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Series Code: JFAN
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00:21 - Hello and welcome to "Jesus for Asia Now". 00:24 I'm Natalie Wood 00:25 and I have a couple special guests with me today. 00:27 They are from Thailand you may have seen them before, 00:30 but usually you see the results of their work. 00:34 Welcome to the show, Jonathan and Hannah, 00:35 we're so glad you're here. 00:37 - Thank you. - Thank you. 00:38 - It's been a while. - Yeah. 00:39 - Since you've been here to have an interview with us. 00:42 In fact, we've never interviewed 00:43 you together on the show because 00:46 last time you were here for an interview, 00:48 you weren't married yet, 00:49 but that was a long time ago. 00:52 - Yeah. 00:54 - So where are you working now? 00:55 Let's start off with that. 00:56 - Well, we live in Thailand, 00:58 in the Central Valley of Thailand 01:00 actually, Nakhon Sawan is the name of the city 01:03 and it's about three and a half 01:04 hours north of Bangkok. 01:05 - Okay. 01:06 So what do you do? 01:07 - We are the foreign correspondence 01:09 for "Jesus for Asia", that's the official title. 01:14 So basically we are the ones 01:16 that go to film different 01:19 projects by workers in India. 01:22 We capture stories and then we 01:24 come home to Thailand and we 01:26 edit them and then they go on this show right here. 01:29 (both giggling) 01:30 - So you spend a lot of time traveling? 01:35 - Well, yes. (Hannah giggling) 01:37 Yeah. - So when you're 01:38 gone from home, 01:39 is it primarily for shooting 01:41 or what else do you do? 01:43 - Well, there's definitely a mix. 01:47 So when new missionaries come 01:49 specifically to Thailand, 01:51 we help them get used to Thailand, 01:54 get settled, figure out how to live 01:56 in a completely new country. 01:58 So that's part of what we do. 02:01 We also, there are times that missionaries need help. 02:04 They need support. 02:06 Maybe it's just taking care 02:07 of someone's kids or helping them 02:09 get where they need to go 02:10 or different things like that. 02:11 We just try and be a help where we can. 02:16 - Okay. 02:16 - So that's part of it too. 02:19 - So how did you end up in Nakhon Sawan, 02:21 in the city where you're living now? 02:24 - Kind of a long story. 02:26 You guys are a big part of that, 02:28 'cause I know John especially 02:29 had been asking people to pray 02:31 for Nakhon Sawan for years. 02:33 Jonathan had been there a couple 02:35 at least once before the film. 02:36 I'd been there a couple times 02:37 just to see it and when people 02:40 were being asked to pray one time 02:41 and we were also at that point 02:43 planning to go to film again 02:45 about the need in that city. 02:47 We hadn't been traveling 02:48 that much because of COVID 02:50 I think that's part of why we thought, oh well 02:53 I think it was the Holy Spirit too, but 02:55 maybe we could live there. 02:56 We don't have to be living in Chiang Mai, 02:57 which is where we were. 02:59 And there's a lot more Christians, 03:00 there's a lot more missionaries, 03:02 a lot of missionaries in the Chiang Mai area. 03:05 And so we're like, well, 03:06 we have to live somewhere 03:07 in Thailand and it could be there 03:09 even if we're not home all the time. 03:11 We could be praying and getting to know people. 03:13 - Okay. 03:14 So you've had a few miracles 03:16 and interesting interactions 03:19 since you've been there. 03:20 Can you share one with us? 03:23 - Yeah, I think one of the more personal ones for me, 03:25 I guess was just we exercise 03:28 in the park in the middle of 03:30 the city, several evenings 03:32 a week when we're home 03:34 and it's not the most convenient, 03:35 it'd be more convenient to just 03:36 go from home and take less time. 03:37 But our point in that is we wanna 03:39 get out there where the people are. 03:40 'Cause otherwise we're 03:41 at home editing and we don't really 03:42 interact with people. 03:44 So we were in the park exercising 03:45 one evening and I was just 03:47 walking actually, but I walked faster than some. 03:49 So this lady starts like jogging 03:51 and keep up with me and was 03:52 just obviously friendly and she said hi. 03:54 And I said hi back. 03:55 And as soon as she realized 03:56 I could speak a little bit of 03:58 Thai, just from the words I said, 04:00 she started asking me questions 04:01 and we got to talk about all 04:03 sorts of things. 04:04 And she introduced us to a friend 04:05 of hers who's Christian, 04:07 she's Buddhist, but before 04:09 I even told her, oh yeah, 04:10 we're Christians too. 04:11 She just wanted to introduce 04:12 us to her friend and then 04:13 invite us to her home that evening. 04:15 Which a lot of time people 04:17 aren't just like, oh yeah, 04:18 come to my house right away. 04:19 Like they kind of wanna get to know you. 04:21 But I don't know if she just, 04:23 she felt comfortable with us, 04:24 invited us in. 04:25 We chatted about stuff 04:27 and there was stuff that came up 04:28 in our conversation that evening 04:30 that I didn't intend to be 04:32 making a statement about anything 04:33 about what we believe or anything. 04:35 But she just picked up the 04:37 difference between how they do 04:39 things and how we do things. 04:40 And she was impressed with it. 04:43 She liked it. 04:44 And I think that was just, 04:45 it was a simple thing, 04:46 but God is using it and continuing to. 04:49 - So you kept in contact even though 04:51 you haven't been home very much? 04:52 - Yeah, we actually haven't seen her 04:54 a whole lot in the last year, 04:56 but we got together with her again 04:58 recently and she's full of questions 05:00 and because of that we 05:02 get to talk about things that most people don't, 05:04 we don't usually get to talk about. 05:07 And there's other stuff she just 05:08 asked me straight up like, 05:09 do you guys fight in Coral at home? 05:11 And I was like, not really. 05:13 And she's like, 05:14 oh well Thai people do. 05:15 And I'm like, well, okay, 05:15 Americans do too. 05:16 It's not 'cause you're Thai, 05:18 but I just shared with her. 05:20 - [Natalie] Yeah. - It's because God helps us. 05:21 It's because of his working in our hearts 05:23 that's what makes our home a peaceful home. 05:26 And so she was just trying 05:27 to understand that more like, 05:28 what do you mean by praying 05:29 and asking God for help? 05:31 And you could just tell she 05:32 was thinking about it and yeah, 05:34 we don't know what she's thinking, 05:36 continuing to think, but she asked questions 05:38 and it's, yeah, it's exciting to see. 05:41 - It's the opportunity. 05:42 - [Hannah] Yeah. 05:43 - Yeah. 05:44 So when you're filming and editing 05:47 all of that part 05:48 of your work that you're doing, 05:50 how much more time do you spend? 05:52 Is it about equal traveling 05:54 and filming versus editing? 05:57 Which one takes more time? 06:00 - Usually the editing takes more time. 06:04 So-- - It gets more 06:04 interrupted too. 06:05 - Yeah, yeah. 06:07 It's easier to step away from 06:08 it and do other things. 06:10 But like for instance, 06:11 when we go to India, last year we went 06:14 to India for-- - A month. 06:16 - About four weeks. 06:17 And some of the places we shot 06:22 or the stories we captured, 06:23 we only did it in like three or four hours. 06:25 - Mm. 06:26 - Sometimes even less. 06:28 But that takes a lot longer 06:32 to edit and it becomes three, 06:36 three minute videos or four minute videos. 06:38 So we captured it in a very 06:40 short amount of time just 06:42 because we were trying to get 06:43 as many stories as we could. 06:46 But then, yeah, 06:47 the editing definitely takes more time. 06:49 - Because it's not just 06:50 like whatever interview you're 06:52 doing or whoever's story you're hearing, 06:54 it's also what does it look like where they are, 06:58 what does their family look like? 07:00 All that behind the scenes kind 07:02 of what we call in the video world B-roll. 07:04 - [Jonathan] Right. 07:06 - All that you have to weave into there. 07:06 So the story is more complete 07:08 - [Jonathan] Yeah and-- - In the segment videos. 07:10 - Yeah and like in India the interviews, 07:16 we don't understand their language 07:17 so it's translated, 07:18 but then the translator often 07:19 has an accent that's difficult 07:21 for some people to understand. 07:22 So then there's subtitles. 07:23 But figuring out how to make all 07:26 of that mesh together, 07:28 it takes some work. 07:29 - [Natalie] Yeah. 07:30 - But that's okay. 07:31 - Time consuming. 07:32 So do you find this inspiring, 07:34 the video work that you do? 07:35 - Yes, and I think the reason is, 07:37 is because we get to see firsthand 07:39 the people that God is changing. 07:41 Whether it be the missionaries 07:42 themselves or the Bible 07:44 workers and the people 07:46 that they're reaching, being able 07:47 to hear the stories but not just 07:49 hear them actually be there 07:50 and experience them and meet the people. 07:52 It's really, really inspiring. 07:55 - Hmm. 07:56 So how did you get into video, Jonathan? 07:58 (Jonathan giggling) 08:01 - I started with photography actually when I was, 08:04 well I was 10 when I got my first camera, 08:07 but I really got into it 08:08 in my mid-teens and then my older 08:10 brother actually was getting into video 08:14 and that sort of, interested me. 08:17 - Drew you in. - Yeah. 08:19 And then, yeah, 08:20 it just kind of grew from there 08:22 and it's not like I went to school. 08:24 I don't have some big degree in filming, 08:27 but I learn on the job and it, I like that better. 08:30 Like it sticks better. 08:31 - Yeah, definitely. 08:32 So then Hannah, how did you become interested? 08:36 Because it's not just Jonathan doing this work, 08:38 you're doing it together side-by-side together. 08:40 So how did you get interested in doing media video work? 08:45 - Yeah, it's similar in some ways in that I had, 08:48 my grandpa on my dad's side, 08:50 he has done video stuff quite a bit. 08:52 And then as I was growing up 08:54 my family was involved with 08:55 some video stuff, more like 08:57 at a camp meeting or something. 08:59 My dad kind of let out in some 09:00 of that and I was always drawn to that. 09:03 And when I was in my earlier teens 09:05 to mid-teens, I was like, 09:07 I'm gonna go to college 09:09 and get a degree in media of some sort. 09:11 And then my family got invited 09:13 to Thailand and I kind of put 09:15 that aside and didn't really 09:16 think much of it anymore. 09:18 Got involved in teaching, 09:19 I was teaching for the good part of six years. 09:22 And it wasn't until I realized 09:26 that maybe we would actually 09:27 get together someday 09:29 'cause there had been a casual interest 09:30 for a while before we got together. 09:31 But I was like, wow, 09:34 that's like what I dreamed of doing 09:37 for most of my growing up years. 09:39 And maybe I could actually get to do that. 09:41 I didn't even imagine that I would, 09:42 but it was just God's hand 09:44 that I first got the passion for 09:46 missions and then got to go back 09:48 into the video and then yeah, 09:50 Jonathan's been very patient with me 09:52 'cause I've had a lot of 09:53 catching up to do. 09:54 I still do, but I've enjoyed it. 09:56 - But that's okay. 09:57 Right. 09:58 Because the work is going forward 10:00 and God's enabling you to do the 10:02 work that he's given you to do. 10:04 So, okay. 10:05 So you have to share a little 10:07 of the story of how the two of 10:08 you got together. 10:09 Right. 10:10 (all laughing) 10:11 It's only fair. 10:12 Right? 10:14 - Well we'd met at summer camp 10:17 when we were like 15 just, 10:18 but it was like I knew who she was, 10:20 she knew who I was. 10:21 We didn't really interact a lot. 10:23 - We were both kind of quiet and shy. 10:24 - Yeah. 10:26 And then we were both counselors 10:28 at the same camp, 10:29 two years later. - Two years later. 10:32 - And that was when for me, I was like, 10:35 I'm gonna keep an eye on this girl. 10:39 - He figured out right away 10:40 that I kind of shared that mutual interest. 10:42 - Yeah. 10:44 So I waited for a long time. 10:46 And then after I moved to Thailand and had 10:49 became the foreign correspondent for "Jesus for Asia", 10:52 I realized, you know what, 10:53 I think it's time I need 10:54 to start praying about this. 10:56 So I prayed for quite a while 10:59 and then we started our 11:00 relationship in early 2017. 11:05 And then a day less than a year later 11:08 we got engaged and then got married in 2018. 11:12 - Yeah. 11:13 - Wow. 11:13 There's people that go 11:14 to the foreign field as a single 11:16 person and it's like 11:20 where would you ever meet? 11:21 Or, 11:23 how would you ever get together with someone? 11:24 But God brought you two together 11:27 with a shared passion for 11:29 reaching the lost as well 11:30 as a shared interest in video 11:32 and the skills and talents 11:34 to go that direction 11:36 and to use it in his work. 11:37 And that's really neat to see 11:39 and I think so many times it's like 11:43 we don't use our skills 11:45 and talents for God or we put them 11:49 on the back burner 11:50 and we think we'll never use them for 11:51 God, but then he brings us back around 11:54 and we can, so do you see a 11:57 need for more people that do kind 12:00 of what you do over there? 12:01 As far as the video? 12:04 - Yeah. 12:05 - Could you use some help? 12:06 (all laughing) 12:07 - So, I mean, let's just take India for instance. 12:11 "Jesus for Asia" sponsors 12:12 so many Bible workers in India 12:14 and most of them we haven't even gone to visit, 12:18 with a video camera. 12:19 So there's untold stories that are there. 12:23 And this is when a missionary goes 12:27 from America to Asia or anywhere, 12:31 they already have their friends, their family, 12:34 their connections here in this country. 12:36 But the bible workers, they don't have that. 12:38 They have no connection, 12:40 they have no network of people 12:42 here that know them 12:44 and believe what they're doing 12:45 and wanna support them. 12:47 Some of the bible workers, 12:48 they're the only Christian in their family 12:49 or their immediate family, 12:50 that's the only Christians. 12:52 So they don't have that sort of support. 12:54 So for us to go in and be able 12:55 to interview them and get their story 12:58 and see how God is using them, 13:00 that's a really important part. 13:02 - Yeah. 13:03 - And I've told people many times we 13:05 could go to India and do 13:06 absolutely nothing but film 13:08 for a year or two or three, 13:11 but then editing. 13:13 - Yeah. - [Jonathan] You know. 13:14 - That has to happen also. 13:16 - Yeah. 13:17 Shooting is no good without the editing. 13:18 - [Natalie] Right. 13:19 - It's pointless. 13:21 So yeah, there's absolutely space for more 13:23 videographers in God's work, 13:26 but I think the foundational qualification, 13:30 shall we say, 13:32 is just believing in the mission 13:34 and surrendering to God. 13:35 Like we're videographers, 13:37 we're not amazing videographers. 13:40 Our work isn't just amazing 13:43 like some other people, 13:44 like I know people, it's like, oh, 13:45 they're way more talented than me. 13:46 They have way better experience and whatnot. 13:50 But the reason we're here doing 13:51 what we're doing is because 13:52 we believe in the mission and God is using us. 13:54 - Yeah. 13:56 And that's-- - And God blesses. 13:56 - Yeah. 13:57 God makes up the difference. 13:59 - Right. - [Jonathan] You know. 14:00 - Right. 14:01 Well we feel the same with shooting 14:03 the show even it's like many 14:04 times we're tired and it's like 14:09 we struggle to get the words out 14:11 and to tell the story in a 14:13 way that makes sense even sometimes. 14:15 And we get done and we're like, 14:17 God's really gonna have to work on this show. 14:20 And then people call us 14:21 and it's such a blessing because our 14:23 viewers are like, 14:24 I was blessed by that story 14:26 that you shared and we felt like 14:27 we stumbled all over the story, 14:29 but they understood the story and it's like, 14:31 that's only because of the grace of God. 14:33 Yeah. 14:34 And so it's a blessing to be able 14:36 to be in his work 14:39 and doing what's really important 14:43 in this world for the sake 14:44 of the lost and yet still feels small. 14:48 - Yeah. 14:49 - And know that it's only because of him. 14:51 - [Jonathan] Yeah. 14:52 - That anything good comes out of it. 14:53 - Yeah, imagine if we were trying 14:54 to do this in our own strength. 14:55 - [Natalie] Oh. 14:56 - We would've given up a long time ago. 14:58 - Given up a long time ago. 14:59 Yeah. - [Natalie] Yeah. 15:00 But God is the one, it's his work. 15:02 He's the one that empowers, it's all him. 15:04 - Yeah. 15:05 - [Jonathan] That's all him. 15:07 - So if someone's interested in video 15:08 and working for God like you are, 15:11 where would you suggest that they start? 15:13 - Well, if someone doesn't already 15:16 have experience with video, 15:18 the first step is to practice, to. 15:19 - Learn how to. - Practice 15:22 is the most basic thing you can do. 15:23 Even if you just have a phone. 15:25 Learn how to tell a story, learn that 15:27 the framework and the different ways of how 15:33 to tell a compelling story. 15:35 Because if you can tell a story, 15:36 even if you don't know how 15:37 to film that good, the story, 15:40 is what gives the impact. - Comes through, right. 15:42 - But of course practice the technical side 15:44 get to know photography, videography 15:47 and how to use a camera to tell the story. 15:51 But those are all sort of side things 15:55 to get connected with God 15:58 and stay connected because he's 15:59 the one that is our leader. 16:03 Getting a job in the film industry, 16:07 you can make a lot of money. 16:09 You can live a horrible life working all the time. 16:14 I mean, some people would think 16:15 that wasn't a horrible life, 16:16 but from my perspective, 16:18 I wouldn't wanna do that. 16:21 But working for God, 16:25 making videos for God's work for his glory, 16:28 the reward isn't here. 16:30 The reward is in heaven 16:33 and that's what's gonna last forever. 16:34 It's not here. 16:35 - [Natalie] Yeah. 16:36 - I can make all the money I want 16:38 and then I'm gonna die 16:39 and what's gonna happen to the money, 16:40 what good did it do me? 16:41 - Right. 16:43 - It's the perspective of this is the big picture, 16:45 it's God's work. 16:47 Let's invest in what matters. 16:49 - Yeah. 16:50 Invest in what matters, 16:55 we were told a story recently, 16:56 someone had met some very wealthy 16:58 people and they were older 16:59 and looking toward not having a future very soon. 17:04 And they actually told him 17:06 that it would be easier to just 17:08 die and let the government deal 17:10 with the money in probate 17:11 courts, whatever, 17:12 than to have to figure out who 17:13 to give it away to or than 17:14 to give it away. 17:16 It's like, it's easier to die holding 17:18 onto it than to give it away. 17:21 And that's really heartbreaking 17:24 because we need to hold to God. 17:26 - Yeah. 17:27 - Do you know what's important. 17:29 Let go before it's too late. 17:31 - [Jonathan] Yeah. 17:31 - And so I just, yeah, 17:33 I appreciate you bringing that point out. 17:35 Now on the little bit, on the lighter side, 17:38 you guys have a YouTube channel, right? 17:41 - Yes, we do. 17:42 - So what is the point of your YouTube channel? 17:44 - So we started the channel 17:47 like the same year we got married. 17:49 And our thinking, the original goal was 17:51 we make videos for this show, right? 17:54 For "Jesus for Asia Now" and other 17:56 parts of "Jesus for Asia". 17:58 But we wanted to really have 18:01 a YouTube channel that would 18:02 focus more on young people, 18:05 encouraging them to consider missions 18:07 as a career option or at least student missions. 18:11 Get the experience, be in the mission field 18:14 serve God somehow, some way. 18:17 And I don't again, 18:19 with media it's really hard 18:21 to know what the seeds that 18:22 you're planting are actually doing. 18:26 I often thought 18:27 if we can get one person as a result 18:32 of our YouTube channel 18:34 to go as a missionary, like it would be worth it. 18:37 And we've put hundreds of hours 18:38 into that YouTube channel 18:40 and just sort of to tell you what it's about, 18:43 basically a lot of it is just our life. 18:47 So what is it like for us living in the mission field? 18:50 What are we learning in the mission field? 18:54 What do you need to be aware 18:55 of when you go to the mission field? 18:56 Things like that. 18:57 - Challenges you might encounter. 18:59 - Yeah. 19:00 And we've shared some of those. 19:01 - Vehicles that don't start 19:03 and you get stuck somewhere 19:04 and you're going somewhere 19:06 and suddenly it's pouring down rain 19:07 and you're on a motorbike and. 19:09 - Yeah, yeah. 19:10 All sorts of things that happen in the mission field. 19:14 So the amazing thing is we were really, 19:18 really consistent with putting 19:20 out a video every week 19:21 for like two or three years I think. 19:23 And we've dropped off from 19:25 that 'cause we've gotten really busy 19:26 since COVID sort of the restrictions went away, 19:30 but there's actually a family in Thailand now that's 19:36 not because of "Mission Viewfinder", 19:38 that's the name of the channel, 19:40 but it was a significant impact 19:42 on them and they're actually 19:43 planning to come and work 19:44 with us in Nakhon Sawan 19:46 which is mind blowing. 19:47 - Yeah, that was my next question was like, 19:49 are you gonna get help for 19:50 the other part of the work that 19:52 you're doing in Thailand? 19:53 - [Jonathan] Yeah. 19:54 - Because it's not just the video 19:55 work that you're doing. 19:56 You're also like we've talked before, 19:59 trying to slowly reach out 20:01 to the people of Nakhon Sawan. 20:03 - Yeah. 20:05 So this family is a precious family 20:07 and they're right now learning Thai. 20:10 - Okay. 20:11 - And then I'm not sure when 20:12 hopefully next year they'll come 20:14 and join us in Nakhon Sawan 20:16 and we never thought we're the ones 20:18 to reach Nakhon Sawan 20:19 - Right. 20:21 - [Jonathan] God is the one to reach Nakhon Sawan. 20:21 - Right. 20:23 - And we're just thankful that God is bringing in, 20:24 the pieces that are needed there 20:28 to reach the hearts of the people there. 20:31 - Right. 20:32 So did you go to Nakhon Sawan 20:35 with the idea that you're 20:36 gonna do some sort of particular 20:40 ministry work there or like 20:42 you're gonna try to do an English language school 20:46 or church plant? 20:48 Or did you go with that idea 20:50 or what idea did you go with when you went to. 20:52 - Does it sound like we have time, oh sorry. 20:55 (all laughing) 20:57 - Well time right. 20:58 - Yeah. 21:00 So I mean we went there with the thought, 21:02 we want there to be a church plant here. 21:03 We want there to be a group of believers 21:05 that are following God believe 21:07 the three angels messages. 21:09 But our approach has been we're there 21:13 to live there so that 21:15 God can work through us 21:16 and we're there so that we can pray 21:18 for people and pray for the city. 21:21 And we do that regularly. 21:24 I would love it if we could spend 21:25 four times as much time praying as we do, 21:30 but we haven't gotten there yet. 21:31 But really-- 21:32 - Well you have to kind of be 21:33 home to pray in that city. 21:35 - Yeah. 21:36 - Also, I mean, you can pray for it from a distance. 21:37 - [Jonathan] Yeah. 21:38 - Like we do from here. 21:39 - Right. 21:40 - But it is nice when you can 21:43 walk there and pray there. 21:44 I remember that zoom call that you talked about, 21:46 where you guys were actually 21:48 walking through the park as we 21:50 were all joined on Zoom and we were all praying for the 21:54 people that we saw and for 21:56 it's really important to think 22:00 about what their lives are 22:02 like and to see them doing 22:04 some of these prayer walks. 22:05 We've seen people 22:06 doing their laundry out on the side of the road 22:08 or worshiping the monk when he's there 22:12 and different things like that. 22:13 It's so important and it makes 22:15 it so much more real. 22:16 It's not just some city 22:17 in Thailand where you guys live. 22:19 It's this person that we've seen, 22:22 this person jogging, 22:23 this person riding their bicycle. 22:26 It makes it a lot more real. 22:28 - Yeah. 22:29 And when we go into exercise in the city, 22:33 we usually go like four times 22:34 a week in the evening and when 22:38 I first started out, I was just praying 22:40 for people as I passed them 22:42 and sometimes I get distracted 22:43 but I try and stay focused on that. 22:45 And then it started to get old 22:48 and I realized, 22:49 you know what this needs a refresher or something. 22:53 And I read something 22:54 in the spirit of prophecy that said that 22:57 or it impressed in my mind 23:00 so strongly that when I'm in the 23:03 park praying for people, 23:05 it's not just me praying for people, 23:07 it's me praying for people 23:09 and angels going to help those 23:10 people to answer my prayers. 23:13 And so I pray for that Lord, that person, 23:16 they look discouraged. 23:18 I don't know what's going on in their life, 23:19 but I pray that you will 23:21 be the answer to their hearts cry 23:23 and that you will help them 23:25 in their greatest difficulty 23:28 in a way that they will recognize it's you. 23:31 It's not chance, 23:32 it's not happenstance, 23:34 it's something did this and another 23:37 experience I wanna share 23:38 'cause it's really amazing. 23:41 We were reading a book, Hannah was reading a book, 23:43 actually I'm reading it now, 23:44 about prayer walking and how 23:47 they suggested walking on the streets 23:50 and praying together out loud. 23:52 And we hadn't done that before. 23:54 So we're like, okay, let's try this. 23:57 So one Sabbath morning we went to 24:02 a part of the city that has all 24:04 the government buildings or a lot of them. 24:07 So like 'cause the city 24:09 is the capital of the province. 24:11 So it's not just the city buildings, 24:13 it's the provincial buildings. 24:14 Like the governor lives there, 24:15 immigration is there, 24:17 the city hall, like all of government buildings. 24:20 So we went there and we walked this like, 24:23 it was like five kilometers 24:24 I think loop around this area of the city. 24:28 And we just prayed out loud for the people, 24:29 we prayed for the people 24:30 that work in the building. 24:31 Like we prayed over this 24:34 and we got back to where we had parked. 24:37 And I had this distinct feeling 24:40 of satisfaction and just fulfillment. 24:43 Like I hadn't felt in quite a while. 24:47 And as I was thinking about that, 24:48 why am I what is it that's making me feel this way? 24:52 I realized-- - [Natalie] Satisfied. 24:54 - It's because Satan's kingdom 24:57 is beginning to crumble. 24:59 Like what we just did, 25:01 even though we just walked around 25:02 and said some words. 25:03 Right. 25:04 But it's much more than that. 25:05 - It's not just words. 25:06 Yeah. 25:07 - Because there's a whole thing 25:08 in the great controversy and I 25:09 don't know what that looked like 25:10 behind the scenes of what we don't see, 25:12 but stuff was happening and stuff 25:14 is happening as a result of that. 25:16 - Yeah. 25:17 - So keeping in mind that the big 25:18 picture of what we don't see 25:21 it's maybe we're just imagining 25:23 what it might exactly look like, 25:24 but stuff is happening behind 25:25 the scenes that we don't get to see. 25:27 So we're in this stage of reaching 25:29 Nakhon Sawan where most 25:31 of what we're doing, 25:32 we don't see results, 25:33 we don't see stuff, 25:34 but God is doing stuff. 25:35 We know that. 25:36 - Yeah. 25:37 - But that's the thing like 25:38 you know Satan didn't want us to do 25:40 that because that morning for no 25:43 really apparent reason, 25:44 right before we went into town, 25:46 I started to just not feel good and I was like, 25:48 I don't know if I can do this. 25:49 Like it was warm, 25:50 fairly warm weather already. 25:52 And I say warm, I mean hot. 25:54 And so I was just like, I don't know, 25:56 but I just felt impressed like, 25:57 we need to go anyway. 25:58 So I don't think I even said anything. 26:00 We just went and even as we were 26:02 having prayer by the river 26:04 before we started walking, 26:06 I was just like leaning on the railing. 26:08 I was just like, I don't know, 26:09 I don't feel good, 26:10 but I don't know any good reason for this. 26:12 Like this isn't normal. 26:13 And by the time we got back I was fine. 26:16 And that isn't the first time 26:17 that something like that has 26:18 happened to us where one 26:19 or both of us just starts not 26:20 feeling good and then by the 26:22 time we're done with what we 26:23 needed to do, we feel fine. 26:25 It's like that wasn't just an ordinary sickness, 26:27 that was the devil trying to keep it from happening. 26:29 - Yeah. 26:30 That's happened before we go 26:31 on a trip in the middle of a 26:32 trip before we're gonna shoot a story like yeah. 26:35 - [Hannah] Yeah. 26:37 - Satan doesn't like what we're doing 26:38 and that's a good feeling. 26:38 (all laughing) 26:40 - Now you mentioned that you 26:41 did this on a Sabbath morning. 26:43 Why didn't you go to church 26:44 that day, to the Nice Adventist 26:46 church in your city? 26:47 - Well, there isn't one. 26:49 - Ah. 26:50 - That's why we moved there. 26:51 - [Natalie] Right. 26:52 - There's no church there. 26:54 The closest church to us is about an hour away. 26:56 And it's a English church. 26:58 - There's no-- - With Filipinos, 27:00 there's no Thai people there. 27:02 And our burden is to reach the Thai's. 27:05 So we want to see 27:06 a church group in Nakhon Sawan that's worshiping 27:11 in Thai with Thai people there. 27:14 Learning about God. 27:15 - [Natalie] Yeah. 27:16 - Learning to follow God. 27:17 - Well, on that note, 27:19 I wanna thank you both for being here 27:20 and sharing your stories with us and we'll look 27:24 forward to seeing you on 27:25 camera at different times, (Natalie laughing) 27:29 but we also look forward 27:30 to the stories that you get 27:31 to bring back to us to share with our viewers. 27:35 - Thank you for the opportunity to share. 27:36 - Yes. 27:37 - And I wanna thank you for joining 27:38 us today and if you would 27:40 like to be involved in the ministry 27:42 that Jonathan and Hannah are doing, 27:44 or any of the ministries 27:45 that we have talked about on the show today, 27:47 please contact us at Jesus for Asia PO Box 1211 27:52 Collegedale, Tennessee, 37315. 27:56 Call us at (423) 413-7321 or visit our 28:01 website at Jesus4asia.org. 28:04 May God richly bless you until 28:05 we see you next time on "Jesus for Asia Now". 28:08 (gentle music) |
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