on my house.
12:56 Let's say it's $12,000
12:57 for easy math, divided by ten,
12:59 so you get 1,200.
13:02 Divide that by 12 months,
13:03 that's gonna be $100.
13:05 So now just taking
13:06 those two things, I need to
13:07 set aside $125 every month.
13:10 And then in three years
13:12 I'll have my $900.
13:14 We're pretty good at managing,
13:15 you know, static income,
13:17 static expenses, everything is
13:18 pretty much the same.
13:19 We pretty much use the
13:20 same amount of gas every month.
13:22 Food costs the same pretty much
13:24 every month.
13:25 Your gas bill is
13:26 annualized...
13:28 ...all of these items.
13:29 But all of a sudden, you get hit
13:31 with new tires for your vehicle,
13:32 $900.
13:33 Well, you can only water down
13:35 the soup a few times,
13:36 and then you're not─
13:37 then it doesn't get─
13:38 it's not a joy to eat anymore.
13:39 And so that's what's hard
13:41 to manage.
13:42 So if you have this
13:43 emergency fund,
13:44 not the emergency fund,
13:45 your future needs fund,
13:47 you have the dollars
13:48 sitting there.
13:49 So you take the $900 out
13:51 and you buy your new tires.
13:52 And that way you
13:53 don't have to scrimp.
13:54 You can buy good tires,
13:55 you know, for your vehicle.
13:57 When you need a new roof
13:58 for your house, it's not
14:00 stressful.
14:01 It's not this big stress time.
14:04 How am I gonna pay for
14:05 my new roof?
14:07 You use plastic.
14:09 And then you try to pay it off
14:11 and if you don't pay it off,
14:12 you end up paying
14:13 interest for it.
14:15 >> When it comes to planning
14:16 for the future, there are
14:18 different items that
14:19 different people wanna save for.
14:21 It could be a car, it could be
14:23 a house, it could be wanting to
14:25 pay for a vacation,
14:26 it could be maybe
14:27 a really big birthday party
14:29 that you wanna throw for
14:30 your child when they turn 16,
14:32 or when they turn 18, right?
14:33 There's lots of expenses
14:35 that are out there.
14:36 It's really just dependent on
14:37 what you love to do,
14:39 what you love to spend on.
14:40 Some people really prioritize
14:42 date nights as a couple,
14:43 you know, and spending
14:45 a lot there.
14:46 But when it comes to saving,
14:48 you just have to
14:50 really think about your wants
14:52 versus your needs.
14:54 And I put such a strong emphasis
14:55 on this because it can be
14:56 very easy to merge the two
14:58 together and to tell ourself
15:00 that something is a need
15:02 when it really isn't.
15:03 So there's actually something
15:05 that has kind of blown up
15:06 on social media lately.
15:07 It's called girl math.
15:09 So with girl math
15:10 there's this thought that,
15:12 Okay, if I'm spending cash,
15:14 I'm technically not spending
15:15 money because it's not lowering
15:17 the number on my bank account.
15:19 Or if I bought something
15:20 and I returned it,
15:21 now I have this refunded money
15:23 so that's money I would have
15:24 spent anyways, so it doesn't
15:25 count if I spend it again.
15:27 So you just have to really
15:29 steer away from these ideas
15:30 about, Okay, I'm spending
15:33 something that's on sale,
15:34 I'm saving money.
15:35 No, that money is still
15:37 coming out, right?
15:38 So you just have to
15:39 ground yourself when it comes to
15:40 your spending and really
15:42 look into saving and
15:43 investing specifically.
15:44 Saving is great and investing
15:46 is great as well.
15:48 Save for the rainy day.
15:49 They say that, you know,
15:50 if an emergency comes up
15:52 or by any chance maybe you
15:54 lost your job, you should have
15:55 savings for around 3 to 6 months
15:57 that can cover your
15:58 living expenses if you were to
16:00 lose your job.
16:01 So keep that in mind as well
16:03 when you're doing a budget
16:04 to have money set aside
16:05 in the case that, God forbid,
16:07 you lose your job.
16:10 >> And most employers,
16:11 you can set it up,
16:12 that they will put
16:13 this money into a
16:15 separate account or into a TFSA,
16:17 right off of your paycheck.
16:19 So out of sight, out of mind.
16:21 And this just grows
16:22 because you've taken the time
16:24 to calculate and figure out
16:26 what are my future needs
16:28 going to be.
16:29 My family, we wanna go to
16:30 Hawaii, let's say
16:31 in three years.
16:32 What is that gonna cost?
16:34 Start setting it aside monthly.
16:36 >> That takes a lot of
16:37 discipline.
16:38 And I think a lot of people,
16:39 they look at this and they say,
16:40 "Wow, I really want that."
16:43 Well, if you want that and it,
16:45 and that's a value to you,
16:46 then you're going to have to be
16:48 disciplined.
16:49 And when you get that discipline
16:50 you are free, right?
16:52 >> You are.
16:53 And it does take discipline,
16:54 but especially when your
16:55 employer can take it off of
16:56 your paycheck every pay.
16:58 Out of sight, out of mind.
17:00 You know, you do the
17:01 calculations once a year
17:03 and then you go down to your
17:04 employer, take that money off.
17:06 You know, taking off
17:07 $120, $150,
17:09 maybe $200 every month
17:11 is significantly easier
17:13 than being saddled with
17:15 needing a new roof,
17:16 $12,000.
17:18 How am I gonna do that?
17:20 Home equity line of credit.
17:21 That's a lot of places
17:22 where people turn.
17:24 And then they're paying
17:25 interest on it.
17:26 >> Sven, you mentioned
17:27 future needs.
17:28 Can you tell us a little bit
17:29 about, you know, future needs
17:32 as far as
17:34 our children's education
17:36 and also as far as
17:38 retirement is concerned.
17:40 >> So future─ your children's
17:42 future education.
17:43 I mean, that is a biggie.
17:45 I think that
17:47 99% of us would agree
17:49 that we want our child to
17:50 do something in education
17:52 beyond grade 12, whether that's
17:54 at a trade school,
17:56 you know, becoming a red seal
17:58 in some area,
18:00 or going to a...
18:03 ...four-year degree, a bachelors
18:04 or a science degree.
18:06 So how do I do that?
18:08 Well, if you look into
18:09 an RESP,
18:11 the government has
18:12 significant
18:14 incentives
18:16 to really grow
18:18 the amount of money that
18:20 you have in that investment.
18:21 So I would strongly suggest
18:23 that you go down to
18:24 your local financial institution
18:26 and─ or Google
18:28 and learn about an RESP
18:31 and start it today.
18:33 You know, make your appointment
18:35 at the bank and then research
18:36 on how you're gonna do it,
18:38 because that's how powerful
18:40 it is, an RESP.
18:41 >> What does that stand for?
18:43 >> Registered Educational
18:44 Savings Plan.
18:46 Okay.
18:47 So then in retirement,
18:49 let's talk about retirement,
18:50 that's an RRSP
18:52 which we might be a lot more
18:53 familiar with, a Registered
18:55 Retirement Savings Plan.
18:57 And there are a number of
18:59 schools of thought
19:00 around retirement,
19:02 your own retirement,
19:03 because you have such a
19:04 long period in which you are
19:06 investing for it,
19:08 and hopefully equally
19:09 as long period that you're
19:11 gonna be able to enjoy it
19:12 in retirement.
19:13 But it cannot be our sole focus
19:15 that we are just driving
19:17 all of our extra dollars
19:18 into our retirement because
19:20 we also need to enjoy
19:21 our working years.
19:22 You know, we only have
19:24 so much time to enjoy our
19:26 children being in elementary,
19:29 you know, only so much time
19:30 that they're gonna be
19:31 in their teen years
19:33 and pretty soon they're gone.
19:34 So if we don't enjoy
19:35 those times either
19:37 to bolster the family unit,
19:39 you know, to keep our marriage
19:41 going strong, we still need to
19:43 take care of that.
19:45 But in looking at our
19:47 retirement, we do have
19:48 a long period of time.
19:49 Hopefully we have a long period
19:50 of time because we're gonna
19:52 start, if we haven't started,
19:53 we're gonna start today, okay?
19:56 We're going to start today.
19:57 So you need to in retirement,
19:59 have some...
20:01 ...tax-deferred growth,
20:04 which is probably gonna be
20:05 into an RRSP.
20:06 But also you're going to need to
20:08 have some that has already been
20:10 taxed so that when you're
20:12 in retirement
20:13 and you need to talk to a
20:15 strategist, a professional
20:16 financial advisor on this,
20:19 but when you are retired,
20:21 your money that is tax deferred,
20:23 you will probably set that up.
20:25 So it's a monthly payment
20:27 that's coming out
20:28 so that you don't get
20:29 hit with these large tax burden
20:31 in a single year in retirement.
20:33 But if you have,
20:35 like let's say in retirement,
20:36 you need a new roof
20:38 or you want to go on a holiday
20:39 or you need to pull out
20:40 a chunk of money,
20:41 you have a chunk of money
20:42 set aside which has
20:43 already been taxed.
20:45 And that's probably going to be
20:46 invested in a TFSA,
20:47 Tax-Free Savings Account.
20:51 >> Let me give you an example.
20:53 This came from a professor
20:54 at MIT in the States.
20:57 And as far as visualizing
21:00 the power of compounding.
21:03 If you could take Fenway Park...
21:07 ...and make it watertight...
21:10 ...and you had a magic
21:13 eye dropper...
21:16 ...where it would start with
21:17 one drop
21:19 and then it would
21:21 double and then double again
21:24 and then double again,
21:26 if you were sitting
21:27 up on the top tier
21:30 of the stadium...
21:33 ...how long would it take...
21:36 ...to fill up the entire stadium
21:39 with water?
21:42 And...
21:45 ..everybody is always wrong.
21:47 If you then also ask
21:49 the question,
21:51 how long would it take...
21:54 ...for there to be six feet
21:56 of water in the stadium?
21:59 The answer to that
22:00 is 40 minutes.
22:03 The amount of time to go from
22:04 The amount of time to go from
22:05 six feet to the top
22:08 stadium seat?
22:11 Forty-five.
22:14 Why?
22:15 Because remember,
22:16 every drop that's coming out
22:19 is doubling.
22:23 So when it's starting
22:24 when it's small, it's like...
22:27 ...yeah, this...
22:29 ...this isn't doing anything.
22:30 This is gonna take forever.
22:32 But once it starts to build...
22:37 ...it gets big fast.
22:41 And that's what we miss about
22:43 debt when we're paying
22:44 someone else.
22:45 We're putting money
22:47 in someone else's pocket
22:49 versus if we had kept it
22:52 and put it to work,
22:54 what it could be
22:55 doing for us.
23:01 >> This is very good.
23:02 So we're talking about
23:03 balancing all of our finances
23:06 and our financial needs
23:07 and seeing the big picture
23:10 of what we need now
23:11 in the present term and not
23:14 all hoarding it for later.
23:15 Sort of like the guy
23:16 in the Bible who
23:17 has a big barn,
23:20 but he wants to build a
23:21 bigger barn because he has
23:22 a big harvest,
23:23 and he just hoards and hoards
23:25 and hoards and he just sits back
23:26 and he says, "Well, now I don't
23:27 have to worry about anything."
23:28 And he forgets about God.
23:29 And the Lord says, "Well,
23:31 you're a fool
23:32 because your life could be
23:34 required of you today."
23:36 So we don't know when that's
23:37 gonna happen.
23:38 So we can plan
23:39 for the future,
23:40 but also
23:42 live in the present,
23:44 very important in terms of
23:45 all of this.
23:46 >> Sven, could you please
23:48 give us some timeless rules
23:50 for investing?
23:51 >> Sure.
23:52 Let's go back to the Bible...
23:55 ...and look up in Proverbs...
24:02 ...chapter 21, verse 20.
24:15 So when we think about
24:16 investing, we need to
24:18 realize that this is gonna be
24:19 a work of a lifetime.
24:21 If systematically, every month,
24:24 every paycheck, for all of
24:26 your working years...
24:28 ...so that, you know, when we're
24:30 retired, we are not a burden
24:32 on anyone, and we are still able
24:34 to be generous with others
24:37 and still being able to
24:40 help when people need help.
24:43 So we need to realize
24:44 that it is just as vital
24:46 as sleeping, as eating,
24:49 a very systematic approach.
24:51 This is where
24:52 the tortoise wins the race.
24:55 >> Yeah, very good advice.
24:57 I'm going to ask you to pray.
24:58 I'm just thinking in terms of
25:00 money as being comparable
25:02 to something.
25:03 I like to compare it to seed,
25:05 right, some of it
25:06 you can use, maybe it's
25:08 wheat seeds.
25:09 Some of it you can replant
25:11 and then it can grow again.
25:13 That would be savings.
25:14 And some of it you have to eat.
25:16 And so some of you have to spend
25:17 on our current needs right now.
25:20 And maybe someone is listening
25:21 to us right now and
25:22 they're thinking,
25:24 I haven't saved enough.
25:25 And I'm in a kind of a─
25:27 I'm in a real tight spot
25:29 right now, and I'm listening
25:30 to this program and I realize
25:32 I have some future needs,
25:33 I have a present need,
25:35 and I haven't saved enough.
25:36 Maybe they're in their,
25:38 closer to their retirement years
25:39 and they're worried.
25:40 Maybe you can pray for them
25:41 right now that God will
25:43 give them wisdom
25:44 to trust Him,
25:46 that He will provide
25:47 for their needs,
25:48 but also trust Him to
25:50 see a strategy
25:52 for making the right decisions.
25:54 >> Sure, let's bow our heads.
25:57 Dear Father, I wanna thank You
25:58 for the love and grace
25:59 that You have given to us, Lord,
26:01 and that you have
26:03 given us wisdom, Father.
26:05 And Lord, I would like to pray
26:07 for all of those who are
26:08 thinking about
26:10 their future needs.
26:13 And Lord, if
26:15 they are struggling with that,
26:17 give them energy to be
26:18 systematic in that approach.
26:20 And if they feel that they
26:22 have...
26:24 ...earned retirement years.
26:26 Lord, they have such a
26:28 tremendous asset to pass on
26:30 to the younger generation
26:32 to help them through
26:34 the mistakes that they
26:35 might have made, Lord.
26:36 So please grant us wisdom.
26:38 In Your name I pray, amen.
26:40 >> Amen.
26:42 >> Sven, thank you so much
26:43 for joining us on
26:44 It Is Written Canada today.
26:46 >> You're welcome.
26:47 Thank you.
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27:03 for all who put
27:05 their trust in Him.
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27:37 >> Friends, if you want the
27:38 kind of wisdom
27:39 that God longs to give you,
27:41 even in the financial areas
27:44 of your life,
27:45 we would recommend
27:46 you open the Bible
27:48 where it is recorded that
27:50 Jesus found His assurance
27:52 to defeat the devil
27:54 through the Word of His Father
27:57 when He declared...
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