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Series Code: JFAN
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00:21 - Hello and welcome to Jesus for Asia Now. 00:23 I'm Jon Wood 00:25 and normally my wife is the one that's hosting this show, 00:27 but we have a special guest today 00:28 and I wanted to take the opportunity to interview him. 00:32 I'm here with Lloyd Howel and Lloyd, with his family, 00:35 has just recently been in Cambodia. 00:37 Lloyd, what inspired your family 00:39 to go as missionaries to Cambodia? 00:41 - Well, my wife and I have been interested 00:42 in missions for a while now. 00:44 A few years back we went to Compassion International 00:47 to go through the Compassion experience. 00:50 And what they do is they have a trailer that you go into 00:53 and you kinda see what the mission field is like. 00:55 - Oh, so they have like a hut set up. 00:57 From like a slum in India or something? 01:01 - Right and you wear headphones and you go through the story 01:05 of the life of somebody 01:07 that lives in one of those poverty-stricken areas. 01:11 So it was a very enlightening experience. 01:14 And as we went there, we really felt the urge to go 01:18 to one of these places and to help however we can. 01:23 That kind of fizzled out a little bit. 01:24 We didn't end up leaving anytime soon. 01:28 Then my daughter ended up going on some mission trips 01:30 to Dominican Republic and different places. 01:33 And she got interested in missions. 01:36 And then we went to Faith Camp. 01:38 And at Faith Camp, the Lord really tugged on our hearts 01:41 that missions is where he wants us to be. 01:44 And my wife decided that she really wanted to do this. 01:47 And I believe she talked to you. 01:49 - Yeah (laughs). 01:50 - And this opportunity to go to Cambodia came up 01:53 and we felt the Lord was leading us to do that. 01:56 So we went and took that step. 01:58 - Well, let me find out what your wife's credentials are. 02:02 One of our missionaries from Cambodia 02:05 had been praying for somebody like her. 02:07 And so she came over and claimed your wife. 02:10 (laughing) 02:11 She with me, you're with me, 02:12 don't talk to anybody else. 02:15 So that's-- 02:16 That happened and then how long did it take 02:20 for you to get from that Faith Camp 02:22 and the decision to go to then actually going? 02:26 - It was about a year and a half. 02:30 We decided that we wanted to go, 02:32 had some loose ends to tie up, 02:35 a little fundraising, trying to get the money together. 02:38 You're talking a family of four going to a strange country. 02:41 - Yeah (laughs). 02:42 - It was interesting because as we made that decision, 02:46 there were a few other young people that we knew, 02:49 well, that decided they wanted to go also. 02:53 They wanted to experience Cambodia, see what it's like 02:56 and see if in any way, they can be helpful 02:59 to the people there. 03:00 So we ended up taking three other teenagers with us. 03:04 So that was an experience in itself. 03:06 (laughing) 03:08 - Yeah, so I remember, I know one, one young lady, 03:11 she went like last minute. - Yes. 03:14 One of them, probably two weeks before we left, 03:20 she told us she was interested 03:21 and we had not truly met her before. 03:25 I think my kids met her once or twice before. 03:28 And so we had to meet her family and talk to them 03:32 and she actually got her own money together 03:35 to pay for her tickets and she said she wanted to go. 03:38 And I said, well, if the Lord is leading, 03:40 we prayed about it and she came along with us on the trip 03:42 and she was a blessing. - Yeah. 03:45 And you guys are friends now. - We're friends now. 03:47 (laughing) - Seem like best friends now. 03:50 Before you went, we did some unique training, 03:53 especially for the young people that went. 03:56 A lot of people don't understand that in Asia, 03:58 what's the main mode of transportation? 04:00 - Yeah, so in Asia, what we found out 04:02 was everybody rides mopeds. - Yeah. 04:05 - Very few people have cars. 04:07 Very few people can afford cars. 04:08 But in Cambodia, once you reach a certain age, 04:13 I think it's 14, you're allowed to ride a moped 04:16 even without a license, 04:17 as long as it's under a certain power. 04:21 So Jesus for Asia allowed us to use their motorcycles, 04:25 dirt bikes, out here 04:27 and taught us how to ride, taught the girls how to ride, 04:29 so that they would be able to function 04:32 when we got out there. 04:33 - So we had set up this program 04:34 specifically for this purpose. 04:37 Cause in Thailand especially, everybody rides motorcycles. 04:40 And we have some missionaries that when we say, 04:42 well this person's interested in coming to help you 04:44 at your mission project, 04:45 the first question is, can they ride a motorcycle? 04:48 And we have our own kids too 04:50 and it's like, I would much rather them learn 04:52 in a low-stress situation where they're on dirt or mud 04:57 rather than in the middle of a town 04:59 where there's traffic and cement and everything like that. 05:02 And so our donors have been very generous 05:05 and we've been able to buy three motorbikes, 05:08 old used motorbikes, 05:09 but we put these girls on the motorbikes 05:13 and some of them are very, very nervous. 05:16 Your girls weren't so nervous about it. 05:19 Your wife was kind of nervous. 05:20 (laughing) 05:22 But your daughters are pretty strong, 05:23 but there's a couple of girls that are like 05:25 I don't want to do it, I don't want to do it. 05:26 And then they start asking questions 05:27 and how does this work and what happens there? 05:30 So we explained it, walk them through. 05:31 Before long, they're like (hums). 05:34 (laughing) 05:34 Really having a ball. 05:36 - It was truly a blessing 05:37 because when you get out there, 05:39 if you need to ride a motorbike or go anywhere, 05:41 it's like all the school kids have bikes. 05:44 So these motorcycles are all over the road 05:47 and it's packed and it's crowded, some areas. 05:49 And the traffic rules and laws aren't the same as ours. 05:54 So it's a challenge. 05:55 And if you don't already know how to ride, 05:57 it's really nerve wracking. 05:59 So it was a real blessing that they learnt here, 06:02 before we went over there. - Yeah, very cool. 06:04 So when you got there, 06:06 what was the first thing that impressed you 06:07 about what's different in Cambodia? 06:10 - Well, one of the things that really caught my attention 06:13 was idol worship (laughs). 06:17 The statues. 06:20 When we read the Bible, we hear about idol worship 06:22 and in America, we really don't see it. 06:25 We think about, well, our cars can be an idol 06:27 or our our TV or internet. 06:31 Those all can be idols, 06:33 but we don't think about the big statue 06:36 as an idol very much. 06:37 But when you go to Asia, 06:40 they have these big statues all over the place. 06:42 They have them on the roundabouts, on the road. 06:45 Every home has a alter in it with a statue. 06:49 Every store has an altar in it with a statue 06:51 and they worship these things. 06:53 They put food out for it every day. 06:57 They put money on the tables for it every day. 07:01 I've never experienced something like that, 07:02 it's really amazing, but this is their life. 07:04 This is what they believe in. 07:07 They don't know about Christ. 07:10 They've never heard about Jesus, this is how they live. 07:13 So it was really interesting. 07:16 - Wow. 07:17 So they're aware of spirits? 07:18 - Yes. 07:19 - They believe that spirits are there? 07:21 - They truly have a deeper understanding 07:26 of the spirit world than we tend to. 07:31 A lot of people don't realize Satan is real 07:36 and there are spirits out there. 07:38 They're not the spirits of our dead ancestors, 07:40 like many of these people believe, 07:42 but they're fallen angels. 07:45 And they're out there and they do cause havoc in the world 07:48 and they do cause problems 07:50 and people can talk to them and worship them 07:53 and they will do things for these people. 07:55 But they don't understand what it truly is, 07:58 that it's not of God, it's not the right thing. 08:01 It's demonic, it's wrong. 08:04 But they're aware of it and it is there. 08:06 A lot of places have what we would call a scarecrow 08:12 in front of their homes to keep evil spirits away. 08:14 - Wow. - You know. 08:15 And this is their life, this is what they know. 08:19 And it's trying to help them to understand 08:22 that there is a God 08:23 and that God is more powerful than the devil. 08:26 And so these things that they understand, 08:28 that they're running from, they're afraid of 08:31 are things that God can protect them from. 08:33 - Wow. - And so, 08:35 teaching them about Christ and what he's able to do 08:37 and who he is, is so important. 08:41 - So then the difference 08:42 must be from the lifestyle into Chr-- 08:44 And I know that you were only there for a few months. 08:47 You probably didn't see a conversion yet, right? 08:51 - I did not see the conversion while I was there. 08:53 - But it seems like it's going from that lifestyle, 08:56 that mindset, that understanding of the world, 08:59 to going to an understanding of the world 09:01 where the strongest spirit in the universe is a good spirit, 09:05 a good one that loves you would be tremendous. 09:07 - Yes. 09:08 As we worked with some of the young ladies 09:09 that we did work with, 09:11 we have some young ladies that are in college over there, 09:13 that are training to be teachers 09:15 in the school that we're trying to establish. 09:18 As we worked with them, we realized, 09:20 even though some of them have been in the church 09:22 for a long time, there's a lack of understanding 09:27 of spiritual things. - Really? 09:29 - And even though many of not just them, 09:32 but many Adventists, many Christians out there, 09:35 are starting to understand who Christ is, 09:37 they still have a strong connection with the spirit world 09:42 and the beliefs of the spirit world. 09:44 So as we start teaching them and working with them 09:48 about God and true love and what God's love is all about 09:52 and how God wants to help us and protect us, 09:55 there are little breakthroughs. 09:57 And you can see that they've been taught one thing 10:02 their whole life. 10:03 And now you're trying to show them what we know is truth. 10:08 And it's a challenge. 10:10 It's hard to understand and to truly be converted. 10:15 Only God can do that. 10:16 And so you have to just, through your lifestyle, 10:20 through your actions is what they'll really see 10:24 and say you know what, there's something different, 10:25 I wanna be more like whoever this individual is reflecting. 10:30 - Right. - Who is God. 10:31 - Yeah. 10:32 So even not just what they know, 10:34 but how they process information, how they think, 10:38 all of that is different, correct? 10:40 From what we're used to. - Yes, very different. 10:42 I say very different, but in a lot of ways, 10:45 it's just sin has done so much to us as a people, 10:49 in the world. 10:50 And pride, things like power. 10:59 There's levels in Asia of power, like lifestyle, 11:04 like you know we have the poor, the middle-class 11:06 and the rich. - Right. 11:07 - Okay, well we all in America, 11:10 we think, well it doesn't matter if you're poor. 11:11 If you struggle and you try, you can one day be rich. 11:14 You can own that, you can grow, you can be this, 11:16 but over there it's like, well, this is where I am. 11:19 I'm at this class and it's not gonna change 11:21 unless I marry rich. 11:23 (laughing) 11:24 And it's accepted that because I'm at a lower class, 11:29 that the higher class is dominant and I'm a servant to them. 11:35 Whatever they say, I do because they're above me class-wise. 11:39 And because of that, there's a real separation 11:42 between the classes over there. 11:46 I'm trying to help them to understand that in God's way, 11:50 we're all equal. 11:51 This guy is not above you. 11:53 You are not above this person because you have more money 11:56 or because I have a higher job 11:59 or because you're a different complexion. 12:01 We're all equal in God's eyes. 12:04 Trying to help them to understand that is truly a challenge 12:06 because that's not their mentality. 12:08 - Right, yeah. 12:10 Yeah. 12:11 So tell me a little bit about Cambodia. 12:13 How many people live in Cambodia? 12:15 - Okay, Cambodia, 12:17 there is over 16 million people in Cambodia. 12:21 - [John] Okay. - Okay. 12:22 And as far as Christianity goes, 12:25 as far as Seventh Day Adventists, 12:26 I think we have about 3000. 12:29 - 3000 out of? - In the country. 12:30 Out of 16 million. 12:33 Okay, so you see how difficult that would be, 12:34 to reach the people? 12:36 Yeah, so out of the 3000, 12:39 there's actually a percentage of them 12:41 that are from other countries. 12:43 We've got missionaries, we got people coming from Thailand 12:46 or coming from the Philippines 12:49 or other places that are there in Cambodia, 12:52 trying to work with the people like we are. 12:54 So there's actually less than 3000 Adventists 12:57 that are actually Cambodian. - So the church 12:59 is actually quite small. - So the churches are small. 13:01 - Is it a poor church, is it a wealthy church? 13:03 Do they have a lot of extra tithes? 13:05 - Okay, so as far as the tithing goes and the churches go, 13:09 they're very poor in that country. 13:11 So it's a very poor country. 13:13 Probably about 34, $35 a year per person 13:17 is the tithing that's gone there. 13:20 So there's not money to evangelize, 13:22 there's not money to grow. 13:24 - And of course you're over there too. 13:27 - So we're there trying to evangelize, 13:28 trying to help the people to have a better education. 13:32 So we're trying to start a school in Cambodia at this time. 13:34 The education in Cambodia is very poor. 13:38 Cambodia was in a war in the 70s and there was a genocide. 13:44 They killed a lot of people, 13:46 mostly those that were considered educated. 13:49 So if you wore glasses and you looked educated, 13:50 they killed you. 13:52 All right, if you were a teacher, a doctor, a lawyer, 13:54 all these professions were killed off in the 70s. 13:57 Okay. 14:00 And today in Cambodia, 14:02 since all those teachers and leaders were killed off, 14:07 you had a group of young people 14:08 that grew up without a true education. 14:12 And these young people are today the teachers and leaders 14:14 that are teaching the young people today. 14:16 And so, their education is really, really behind. 14:21 And so we're trying to start a school 14:23 that's gonna help the people. 14:26 - Okay. 14:27 So it's like not even a generation. 14:29 And that repression was still there. 14:31 That civil war is there until like 20 years ago. 14:34 - Yes, lot of people don't realize it was so bad there, 14:40 the property that we recently purchased to have the school 14:42 we had to have them check it for mines, for landmines 14:45 because a lot of the places off the roads 14:48 still have landmines and anti-tank mines. 14:53 You'll meet a lot of people on the streets 14:54 that are missing a leg or missing an arm 14:57 because they've walked into a mine 14:58 and things like that has happened even today. 15:00 - Amazing. 15:01 You know, when I was there in 96, 15:03 they say that you could go to the black market 15:04 and buy an anti-personnel mine for a dollar. 15:08 - Wow. 15:09 - So if you had trouble with your neighbor, you know. 15:11 And then an anti-tank mine was only $5. 15:14 - Oh man. - And at that time, 15:15 there was more landmines in the country than people. 15:19 And so whenever I went out walking, 15:21 I never went off the road 15:23 and I always followed a local Cambodian 15:25 that had been through the killing fields. 15:27 And so how does this impact you living there, 15:30 in the middle of all this leftovers, from all this struggle 15:36 and bloodshed and everything, 15:37 how did that impact you being there 15:38 in the middle of all that? 15:40 - Yeah, so when you get there, 15:42 you realize what the country's been through 15:44 and you start seeing the poverty of the place 15:48 and you realize we're rich in America. 15:53 We struggle, lot of us struggle, 15:55 a lot of us don't have jobs right now, 15:57 but we're still rich compared to them. 16:00 And we realized like, Lord, what are we doing? 16:05 There's these people out here that don't know Jesus. 16:07 They don't know God, they don't know love, 16:10 they don't know anything. 16:12 And we're sitting at home in our houses, 16:15 driving our cars and sitting on our couch, watching our TV. 16:19 We don't even care. 16:21 And it's sad. - Wow. 16:24 - It hurts. 16:25 I'm like, we need to help. 16:27 We need to do something to reach these people, 16:29 to let them know that there is a God, 16:31 there is somebody out there that cares 16:33 for each and every one of them. 16:35 - Okay, so was it like depressing? 16:36 Did you feel the oppression there 16:39 or did you feel just this sense of burden to wanna help? 16:45 How did that affect you and your family? 16:46 - Every day is the same to them. 16:48 They don't have-- 16:49 Like we have a weekend. 16:51 We have the Sabbath and we have Sunday and we take a break. 16:55 But with them, it's like every day 16:57 is the same monotonous life. 17:00 There's no church, 17:01 in America you see a church on every corner. 17:04 And you know it's Sunday 17:05 cause everybody's in church on Sunday. 17:07 You know it's Sabbath cause people go to church on Sabbath, 17:09 but over there, there isn't that. 17:12 So every day is the same. 17:14 And there's-- 17:16 It's like a lack of joy in their eyes and their hearts. 17:20 One thing one of the young ladies told me, 17:22 she said I admire how you interact with your children, 17:26 with your daughters. 17:27 Our parents don't do that. 17:29 So there's not that love, that personal closeness 17:34 in the family even. 17:37 They are family oriented, don't get me wrong, 17:40 but it's different, it's not the same. 17:42 - Yeah, right. 17:43 Okay, so what's the status of the school at this point? 17:47 - Okay so, 17:48 well, the Lord us with a piece of land out in Cambodia 17:51 and it is 12 hectors, which is about 34 acres. 17:58 - Okay. 17:59 - And it was interesting when we went to look at the land 18:02 and we checked out the property and everything, 18:04 we found out that there was some issues. 18:09 The person that sold us the land, 18:11 there was a section of the land that we didn't get. 18:16 Exactly which section that was, we weren't sure. 18:18 (laughing) 18:20 So we had to get in touch 18:21 with the person that sold us the land, 18:23 get the barriers marked out and everything. 18:26 So in this picture here, 18:28 we're out there with the owner of the land, 18:32 a government official 18:33 and somebody from the town that we live in 18:36 and we're putting posts up, marking the actual borderlines 18:40 of our property 18:41 and the other piece of property that was there. 18:43 - Okay, all right. 18:44 - And so when we finally got that all figured out, 18:47 praise the Lord. 18:48 - And after the landmines work. 18:49 - And after the landmines were all cleaned out, 18:53 we had to level the whole property. 18:54 It wasn't as level as we like it to be 18:56 to start building on it. 18:58 So in these pictures, we're showing 19:01 as we're leveling the property and we finally got it. 19:04 - [Jon] You had to bring in a lot of truckloads of dirt. 19:06 - [Lloyd] We were blessed 19:08 that there was some areas in the land 19:09 that was kind of like a Creek low-level. 19:12 So we decided to take dirt from there to level the land. 19:17 So we didn't have to bring in outside dirt, 19:19 which was a blessing, saved us a lot of money. 19:21 So we were able to get all our dirt. 19:24 - [Jon] How many truckloads are we talking about? 19:26 - So it was approximately 4,000 truckloads of dirt. 19:29 - 4,000 truckloads of dirt? 19:31 - 4,000 truckloads of dirt to get it leveled up. 19:35 So, God is awesome. 19:36 Cambodia is an expense. 19:38 (laughs) 19:39 So it cost us about $14,000 to get it all leveled out 19:45 to where we can start building. 19:47 - And then of course the rainy season hit. 19:49 - Corona hit. 19:50 - Oh yeah, that too. (laughing) 19:52 - And the rainy season hit 19:53 so we weren't able to start building yet. 19:56 And we had to leave Cambodia 19:58 due to some unforeseen situations. 20:01 So we're trying, by God's grace, to get back out there 20:05 and continue the work. 20:06 - Is it hard to get back? 20:07 - Unfortunately, 20:09 Cambodia has put a lot of restrictions in place 20:11 because of COVID. 20:14 And they're requesting that each individual 20:17 has between two to $6,000 on their person 20:21 to get back into the country now. 20:23 - Wow, so a family of four. 20:24 - Yeah, so a family of four is gonna be difficult. 20:26 So we're looking at about $24,000 20:30 and that doesn't include the plane tickets or the visas, 20:33 just to get back into the country. 20:35 So we're praying and hoping for the Lord to make a way 20:39 that we can get back into the country to continue the work 20:41 that we started out there. 20:42 - So once you get back, 20:44 then you're gonna start working on the land 20:45 and getting the contractor there to start building. 20:49 - Well, the land, we need to start working on the land 20:51 and we need to start working on language. 20:55 As a family, we do not know the language. 20:58 And we realized the first time we went 21:00 what a hindrance that is. 21:02 And the person that we use to translate for us, 21:05 he is no longer with us, 21:06 so it's very important that we learn the language. 21:09 So that's gonna be one of our main focuses 21:10 when we first get back, 21:12 is on working on the language 21:14 and working with the people in our actual town. 21:19 Right now, unfortunately, Cambodia has had a big flood 21:23 and the area we used to live in is underwater. 21:26 So there's gonna be a lot of people 21:28 that are in need right now, 21:29 a lot of people that are gonna need help. 21:32 So we wanna get back to help these people. 21:35 - Okay, so speaking of help, after COVID hit, 21:38 our donors have provided generously for a COVID relief fund 21:44 and you guys were able to utilize and distribute some food 21:46 because of that. - Yeah. 21:48 So there was some money sent for relief 21:49 and we were able to help 36 families in Cambodia. 21:52 We got rice. - Truck full of rice. 21:56 - [Lloyd] Truck full of rice 21:57 and a lot of other provisions, sauces and things for them. 22:03 And it was very beneficial to them, 22:05 they were very happy to have get it. 22:07 A lot of them were struggling. 22:08 Families, parents not working because of COVID. 22:12 They're already a very poor nation. 22:14 You have some families that are just living in a small, 22:17 one-room building. 22:19 And you have a family with five, six children 22:21 in a one-room building. 22:23 They have nothing. - Wow. 22:25 - So it was a blessing 22:27 that we were able to help these families. 22:30 We really gotten a lot out of it. 22:32 Getting to talk to them and meet with a lot of them. 22:33 - Wow. 22:34 So now with the flooding, that's gonna-- 22:36 Another opportunity. - Another opportunity is there 22:38 to help a lot of these people. 22:40 - [Jon] Yeah, we've got some pictures of the recent flooding 22:43 and here we have, 22:44 you can see why they built the houses on stilts, 22:47 but still there's a lot of suffering for a country. 22:49 - As you can see in this picture here, 22:51 that's one house. 22:53 You got a family of maybe five or six 22:54 living in a house like that. 22:56 Those big vats on the side 22:57 is where they hold all their water, 22:59 to bathe and to do everything they need to do. 23:02 - [Jon] And if they have four or five feet of water on that, 23:05 they don't have any place to. - They have nothing. 23:08 - [Jon] Amazing. 23:09 - What's interesting is 23:10 in some of these smaller communities, 23:12 they still have satellite. 23:14 And so, it's important, not only that we get out there, 23:17 but even our media, they can get media 23:21 and they can hear things on TV and stuff. 23:24 I didn't understand because these people are really, 23:28 they don't have food, but they have internet 23:30 and they have satellite. 23:32 So it's amazing that you can see why media 23:34 is also very important, 23:36 that we get our programs on media so they can see these too. 23:39 - Right, cause that's what they're watching these days. 23:41 - [Lloyd] Yeah. - Wow. 23:43 So what was the name of the school 23:44 that you're planning to open? 23:46 - Okay, so the name of the school 23:47 is Cambodia Boarding Academy, Adventist Boarding Academy. 23:51 Yeah, so we're trying to open something 23:53 for grade seven through 12. 23:56 It's gonna be more of a high school. 23:58 Not a lot, but there's a few Adventist schools there, 24:00 but they don't have high school level 24:03 that teaches in the Cambodian language. 24:05 So we're trying to do a school that teaches 24:07 in the Cambodian language. 24:08 And that's why we currently have teachers from Cambodia 24:11 going to school to get their licenses. 24:14 - That's hard, but it's important. 24:17 - Yes it's a struggle. - Very important to have that 24:20 in the local language. 24:21 In some countries, I know that they have, 24:24 especially like a theology degree, 24:26 they have all that in English. 24:28 And so they have to learn English 24:30 and they have to get all their education in English. 24:32 And then it's hard for them to preach 24:34 in their local language 24:36 because all of their thinking, their theological 24:38 and biblical thinking is in English. 24:40 And so to have that in the local language it takes more work 24:45 because we have to bring the curriculum. 24:49 We have to bring the curriculum 24:51 and translate it into the local language. 24:53 So it's more work for us. 24:55 But the creativity then is gonna be in the local language. 24:59 It's gonna be so much more accessible to the local people. 25:02 And especially at the high school level, 25:03 you don't wanna have to teach them all English 25:05 in order for them to learn. 25:07 You want them just to be able to learn directly 25:10 in their own heart language. 25:11 - Yes, part of the issues we're having there, 25:15 when they don't learn English, 25:17 some of the Adventist high schools we do have, 25:20 they teach in English. 25:21 So we have kids that go to Adventist 25:23 at middle elementary school 25:24 that don't go to Adventist high school 25:26 cause they can't speak English. 25:28 And so they end up going to public high schools 25:30 which have schools on Sabbath 25:33 and they end up leaving the church, many of them, 25:35 because they cannot have their Sabbaths off. 25:37 So by having it in their language, 25:40 they can come to this school 25:42 and they can have their sabbaths. 25:44 And then they can be taught about God also 25:45 throughout their school. 25:47 The public schools teach Buddha. 25:50 They teach intro to Buddhism. 25:51 They teach these things of evolution 25:54 and they think all these things that are not biblical, 25:57 they're not true. 25:58 - Right and they're not really taught to reason through, 26:00 they're just taught to memorize these things, so. 26:03 - Yes, that's another challenge 26:05 we're even having with the colleges, 26:07 is they're taught by memorization. 26:09 So if you take a test and you fail the test, 26:13 you have the opportunity to retake the test 26:15 and they give you the exact same test. 26:17 And if you fail it again, you just can retake it. 26:20 Now, they charge you to retake it 26:22 so they're making a little bit of money on this 26:24 and this would be your final exam 26:25 to move from one grade to the next. 26:29 So you just have to memorize the answers 26:31 and to put them in the right place. 26:34 They don't understand what they're learning 26:37 in a lot of times. 26:38 So it's a real struggle out there 26:41 for you to get young people that are willing to truly learn 26:46 and then to teach them so that they can teach. 26:48 - And to think. 26:49 - (laughs) And to think, yes. 26:51 - Wow, that's amazing. 26:52 So when are you guys planning to go back? 26:54 - That's in God's hands (laughs). 26:55 - As soon as the door is open. 26:57 - As soon as the door is open. 26:58 As soon as we get the opportunity to go back. 27:00 If things change with the government there 27:03 and open up the gates so we can get back 27:06 or if there's a donor out there that decides hey, 27:09 we'll donate so y'all can get back, praise the Lord. 27:12 So whenever the doors open, we plan to get back. 27:14 - Praise the lord. 27:16 Well, thank you for sharing with us 27:17 what it's like to be there and what the needs are 27:19 in Cambodia. 27:20 And so, I wanna invite you to be a part, 27:24 to pray for this family that's ready to go back 27:26 and just waiting for open doors. 27:29 And a lot of times, we don't value prayer 27:30 for what it really is. 27:32 But one of my favorite authors 27:33 says that prayer is the key in the hand of faith 27:36 to unlock heaven's resources. 27:39 What a powerful concept that is, 27:41 heaven has a lot of resources. 27:43 And so if you'd like to get in touch with us, 27:45 you can contact us at Jesus for Asia PO box 1221, 27:50 Collegedale, Tennessee, 37315. 27:53 You can call us at 423 413 7321 27:58 or you can go to our website@jesusforasia.org. 28:03 Thank you for joining us on Jesus for Asia Now. 28:07 (soft music) |
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