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00:00 (uplifting theme music)
00:13 (music ends)
00:16 >>Welcome to "Sabbath School,"
00:17 brought to you by It Is Written.
00:20 We're glad that you could join us again this week
00:21 as we continue our journey through the book of Ephesians.
00:25 This week we are on lesson number 11,
00:28 getting close to the end,
00:30 "Practicing Supreme Loyalty to Christ."
00:33 So we're gonna delve into some interesting verses today,
00:36 not a long passage but a very important one.
00:39 Let's begin with prayer.
00:41 Father, we ask that You'll be with us
00:43 and guide our study in this chapter
00:45 of the book of Ephesians today. We ask that You'll bless us
00:49 and help us to understand some significant relationships
00:52 better than we did before.
00:55 We ask that You'll bless our time,
00:56 and we thank You in Jesus' name. Amen.
01:00 Well, we're happy to be back again
01:01 with the author of this quarter's Sabbath school lesson,
01:04 Dr. John McVay.
01:05 He's the president of Walla Walla University.
01:08 John, welcome back.
01:09 >>Glad to be at the table, back at the table with you, Eric.
01:12 >>Back at the table.
01:13 And this week, it's not a long passage.
01:16 >>No, it's nine whole verses.
01:17 >>Nine whole verses-- >>Mm-hmm, it is.
01:19 >>...and yet a significant nine verses.
01:22 >>Significant for a variety of reasons,
01:25 the last part of this has to do with the relationships
01:29 between slave masters and slaves
01:32 or slaves and slave masters,
01:34 and that's a challenging issue to think through.
01:37 >>So this has the potential to be very, very interesting.
01:40 >>It does. >>Well, why don't we begin
01:42 by reading just a few of the verses here
01:46 and then starting to unpack and see
01:48 what some of these themes are? >>Sure.
01:50 >>We're looking at Ephesians, chapter 6,
01:52 and we're looking together at verses 1-9.
01:55 And Paul begins with these words;
01:57 he says, "Children, obey your parents in the Lord,
02:01 for this is right."
02:02 Then he quotes one of the commandments:
02:04 "'Honor your father and mother,'
02:06 "which is the first commandment with promise:
02:08 "'that it may be well with you
02:10 and you may live long on the earth.'"
02:14 So if we wanted to summarize this week's lesson,
02:19 these nine whole verses, how might we summarize it?
02:23 And then I want to start digging
02:25 into this relationship or this element,
02:29 this aspect that Paul talks about here with children.
02:32 What was it like to be a child in the first century?
02:35 And what would Paul have expected his readers to understand
02:39 living in that day that maybe we're not getting today?
02:42 So what's the general thrust of this section?
02:45 And then what about children?
02:47 >>Wow. The general thrust in the case of children
02:50 is what you would expect. It's,
02:52 Paul's advice to children is, "Obey your parents." (laughs)
02:56 There's a biblical mandate to do so,
02:59 and God will bless you
03:01 through your obedience to your parents.
03:04 In the case of slaves, of course,
03:06 it gets nuanced toward that relationship,
03:10 and slaves are, as you can see in verse five, are to obey.
03:16 Children are to obey.
03:17 Slaves are to obey their earthly masters.
03:22 But throughout the few verses there on slavery,
03:26 starting with slaves themselves
03:27 and moving briefly to the slave owners,
03:30 Paul has some advanced ideas
03:33 that he's wishing to share with them.
03:35 And he's trying to, as we suggested in an earlier segment,
03:39 fill in, infill the husks
03:42 of the first century relationships,
03:43 including the one between slaves and slave masters,
03:47 with the values of the gospel.
03:49 And so he sows the seed of real transformation here
03:54 in pondering how the values of the gospel
03:57 actually inform these relationships.
04:00 >>All right, so that gives us an overview of this section.
04:03 What about children? What would that have been like
04:06 back in Paul's day? >>Well, with a little bit
04:08 of a reading and study,
04:09 we can begin to figure out the contours
04:12 of what it meant to be a child back in that time.
04:16 And part of it
04:18 is that it's a very different society
04:21 than some of the societies that people live in today.
04:25 This is not an advanced place. It's a sophisticated city,
04:29 Ephesus is a sophisticated place, and yet it has
04:33 a kind of 97% to 3% split,
04:38 judging from the remains and documents that are left behind.
04:43 So 3% live pretty well off.
04:47 When you go to Ephesus, Eric--
04:50 I don't think you've been there yet.
04:51 >>Not yet, it's on my to-do list.
04:53 >>We need to get you there.
04:54 At least it needs to be on your bucket list
04:56 for the time being. >>That's right.
04:57 >>But when you go there,
04:59 in recent years they're excavating something
05:03 called the terrace houses.
05:04 And these are homes that are on a hillside there,
05:08 at least last time I was there,
05:09 were covered with some protection,
05:12 and you go in under the cover, and you look at these places,
05:15 and these are quite large
05:18 very beautiful, well-decorated homes
05:22 with all of the aura of wealth about them.
05:26 But that kind of thing is 3% of the population;
05:29 97% of the population lived just at
05:33 or mostly below the level of sustenance,
05:36 what we might call the poverty line.
05:39 And so that 97%,
05:42 those people in the 97%,
05:45 lived very different lives.
05:46 And some of the features about the first century
05:48 that are traumatic, from a child's point of view,
05:51 is that infant mortality was very high.
05:57 And then the child death rates were extreme, too.
06:01 It was somewhat unusual
06:03 to live beyond 5 years of age and so on.
06:06 So, the children felt, I'm sure,
06:11 at risk. Life was tenuous.
06:15 And when you add some of the customs of the age to that,
06:20 it becomes really challenging.
06:23 A father had the legal right to expose a newborn.
06:28 And children are expensive,
06:29 and they often exercised that right,
06:32 especially if it was a female child.
06:35 And they would expose them to the elements,
06:40 and the infant would either die out in the open
06:43 or be adopted by someone, usually a slave trader,
06:47 who would raise that child
06:48 until a point when they could be sold.
06:51 So that's a fairly grim context
06:55 for being a child, and it was a daunting assignment
06:59 to be a child in ancient Ephesus and any ancient city.
07:03 >>So not exactly something
07:05 that you would desire for yourself.
07:07 I mean, everybody gets to be a child at some point,
07:09 but if we could choose a time period in which to be a child
07:13 and a place in which to be a child, it doesn't sound like
07:15 this would be a preferred time or place.
07:18 >>No, and of course a significant portion of the population
07:21 would be slaves,
07:22 and slave children were especially vulnerable
07:25 because adding to all those other things,
07:27 which they would've had
07:28 more than a lion's share of the risk in,
07:31 they also faced the threat that their owner,
07:34 the owner, so-called owner, could sell them at any time.
07:38 They could be separated from their nuclear family and so on.
07:41 And that's, again, really, really tough
07:44 set of societal circumstances
07:47 and context for children in the time.
07:51 >>And with that context, Paul kind of,
07:53 he talks about the responsibilities here
07:56 of parents to children. >>Yes, he does.
07:58 >>Maybe there's a little bit of hope
08:00 in the biblical perspective on these things.
08:03 >>Yeah, so in verse 4,
08:05 when he turns from talking to children
08:07 and he turns to fathers,
08:09 now he actually refers to parents,
08:11 which would include mother and father in verse 1,
08:14 but the second half is addressed only to fathers.
08:17 And it's interesting how he begins:
08:20 "Do not provoke your children to anger"--
08:23 which is suggestive that that was probably
08:27 what some Christian fathers were doing.
08:29 They were provoking their sons or their daughters to anger.
08:33 And Paul says, "Don't do that. Don't do that."
08:39 Fathers had unbridled, unbounded authority.
08:43 They could do most anything they wanted
08:45 with their own child.
08:47 Now, in Paul's day,
08:49 those prerogatives were being bounded
08:53 a bit by public opinion,
08:55 but still in terms of their legal rights and so on,
08:58 they could pretty much do what they wished
09:00 with their son or their daughter.
09:03 And Paul is, again, trying to restrict
09:06 this patriarchal authority and bound it.
09:10 "Don't provoke your children to anger."
09:13 And the alternative that he gives is to "bring them up
09:17 in the discipline and instruction of the Lord."
09:20 Now, "Lord" in Ephesians
09:23 seems to always refer to the Lord Jesus, so this is Jesus.
09:27 So, "Bring them up in the [fear]
09:30 and instruction of the Lord."
09:32 So is this the instruction that comes from the Lord,
09:36 from the Lord Jesus?
09:38 They're to train them up, to raise them in Christian faith.
09:42 The most significant overarching figure
09:45 in these relationships is the Lord, is Jesus.
09:50 >>And it speaks here of raising them up or bringing them up
09:53 "in the training and [the] admonition of the Lord."
09:57 You used a moment ago the word "fear,"
09:59 but I'm sensing that "fear" is more of
10:02 a reverence of the Lord rather than what we
10:07 typically today consider fear. >>Sure, yeah.
10:09 Yeah, we can, we sometimes translate that term, "awe."
10:11 >>Yes, yeah, I think "awe" is a much better
10:15 or more easily understood word for us.
10:18 In verse 5, we make a transition here
10:21 from the relationship between fathers and children
10:24 or parents and children
10:25 to bondservants. >>Mm-hmm. Sure.
10:27 >>What do we see happening now
10:29 as Paul makes this transition? >>Yep.
10:32 Some of the translations do use the term "bondservants."
10:36 If you look at this issue closely,
10:39 this is the standard word for "slave."
10:41 It's just "douloi"--slaves--
10:45 and it's probably better to stick with that.
10:48 Some of the translation teams use "bondservants."
10:52 The ESV, when it came out, had "slaves,"
10:56 and now they've switched to "bondservants,"
10:58 and they do that in attempt
10:59 to think about a specific set of servants, house slaves.
11:03 House slaves could be treated relatively well,
11:07 and so some argue that the term "bondservants"
11:12 is more accurate in that context than "slaves."
11:15 However, if you look at the whole arena
11:18 of slaves and slavery in the Greco-Roman world
11:22 and in a city like Ephesus and so on,
11:24 it had a lot of very, very grim realities to it.
11:29 Even if they could save up,
11:31 as slaves could actually own things--
11:34 there's records of slaves owning other slaves,
11:36 oddly enough--
11:39 if they could save up the wherewithal, the finances,
11:43 perhaps placing it in trust
11:46 at Artemis' Temple,
11:49 which was also a banking center,
11:51 they'd save their money up, they'd keep it there,
11:53 and finally they'd get the amount of money
11:56 that they needed to buy their freedom
11:57 so that they could be manumitted, or freed, from slavery.
12:02 Now, most of us, when we think about that process, think,
12:04 "Hooray! It's done. They've won their freedom.
12:08 Now they're free people."
12:10 But it's a little different than that
12:12 in the first century context.
12:13 First of all, for men and women,
12:17 the life expectancy was very short,
12:21 about 40 for men, about 30 for women.
12:24 And most manumissions occurred
12:27 about the time someone was 30. And that sounds like,
12:29 "Well, they've got lots of life left,"
12:31 but not in that context. That's kind of end-of-life stuff.
12:35 The other thing is,
12:36 is even if they were manumitted, they didn't gain freedom
12:40 as you and I understand freedom to be.
12:42 They become a freed person,
12:46 which is an interesting status, a freedman,
12:50 which isn't quite a slave,
12:52 but it's a long way from being free.
12:54 The slave owner actually had the right
12:56 to continue to ask them to do certain things.
12:59 They still had a relationship of obedience
13:02 to the former slave master.
13:04 And if the slave master wished,
13:06 he could simply cancel the manumission
13:09 and recall the slave into service.
13:12 So, you know, it's a complex, difficult setting.
13:16 >>That's not exactly what you and I
13:18 might consider to be free,
13:20 as it were. >>No, and all of this
13:23 that we're talking about here,
13:24 in terms of the first century context, Eric,
13:26 makes us a little nervous about some of the uses
13:30 we make of this set of passages.
13:33 We, as Christian believers reading our Bibles,
13:36 tend to read the part
13:38 about wives and husbands
13:42 and the part about children and parents
13:44 and read it quite straightforwardly
13:47 as applying today just as it did back then.
13:51 But part of what we have to remember
13:53 is we have to develop a way of interpreting
13:56 the whole set of rules of the Christian household.
13:59 And we can't treat one part one way
14:01 and then the part about slavery a different way,
14:04 especially when the autocratic powers
14:08 that were accorded to the husband, father, and slave master
14:13 colored these other relationships as well.
14:16 The slave master who was a father
14:19 could have almost a slave-like relationship
14:23 with his children,
14:24 could dominate his wife in a similar fashion.
14:27 And so we have to be very careful
14:29 that we tease out Paul's efforts
14:33 to breathe life and grace and hope into these relationships.
14:38 >>And that's what we're going to be doing
14:39 in the second half of our program today,
14:42 digging more deeply into the relationship
14:44 between parents and children and also slaves.
14:47 So this is an interesting subject this week.
14:50 I wanna encourage you: Make sure that you pick up
14:53 the companion book to this quarter's Sabbath school lesson.
14:55 If you want to understand a little bit more deeply
14:58 these relationships that we're talking about today,
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15:08 It's the companion book
15:09 to this quarter's Sabbath school lesson on Ephesians
15:12 by John McVay.
15:13 We are going to be coming back in just a moment
15:16 as we continue looking at this very interesting subject.
15:19 We'll be right back.
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15:24 >>[John Bradshaw] "I know your works and where you dwell."
15:28 These are some of Christ's first words
15:30 to the ancient church of Pergamos.
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15:34 Pergamos was filled with pagan temples,
15:36 one of which was dedicated to a god
15:38 whose symbol was a serpent.
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15:42 to early Christians in Pergamos?
15:45 "You hold fast to my name, and did not deny my faith,
15:49 "even in the days in which
15:50 "Antipas was my faithful martyr....
15:53 But I have a few things against you."
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16:58 >>[Eric Flickinger] Welcome back to "Sabbath School,"
17:00 brought to you by It Is Written.
17:02 We're continuing looking at
17:03 "Practicing Supreme Loyalty to Christ" this week.
17:07 This is lesson number 11.
17:09 We're talking about children and parents, slaves and owners.
17:14 John, I wanna come back to something.
17:15 We've been talking about slaves,
17:16 but I wanna bring us back to something here
17:18 for just a moment and then back to slaves again
17:20 because it is rather interesting.
17:22 But when we talk about relationships
17:25 between parents and children,
17:28 Paul is doing a masterful job in this book
17:31 of helping us to see the relationship that
17:33 we need to have with Christ. >>Mm-hmm.
17:35 >>What do we learn about relationships
17:38 based on what he's talking about here
17:40 between parents and children
17:41 and how we ought to have a relationship with Jesus?
17:44 >>You know, I think the simple,
17:47 straightforward instructions that Paul gives
17:49 harbor some profound, a profound principle.
17:54 So, Paul says to children,
17:56 "Children, obey your parents."
17:59 And you might have expected full stop, period.
18:02 But he says "in the Lord," again signaling,
18:07 much as we saw in Paul's counsel
18:11 to Christian wives, the relationship with your parents
18:16 is crucial and important if you're a child,
18:18 and you need to honor and respect and obey them.
18:21 But that's to be done in the Lord.
18:24 In other words, there is a relationship
18:27 that is yet higher on the scale,
18:31 and that's the child's relationship with the Lord.
18:36 And what I see Paul doing
18:39 in that little phrase, "in the Lord,"
18:40 is drawing these children in, as themselves believers,
18:45 honoring their relationship with the Lord,
18:50 cultivating that relationship, respecting it,
18:52 respecting them as members of the church community.
18:57 And we don't know precisely what the ages
19:00 of the group is that Paul's referring to.
19:03 The term "child" could stretch over some time,
19:08 even until the father's death, you know?
19:10 So if you had a long-lived father,
19:12 you could be a child for a while.
19:15 In this context, because of Paul's remarks
19:17 about the instruction that is needed to them,
19:20 these are younger children
19:21 who need careful instruction and teaching,
19:26 so they're probably children
19:26 much as we would think of today.
19:29 And yet Paul kind of draws them into the circle
19:32 of respected members of the Christian family
19:36 and honors their relationship with the Lord.
19:39 And I think that that's wondrous and that's tender,
19:43 and it reminds me of a narrative in the Old Testament
19:45 that I see a similar thing happening.
19:48 First Samuel, chapter 3, verses 1-21,
19:52 you'll remember the story of Samuel as a lad,
19:57 as a boy in the tent,
20:01 in the tabernacle, right?
20:02 In the worship space that they had at that point.
20:07 And he's serving under a priest named Eli, right?
20:12 And one night, Samuel is awakened
20:15 by his name being called,
20:17 and he rushes to Eli and he says, "I'm here. You called me."
20:22 You remember the story? >>Yes.
20:24 >>And this happens repeatedly.
20:26 And finally, Eli gets it.
20:30 Finally, Eli gets it: "Then Eli perceived"--
20:35 1 Samuel, chapter 3, verse 8--
20:39 "Then Eli perceived that the Lord"--
20:41 and you'll notice that's in small caps,
20:44 it's all in capital letters, so it's Yahweh.
20:47 So Eli comes to the realization
20:51 that Yahweh is calling the boy.
20:56 Now, it's curious because Eli
20:58 is serving in the tabernacle, in the tent.
21:02 He's serving there.
21:04 It's says in verse 1, "Samuel was ministering to the Lord
21:08 in the presence of Eli."
21:11 And it also says that "Samuel was lying down
21:14 in the temple of the Lord"--verse 3.
21:15 So, he knows about the Lord,
21:19 but it gives us the sense here
21:21 that he did not yet know the Lord.
21:25 And yet the Lord speaks to him.
21:27 And there comes that holy moment when Eli perceives
21:32 Yahweh is calling the boy.
21:35 And Eli acts on that and honors that and respects that,
21:39 even when God eventually connects with Samuel,
21:44 shares a judgment message on Eli and his house,
21:48 and Samuel shares that message with Eli.
21:51 And Eli says, "It is the Lord.
21:54 Let Him do what seems good to Him."
21:56 This is a story about someone, Eli in this case,
22:01 who comes to recognize that moment
22:04 when Yahweh speaks to a boy.
22:07 And it strikes me that particularly those of us
22:09 working with children and young adults and so on,
22:12 we ought to be attentive to the relationship
22:17 between God and that young person or that child.
22:21 We ought to be ever watchful for that moment
22:24 when Yahweh speaks to that one. That's a sacred moment.
22:28 We ought to honor it and respect it,
22:30 much as Paul suggests in Ephesians
22:32 and as is reflected in the story of Samuel and Eli.
22:36 >>So Paul talks about that relationship,
22:38 and we almost wish that he had spent more verses
22:42 talking about that. >>Yes, yes.
22:44 >>But he does make some profound observations
22:47 and give some great counsel in those few verses.
22:49 But then as we've mentioned before,
22:51 he talks about these bondservants, or slaves, as it were.
22:56 What kind of advice, what kind of counsel
23:00 does Paul give to slave masters?
23:03 And again, how do we take that from the first century
23:07 and bring it down here-- >>Sure.
23:08 >>...much further down the line?
23:11 >>So here would be my summary of what he says to slaves.
23:14 And he says it to them over and over again in various ways.
23:20 He says to them, make a grand substitution.
23:25 Substitute Christ for your slave master.
23:30 Serve your real master, Christ.
23:35 In a sense, he says, forget about the master in the flesh.
23:40 Put Jesus in that place and serve Him with full heart
23:45 and do great work.
23:47 But it doesn't have to be directed to the slave master,
23:51 the earthly slave master.
23:53 Direct it to Jesus. Make a great substitution.
23:56 Put Jesus in the place of your slave master.
24:00 Fascinating strategy, isn't it,
24:02 for working in this environment
24:05 and infusing these difficult, challenging,
24:09 what from our perspective we would certainly call
24:12 immoral relationships, someone owning another one.
24:16 He's trying to infill the husks of those relationships
24:19 with the values of the gospel.
24:21 >>There are certainly slaves today.
24:23 Many of us may not interact with them on a daily basis
24:28 or at least recognize that we are,
24:30 but there are employer-employee relationships.
24:33 >>Yes. >>Do we take those
24:35 and just kind of bring the same concepts over?
24:38 How does that all work?
24:40 >>Well, I think there's some danger in doing so,
24:43 or maybe I would say we have to be very careful in doing so
24:46 because as Christians,
24:49 we have a long history with these words about slavery,
24:54 and we want to be careful.
24:57 There's a whole history of Christians
25:01 being engaged in helping to create
25:04 a better atmosphere for employees or workers
25:07 to do their work,
25:08 to have rights and work days of a reasonable length
25:13 and all the rest, child labor laws, and so on.
25:18 Most all of that stream of legislation
25:22 and societal change
25:24 is rooted in people who believed in God
25:28 and believed in the immorality of slavery and so on.
25:33 So we wanna be careful, then, that we honor that history
25:37 and that we don't just port over these words
25:40 about slaves and slave masters into our time,
25:43 and potentially port over some assumptions
25:47 about employers and how they can behave
25:50 that Paul would not really have agreed with in his time,
25:54 and given this stream of
25:57 legislative societal work based on Christian principles
26:01 we would certainly not agree with.
26:03 So you have to be a little bit careful about it.
26:05 But having said that,
26:07 I think there's something to be heard here.
26:10 We all probably have some nagging, egotistical,
26:13 overbearing people in our lives.
26:15 And I think Paul's good counsel to these slaves,
26:19 substitute Jesus for the slave master,
26:22 probably fits in those contexts.
26:25 In other words, you put Jesus in that place
26:28 and do what you need to do for Jesus
26:30 and see how that impacts that egotistical, overbearing,
26:35 dominating person in your life.
26:37 >>It sounds like Paul has good advice
26:39 not just for first century folk
26:41 but for us today as well.
26:42 >>I think it does take us a little extra work
26:44 with passages like these,
26:47 but it's there; the truth is there.
26:50 The word for our time is there.
26:52 >>Absolutely.
26:53 And we trust that you have been blessed
26:55 by our study this week as well.
26:58 We've looked at the relationship
27:00 between parents and children,
27:02 we've looked at the relationships
27:03 between slaves and masters,
27:06 and ultimately, what we're looking at
27:07 is the relationship that Jesus wants to have
27:10 with each and every one of us.
27:13 And that only comes to pass
27:14 as we choose to have that relationship with Him.
27:17 He wants to have it with us, but we have to choose
27:20 to have that relationship with Him as well.
27:23 And as we continue looking at the book of Ephesians,
27:25 we will continue to see how we can have that relationship
27:29 by the choices that we make,
27:31 and that all comes from a better understanding
27:33 of Christ and His character.
27:37 We're looking at the book of Ephesians this quarter,
27:39 Paul's incredible story-letter
27:42 to help us understand the Lord better.
27:45 God bless you, have a wonderful week,
27:46 and we'll look forward to seeing you again
27:48 next time on "Sabbath School,"
27:49 brought to you by It Is Written.
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