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00:01 Hello, I'm Mike Browning.
00:02 Welcome to Let God Speak. 00:04 Today, we'll be studying Daniel Chapter 11. 00:06 This chapter records a very challenging prophecy 00:09 with a lot of detail. 00:11 Today, we'll highlight the main points 00:13 and put this prophecy into perspective for you. 00:16 So open your Bibles with us to Daniel Chapter 11. 00:45 On our panel today, 00:46 we have David Currie and Colin Hein and, gentlemen, 00:48 we are grateful that 00:50 you came to share with us today. 00:51 Before we open the Scripture, 00:53 however, let us join together in prayer. 00:56 Father in heaven, 00:58 today as we opened the Scripture 00:59 and study its message, 01:01 now Your Holy Spirit direct and guide us please, 01:04 we pray in Jesus' name. 01:06 Amen. Amen. 01:08 Now in our past programs, folks, we've discovered 01:11 an important principle 01:13 when we study the prophetic portions 01:15 of the Bible like Daniel 01:16 and Revelation and, Colin, we've talked about this. 01:19 It's a simple principle of repetition 01:21 and enlargement. 01:22 You look at Daniel Chapter 2, you get some information, 01:24 Daniel Chapter 7, you get more information, 01:27 and Daniel 8 even more and so on and 11 have signs 01:30 that's repeat and enlarge. 01:31 Okay, so it's the same run of history, basically, 01:34 but with extra information put in and that's very good. 01:38 Let's look at some examples of that 01:40 'cause there are plenty of examples in Daniel, 01:42 a lot of this... 01:43 Well, look, speaking of this little horn power 01:45 or this Antichrist power in Daniel 7:25. 01:49 You get a few verses here, maybe four or five verses 01:51 that speak about this little horn 01:54 or Antichrist power. 01:55 Yeah. 01:56 I got in Daniel 8, 01:58 you've got about eight references 01:59 or eight verses 02:00 that deal with the same thing, particularly verses 24 and 25. 02:03 Which is interesting, isn't it? 02:05 So again, you've got more information this time. 02:07 And then when we come to Daniel 11, 02:09 which is the chapters perhaps we're looking at today, 02:13 which chapter incidentally continues into Chapter 12, 02:15 although we're only dealing with Chapter 11 today, 02:18 but there you've got some 20 odd verses 02:20 dealing with the Antichrist power. 02:22 So, in every chapter, there's just more information, 02:25 and it's definitely enlarged on. 02:26 So thank you for that. 02:28 There are other consistent principles 02:31 that help us to understand the Book of Daniel, David, too. 02:34 Yes, his prophecy 02:37 seems to start with a timescale. 02:39 For instance, this one starts 02:40 with the Medo-Persian Empire coming in, 02:44 and it ends with the destruction 02:46 of the Antichrist. 02:47 So the same principle applies 02:49 to several of these chapters of Daniel. 02:51 And it's just amazing how Daniel is so consistent. 02:55 And he starts and each of those prophecy 02:57 starts with the time in which Daniel was living. 03:01 And go through to the end of time. 03:02 It is interesting. 03:04 So they all do that, which is really helpful. 03:06 Well, let's begin our study of Daniel 11, people. 03:10 The Angel Gabriel, who speaks with Daniel in 03:13 and that's recorded in Chapter 10, 03:15 now continues again in Daniel 11:2 and 3. 03:19 And I'd like to read 11:2 and 3, 03:21 if you'd like to join us in your Bibles, 03:24 Daniel 11:2 and 3, verse 1 simply says, 03:27 "It was in the first year of Darius the Mede," 03:30 Medes and the Persians 03:31 had conquered Babylon by this time, 03:33 and Daniel had carried over into the new administration. 03:36 And verse 2 says, 03:38 "Now I will tell you the truth: Behold, 03:40 three more kings will arise in Persia," 03:43 this is Daniel in vision, 03:44 "the fourth shall be far richer than them all, 03:48 by his strength through his riches, 03:49 he shall stir up all against the realm of Greece. 03:53 Then a mighty king shall arise 03:54 who shall rule with great dominion, 03:57 and do according to His will." 03:59 So what's the basic message here, Colin? 04:01 So it is, the angel's giving 04:03 a history of events of the kings of Persia, 04:05 the future kings of Persia. 04:07 And then he moves quickly into the king of Greece, 04:10 the first king of Greece, which is Alexander the Great 04:12 and historians have looked back in history 04:14 and will advise this. 04:16 Yeah. Okay. Thank you for that. 04:17 Yeah. It's very interesting. 04:19 And then as we go into Daniel 11, 04:20 still in 11th Chapter, 11:4 now, it says, 04:23 "When he has arisen... 04:25 This is the first king of Greece. 04:27 "When he has arisen, his kingdom shall be broken up 04:30 and divided toward the four winds of heaven, 04:33 but not among his posterity nor according to His dominion 04:36 with which he ruled, 04:38 for his kingdom shall be uprooted, 04:39 even for others besides these." 04:41 And the main point being here, that when this king, 04:45 the first king of Persia, sorry, of Greece, 04:47 let me make that clear, 04:49 who was Alexander the Great when he dies, it says, 04:51 "The kingdom will be divided up into four. 04:54 This is really interesting. 04:55 So summarize that for us all, David, if you can? 04:59 Yes, it's really a parallel to Daniel 8, as we said before, 05:02 there's repetition that comes in. 05:05 And Daniel 8 says, 05:06 "Therefore the male goat grew very great, 05:09 but when it became strong, the large horn was broken, 05:13 and in place of it, four notable ones came up 05:16 toward the four winds of heaven." 05:18 So when you come back to Daniel 11, you basically, 05:20 you got this repetition coming. 05:22 You can see the parenthesis. 05:23 This is clearly talking about Alexander the Great. 05:26 It was the Great General that led the Greece 05:28 into such power at that time. 05:30 Okay, thank you for that. 05:31 Very good. 05:33 And, of course, it gives us a key to lock in there. 05:35 Then moving on to Chapter 11, 05:37 back to Chapter 11 now in verse 5, it says this, 05:41 "The king of the South shall become strong." 05:44 Now remember, there were four divisions 05:45 now in the Grecian Empire and the one in the south 05:48 shall become strong, as well as one of his princes, 05:51 and he shall gain power over him and have dominion. 05:54 His dominion shall be a great dominion." 05:56 In verse 6, 05:58 "At the end of some years they shall join forces, 06:00 for the daughter of the king of the South 06:02 shall go to the king of the North 06:04 to make an agreement, 06:06 but she shall not retain the power of her authority." 06:08 And so the main points are that 06:10 we have a king of the North being focused on, 06:11 and the king of the South as well. 06:14 So who are these kings? 06:15 So these two kings became more powerful than the others, 06:18 and you've got following Alexander's death. 06:21 And you've got Seleucid, which is in Syria, 06:23 which is the north part of in relation to Israel. 06:26 And you've got Ptolemy, 06:28 which is Egypt in the southern part of. 06:30 So he's king of the North. He's the king of the South. 06:32 Yeah, okay. And I thank you for that. 06:35 Now, there's a lot of historical detail here. 06:38 And some people reading will say, 06:39 Well, why is all this? 06:40 Why is there all this historical detail? 06:42 What relevance does it have? David, what does it have? 06:45 Well, you have the kings in the North and the South. 06:48 And there's a counterplay and interplay here. 06:51 And really, as the meat in the sandwich, 06:54 as we might say colloquially, hearing draws people, 06:57 and God's people are affected. 07:00 Every time Daniel writes, 07:02 he's really writing about God's people 07:04 and how they're affected and so on. 07:05 And this is certainly seen here. 07:07 And the message is that God knows their trials, 07:10 and will guide them through. 07:11 That's a great message, isn't it at that time? 07:13 And Daniel 11:14, it says, "Now in those times, 07:18 many shall rise up against the king of the South. 07:21 Also violent men, some say robbers, 07:24 of your people shall exalt themselves 07:26 in fulfillment of the vision, but they shall fall." 07:30 They'll come to their end. 07:32 They're against God's people, but they'll come to their end. 07:34 Which is a wonderful reassurance 07:35 for the people there in Israel, 07:37 as you say the meat in the sandwich 07:39 is a good explanation for that. 07:40 Okay, thanks for that. 07:42 In addition to that, of course, we see the sovereignty of God, 07:46 His hand over the movements of the nations 07:48 which may appear to be all totally independent 07:50 of anything that God might be doing. 07:52 He says, "No, I know what's going on." 07:54 And that's very important for the people of God. 07:56 Okay, let's have a look at Chapter 11 07:58 still in verse 16, this time. 08:00 Now, folks, we can't in the time 08:02 that we have not be able to go through 08:03 every single verse in this chapter, 08:05 we're picking the main points out, 08:07 so that you get an idea of where it's going. 08:09 11:16, "He who comes against him 08:12 shall do according to his own will, 08:14 no one shall stand against him. 08:17 He shall stand in the Glorious Land 08:19 with destruction in his power." 08:21 This is a fascinating statement. 08:23 So what power are we referring to here? 08:25 Well, this is a clear transition 08:27 from the Greek kings to pagan Rome, 08:30 which is the next empire. 08:32 And again, you have to go back to Daniel 2 and 7 and 8, 08:35 where it talks about who these powers are. 08:38 And so Daniel 11 is just a repetition 08:39 of the same powers, which is now moving 08:42 to the Greek kings to pagan Rome, 08:44 and the world influence they have. 08:46 All right. Now, thank you for that. 08:48 That's very important. 08:49 And then I'm going to slip down now to 11:20. 08:53 The next point of significance is that, 08:55 "They shall arise in his place one 08:57 who imposes taxes on the glorious kingdom, 09:02 but within a few days he shall be destroyed, 09:04 but not in anger or in battle." 09:06 That was interesting too in Daniel. 09:08 So, David, who is this referring to? 09:11 He just wants to raise his taxes. 09:13 This is one who imposes taxes 09:14 which is obviously Augustus Caesar. 09:17 As Colin mentioned, we move from one, 09:19 the Greeks to the pagan Roman Empire. 09:21 And here is Augustus, probably from about 09:24 the 14th year after Christ to the 37th year. 09:30 And this was Caesar Augustus. 09:35 It says, he died of natural reasons there. 09:38 He didn't die in battle, 09:39 he didn't die in some other place. 09:41 And this is exactly how he died. 09:43 This is one Caesar who wasn't killed in battle 09:46 or by subterfuge as many have recognized. 09:51 And this Caesar was the Caesar 09:54 who created a census in taxes at the time of Christ's birth. 09:58 That gives us a pretty good picture 10:01 of just one, this is indeed. 10:03 Yeah. 10:04 And now that's true and, 10:05 in fact, it's an important key to help us to, 10:09 if you like, check on how we're going 10:11 with our interpretation of that prophecy because, 10:15 as we all know, it was because of the census 10:18 for taxation purposes that caused Mary and Joseph 10:23 to travel that night of Jesus' birth 10:25 to Bethlehem from Nazareth. 10:26 So it's very important. 10:28 In fact, I'm just going to briefly read that 10:29 in Luke Chapter 2 and what verse is that? 10:33 Verse 1... To 4. 10:34 To 4, thank you. 10:36 Luke 2:1-4, which says, 10:37 "It came to pass in those days that a decree went out 10:39 from the Caesar Augustus," 10:41 we have already mentioned his name, 10:42 "that all the world should be registered. 10:45 This census first took place 10:46 while Quirinius was governing Syria. 10:49 So all went to be registered, everyone to his own city, 10:52 and Quirinius, for Joseph also went up from Galilee, 10:56 out of the city of Nazareth, 10:57 into Judea, to the city of David, 10:59 which is called Bethlehem." 11:01 And that's, and on that night 11:03 when they arrived, Jesus birth took place. 11:06 So this was a very important thing. 11:08 And again, it locks us in, in our understanding, 11:11 we realize we're on the right track now, 11:13 identifying pagan Rome here with this power 11:17 in Daniel Chapter 11. 11:20 And this becomes more important as we go on, as you'll see. 11:23 Okay, now 11:21. I want to read that. 11:26 So going back to Daniel 11:21. 11:30 After this is talking about, after Caesar Augustus, 11:33 "In his place, shall arise a vile person," 11:36 it says, "to him, they will not give the honor of royalty, 11:40 but he shall come in peaceably 11:42 and seize the kingdom by intrigue." 11:45 Now, this is interesting. 11:46 So we need to try and identify who is this vile person? 11:50 Well, Augustus when he died, he was succeeded 11:53 by his adopted son which is Tiberius 11:55 and he was known to be 11:56 eccentric and vile and he did it 11:58 by intrigued the way he came into. 12:00 Yeah, looking at the history of Rome and you say, 12:02 the way he came to power was by intrigue. 12:05 Okay. All right. Thanks for that. 12:07 And moving on to the next verse, 12:10 Daniel 11:22, there's more information 12:12 here we need to look at. 12:14 "With the force of a flood they shall be swept away 12:16 from before him and be broken, 12:18 and also the prince of the covenant." 12:20 Now, this is very interesting here. 12:23 David, who is this prince of the covenant 12:25 that we're referring to? 12:26 This is referring to Jesus Christ. 12:28 And it's very interesting 12:30 that this verse should bring this out 12:31 at this particular time 12:33 because it was during Nero's time 12:36 that Jesus and then later Paul died. 12:41 And he was a vile person, just as it says. 12:43 Tiberius is the person 12:44 we're talking about here, not Nero. 12:46 Well, I thank you for that. 12:48 And just, I just notice 12:50 also back here in 9:25. 12:56 There's a reference to Jesus as the prince here, 12:58 and I think it's worth bearing 12:59 that in mind and touching on 9:25. 13:02 "Know therefore and understand, 13:04 that from the going forth of the command 13:06 to restore and build Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince." 13:10 And it gives a date to look forward to that. 13:13 Daniel 9:25 therefore 13:15 becomes an important connection here, 13:17 because once again, He's called the prince. 13:19 What's plays in it, where you have Rome 13:21 who were the emperors, 13:23 and then it brings in the main character, 13:24 which is Jesus the Messiah in their time, 13:27 which was at the time of Tiberius 13:28 when Jesus was crucified. 13:30 Okay, okay. Thank you for that. 13:33 Now, we're still in Daniel 11:29, 13:39 which says this," At the appointed time, 13:43 he shall return and go toward the south, 13:45 but it shall not be like the former or the latter." 13:49 And we'll come back to that comment, 13:51 because that's an important one. 13:53 And, Colin, who we're talking about here? 13:56 Well, following that repeat and enlarge from, you know, 13:59 Daniel Chapter 2, 7, 8 and 9, 14:02 from Roman Empire or you have 14:05 what's called the pagan Rome 14:07 becomes religious, and unites the state 14:10 and becomes papal phase or papal Rome. 14:13 So it's not like the former or the latter? 14:15 It's not the former or latter, but it's a continual watch, 14:17 if you follow history that was where the power 14:18 that came out of there which was papal Rome. 14:22 We moved from pagan Rome to papal Rome. 14:23 All right, thank you for that. 14:25 So what does this power do, David? 14:28 Well, it says it's in enraged against God's covenant. 14:32 And this is the covenant that has come right 14:33 from the time of Adam right through 14:36 and it tries to break that, why? 14:38 Because it deals with salvation. 14:40 And one thing that the devil tries to do 14:43 with these forces is to come against the covenant 14:46 that God made with His people that there would be salvation, 14:49 and that salvation is free. 14:51 And then furthermore, 14:53 he defiles the sanctuary and takes away the daily. 14:56 This goes back to Daniel 8, 14:58 and the same power doing the same thing, 15:00 taking away the daily. 15:02 And this is an attack against Christ's ministry 15:04 and the heavenly sanctuary. 15:06 There's no way that Satan 15:07 wants people to rejoice in the sanctuary truth. 15:09 No, it's the central feature of our, 15:13 of the faith in the Bible. 15:16 I notice in verse 31, Chapter 11 and so. 15:19 It talks about taking away the daily, 15:21 it says, "Forces shall be mustered by him, 15:23 they shall defile the sanctuary fortress, 15:26 then they shall take away the daily sacrifices 15:29 and place there the abomination of desolation." 15:31 So it's definitely a religious power 15:34 that we're talking about here... 15:35 Yes, absolutely. That does these things. 15:38 And you've mentioned Daniel 8:11, 15:40 I just want to read that 15:42 because it's very pertinent 15:44 that we see the connection 15:46 between these various prophecies. 15:48 Daniel 8:11 says, "He even exalted himself," 15:51 same power that we've been talking about, 15:53 "exalted himself as high as the prince of the host, 15:57 and by him the daily sacrifices were taken away 16:00 and the place of His sanctuary was cast down." 16:02 And, of course, it's in the sanctuary 16:04 that God works for our salvation 16:06 and the forgiveness of our sins. 16:08 And that's another subject for another day. 16:11 All right, moving on, 16:13 we've come across an interesting statement 16:15 here in verse, 11:31, 16:17 the abomination of desolation. 16:21 What do you think about that title? 16:22 It's an interesting one. 16:24 Well, there's two words there, isn't it? 16:25 There's abomination and desolation 16:26 and usually what you have is an abomination 16:28 is followed by desolation. 16:29 So when we think of abomination, 16:31 now, great examples in Ezekiel 8:16, 16:34 where God is saying, 16:36 "Listen, look at these abominations 16:38 that My people are doing." 16:40 And He saves the worst a last. 16:42 He says, "You know what the worst abomination is? 16:44 The worst abomination is that they're worshipping the sun." 16:48 They're worshipping the sun. 16:49 He says, "That's the worst, worst abomination." 16:52 And so, when you look back at Daniel 9:26 and 27, 16:57 there is this, again, 16:59 Jesus is talking back in His day. 17:03 He's referencing back to Daniel Chapter 9 17:05 when He says about the abomination 17:07 and He's talking about when the nation, 17:09 Rome would surround Israel or Jerusalem, 17:13 okay, with these armies. 17:14 And you can read that in Matthew Chapter 24, 17:17 also in Mark 13:14, and Luke 21:20. 17:20 And He's saying, when you see this abomination, 17:22 and what was the abomination here speaking about?" 17:24 Well, the Rome had a standard of an eagle. 17:29 Now this eagle standard 17:30 was in honor of the sun god Mithra, 17:32 okay, and it's a God that Pompeii adopted 17:34 during the military campaign in Asia. 17:36 So before that, they had many different symbols, 17:38 but the eagle was, and it had a... 17:40 It was worshipping the sun so... 17:42 Okay, it's interesting. 17:43 And interesting down the road, you have this same power 17:47 that thinks to change God's times and laws 17:49 and brings in sun day worship, so the day of the sun. 17:53 So you can see this play 17:54 of sun worship playing right through. 17:56 From right through, it's amazing, isn't it? 17:58 Yeah. 17:59 So this does have an effect on God's people, David? 18:02 Yes. 18:04 And 35 it says, 18:05 "Some of those understanding shall fall." 18:07 And really when we go back 18:09 to Daniel 7:26 and 27, 18:14 you find this power is really coming in, 18:17 persecuting God's people. 18:19 In verse 25, 18:21 "He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, 18:23 shall persecute the saints of the Most High 18:25 and shall intend to change times and laws," 18:28 this which Colin has been dealing with. 18:30 And so this power certainly going against God's people, 18:34 persecuting them. 18:35 Yeah, yeah. 18:36 And finally, what does this power do though? 18:38 Colin, this is important. 18:39 Well, he magnifies himself, it says in Daniel 11:36. 18:44 And then it's referring back to, 18:45 you compare to Daniel 7:23, 18:47 we were just speaking about then. 18:49 And when you read that in Daniel 7:23, 18:52 it says, first thing, 18:54 "He speaks pompous words against the Most High." 18:56 So much blasphemy, 18:57 and blasphemy is the ability to forgive sins, 19:00 to say that your God is blasphemy. 19:02 And so this power would say, he's God on earth. 19:04 He can forgive sins. 19:06 It says, he will change God's laws 19:07 and we know they change from the Sabbath 19:10 from Saturday to Sunday in honor of worship of sun god. 19:14 So you have all these things happening that he would do. 19:18 Okay. Thank you. 19:20 All right. 19:21 And this papal phase of Rome, 19:26 how long would it last, David, 19:27 because this is a significant point? 19:29 I think, a good answer that comes back from Daniel 7:26-27. 19:32 "But the court shall be seated, 19:35 and they shall take away his dominion, 19:37 to consume and destroy it forever. 19:40 Then the kingdom and dominion, 19:41 and the greatness of the kingdoms 19:43 under the whole heaven, 19:44 shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High. 19:48 His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, 19:50 and all dominions shall serve and obey Him." 19:52 What a wonderful time this is going to be 19:55 when all this is wrapped up and God's people 19:57 are not persecuted anymore. 19:59 Yeah, that'll be fantastic. 20:00 Now look, moving on here 20:02 now that Daniel uses an expression 20:04 in his book a number of times, 20:06 which doesn't occur anywhere else in the Scripture. 20:08 And I just want to refer 20:10 to Daniel 11:35, 20:15 which says, "Some of those of understanding shall fall, 20:18 to refine them, purify them, make them white, 20:21 until the time of the end." 20:23 So I'm focusing on this expression, 20:24 the time at the end. 20:26 It occurs in Chapter 12 as well. 20:27 So what is the time of the end? 20:29 Colin, you've done some work on this? 20:30 Yes. 20:32 So again, when you're talking about 20:33 the future glory of God's people, 20:35 before that though, 20:36 it says that for a time times 20:40 and half a time, Daniel 7:25, 20:43 this is how long this power has, 20:45 for time, times and half a time, 20:46 which is 1,260 days or in Revelation refers 20:50 that many times 42 months, three and a half years, 20:52 times and times and half. 20:54 So this is a time that he would rule, 20:55 and from that time on is the time of the end 20:58 until Jesus' Second Coming. 21:00 Okay. Yeah, good. 21:01 Thanks for that. So the time of the end. 21:04 Now, moving on to another point here, 21:06 there are two major players as we come 21:08 towards the conclusion of this prophecy, 21:11 the king of the North and the king of the South. 21:14 So, David, can you summarize for us, 21:15 first of all, who the king of the North is? 21:18 Yes, the king of North encompasses 21:20 many powers as history passes through. 21:22 These chapters takes through many centuries of time. 21:26 And the king of the North really would in the first place 21:30 taken the northern Seleucid Kingdom, 21:32 which when Alexander died, and then four kingdoms came, 21:35 the North was the Seleucid Kingdom. 21:39 And then it comes to pagan Rome, 21:41 then to papal Rome, as we've already seen 21:43 in this particular chapter. 21:44 And to the final confederacy in Revelation called Babylon. 21:49 And Babylon is dealt with by John in Revelation quite a lot. 21:52 So here's the king of the North. 21:53 Okay, so they're operating by the same principles. 21:56 It goes through time through centuries 21:58 of time as the kings of the North. 22:00 But they're handing the baton 22:01 on to the next king of the North. 22:03 It does look. That is what's going on. 22:04 Yeah, true. 22:06 To do, but always to do with God's people, isn't it? 22:07 As the meat in the sandwich or as their attacks. 22:10 What about the king of the South? 22:11 Well, the same thing with the king of the South. 22:13 We had the four divisions of Greek Empire, 22:15 you had the southern Ptolemaic tenancy in Egypt, 22:18 okay, so he took over Egypt that was the king of the South. 22:21 And finally, peace in the meantime, 22:23 this is in 1798. 22:24 So who was pushing against papal Rome around 1798? 22:28 Was France, and it had the secularism 22:31 and also atheism. 22:33 And eventually it moves into global powers, 22:36 who represent the king of the south 22:38 who are representing atheism and secularism. 22:41 And they're pushing against 22:42 the king of the North, this papal, 22:43 these religious powers, 22:45 there's a struggle going back and forth. 22:47 And the interesting thing is that the king of the North 22:49 is going to overpower the king of the South. 22:50 In the end. That's true. Okay, it's really interesting. 22:53 So that the king of the north, ultimately, 22:57 until you get to 11:45, of course, 23:01 where the king of the North 23:02 also makes his waterloo as it were, 23:04 and that's when God's kingdom comes in. 23:07 Okay, look, that's really good things. 23:09 Sounds like it's complicated, folks, 23:11 but there are simple powers at work here. 23:13 And the principles that 23:14 they're operating by, we can follow. 23:16 Okay, lastly I'd like to consider thing, this thing, 23:20 the king of the North, 23:23 as we've seen as the papal Roman phase, 23:26 attacks the glorious holy mountain 23:28 in that last verse of Chapter 11, verse 45. 23:32 And it says, "He shall plant the tents 23:33 of his palace between the seas, 23:35 and the glorious holy mountain, 23:39 yet he shall come to his end, and no one will help him." 23:42 So this is where he comes to his end, 23:43 the king of the North that is. 23:46 So this glorious holy mountain here, David, 23:50 we probably should identify who that is? 23:52 Yes. 23:53 I think it's very clear too, 23:54 that this in the Old Testament was Jerusalem. 23:57 And when you come to the New Testament times, 23:59 there's believers throughout the whole earth, 24:01 those who accepted Christ as their Savior. 24:03 And it's a symbolic representation 24:07 of God's people everywhere. 24:09 And Revelation gives more detail of this, 24:11 particularly in Revelation 13 and 19, 24:13 where it says that this power will finally come to its end 24:18 and none shall help it. 24:20 All the way through 11 24:21 we've seen God's people being attacked, 24:24 being persecuted, as I said earlier, 24:26 the meat in the sandwich as it were 24:27 between the North and the South kings. 24:30 But now, God raises up these people to the fact 24:34 that this power will come to its end, 24:36 and none shall help him. 24:37 Yes, and we have the beautiful kingdom of God 24:40 following that. 24:41 Now Chapter 12 actually continues this vision, 24:43 which we won't have time to deal with today, 24:45 but we're going to deal with it in our next program. 24:47 So keep watching, folks, 24:49 and you'll be able to pick up on that. 24:51 Now look, we want to show you now there's, 24:52 if we can have that chart on the screen for the moment. 24:56 This is a chart showing us the parallel 24:59 between Chapter 2 Daniel Chapter 7, 25:01 and Chapter 8, and 9, and now Chapter 11. 25:04 So you can see how these follow through. 25:07 Once again, you have repetition, 25:09 and enlargement of the information 25:11 and the picture that God is giving us. 25:14 We started off with Babylon 25:15 being identified in Daniel Chapter 2 25:18 and Daniel Chapter 7, 25:20 under the symbol of gold in Chapter 2 25:22 and a lion in Chapter 7. 25:25 Then we came down to further down, 25:28 where we see Persia identified in Chapters 2, 7, 8, and 9, 25:33 and Daniel Chapter 11. 25:35 It's actually named Persia in Daniel 11 as we see, 25:39 which confirms the position 25:40 we've been taking with their interpretation. 25:43 Then moving to the identification 25:45 of Greece, the Grecian Empire, 25:48 symbolized by bronze in Chapter 2, 11, 25:51 in Chapter 7 and finally a goat, 25:55 and then Greece. 25:57 So moving right along quickly to Rome, pagan Rome, folks, 26:01 which was a dreadful beast, a little horn. 26:04 You'll notice in Chapter 8 and 9, 26:05 the death of Messiah is raised also in Chapter 11. 26:10 And then the next phase of this power was papal Rome, 26:14 where you had it symbolized in Chapter 7 26:16 by a little horn, who spoke pompous words, 26:20 and have an introduction of the God's judgment here. 26:24 Chapter 8, the little horn, 26:25 once again is the symbol that's used, 26:27 the daily is taken away 26:28 and the cleansing of the sanctuary corresponds 26:30 with the judgment of Chapter 7. 26:32 And then Chapter 11 26:34 also talks about the daily being taken away. 26:37 And finally, and this is the best part, 26:39 God's kingdom, 26:40 where you have represented by a stone, 26:43 first of all, then plain stated in Chapter 7, 26:46 that the kingdom is to be given to the saints. 26:49 And then in Chapter 8 and 9, the little horn is destroyed. 26:52 And in Chapter 11, 26:54 the king of the North is defeated. 26:56 And if we were to go on to Chapter 12, of course, 26:58 there is the introduction 27:00 of God's kingdom in more detail. 27:02 And again, that'll be dealt within our next program. 27:05 So thank you for being with us today 27:06 as we've studied this amazing chapter, 27:08 picking out the eyes of it. 27:10 And I hope this has been helpful. 27:12 The final struggle between God's people 27:14 and the king of the North will require a faith 27:16 that can stand tall, even if alone. 27:19 And being faithful today in the small struggles 27:22 of life strengthens our resolve, 27:24 and it prepares us to face the big issues. 27:27 Only the personal presence of God 27:29 will sustain us in that time. 27:32 So thank you for joining us on Let God Speak. 27:34 You can watch all our past programs 27:36 on our website, 3abnaustralia.org.au. 27:40 Teacher's notes are there if you'd like them, 27:42 and you can email us if you wish. 27:44 Join us next time. 27:45 God bless. |
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