Jesus 4 Asia Now

A Vision for Kashmir

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00:00 (bright music)
00:22 - Hello and welcome to Jesus for Asia Now.
00:24 I'm Natalie Wood
00:25 and my husband John is with me today,
00:26 as we bring you a miracle story
00:28 and a vision to expand the Kingdom of God
00:31 into an unreached place.
00:33 Hello love.
00:34 - Hi darling, how are you?
00:35 - I'm doing fine.
00:36 I'm very curious about where we're going today.
00:39 - Well we are going to a place that we have been before
00:43 for quite a number of years.
00:45 We're going to see a miracle story
00:47 and this is what i love about our Bible workers is that
00:50 they just keep doing amazing stuff,
00:54 where God keeps doing amazing stuff through them.
00:56 - Yeah, that's the more accurate way to put it.
00:58 Everything is because of God.
01:00 - Oh absolutely.
01:01 Yeah.
01:02 Our breathing, right?
01:04 And then the next part we're gonna go to a place
01:06 that has no Adventist presence whatsoever.
01:08 - Oh okay.
01:10 - 12.5 million people and so I am so excited
01:14 because it's not often you get
01:16 to do something that historic.
01:20 - Right.
01:23 That's for sure.
01:24 - Yeah.
01:25 And so as a as a JFA family,
01:27 our donors, our supporters,
01:30 our people whose hearts are there that pray.
01:33 We're gonna hear two miracle stories today
01:36 and with tremendous potential.
01:38 - Okay
01:40 - And the thing that kind of ties these stories together
01:41 is that the first story is coming from a place
01:44 where little over 10 years ago,
01:46 there was basically no work.
01:50 And they had this one state and
01:53 the eastern half of the state had lots of work,
01:56 lots of Adventist presence.
01:58 The western half of the state had nothing.
01:59 Do you remember that?
02:01 And so they bifurcated the state
02:03 and they sent a pastor, the secretary and the president
02:08 into that place.
02:10 Three people for like 10 million people.
02:12 And they requested JFA for 10 Bible workers.
02:16 and by faith we stepped out and said yes,
02:18 and here 10 years later
02:20 they've got 10 or 20 different meeting houses,
02:26 churches with several hundred,
02:28 probably over a thousand people meeting every sabbath,
02:32 worshiping God.
02:34 - Yeah.
02:35 From nothing?
02:36 - Yeah from nothing to established work
02:38 and today that's one of the reasons why today's story,
02:43 because it's from that area,
02:44 is so special to us.
02:47 - Right.
02:48 Wow.
02:49 - Yeah.
02:50 So we're talking about Rajkot, right?
02:52 - Yes.
02:53 - Okay, yeah.
02:54 I love that place, those people are so sweet.
02:56 That was the place where I was greeting them all
02:59 as they were leaving the church and they got in the line
03:02 and then after I would greet them,
03:04 they would go back and get back in the line
03:06 so I could greet them again.
03:07 And I was like,
03:09 "You guys, this is not according to the plan."
03:15 But anyway we had a great laugh over it
03:16 when I realized that I was seeing them again.
03:19 - Yeah, they just loved you.
03:21 They've seen me several times but they loved you.
03:27 (bright music)
03:43 - I'm really excited because this is the first time
03:46 and my family has been with me in North India.
03:52 - Rajkot is a hundred kingdoms.
03:55 (bright music)
04:34 - Bye-bye.
04:35 (bright music)
05:06 - Happy to be here...
05:07 (speaks in foreign language)
05:10 (bright music)
06:13 - So this is from this story that we're going to be talking
06:16 this next video is from that place.
06:19 - Okay.
06:20 - To kind of understand the power
06:22 and the miracle level of the story,
06:26 we have to understand that
06:28 there's a strong caste system in India.
06:31 It's not legal,
06:33 but it's inbuilt into the religion.
06:36 So everybody thinks along caste lines.
06:38 Now caste as you know,
06:40 there's four major castes
06:42 and then there's the outcastes.
06:43 And the highest caste of all that is the Brahmins.
06:47 They're the leaders,
06:48 they're the spiritual guides, the spiritual leaders.
06:51 And the majority of the Christian church
06:56 is from the lower caste or even from the outcaste.
06:59 - Right.
07:00 - And so it's been very difficult
07:01 to reach the Brahmin caste.
07:06 Because for two reasons,
07:07 number one, they already have their religion.
07:11 And number two, they won't even drink a cup.
07:16 - It's been used by a low caste or an outcaste person.
07:19 - Exactly.
07:20 - Especially outcast.
07:21 - I mean we think there's racism in America.
07:24 - Yeah, it's a touch point.
07:26 But this is even within the race.
07:29 - The religion.
07:31 So it's built into that religion.
07:34 So the idea of a Brahmin coming to Christ,
07:40 number one he's breaking caste
07:41 which means that he'll get cast out of his village,
07:44 be thrown out of his village.
07:45 - Yes, usually.
07:46 - Excommunicated from his family.
07:48 - Right.
07:49 - Not allowed to even associate with them anymore
07:51 and if he's allowed to live.
07:54 - Yeah.
07:55 - And so this is a major serious thing.
07:58 And so the story you're about to hear is just,
08:03 well anyway we should just show the the video.
08:07 - Yes.
08:08 Okay.
08:10 - His name is Maheshdafda from Dharba Tolukah.
08:14 It's a very fanatic area.
08:17 And it's hard to work for the Lord in that particular area
08:21 because people are actually in the idol worship.
08:26 But today we will hear from him
08:29 about how he could bring other people
08:32 for for the glory of God.
08:35 (speaks in foreign language)
08:41 - Actually nearby his village,
08:43 is another village, and he went there.
08:45 Madubai Mohonbai Stimali is living there,
08:49 and actually they are from Brahmimn community.
08:52 They are the highest post in the caste system
08:55 so they never come to the Lord.
08:57 But they were suffering too much.
08:59 He had three daughters two sons.
09:02 Mother was lame.
09:04 And they were actually undergoing
09:08 a very critical financial problem.
09:12 And he uh met our brother Maheshdafda
09:16 and they started praying together.
09:19 And actually first people were mocking on him
09:23 because what prayer will do?
09:26 But after some time,
09:29 the family came out from the financial problem.
09:33 His two sons got job in a private company
09:37 and they helped his family.
09:39 And the family which were actually suffering
09:44 last so many years,
09:46 they got a knowledge of real God.
09:49 His mother is literate,
09:51 so she started reading New Testament.
09:55 Then they believed and they gave a big feast
09:59 to their family members and their relatives
10:03 and nearby 60 people were there.
10:06 And they all openly declared their faith on Jesus Christ.
10:12 (in foreign language)
10:17 And it was actually great day.
10:20 That same day, 12 people were baptized.
10:22 Whole family was baptized.
10:24 All got New Testament and all became
10:27 the first Advent believers in that particular district
10:31 because Sunday worshipers are there
10:34 but we didn't have the Adventist believers
10:38 in that particular district.
10:41 He got the chance actually to meet his relatives
10:44 from the same Brahmin community.
10:45 And he goes there
10:47 and he preaches the word of God.
10:50 And the converted family told their their relatives,
10:57 "At least one time hear Maheshdafda.
10:59 At least one time.
11:00 And you hear what he's saying
11:02 and which kind of God is there
11:04 and how God is working,
11:05 how prayer is working."
11:07 And because of that,
11:09 he is able to reach some five or six
11:11 other Brahmin community families.
11:14 So thank you, Mahesh
11:17 for you're work.
11:19 (in foreign language)
11:22 He's saying that it is God's work and God's Word.
11:27 - So, isn't that an amazing story?
11:29 - Yeah.
11:30 - I mean this family instead of hiding it,
11:31 instead of worshiping God in secret,
11:34 they called a whole family get-together,
11:38 like a family reunion through a party.
11:40 - Yeah.
11:41 - And told everybody about their--
11:43 - Straight out, they were gonna be serving Jesus.
11:46 - Yeah and then say you need to hear what is prayer,
11:50 how does it work?
11:51 Who is this God?
11:52 How do we serve Him?
11:53 All this kind of stuff, you just hear him once.
11:55 And this is amazing.
11:59 - Yeah, wow.
12:01 What a blessing.
12:05 To think about how this family was hurting so badly,
12:10 and then because of prayer
12:11 they saw God answer their prayers--
12:13 - Yes.
12:14 - And then they came to know the true God.
12:16 - Yeah and it just reminds me
12:18 that we serve a living God.
12:19 A real God.
12:21 - And he cares about every single one of our problems.
12:23 Every single one of our issues.
12:25 - Yes.
12:26 And he was working,
12:28 I believe He was working with that family
12:30 before they became converted.
12:33 And so Christ is striving with every soul on the planet.
12:37 - Right.
12:38 - And it takes a human to come and connect.
12:40 Make that connection.
12:42 And so it's a beautiful thing.
12:44 Very beautiful thing.
12:45 - Yeah, wow.
12:46 And God is protecting them many times
12:49 like we said before the video,
12:51 there's so much anger in the community and in the family,
12:55 when someone decides to become a Christian.
12:58 And it's such a blessing that God
13:00 is protecting them from that.
13:02 Opening the doors for more people to learn about Him.
13:05 - Yes exactly.
13:07 So see why I was excited about this story.
13:09 - Yeah, it is a miracle.
13:11 and it's beautiful.
13:12 - Yeah, absolutely.
13:13 - Wow, all right.
13:15 Well now we're gonna talk about an opportunity
13:17 and also a miracle.
13:18 - Yes.
13:19 - So we're going to the north now,
13:21 we're leaving Rajkot and going to the north.
13:23 - Yeah, now Rajkot is already in the north,
13:26 but now we're gonna go to the northern most part of India.
13:32 - Okay.
13:33 - You know how India has that kind of, like that?
13:35 Well we're going up there.
13:36 - Okay.
13:38 - And people are familiar with the state already,
13:41 the name of the state.
13:43 They may not recognize it as an area in India
13:47 but it's Kashmir.
13:49 Everybody knows about Kashmir clothing, Kashmir wool.
13:53 - Right.
13:54 - This is where this is from.
13:55 - Okay.
13:56 - So we're going to Kashmir.
13:57 And the reason why this is so exciting is that
14:00 you remember that we have been talking about Punjab.
14:05 - Right.
14:06 - Where the entire southern half of the state of Punjab
14:08 had no Adventist presence whatsoever.
14:10 - Right.
14:12 - And so through our donors and our supporters
14:14 we've been able to project 20 new Bible workers
14:18 into southern Punjab.
14:20 - Right.
14:21 - And they already have brought somebody to the Lord.
14:22 Now this happened just right here in 2020
14:25 when this project started.
14:26 - Right.
14:27 - Well the president of that,
14:29 they call it the North India section,
14:31 okay, that section is over Punjab and Jammu and Kashmir.
14:36 - Okay.
14:37 - Okay, so he's talking to me
14:39 and he is telling me about the north.
14:41 Of course whenever people go touring,
14:44 the large percentage of them go up to the north
14:47 because you can rent motorcycles and you can go up,
14:49 touring up those roads way up through the Himalayas
14:52 and you know it's like a real adventure.
14:55 And so he had been talking to me.
14:58 He started telling me about the north
15:00 and come to find out, there's no work up there.
15:05 There's no Adventist believers
15:07 in the entire state of Kashmir.
15:09 - Wow.
15:10 Did there used to be?
15:11 Were there ever?
15:13 - Back 40 years ago, they had started something
15:16 but there wasn't enough support for it.
15:20 People got and leaders got moved around
15:21 and it just kind of dissipated.
15:24 So basically that 40 years ago, those few members
15:28 were all that there was in the history of Kashmir.
15:34 - And so in Jammu,
15:37 which is on the southern side of Kashmir.
15:40 It's like another state kind of,
15:43 I don't know.
15:44 - Section anyway.
15:45 - Yeah.
15:46 - The state.
15:47 - Yeah gospel outreach
15:49 has been sponsoring five Bible workers in that area.
15:52 - Okay so there's some work there?
15:54 - There's some work there.
15:56 But this is like uh 300 kilometers north
15:59 and separated by massive mountains.
16:02 I'm gonna show you some pictures of these mountains,
16:04 they are the some of the biggest in the world.
16:07 And there's a city in in a valley.
16:12 It's a beautiful green valley surrounded
16:14 by these massive high mountains,
16:15 with Pakistan to the west
16:18 and mountains all the way to Everest,
16:21 all the way through Nepal to the east.
16:23 I mean just hundreds of miles of massive mountains.
16:27 And right in this green valley is a city called Srinagar.
16:31 So we were working to put Bible workers into south Punjab.
16:36 - Right.
16:36 - And we went up there,
16:38 I went up there personally and met the president.
16:41 And it was Pastor Kishore Gill.
16:43 - Okay so this is his picture with you?
16:45 - This is his picture with me
16:46 and we went through some amazing experiences.
16:49 I went back later with my photographer Jonathan Hill
16:52 and we spent a few days touring south Punjab.
16:55 Love those people.
16:57 Wonderful people.
16:59 And then later he said,
17:01 "Look this is the story of what's happening in Kashmir."
17:06 And you have to read this.
17:08 Okay, this is from Pastor Kishore.
17:11 He says, "I've mentioned that Mr Faz and his family
17:13 were the first converted Adventists from Srinagar in 2017.
17:18 And the way he got converted is that
17:20 he used to spend his winters in Jammu.
17:22 with the Gospel Outreach Bible workers.
17:24 He was helping the church there
17:26 but he was living his summers up there in Srinagar.
17:29 Recently he's decided to spend
17:31 his winters up in Srinagar also.
17:33 Over the last four years,
17:35 he and his family have been witnessing
17:37 and they've got 10 other families
17:40 that are joining the faith also.
17:42 - Wow, that's neat.
17:44 - And he's been mentoring and training six other young men
17:49 to be Bible workers.
17:51 - Wow.
17:52 - Okay, so now for the first time in the history of Kashmir
17:58 we've got seven people ready to step out and do Bible work.
18:03 - Wow.
18:04 - I've never been up there.
18:05 I want to go.
18:06 But I wanted to get a sense and a feel
18:09 for what it was like up there.
18:10 So then I purchased some stock footage
18:13 of the Kashmir area and especially Srinagar,
18:18 the main city there.
18:20 The main city has about 1.2 million people in the city.
18:23 And it's got a beautiful lake right there,
18:25 so a lot of tourists go up there and go on the lake.
18:28 They've got like vegetable--
18:31 - Like a floating market?
18:32 - Yeah, floating market on the lake.
18:35 And so we're gonna just like go there
18:38 but first we wanna check out these images.
18:40 Now this first image is we're coming from the south
18:44 and you can see this beautiful green fertile valley
18:48 and beyond it these massive mountains.
18:50 They just go on forever.
18:52 And right in the middle, a little bit to the left,
18:55 a little bit up you see a little red dot.
18:57 That's where Srinagar is.
18:59 And you go down lower you see maybe some rivers
19:03 and then you see those little kind of gray dots around,
19:06 those are all villages, individual villages.
19:10 So the vast majority of the population of Kashmir
19:14 is in this valley.
19:16 Because the rest is just super mountains,
19:19 I mean tall mountains, okay.
19:21 And so this picture is coming from Pakistan from the west,
19:25 there's that mountain range there
19:27 and then there's this valley in which Srinagar is in.
19:31 And that's the city where that family is
19:34 and our seven Bible workers,
19:36 I'm calling them ours now, are living.
19:39 - Wow.
19:40 - Yeah, okay now this is a closer up shot of,
19:44 you can see Srinagar down there.
19:47 And then this is kind of an overview
19:48 of the mountains looking east.
19:50 Wow that's towards Everest.
19:52 But Everest is on the other end of Nepal.
19:56 So it's a long ways away.
19:57 - Right, so it's not visible to the naked eye?
19:59 - No, not in this image.
20:01 Now this next image, this is coming from the north
20:04 towards Srinagar, you can see we've got
20:07 these white cloud snow cloud mountains
20:10 and this next shot is looking straight down
20:13 from that position that it was at.
20:15 This is glacier.
20:17 So it's just an amazing place to to have a presence
20:26 of the gospel.
20:28 And I'm excited about that.
20:30 Right, it's very needed.
20:32 Okay so now we have this little video,
20:36 it's just short little thing.
20:37 One and a half minutes that I put together,
20:39 just to get a feel for the people, the place.
20:42 It kind of motivates our prayers a little bit more.
20:46 - Right.
20:47 (downbeat music)
22:16 - So the last shot of the slow pan over the city,
22:21 that's Srinagar, so you can see how populated
22:24 it actually is,
22:25 so many people there.
22:26 - Wow.
22:27 - So this is the power of the Bible worker,
22:30 is that they're already there,
22:31 so we don't need to send them there
22:33 and they don't need to learn a new language and--
22:36 - Or culture.
22:36 - Culture especially.
22:38 So while we're here sitting in our homes,
22:41 the Gospel can still advance.
22:44 - On the other side of the world.
22:45 - Yes we can have an impact.
22:48 We can hasten the day.
22:49 - Right.
22:50 - So I'm excited.
22:53 So the last, you know Ellen White,
22:55 the one of the founding members of our church,
22:58 the last few years of her life,
23:01 I don't know if it's years or months or what
23:03 but she was in a house just below the St. Elena Hospital,
23:09 and they would look down there at night
23:11 and they would see lights in the room
23:13 and those were actually angels conversing with her.
23:16 And she said herself,
23:18 she says, "I hear voices in the night.
23:20 They are saying, advance, advance, advance.
23:23 Press the battle to the gate."
23:26 So in other words there are still victories to be won.
23:29 This is our chance to increase the population of heaven.
23:34 - You know brings tears to my eyes to think about that
23:36 because there's so many people out there that don't know.
23:41 So many people.
23:42 - That don't even have an opportunity to know.
23:45 - Right, and that sense of urgency,
23:47 do we really have that sense of urgency
23:50 that it's like you know this advance, advance, advance.
23:55 It just brings tears to my eyes thinking about
23:59 how many people there are in this world that don't know
24:01 and don't really have opportunity to know.
24:04 - That's the key is they don't have access
24:07 to that knowledge.
24:08 - But thank the Lord, He's opening this area.
24:12 And He's giving us an opportunity to be a part
24:14 of sending workers there.
24:15 - Yes absolutely.
24:17 - What a privilege.
24:18 - That's huge to make heavens,
24:20 to make history in heaven.
24:22 Now I know you said you call it bringing tears to your eyes
24:26 but honey we had to stop the show
24:28 because you were you were weeping.
24:30 And I know that I do more of the traveling,
24:36 you get to sit here and see the finances,
24:40 with the great need and the resources that we have
24:43 and I know that your heart is to see
24:46 the advance of the gospel speed up.
24:51 - Yeah.
24:53 - Because the way that we're going now
24:55 it's not keeping up with the pace
24:58 of what our opportunities are
25:00 and if we're really talking about eventually
25:03 of the world knowing about Jesus before He comes,
25:08 we've gotta go all in.
25:12 - Right, we've gotta be urgent.
25:14 We've got to take the the burden that God has given us.
25:18 So I mean it's really humbling actually
25:21 to think that God shares His burden for souls with us.
25:25 - Yes.
25:26 - And He's willing to let us taste a little bit of that.
25:28 I can't imagine what He feels.
25:30 It touches my heart when I think about this particular area
25:34 or that particular area but He's got the entire world
25:37 and He's looking at all of it all at once
25:39 and He sees my gospel,
25:43 my voice, my heart has no representative over here.
25:47 No representative over here,
25:49 there's one person there,
25:50 there's three people there,
25:51 He has thousands of people.
25:54 Like He told Elijah,
25:55 "I have thousands that have not bowed the knee."
25:58 Like yet how many more can there be?
26:00 How many more can there be?
26:02 - Yes, and that's a topic for another show
26:04 because I want to talk about some people say,
26:06 "Well you know there will be people in heaven that have
26:09 never heard the name of Jesus.
26:11 So then why do we need to go as missionaries?
26:13 Why do we need to work hard
26:14 because there'll be people there anyway?"
26:16 - Right.
26:17 - And I believe that there's three groups,
26:19 one group would be there in heaven
26:21 whether they heard the name of Jesus or not.
26:23 Another group will not be in heaven
26:26 whether they hear the name of Jesus or not,
26:28 but the third group will not be in heaven
26:31 unless somebody tells them about
26:33 a sin pardoning loving savior and they change
26:36 and they accept Him.
26:38 That's the group.
26:40 - Yeah.
26:41 - And who's to say who's in which group.
26:44 those are the people that we're going for.
26:47 - We have no idea which group they're in.
26:50 So we can't say it's not important to send
26:53 the gospel somewhere because it's inconvenient
26:55 or it's expensive or it's you know.
26:58 - It's life and death.
26:59 - Right, right.
27:00 We have to say,
27:01 we have to try to send the gospel everywhere,
27:04 knowing that it's only by His Spirit
27:06 that anything is gonna happen anyway.
27:08 - Right.
27:09 - But if we don't open our hearts to His Spirit
27:12 and let Him use us wherever He chooses,
27:14 in whatever way He chooses then we're closing the door.
27:18 And that's not safe other people for eternity
27:21 and maybe on ourselves.
27:23 - Right.
27:25 But here we have a chance to make history for heaven.
27:27 - And friends, friends for eternity.
27:30 - Absolutely.
27:32 - And have more people to cast their crowns at Jesus' feet,
27:35 that will be amazing.
27:37 - It's gonna be a good day.
27:38 It'll be a great day.
27:40 - Yes.
27:41 - Well if you would like to help make history for heaven,
27:45 make friends for eternity,
27:47 you can contact us at Jesus for Asia,
27:49 PO Box 1221, Collegedale, Tennessee 37315.
27:56 Call us at 423-413-7321
28:00 or visit our website at jesus4asia.org.
28:03 May God richly bless you until we see you next time
28:07 on Jesus for Asia Now.
28:09 (bright music)


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