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Series Code: JFAN
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00:21 - Hello, and welcome to "Jesus for Asia Now." 00:24 I'm Natalie Wood, and my husband Jon is here with me today. 00:27 Hello, love. 00:28 - Hi, darling. 00:29 - How are you today? 00:30 - Doing well, how are you? 00:31 - Good, I'm glad to be here. 00:33 And I'm glad we get to talk some more 00:35 about our Bible workers. 00:36 - Oh, yes, they always inspire me. 00:38 - Which country are we going to today? 00:40 - India. 00:41 - India, okay. 00:42 Now, we've worked with Bible workers in India 00:46 for a little bit, 00:48 or can you fill us in a little? 00:50 - The Bible workers in India was the very first ministry 00:54 that we started out in, 00:55 way back in 2005 when we launched out in faith 00:59 to start what was then Jesus for India. 01:02 - Right. - I was working at a college, 01:04 and we felt a call to go into ministry, 01:06 and the Lord started developing the Bible worker program. 01:10 He led you to a book all about 01:13 the effectiveness and the power 01:14 of the local Bible workers in India. 01:17 - Right. - It just really inspired us. 01:19 And so, that was the very beginning of our ministry. 01:21 In fact, it was called Jesus for India 01:23 for the first couple years. 01:25 - Right, so the local missionary 01:26 is more effective in many ways than a foreign missionary, 01:30 and they know the language. 01:32 They don't have to have transportation, 01:34 travel, air travel, train travel, 01:37 anything to get to where they're working. 01:40 - Yep. - Many times, they grew up 01:42 in the area where they're actually working. 01:44 They don't have to cross languages, none of those things, 01:47 so their job is just to take the Gospel to their own people. 01:51 - And many of these Bible workers are already doing it. 01:54 A little stipend every month allows them to do it full time, 01:57 and to focus on it. 01:58 And in the beginning, 02:00 we had decided to have one project in our ministry. 02:06 And that was the Bible worker in India. 02:09 And the Lord changed that plan after a year or two. 02:13 But at the beginning, even up until now, 02:17 the Bible worker is really the backbone 02:19 and the core ministry of Jesus for Asia. 02:23 Why? 02:24 Because they can reach places that I could never reach. 02:27 I mean, there is a partnership though. 02:29 It's not that the local missionary takes 02:31 the place of the foreign missionary, 02:33 because there's places that there are no local believers. 02:37 There's countries and people groups 02:39 where there is no believer 02:40 that can take the Gospel to their fellow countrymen. 02:43 And so in those cases, you need cross-cultural missionaries. 02:46 Also, in the case of India, 02:48 there's a really great symbiotic relationship 02:51 between a supportive relationship 02:53 between when we go over there, 02:54 and we can help with training, 02:56 and we can bring more Bibles over. 02:59 There's a beautiful relationship that happens 03:02 that it's like not one or the other. 03:04 It's both working together towards a common goal. 03:07 - Right, and it's just, 03:09 the roles are a little bit different in different places. 03:12 - Right, in India, 03:14 there's a large workforce that are strong believers 03:16 and are taking the Gospel, and sharing with their neighbors, 03:19 and would love to do it full time. 03:22 And these guys aren't just, 03:26 well, you'll see today in the videos 03:28 how dedicated they really are. 03:30 And we're inspired very often 03:33 by our local Bible workers in India. 03:37 - Right. 03:39 This first video is a testimony from Steven. 03:42 Steven is our Bible worker that we're talking about today, 03:45 at least that's the name we've given him 03:47 for the purpose of these videos. 03:48 - Okay. 03:49 (upbeat music) 03:52 (children playing) 03:59 (speaking in foreign language) 04:07 - My father's name was Muniappan. 04:10 It's the god of the forest's name. 04:14 My father was so pious, and did all kinds of rituals. 04:19 But my father became so ill, 04:22 because of this witchcraft, 04:26 and died away. 04:28 Since my father died away, 04:30 I hated all these gods. 04:32 Even whenever I look the idols, I used to scold the idols. 04:38 I used to rebuke the idols, "Why? 04:41 My father was so faithful to you. 04:43 But you never gave life to my father." 04:46 (speaking foreign language) 04:50 After my father passed away, 04:51 I came to the conclusion that there is no God. 04:54 If there is any God, 04:56 it would have saved the life of my father. 04:59 But no gods, though we worshiped so many gods, 05:03 no god saved the life of my father. 05:07 I was just roaming around. 05:09 I was doing whatever I liked. 05:12 This time, Brother Devanbu, 05:14 he was a Bible worker, 05:16 came and met me, and told about Jesu.s 05:20 I had the idea, when I had about Jesus, 05:23 that Jesus is also one of the gods. 05:25 But Devanbu explained everything very clearly. 05:30 "Only Jesus is the Lord. 05:32 Other gods are not God." 05:33 And also, he gave me the study on fallen angels. 05:37 He made it very clear other gods are not gods, 05:41 but all are fallen angel, all are followers of Lucifer. 05:45 Then I could understand very clearly, Jesus is the Lord. 05:49 (speaking in foreign language) 05:51 I was taking Bible studies 05:54 for almost three years from Devanbu. 05:56 After that, I started going to church regularly. 06:01 Ezekiel 22:30 says, 06:04 "I am searching for someone 06:06 to stand in between me and the nation." 06:10 So, I thought, 06:11 "Why can't I be that one man 06:14 who can stand in between God and the nation?" 06:18 So, I decided to do the ministry. 06:21 Even before joining JFA, 06:23 I started my ministry along with others. 06:26 After that, the call came from the region director. 06:29 Pastor Sundernayagam called me and told me to JFA. 06:32 First, I hesitated a little bit. 06:34 "How am I going to do this ministry?" 06:36 Somehow I could understand the will God. 06:39 Then I surrendered myself in the hands of the Lord. 06:42 (upbeat music) 06:53 - That's an amazing testimony that his father died 06:57 even though he was worshiping all those gods, 06:59 that he got angry, and decided there was no God. 07:03 And then all the Bible worker did 07:06 was explain to him how that worked, 07:09 no demonstration, no healing, nothing. 07:13 But he believed it, and he became a believer. 07:16 - Yeah, that's powerful 07:18 And how he heard the voice of God asking him 07:22 to be a Bible worker. 07:24 - Yes, and it's so beautiful to see 07:26 how he blends in with the local culture, 07:30 kneeling on the cement floor with bare block walls. 07:36 How many of us would feel comfortable doing that? 07:38 And how long would it take for someone like me 07:40 to learn the language and the culture? 07:43 I still wouldn't be able to blend in, 07:45 because of my skin color. 07:47 And so, my ability to support someone like him 07:52 that can do that, 07:54 that doesn't relieve me of my responsibility 07:56 of bringing people to Christ. 07:58 But it extends my ability. 08:00 - One thing that I was impressed by is 08:02 that he started doing ministry on his own 08:05 before the region director asked him to be a Bible worker. 08:08 It's just really... 08:10 Really, it shows how, 08:11 when Jesus gets into your heart, 08:14 you want to share it with people. 08:16 And so, you start sharing. 08:18 And I think many times we, here in the West, 08:21 get a little bit timid to share, 08:25 and maybe we need to seek God some more like they do, 08:30 and learn how to be a little less timid 08:33 for the sake of the Gospel. 08:35 - But this is the beauty of these Bible workers, 08:37 is that they would share anyway. 08:39 And a lot of them do. 08:42 And this just enables them to share more. 08:45 So, it's really neat to see the dedication. 08:48 Like I said, they inspire us. 08:49 - Yeah, yeah. 08:51 And it's neat too, 08:53 because you see the growth in them as well over time. 08:58 Some Bible workers are new to us. 09:00 But then, others we've worked with for years, 09:03 and we see the growth 09:05 that God has brought in their lives also. 09:07 - Yeah, that's beautiful. 09:10 Yeah, so do you have any more videos? 09:12 - Yeah, we do actually. 09:13 This next one is about a church that they needed. 09:17 - Oh, interesting. 09:20 (upbeat music) 09:32 (speaking in foreign language) 09:36 - Before I go to do ministry, I pray sincerely. 09:40 And the previous night, I kneel down and pray, 09:43 "God, I'm going to this place tomorrow, 09:46 Kindly lead me with your Holy Spirit." 09:49 Wherever I go, first I make friendship with them. 09:53 Being a friend, slowly I will know 09:56 what is their problem. 09:58 Sometimes they may not be very open 10:01 to tell all the problems with me. 10:02 But when I approach them, 10:05 and ask them to tell me their problems, 10:08 slowly they start telling me their problems. 10:11 Then I tell about Jesus. 10:13 I assure them that only Jesus is the solution 10:16 for all your problems. 10:18 In this way, we approach so many people. 10:20 God gives us more souls. 10:22 Now we are able to gather all the soul in one place 10:26 For that purpose, We built one small shed. 10:29 (speaking in foreign language) 10:32 No one gave money from the mission or the organization 10:36 to put up that small shed nearby my house. 10:40 My mother refused to remove the jewel, 10:43 because she is aged. 10:45 At that age, she accepted Christ 10:47 accepted Seventh-day Adventist truth, 10:49 but still she was not willing to remove her jewelry, 10:52 because it was very shameful for her 10:54 when others look at her. 10:56 So, she said, "No." 10:57 But when we planned to build that shed, 11:00 she herself came forward to give her jewelry. 11:03 She removed everything. 11:05 I didn't ask her to give the jewelry. 11:07 But she removed the jewelry, 11:09 and gave it in my hand along with another man 11:13 who donated his laptop's selling amount. 11:17 We collected some amount from the believers themselves, 11:20 and we could make up that shed 11:22 for God's people to watch together. 11:25 (upbeat music) 11:33 - Isn't that amazing? 11:34 - Yeah. - They built 11:35 the shed themselves. 11:36 - Yeah. - And the Bible workers 11:38 are making $90, $100 a month. 11:41 And the other people, as you can see, 11:43 they're not wealthy people. 11:45 - It's not a wealthy area. 11:48 But they look happy to have their church shed. 11:51 - Now what did he mean about, 11:52 it was shameful for his mother to give up her jewelry? 11:55 - So, the jewelry in India, 11:57 especially, like, a necklace is like a wedding ring. 12:01 And so, it would signify the marriage. 12:04 And many times, if they take the jewelry off, 12:06 it seems like they're rejecting the marriage. 12:09 - Or they've never been married, 12:10 and it means that they're-- 12:11 - Right, or they've been shamed in some way. 12:15 And so, for her to take it off herself 12:18 would say something to those looking on 12:21 about her husband, her marriage, 12:24 her family, her commitment, some of those things. 12:27 And so, while we don't wear jewelry, 12:34 it's very hard for them-- - Significant, yeah. 12:36 - Yeah, it's very significant for them. 12:39 - Because it's more than just to look pretty. 12:41 - Right, especially for people 12:42 that know that she has a family. 12:44 - Oh, yeah. 12:46 So, shameful. 12:47 But she did it. 12:49 And you see the smile on her face at the end of that video. 12:51 - Yeah, yeah. - That was beautiful. 12:52 - That church shed was built 12:54 by the donation of a laptop and her jewelry, 12:57 and then some offerings from the local people. 13:00 - Amazing. - And we never 13:01 got a request-- - For a church to be built. 13:04 Yeah. 13:05 They just did it, 13:06 because they really wanted a place to worship God. 13:08 - Right, they did it with what they had. 13:11 And that's also inspiring. 13:13 - Yeah, the thing that amazes me, 13:15 especially, when I visit there, 13:17 you see how he prays kneeling 13:20 on his knees on the cement floor, 13:22 I met a man once that prayed like that all night long. 13:28 He started praying like that at nine o'clock that evening. 13:31 I saw him start to pray. 13:32 The next morning, I met him at seven o'clock, 13:35 and he had prayed all night like that on his knees. 13:38 And so, I was looking in his eyes. 13:40 I expected him to be really tired, 13:42 or sleepy, or groggy, or something. 13:43 And he was fresh and bright 13:45 as if he'd slept all night long. 13:49 And I was amazed. 13:51 But I like to pray in my bed, 13:53 or if I'm kneeling, kneeling on carpet, 13:57 and with most of my weight 13:59 on a chair or something like that. 14:01 But to pray like that, that's intentional. 14:04 And that inspires me to take prayer more seriously. 14:07 Even that young child, he had his eyes closed, 14:12 and he was kneeling on the cement praying, 14:15 or listening to the Bible worker's prayer. 14:17 And the lady, why does she cover her hair like that? 14:21 - Well, it's a sign of respect. 14:23 So, they put this part of their sari over their head. 14:29 - Oh, you're wearing a sari. 14:30 - Yeah, they put this part of the sari 14:31 over their head during prayer 14:33 and sometimes through the whole church service. 14:35 Especially, if they have anything to do up front, 14:38 they cover their hair. 14:39 - I've seen you cover your hair 14:42 with your sari when we pray. 14:44 Why do you do that? 14:46 - Out of respect for God. 14:48 - [Jon] Wow. 14:49 - And a reminder of my friends in India. 14:54 - That's awesome. 14:55 Do we have another video about Steven from India? 14:58 - Yeah, we do. 14:59 I think this one's about one of the people 15:00 that was converted because of his ministry. 15:02 - Oh, awesome. 15:04 (upbeat music) 15:09 (speaking in foreign language) 15:13 - Before 10 years, some of my relatives did some witchcraft. 15:19 Because of that witchcraft, my body got sickness. 15:24 All the doctors said, "Nothing is wrong with your body." 15:27 "Then what shall I do?" 15:29 I went to the soothsayers. 15:30 I went to the witchcraft doctors. 15:33 They were not able to get my health back. 15:37 Day by day, it was getting worse and worse. 15:41 Because of that evil possession, 15:43 I tried to commit suicide. 15:46 I tried to hit myself with big stones. 15:49 I tried to get into the fire. 15:52 These where the activities I did, 15:57 because of the evil spirit possession. 16:00 When I became a little bit all right, 16:03 the evil spirit possessed my husband. 16:07 All of a sudden, he started rolling on the ground, 16:11 making different noises. 16:13 And he tried to commit suicide in the house. 16:17 (upbeat music) 16:24 (speaking in foreign language) 16:28 - Many of my relatives and many of the well-wishers 16:31 told me to go to this temple, that temple, this temple. 16:35 I went to so many temples just for deliverance. 16:39 But nothing could help me. 16:41 I went and consulted 16:43 with so many very famous doctors. 16:47 They all said, "You are normal. 16:49 Don't come and disturb us. 16:51 Everything is all right. 16:53 Go home." 16:54 As I am visiting so many places, and nothing happened, 16:58 I became just flat on my bed. 17:00 Almost, I was on my death bed. 17:04 Then some of the Hindu priests themselves told me, 17:08 "You better go and stay somewhere in a Christian Church, 17:12 at least for two days, 17:13 so that you will be all right. 17:14 Then you will be normal. 17:15 Then you can come to us." 17:17 This is what Hindu priests told me. 17:20 (speaking in foreign language) 17:23 - Because of depression, oppression, 17:27 I became very, very discouraged, 17:31 even to say I don't want to live on this Earth. 17:35 I went to that condition. 17:38 (upbeat music) 17:43 (speaking in foreign language) 17:46 When I came and met Sister Maller, 17:51 another JFA worker, by the name Daniel Sandos, was with me. 17:54 Both of us came and met this lady, Maller. 17:57 When I stepped inside, 18:00 she started rolling on the ground. 18:02 That spirit started speaking to me, 18:04 and making many curses, making many commands, 18:08 making fun of me. 18:09 I was a little bit frightened. 18:11 With prayer in my heart, we started praying 18:14 Then slowly she become calm. 18:18 (speaking in foreign language) 18:20 Actually, that healing was not permanent in her. 18:25 That spirit came again. 18:26 Whenever we pray, it'll go away. 18:28 Then again it would come and disturb her. 18:30 This was going on for many months. 18:32 Finally, we decided we can go for fasting prayer. 18:36 (upbeat music) 18:39 When myself and another pastor, Pastor Alexander, 18:43 were called to attend that fasting prayer, 18:47 at the end of the prayer, 18:48 they asked me to offer a prayer for her. 18:50 As soon as she came and knelt down, I started my prayer. 18:54 She started rolling on the ground. 18:58 Her behavior was very rough and uncontrollable. 19:02 Three or four ladies were there. 19:03 They came and controlled her. 19:05 For more than an hour, we struggled so much with her. 19:09 Then after that, she became very faint. 19:12 Maybe after 10 minutes, 19:14 she opened her eyes, and asked for water. 19:17 From that time onwards, she saw all right. 19:20 (speaking in foreign language) 19:24 - Actually, after coming to church, 19:26 not only did I get the deliverance from the evil spirit, 19:29 but financially, we have become somewhat sound. 19:32 Before that, even though my husband was a good, hard worker, 19:39 nobody would call him for any work. 19:40 After coming to church, I go to take care of the sheep. 19:44 I have some sheep. 19:46 That's also very fine. 19:48 God has blessed us. 19:50 Now we are so happy. 19:52 We want to thank the Lord for that. 19:54 (speaking in foreign language) 19:57 - Starting from that day onwards, 19:59 I have never taken any injection. 20:01 Last month also, I had some swelling in my feet. 20:05 My husband told me to go to a doctor. 20:07 I said, "No, God is the greatest physician 20:10 He will take care of me." 20:12 And that evil spirit now and then comes, 20:15 and tries to give me some disturbance. 20:18 But I look at the Lord. 20:19 The Lord is with me. 20:20 So, I will not go back from my faith. 20:24 Until the end of my life, 20:25 I'll be there in the truth. 20:27 (upbeat music) 20:39 - Wow, that's why we do what we do. 20:43 - Yep. 20:47 - Some people say, 20:49 "You should leave those people alone 20:51 They have their own religion. 20:52 Why do you wanna force your religion on them?" 20:55 That's not what it's about at all. 20:58 The fact is that the Christ that we serve is the real God. 21:01 - Right. - And he's full 21:02 of love and compassion. 21:04 He wants to help people. 21:05 - Right. - And he wants 21:06 to deliver people 21:07 from the chains of darkness and of the evil spirits, 21:11 and it's a blessing. 21:12 - Yeah - It's a blessing to people. 21:14 - Yeah, you could see the shift in her expression 21:18 as she was talking about when she was demon possessed, 21:21 and how then the depression came, 21:23 and her husband became demon possessed. 21:25 And her face, she was nearly in tears, if not crying. 21:31 - And you see her now in the last scenes, 21:33 she's got that smile on her face that's genuine. 21:35 It's like, "What a change." - She's found relief. 21:38 She's found freedom. 21:40 She's been freed from that evil spirit. 21:43 - Yeah, and so sending the Gospel 21:45 through these Bible workers 21:47 isn't just, like, doing church expansion, or doing it, 21:50 because, "Well, we want other peoples 21:52 to believe what we believe." 21:53 It's much more than that. 21:55 It's saving people's lives. 21:58 It's truly bringing light into people's lives, 22:01 and saving them from destruction, 22:03 from discouragement, from despondency, from despair. 22:06 And she was trying to take her life. 22:08 And then her husband was trying to take his life. 22:11 And now they're happy. 22:12 - Yep. 22:14 - Taking the Gospel to the dark places of the Earth 22:16 isn't just about 22:19 doing what we have to do to get Jesus to come. 22:21 - Right - It's relieving pain. 22:24 It's relieving suffering. 22:25 It's bringing happiness. 22:27 It's bringing joy to people that aren't aware of it. 22:30 - Right, right. 22:32 It's being a part of breaking the chains, 22:35 that bondage that people are held in, 22:38 whether it's actual demon possession 22:40 or other types of things, addictions, those kinds of things. 22:43 God's able, Jesus is able to break all of that. 22:46 - Yes. - And that's the blessing 22:49 is that we get a small part 22:51 in enabling workers like Steven to go, 22:54 and to tell people, "This is who can help you." 22:58 - And Steven is sponsored by somebody 23:02 here in the western world 23:04 that allows him to take the Gospel. 23:07 Now we don't have, like, one-on-one, 23:09 this person sponsors this Bible worker. 23:12 Why is that? 23:13 - It's a lot to maintain 23:16 We just don't have the staff 23:17 on either side of the ocean to do that. 23:20 We would love to, 23:22 but we just don't have the kind of staff 23:23 that would allow that. 23:25 - And it would make it a lot more expensive, 23:26 if we hired all that staff. 23:27 - Right, right. 23:28 - So, let's say somebody gives $100 23:30 to Jesus for Asia for a Bible worker, 23:33 that $100 ends up as a Bible worker's salary. 23:38 So, there's no overhead here or in India taken out. 23:42 That is fully their salary. 23:44 - Right, the only thing that's ever taken out is bank fees. 23:47 So, whatever fee it costs to get it here, 23:50 like, if it's an online donation, 23:52 whatever it costs to get it here, 23:54 and then whatever it costs to get the whole, 23:56 the lump sum over there to pay them. 23:58 - Okay. - So, we don't take anything 24:01 out for administrative or anything like that. 24:04 - Yeah, so this is so beautiful, 24:06 because it's this cooperative partnership 24:12 that we were talking about earlier. 24:13 - Right, and Mrs White talks about that actually. 24:14 - Okay. - It's where 24:16 she met a businessman, and what's that story? 24:19 - Oh, yeah, he says 24:20 that he works 24 hours a day for the Lord. 24:23 And she says, "How do you do that?" 24:25 And he says, "Well, I work for the Lord during the day, 24:28 and then at night, I've hired somebody in India 24:32 to work for the Lord for me, 24:34 so I work 24 hours a day." 24:36 (both laughing) 24:39 - Which is a privilege actually. 24:41 - Yes. - To be involved 24:43 in ministry on both sides of the globe. 24:45 - I think, back then the cost of hiring a worker in India 24:48 was much more comparable to your income here in America. 24:55 But now the disparity is so great. 24:58 $100, almost everybody can afford that, at least one. 25:04 - And if they can't afford $100, 25:06 we have many donors that can't, 25:09 and they send $5 or $10, whatever, 25:11 and God adds it all together. 25:13 And then, the Bible workers are sponsored. 25:16 So, it's a privilege and a blessing 25:18 that we get to be a small part of enabling these workers. 25:23 - And even the $5 a month, God sees that, 25:26 and says, like the widow's two mites, 25:29 he looks on the heart, 25:30 and he can take that $5, and blow it up. 25:33 - Right, he's a multiplier. 25:35 - [Jon] Yes. (Natalie laughing) 25:36 So, to get a little grasp or a picture 25:38 of how big the work might be, 25:41 how many towns and villages are there in India? 25:43 - According to Google, 25:45 there's somewhere around almost a million. 25:49 - And how many of those have no access to the Gospel 25:52 according to the sources that we can find? 25:55 - Almost half, 25:56 So, last I checked, which was several years ago, 26:00 about 450,000 towns and villages in India 26:04 have never had the Gospel presented to them 26:06 from any denomination, 26:08 Catholic, Adventist, evangelical, nothing. 26:12 I was able to preach 26:15 in a village that had never heard the name of Jesus before. 26:19 What do you say? 26:21 It's like-- - Where do you start? 26:22 - Yeah, exactly. 26:24 I'd started with what we have in common. 26:26 And you might think, 26:28 "Well, what in the world do we have 26:29 in common with Hinduism?" 26:30 They have a sanctuary. 26:33 They have a sanctuary service. 26:34 They have a holy place, a most holy place. 26:37 They have altar, they have a pool where they wash. 26:41 And then, they have the sprinkling of the blood, 26:44 the Day of Atonement, 26:45 where they actually sacrifice goats or sheep, 26:49 take the blood in, and sprinkle it in the holy place. 26:52 So, that's where you can start. 26:54 And the reason why they do the Day of Atonement is 26:56 to relieve them of sins. 26:59 And so, there's a concept that we have in common. 27:02 And I started with that, 27:03 saying, "Hey, you guys do this ceremony 27:05 to get rid of your sin. 27:06 But the truth is, how can a goat, 27:09 who's not worth as much as you, 27:11 pay the price for your sins? 27:13 You would need somebody that's worth more than you 27:15 to pay the price for your sin. 27:17 And somebody did that." 27:19 And they were just, like, all ears. 27:23 It's amazing 27:25 It's like Paul, he says, 27:26 "I will build on no man's foundation. 27:29 Preach the Gospel where it's never been preached before." 27:31 There's still places like that in the Earth today. 27:33 - Yeah, wow. 27:35 Yeah, and we have over 500 Bible workers just in India. 27:38 - Yes. - And it's amazing 27:40 how many more are needed. 27:42 - We need 10 times more. 27:44 - If you would like to help support Bible workers 27:46 like Steven in India, 27:48 please contact us at Jesus for Asia, 27:51 PO Box 1221, Collegedale, TN 37315. 27:56 Call us at 423-413-7321, 28:01 or visit our website at jesus4asia.org. 28:05 May God richly bless you until we see you next time 28:08 on "Jesus for Asia Now." 28:09 (upbeat music) |
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