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Series Code: JFAN
Program Code: JFAN000146S
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00:21 - Hello and welcome to Jesus for Asia Now. 00:24 I'm Natalie Wood and I have a very special guest with me 00:26 in the studio today. 00:28 It's Tim Maddocks and he with his family have been 00:31 in Cambodia working incarnationally for 30 years. 00:36 Hello Tim. So glad you could be here today. 00:38 - Hello Natalie. I'm really blessed to be here. 00:40 - When I introduced you, 00:42 I said you've been working incarnationally in Cambodia 00:45 for 30 years. What does that mean, incarnationally? 00:49 - Incarnationally means we are living like the people 00:52 that live around us. 00:54 That's changed over the last 30 years. 00:57 So when we originally went out, actually in 1996, 01:01 to live on the campus where we live now, 01:03 it was just rice fields 01:05 and the people that lived around us were extremely poor. 01:09 They lived in attached houses mostly, 01:11 got around on bicycles or old motorcycles. 01:15 So that's the way we lived back then. 01:18 But our community has changed over time. 01:20 So now people, more live in brick houses, 01:24 many of them have air conditioning. 01:26 So we've upgraded housing 01:27 as our communities upgraded housing. 01:29 - You still don't have air conditioning though? 01:32 - We have windows. 01:33 - Yeah. So you mentioned moving out to the campus 01:36 where you live now. 01:38 Can you explain what happens on the campus? 01:40 Just give us like an overview of the ministry as a whole. 01:43 - Yeah, sure. 01:44 So it's a 40 acre campus and to begin with, 01:46 God called us to church plant in our local community 01:50 and to develop a training center 01:52 where people could learn to be church planners 01:56 and share the gospel with Cambodians 01:59 who hadn't yet heard about Christ, 02:00 which is the majority of the population. And. 02:05 - What kind of percentage Christian are we talking about? 02:07 - It's about 3% Christian. 02:09 - Really. Okay. 02:10 - We started that work and we got into medical work as well 02:15 and then into school, education of young people 02:19 and then an orphanage and then a media center 02:23 and a butterfly garden and a tropical plant garden center. 02:27 And so that's sort of the progression 02:30 of our work over the years. 02:31 - That's all on that same campus? 02:33 - On the same campus. 02:35 - [Natalie] Wow. 02:36 - And we have another school on a smaller campus 02:37 about 25 miles away. 02:39 It's not an international school 02:41 where you've got all these rich kids coming 02:43 and paying big fees. 02:45 In fact, our fees are very, very low. 02:48 We are charging for a non-ad Adventist, just $200 a year. 02:54 For an Adventist, $170 US a year. 02:57 - Wow. That's not very much. 03:01 - It certainly doesn't make a profit. 03:04 - [Natalie] Okay. 03:05 - Or even break even. 03:06 - Wow. So how many students do you have in this school? 03:08 - So in our main school we have 220 students 03:11 from kindergarten to grade 12. 03:12 - Okay. 03:14 - And in the smaller school we have 18 students 03:16 from grade one to three. 03:18 - Are they all like local to the schools 03:21 or is there a dorm situation or how does that work? 03:24 - So our student body is made up of children 03:27 from the local community and they'll come in 03:30 from about as far as three miles away. 03:33 And then we have orphanage children. 03:36 With children from the orphanage, 03:38 we currently have 38 in the orphanage and staff children. 03:44 But then we have another group of children who come 03:45 from our rural churches 03:47 and most of them in the same area province, 03:49 but from other provinces as well. 03:52 And we have 62 in the dormitory now. 03:56 - Okay. So how does it work financially 03:58 for the dorm students? 04:00 - Well, the dorm students are almost all coming 04:02 from really poor families. 04:04 So we're charging them $170 a year for tuition 04:08 and we provide free lodging and food in the dorm. 04:15 So this is a part of our faith-based ministry. 04:17 The way I look at these children is 04:18 that they're God's children and usually a father pays, 04:22 so he's paying for their fees. 04:24 And so we're just trusting him to provide. 04:27 As far as what does it cost? 04:30 We spend $1.20 per day for food. 04:35 Plus we have the hire for the three cooks. 04:37 And this year we don't have deans that we hired 04:41 because my wife, Wendy and I, we are the deans. 04:45 And the kids live in large rooms with bunk beds and. 04:51 - Okay. 04:52 - So they get to hang out together. 04:55 The dormitory set up, so we have girls dorm on one side 04:58 of the building, boys on the other side, 05:00 a large cafeteria in the middle. 05:03 And so we have combined worships together 05:06 in the mornings and evenings. 05:08 - Okay. 05:10 - And then they eat together in the cafeteria. 05:11 - Okay. So you said $1.20, is that per child, per day? 05:15 - Per child, per day. 05:17 - Okay. 05:18 - Three meals. 05:19 - Wow. That's 40 cents a meal. That's not very much. 05:22 - It's not much. 05:23 But a lot of kids, 05:24 they don't want to go home during holidays 05:27 because they get more to eat and better food at the school 05:31 than they do if they go home. 05:32 The reality is that out in the countryside, 05:34 poverty is a serious thing. 05:36 - [Natalie] Yeah. 05:37 - People are just eking out in existence still. 05:39 - Right. And even that little amount that you're spending 05:42 per day for each one of them 05:44 is giving them such better food. 05:46 - Yeah. It changes the way they look. 05:48 So they come in looking scrawny 05:50 and their hair doesn't look healthy, 05:53 but by the time there's been a year in the school, 05:55 they're on a vegetarian diet 05:57 and they look much more rounded and healthy 05:59 - And they're getting good meals every day. 06:01 - And yeah. 06:02 - Wow. 06:04 I get a lot of joy out of being their dean this year, 06:07 leading them in worships, 06:08 helping them to know Christ better, 06:10 preparing them to be missionaries themselves. 06:13 - Okay. So that's another question. 06:14 Okay, so the purpose of the school isn't just for education? 06:20 - No, the education is the excuse. 06:23 So you know, my family are there as missionaries, 06:27 we want to take the gospel to all Cambodia, 06:29 but we can't do that alone. 06:31 - [Natalie] Right. 06:32 - And because there's only around 4,600 Adventists 06:35 in the country of a population of six and a half million. 06:39 So the best way to raise missionaries is to educate them 06:45 from kindergarten up, 06:46 but educate them with the mindset that God has called them 06:50 to share the gospel. 06:51 And their education is to help them to better to do that. 06:55 - You, in grades 11 and 12, 06:57 it's not just like regular school, 07:00 you're teaching them other things as well. So. 07:03 - Throughout the school we teach a lot of vocational things 07:06 because we believe that there's more to education 07:09 than just reading, writing, and arithmetic. 07:11 - [Natalie] Uh huh. 07:13 - So we have cooking and sewing and computer classes, 07:16 art classes, photography classes, woodwork classes. 07:20 But in year 11 and 12, 07:21 we teach the young people to be teachers 07:25 and many of them will take that up as a career. 07:27 And in year 12 they actually teach for five periods a week 07:31 in the primary school. 07:32 - Oh, okay. 07:34 - So they get that experience and that actually provides us 07:36 with a pool of teachers when they graduate. 07:39 And of our 30 teachers that we have in the main school, 07:45 25 of them are former students. 07:47 - Wow. That's awesome. 07:49 And I know that you've mentioned that some 07:52 of them are recent graduates. 07:54 - Yeah, we have some that graduated just 07:57 in July last year and they're actually teaching 08:00 in the high school this year. 08:01 - Wow. So they're teaching young people 08:04 almost their same ages. 08:05 - Yeah. Some of the people they're teaching 08:07 were fellow students with them the year before. 08:09 So that's quite a challenge for them. 08:12 - [Natalie] Yeah. 08:13 - The reason for that is that we have depended on volunteers 08:17 and when COVID hit our volunteer pool sort of dried up. 08:22 - Yeah. 08:23 - So we've had to depend on our own young people. 08:26 But if there are people out there 08:28 that would like to volunteer, we'd like to hear from them. 08:30 - Yeah. Volunteer teachers, now, what kind of subjects? 08:33 - Teaching English, mathematics, science, geography. 08:39 So they don't have to be qualified teachers, 08:41 they just have to be willing to be qualified 08:43 by the Holy Spirit. 08:44 - Okay. So you said volunteer. 08:46 What does that mean? 08:47 When they come to work there, 08:49 do they get a small stipend? 08:51 What do they receive from you? 08:53 - We are faith-based, 08:54 so it's trusting in God 08:55 and we like our volunteers to do the same. 08:57 - [Natalie] Okay. 08:59 - So we provide them with housing and with work. 09:02 - Okay. 09:03 - And that's it. 09:04 - So they need some other place to get money for food and. 09:08 - They need to cover the airfares, their visa costs, 09:10 their food costs, et cetera. Yeah. 09:13 - Okay. You talked about faith-based 09:16 and then you talked about how much it costs for the school. 09:19 Does it ever come up short? I mean, 09:21 what if the parents can't afford the $170 or the $200, 09:27 then what happens? 09:28 - They usually come crying to me, literally. 09:31 - [Natalie] Oh. 09:32 - Down on their knees begging. 09:34 But there's no actual need for that 09:36 because we've never sent a child home 09:39 because they couldn't pay. 09:41 And typically what happens after one or two years, 09:44 if debts are stacking up, 09:47 we just wipe the debt off figuring that, well, 09:50 God got us through the school year, 09:51 so nevermind, we'll just start afresh the next year. 09:56 But sometimes parents sort of out of embarrassment, 09:59 they'll just pull the kid out without even telling us. 10:02 - [Natalie] Oh. 10:03 - And we find out after they've left 10:05 because they feel ashamed that they can't pay. 10:08 - Oh, that's hard. 10:10 - It is. And sometimes it's because the families 10:15 borrowed money to build a new house or buy a motorbike 10:18 and they can't repay. 10:20 So they need a child in order to have another income. 10:22 - To work. 10:23 - Which really annoys me because you know, 10:25 we'll sponsor a child and they'll be doing really well 10:27 in school and then the parent pulls them out 10:30 and it's like, this kid 10:31 could have had a really great future. 10:33 - Yeah. And made a lot more money in the long run. 10:35 - [Tim] Yes. 10:36 - And worked for God. 10:38 - But short term thinking and. 10:40 - Yeah, that seems to be a trap that happens 10:41 in a lot of ultra poor areas. 10:44 - Yeah. So we look at the school finance, for example, 10:48 last year we took in $17,000 in school fees 10:54 and we spent $88,000 running the school. 10:57 So we're trusting in God to provide. 10:59 - He makes up the difference. 11:00 - Yes. 11:02 - So, okay, faith-based, let's try to break this down. 11:05 Like what does this look like on a daily basis? 11:08 Like okay, so faith-based, 11:11 does this mean that you write a letter to your donors 11:14 and you say, "Hey, we're short on school fees this month." 11:18 Or what does this mean? 11:19 - Well there are obviously many faith-based models, 11:22 but the model that God called us to was to just trust him. 11:28 And so we do write a letter from time to time, 11:31 like once or twice a year, which we call prayer journal. 11:34 And we talk about what God has been doing in our lives. 11:38 We don't go out there soliciting funds, 11:41 but if somebody asks us how can they help, 11:43 then we are happy to give them a list. 11:46 - Right. 11:47 - Of ways that they could choose to help us. 11:48 - [Natalie] Okay. 11:49 - So we're just taking our needs to God. 11:51 Most of the time, we're not talking to him much 11:54 about the money we need. 11:56 We're praising him for what he's given us. 11:58 - Okay. That was going to be my next question. 12:00 Like do you walk around and you see, oh, 12:02 there's a broken pipe over there, Lord, 12:04 can you give me the money, fix the broken pipe? Or. 12:07 - I've tried to develop the mentality 12:10 that this is God's work 12:11 and I'm working beside him and so he knows what is needed 12:17 and he's just left me there to fix it. 12:20 And so if I need to spend money, 12:23 I'll go out and spend it. 12:24 Sometimes I'll even put it on the credit card 12:27 if I don't have it, 12:29 because making sure people are comfortable is more important 12:32 than not using my credit card, like. 12:36 But God has been good and he pays things off. 12:40 But sometimes, often in the last year particularly, 12:44 we've been going day by day. 12:46 And it's like I might need, for example, 12:49 I might need $50 today to buy supplies 12:53 or to buy things to repair something, something like that. 12:57 And God will provide just enough. 12:59 But over a month we're spending at least $16,000 a month 13:04 to keep the orphanage and the school, 13:07 and the media center and Butterfly Paradise 13:09 and Garden Center all running. 13:11 - Wow. Okay. So $50 a day, a hundred dollars, 300, 13:16 whatever you need that day. 13:17 - It's coming in. 13:18 - God's providing. 13:19 - Little by little. Yeah. 13:21 It's a fun way to live. 13:22 - Yeah. Yeah. 13:24 So tell us the story of the studio, the media center, 13:28 how did that come to be? 13:29 - So in 2009, a dream that we'd had for a long time 13:36 that Jon Wood was involved in planting in our minds, 13:40 we began to make that happen by building a studio. 13:46 And now we did something that most people would say 13:48 was very foolish. 13:50 We got a $200 donation for the studio. 13:54 So we started building. 13:56 - Whoa, okay. 13:59 - And 15 months later, we had spent $70,000. 14:02 We finished the building 14:03 and we never asked anybody for money. 14:05 God provided. 14:07 And he honored the faith that we showed by starting 14:10 and he provided. 14:12 And there was a period of time when the building was a shell 14:16 with no roof and grass growing up 14:18 in the main recording area. 14:20 And I was there one night talking to God about it. 14:25 But shortly after that he provided all the money 14:27 to pour the concrete, put the roof on, finish the building. 14:31 But he had a purpose for delaying. 14:33 And it was only later that I discovered the purpose. 14:36 - Is that something you'd like to share, 14:37 his purpose for delaying? 14:39 - Yeah. So we had a group of students coming 14:43 from Australia to help out on the project. 14:46 And amongst those students were kids 14:48 that weren't Seventh-day Adventists, that weren't Christian. 14:51 And God wanted to let them see miracles actually happen. 14:55 - Oh, okay. 14:56 - To convict them. 14:57 And so when those miracles were happening 15:00 while the students were there, 15:01 like somebody came and handed me $10,000 15:03 for the roof while the students were there. 15:05 And so before they left the steel 15:07 for constructing the roof was on site, they saw that, 15:11 and working together to pour the concrete slab 15:15 and God was just using it all. 15:17 So the studio was actually being used for evangelism 15:22 before it even had a roof on it. 15:25 - So that illustrates 15:27 that God doesn't always need the media recordings. 15:30 - That's right. Yeah. 15:31 - Well that's awesome. So speaking of the media recordings, 15:34 what kind of things do you record there? 15:36 - So we record evangelistic videos 15:39 in the Khmer language and we also do health videos 15:43 and cooking shows, vegetarian cooking shows, 15:46 some children's stuff. 15:47 And also we are just getting into music, 15:50 Christian music now. 15:52 - Okay. That's a lot. 15:53 - Yeah. We have eight staff working full-time, 15:56 but they also teach media in the school as well. 16:00 - So they have a couple of jobs under the media banner. 16:04 - Yes. Yes. 16:05 - But it's not all just in the studio. 16:07 - [Tim] Yes. 16:08 - So have you seen any results of the shows, 16:10 of the programs that you have recorded? 16:13 - That's the trouble with media. 16:14 (laughing) 16:15 You're putting it out there. 16:17 We have a 24/7 online television station called SALTCAM TV, 16:23 and then we have a YouTube channel. People are watching. 16:27 But is it having an impact's? 16:30 - That's hard to know. - That's harder to say. 16:32 Although I had one of our Khmer pastors 16:34 come up to me last year 16:36 and thank us for the series on Revelation that we'd done. 16:39 And so he was watching and he had been blessed by it. 16:42 So I'm sure that there are people that are coming to Christ 16:45 through it. 16:46 We just don't have the privilege of knowing that yet. 16:48 - Right. That seems like what happens so much 16:52 with broadcasting, it's like, 16:54 it's literally when the Bible says cast your bread 16:57 upon the waters and it'll come back after many days. 17:00 It's like, many days aren't here yet. 17:03 - I think a lot of it is like our own members are watching. 17:07 - [Natalie] Mm. 17:08 - And so it's. 17:09 - Building up the church. 17:11 - Building up their faith and building up their churches. 17:13 Yeah. And so then they are able to take 17:16 what they are learning and share it on a one-on-one basis. 17:21 So we used to do the training programs 17:24 to prepare people to be missionaries, 17:26 but you could say in a sense now 17:28 that we're still doing that, 17:29 but it's on video and people all over the country 17:32 and even outside the country can access that 17:35 and learn from it. 17:36 - Now let's move to Butterfly Paradise. 17:39 What is Butterfly Paradise first of all, 17:41 and how did it get started? 17:44 - So Butterfly Paradise is a very large butterfly garden, 17:48 which is the den. So you could call it a butterfly aviary. 17:52 And it grew out of a idea that a friend of mine had 17:59 that because we are so close to town, 18:01 because we have lots of butterflies on our 40 acre property, 18:05 that we could set up a butterfly garden for tourists. 18:08 'Cause tourists, they come the same route to look 18:10 at the Angkor Wat Temple. 18:12 And many of them, once they've done the temples, 18:13 it's like what else can I do? 18:15 And me, being a biologist by training 18:19 and having visited butterfly gardens in the past, 18:22 it's like, that's a nice idea, 18:25 but I'm busy running a lot of other things. 18:29 And I took it to God 18:32 and I tried to argue him out of the idea, 18:34 but he eventually won. 18:36 So it's like, well God, if I'm going to do this for you, 18:39 it has to be first class. 18:41 We can't build a little cage out of sticks 18:44 and invite foreign visitors to come in. 18:48 And it has to be so that people 18:50 can learn that God is creator. 18:52 - Hmm. 18:53 - So we spent about $400,000, 18:55 which in American terms, is maybe not very much, 18:57 but in Cambodia that's quite a bit. 18:59 - [Natalie] Right. 19:01 - And we built one of the largest cage butterfly gardens 19:03 in the world. 19:05 And I believe that it is a first class attraction. 19:09 In fact on Google at the moment, we have a 4.4 star rating. 19:12 - Awesome. 19:13 - So, we're very thankful for that. 19:15 - Yeah. Yeah. Well having been there, it's like, 19:18 it's so impressive. 19:20 You know, you see it and it's like, wow, what can God do? 19:23 And, you know, we walk in and we know the story, 19:26 but it's like to just see it in fruition, 19:29 I mean in its full built up, flowered out, 19:36 butterflies flying around, it's just like, wow, 19:38 God did this. 19:39 You know, 'cause how much did you have 19:40 when you started that? 19:42 - We didn't have anything. 19:44 - And you had calculated 19:46 and budgeted how much was this going to cost? 19:47 - It was going to cost 400,000 and we spent 400,000. 19:51 - And you had nothing when you started. 19:53 - Nothing. And so it was another faith venture, 19:56 a little bit like the building of the studio. 19:59 But it's like we were sure God wanted us to do it 20:03 and if he wanted us to do it, 20:04 he was going to provide the resources for it. 20:07 - [Natalie] Right. 20:08 - But we have to walk forward in faith trusting him. 20:10 - [Natalie] Hmm. 20:12 - And after that was last minute provision. 20:14 - Okay. 20:15 - So like the workers were working 20:17 and you had to pay them at the end of the day and. 20:19 - That's right Friday afternoon have to pay them 20:21 for the week's work. Wages are small there. 20:24 So the amounts were pretty small, 20:25 like $500 a week for wages. 20:29 But Friday afternoon, three o'clock, absolutely no money. 20:35 I said, I can't borrow money, 20:37 I can't do anything except pray. 20:40 And so I was having a discussion with God 20:42 about what we're going to do if the money doesn't come in 20:45 by five o'clock. We're going to have to lay off the workers. 20:48 And an hour later someone knocked on the door, 20:50 handed me $500 and they didn't know about the need, 20:54 but God did and he provided. 20:56 - Wow. 20:57 - And a month later the same thing happened again. 20:58 And it was at that point I realized, okay, 21:00 God's got it under control. Just don't worry about it. 21:03 Just go forward and finish it. 21:05 - So you stopped having those Friday afternoon discussions 21:07 with him? 21:08 - Yeah, I just went forward 21:10 trusting it's going to be there 21:12 and we were always able to pay. 21:14 - Wow. Praise the Lord. 21:15 That's really neat to see the progression 21:18 or the step-by-step walk 21:20 'cause so many times we talk about having a faith walk 21:24 and it's some nebulous thing with no definition. 21:27 It's like what does that even look like? 21:29 - If you don't know God, it's frightening. 21:31 - Yeah. 21:32 - Because for us, 21:33 like we're on basically the edge of bankruptcy every month 21:40 and yet we know that God's not going to let us go bankrupt. 21:44 This is his work. 21:46 - Right. 21:47 - And so we just go forward in faith. 21:49 - So Butterfly Paradise, when you first started it, 21:54 the whole process, 21:55 you thought it was going to be a financial burden 21:59 or a blessing? 22:01 - Well, I looked at the figures and said, okay, 22:02 we're having about 4 million visitors 22:04 coming to Siem Reap a year. 22:06 If we can get 100 a day to the butterfly garden, 22:09 we will generate enough income 22:11 to cover our whole ministry needs 22:15 and also expand, we'll help our other ministries. 22:21 Well God wanted to teach me something 22:24 and that is that we don't need to make money 22:28 to keep our ministry going. 22:29 He called us to be faith-based. 22:32 And so we've been running Butterfly Paradise 22:35 for four years now. 22:36 And to my knowledge we haven't yet broken even 22:40 on a single month. 22:42 But God has kept us running. 22:44 And through COVID the country closed down. 22:48 There were no foreign visitors. 22:50 And so for nearly two years we didn't have foreign visitors. 22:55 We lowered our entry price 22:57 so that the local Cambodian people could come in. 23:00 And so we charged $2 a person. 23:04 If it's just one person now, 23:05 electricity costs while they are there, 23:08 running the waterfalls, et cetera, 23:09 are more than the ticket price, but God provided. 23:16 So we just kept it open all through COVID, 23:18 even when we were in a red zone. 23:20 (laughing) 23:21 And God has shown me that Butterfly Paradise is there to 23:28 show that he is an almighty God 23:30 and that he is a creator God. 23:32 - Right. And it's a testimony to his greatness as well. 23:36 - It's also providing employment 23:37 for some of our young people 23:38 so they can have employment 23:40 where they're not required to work on Sabbath. 23:42 And there's a testimony as well 23:44 because they're all young people out of our school 23:47 that are running Butterfly Paradise. 23:49 - [Natalie] Mm. 23:50 - Like I've been away for nearly five weeks now. 23:51 It's my staff that are keeping it running. 23:54 And God is equipping them as well 23:58 so that they can run this tourist industry. 24:01 My manager and is even 19 or 20 years of age, 24:05 only out of school for two years now. 24:08 But God is giving her skills 24:10 and helping all the other staff as well. 24:13 - Okay. So beyond financial, 24:15 what are some of the lessons of faith you've learned 24:18 over the years in this walk that you've been having? 24:23 - I think probably the most valuable one is 24:26 that failure is not an option for God. 24:30 - Hmm. 24:31 - His problem is not his resources, his problem is me. 24:36 - Hmm. 24:37 - Because if I don't trust him, 24:42 there's no point in providing the needs. 24:47 - Mm. 24:48 - So he wants me to work side by side with him 24:52 and just to trust him as the one in charge, 24:55 as the one with the resources and to move forward. 24:58 And if I will go forward in faith, 25:01 then he will provide and he's always done that. 25:05 And that's been one of the things that's been a real joy 25:08 for me, to be at a partnership with God 25:11 and know that he's got my back covered 25:15 because it's his work. 25:17 But it's not just his work, it's our work 25:20 because I'm a child of God and so I'm working 25:25 with him on his kingdom. 25:26 But it's because I'm his child, it's my kingdom as well. 25:29 - Right. 25:30 - And that's been a real joyful thing for me. 25:32 So my challenge has been obviously not to worry. 25:39 If I worry then I'm not honoring God 25:43 because it shows I don't trust him. 25:45 - Hmm. 25:47 - And God has taught me, don't stress, don't worry. 25:50 Years and years of experience now 25:53 says that he'll come through and it in different ways. 25:56 So it might be the weather. 25:58 Sometimes we are doing something 25:59 and we don't need it to rain. 26:02 - Mm hmm. 26:03 - Other times we do need it to rain 26:04 and we can trust God to provide for us 26:06 - [Natalie] It will be the right weather. 26:08 - Yeah. 26:09 - So in all these lessons that God's been teaching you 26:11 over the years, have you ever thought about 26:14 what if you said no? 26:15 - Yeah. 26:17 That's one of the most frightening things to think about 26:19 because I can look at what God has done with our family 26:22 over the last 30 years in Cambodia. 26:25 And I realize that through our personal witness, 26:29 through the school, through our lead training programs, 26:34 God has impacted the church across the whole country. 26:37 - [Natalie] Mm. 26:38 - And if we had said, no God, 26:42 we are not going to do that for you, 26:44 then there would probably be well over a thousand people not 26:49 in the church today. 26:51 And that's, that's a horrifying thought. 26:53 - [Natalie] Yeah. 26:55 - So I'm so thankful that God convicted me to say yes 26:59 and to get involved in this ministry. 27:01 I do have one regret. 27:04 - And what's that? 27:05 - That has taken me so long to really trust God. 27:07 Because if I had trusted him back then, 27:10 like I trust him today, he could have got so much more done. 27:16 - Well thank you Tim for being here today 27:18 and for sharing the stories of what God's doing in Cambodia 27:21 and we're excited for the future. 27:23 - It's a privilege to be here, 27:25 to be able share and hope the testimony is blessed people. 27:28 - Yeah. 27:29 (gentle music) 27:30 I would like to thank you for joining us today 27:31 and if you would like to be a part of this ministry, 27:34 please pray for Tim and Wendy and his family 27:37 and the workers there as they endeavor 27:40 with God to reach the people of Cambodia for eternity. 27:44 If you would like to be a part of this ministry, 27:46 you can contact us at Jesus for Asia PO Box 1221, 27:51 Collegedale, Tennessee, 37315. 27:54 Call us at (423) 413-7321 27:59 or visit our website at Jesus4asia.org. 28:02 May God richly bless you until we see you next time 28:06 on Jesus for Asia Now. 28:07 (bold music) |
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