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00:28 Welcome to "Reverse Heart Disease Naturally."
00:31 I'm Doctor David DeRose,
00:32 president of Compass Health Consulting,
00:35 and your guide on this journey into how you can
00:38 obtain better health. The year was 1990,
00:43 the date: July 21st.
00:46 The medical journal in question: the British Journal
00:50 The Lancet, an internationally acclaimed journal.
00:54 In that journal on that particular day,
00:59 there was a provocative question raised:
01:01 can lifestyle changes
01:04 reverse coronary heart disease?
01:08 I'm sure if you ask the average physician,
01:11 before that article was published,
01:13 they would have said, "No way!"
01:15 Coronary heart disease-- that's the cause of
01:18 heart attacks. That progressive disease process
01:22 could only be treated with things like medications and
01:26 coronary artery bypass grafting. But the
01:31 study revealed something remarkable.
01:33 Doctor Dean Ornish and colleagues
01:36 published the results, the
01:37 one-year results of what they called the Lifestyle Heart
01:41 Trial. What they demonstrated
01:44 is that, in over 80 percent of the subjects
01:47 in this study, there was
01:49 blockage regression. In other words,
01:51 the blockages were going in the
01:53 reverse direction. The arteries were opening up!
01:56 This was amazing and the medical community
02:00 took note. Now it's true--
02:04 there were smaller centers throughout
02:06 the world, and here in the United States,
02:08 that were already suggesting that
02:11 coronary artery disease was reversible.
02:13 But this was the first iron-clad study that documented it.
02:17 They did before-and-after angiograms,
02:20 those dye studies of the heart blood vessels,
02:23 actually showing that the blockages were
02:26 going in the opposite direction,
02:28 as everyone had expected. What did Ornish
02:34 and his team do? What was the lifestyle program
02:37 that was involved? Before we look at it,
02:40 let me tell you--this is just one in an episode of
02:43 presentations from the LifeStart Seminars.
02:48 It might come as no surprise to
02:50 you that LifeStart is an acronym,
02:52 a memory device that points to 9
02:55 essential lifestyle practices that can reverse
02:58 or prevent a host of diseases.
03:02 You'll see, as we go through Doctor Ornish's program,
03:05 some amazing resonance with the
03:08 LifeStart mnemonic. If it's your first time
03:12 listening to one these presentations,
03:13 let me quickly walk you through
03:15 those 9 elements in LifeStart. The "L" stands for
03:19 Liquids, the proper beverages. The "I" stands for
03:24 Inter-personal Relations, or Interpersonal Relationships.
03:28 the "F" stands for Foods-- dietary choices, that is.
03:33 "E" stands for Exercise. "S" for Sunlight.
03:38 "T" for Temperance--
03:40 that's the idea using things that are good in moderation
03:44 and totally avoiding things that are harmful.
03:48 The "A" in LifeStart refers to
03:52 Air--fresh air. The "R" stands for Rest.
03:56 The "T" stands for trust in divine power.
04:01 If you're not familiar with that
04:04 mnemonic, then I encourage you
04:07 to go to our Website, lifestartsseminars.com,
04:11 and pick up our free e-book on LifeStart.
04:14 It will walk you through
04:15 and give you more information
04:17 about those essential elements. With that
04:19 background now, let's go back to 1990,
04:22 and to Doctor Ornish and his team. What
04:25 did they do to reverse heart disease?
04:28 Well, first of all, they did focus on that
04:30 "F" in LifeStart. They focused on foods, on diet.
04:35 No animal products were allowed except for
04:38 egg whites and non-fat dairy.
04:40 We'll talk perhaps a little bit more about
04:42 that as we go along.
04:43 But one aside is is worth mentioning at
04:46 this point. Doctor Ornish has continued
04:48 to do cutting-edge lifestyle research,
04:51 moving his focus to cancer. Now Ornish is using
04:56 an exclusively vegetarian diet,
04:58 sometimes referred to as a vegan diet,
05:01 in his interventions. Back then, in the lifestyle heart trial,
05:04 they did allow some egg whites and non-fat dairy.
05:08 What did the diet look like as far as its nutrient composition?
05:12 It was 70 to 75 percent carbohydrates. Yes,
05:16 a very high-carb diet, but it was
05:18 primarily what we call "complex carbohydrates."
05:21 That's the kind of carbohydrates you find in whole grains--
05:24 the kind of carbohydrates you find in beans.
05:27 It's not the current kind of carbohydrates
05:30 you find in candy, which is simple carbohydrate sugar,
05:34 for example. The dye was about 10 to 15 percent protein, so
05:38 you could see it was very low in fat.
05:41 There was basically no cholesterol--less
05:44 than 5 milligrams of cholesterol--which is really an
05:46 infinitesimal amount. They did have some other
05:50 restrictions that we would say are
05:52 dietary restrictions, in the broadest sense.
05:55 Under the LifeStart acronym,
05:56 it comes under the heading of Liquids.
05:58 No caffeinated beverages were allowed.
06:01 Alcohol use was restricted.
06:05 I've never understood why Ornish did not allow the caffeine.
06:10 By the way, I'm totally in harmony with
06:12 that recommendation, and so is the entire
06:13 LifeStart approach.
06:15 I don't know if he avoided it because caffeine
06:19 in some studies has been linked to
06:20 higher cholesterol levels.
06:21 I don't know if his main motivation was that caffeine
06:25 destabilizes the heart. It leaves you
06:28 more susceptible to heart rhythm problems.
06:29 By the way, this is a great time for an aside on this topic.
06:33 If you have heart rhythm problems,
06:36 if you have atrial fibrillation intermittently,
06:38 if you have a condition called Paroxysmal
06:42 Atrial Tachycardia. What is that?
06:44 If you've never heard of it before, I know it's
06:46 that's quite a mouthful. "Paroxysmal"
06:48 means it comes and goes.
06:49 "Atrial" refers to the upper chambers of the heart.
06:53 "Tachycardia" is a fast heart rate. So PAT, or
06:57 Paroxysmal Atrial Tachycardia, sometimes called Paroxysmal
07:01 Supraventricular Tachycardia. Again,
07:03 "supraventricular" because it's from structures
07:06 above the ventricles, which are the main pumping chambers.
07:09 This condition is fairly common in healthy people.
07:12 One other things that can trigger it, or
07:14 make you more predisposed to it,
07:16 is caffeine. Although we're talking about reversing
07:19 heart disease (we usually talk about that in
07:23 terms of reversing blockages in
07:25 heart arteries), you can also reverse
07:27 heart rhythm problems by paying
07:29 attention to our beverage choices.
07:32 Caffeine is a big one. So is alcohol.
07:34 One of the things that can trigger atrial fibrillation
07:37 is heavy alcohol use, then coming off the alcohol.
07:40 This can trigger atrial fibrillation,
07:43 which is a quivering of the upper chambers
07:45 of the heart. By the way, if you do have atrial
07:48 fibrillation, it's very important
07:50 that you keep on top of that.
07:52 When those upper chambers are quivering,
07:54 they're not pumping in a physiologic way.
07:58 Because of that, blood can stagnate in the atria.
08:02 Then, if they do go back to a
08:04 normal rhythm, or even if they don't,
08:06 those clots--remember, stagnating blood can clot.
08:10 Those clots that could form in that setting
08:13 can break loose and then go to the body or to the brain,
08:17 cause a stroke or other problems. So,
08:20 heart rhythm problems can be serious.
08:22 Heart rhythm problems affecting the
08:24 lower chambers of the heart,
08:25 the ventricles, often cause death.
08:29 You've heard of Ventricular Tachycardia perhaps,
08:31 or Ventricular Fibrillation.
08:33 If your ventricles, the main
08:36 pumping chambers, are just quivering,
08:37 you actually will die because you're not
08:39 pumping blood through your body.
08:41 You've got to rapidly
08:42 get out of that rhythm. That's why
08:44 we use those electric paddles,
08:46 or the defibrillators, that are
08:50 more contained and that even a lay person can use. Why?
08:53 To try to shock the heart out of that abnormal rhythm.
08:56 Simple point: Ornish avoided both caffeine and alcohol.
09:02 I'm just telling you, there's
09:03 all these relationships with those
09:05 drugs--that's what they really are, caffeine and alcohol,
09:09 that can adversely affect cardiac performance. Again,
09:12 I don't know why Doctor Ornish and his
09:14 team excluded some of those things, or
09:16 restricted them, in the case of alcohol.
09:18 I do know this: caffeine has been dubbed
09:22 "bad habit glue." Many
09:24 psychological researchers feel that
09:28 if you giving someone caffeine, or allowing them to use it,
09:31 it makes it more difficult for them to break
09:34 bad habits. So, whatever the motivation was, no caffeine,
09:38 restricted alcohol use. By the way, the
09:41 LifeStart program, in my own practice,
09:43 over the past 30 years,
09:44 I have recommended that my patients
09:46 totally discontinue the use of alcohol.
09:49 It does not give any benefit for the heart
09:53 if you're already on an excellent
09:54 lifestyle. That means doing the kind of
09:56 things that Doctor Ornish
09:57 and his team recommended: eating lots of plant products
10:00 and little, if any, animal products.
10:03 One interesting thing that I should let you
10:05 know is that, if this sounds like too austere a diet,
10:07 Doctor Ornish's team did not restrict
10:10 calories at all. People could eat all they wanted,
10:13 as long as they followed those specific dietary guidelines.
10:17 Well, it wasn't just a diet program.
10:19 Remember, it was the LifeStyle
10:21 Heart Program. They included other components as well.
10:25 There was stress management training.
10:28 There was social and emotional support.
10:30 Are you listening? From the standpoint of LifeStart--
10:34 remember, "L" stands for Liquids. We've talked about
10:37 those already. The "I" stands for what?
10:40 Interpersonal Relationships. Ornish focused directly on that.
10:44 Actually, in subsequent writing that Ornish
10:47 has done for the lay press,
10:49 he has suggested that perhaps the very most important thing
10:52 was the social support, the love, the
10:55 emotional support that people received
10:57 in that context. Let's go on, though.
11:01 Other elements of the LifeStyle heart trial: smoking cessation.
11:05 No smoking allowed. Listen, if you
11:08 haven't heard enough about the reasons to stop smoking.
11:11 By the way, the minute you stop smoking--
11:16 I'm exaggerating a little bit-- but within
11:18 hours to days of stopping smoking, your
11:20 risk of dying from a heart attack
11:22 drops by something like 50 percent.
11:24 The reason for it is nicotine itself.
11:26 Just like caffeine and alcohol that we talked about,
11:30 nicotine, I'm not saying in an equal manner, perhaps even more
11:34 seriously, destabilizes the heart rhythm.
11:37 So, if you have a heart attack as a smoker,
11:41 with that nicotine on board, you are more likely to die
11:44 of a fatal heart rhythm problem. So, smoking cessation
11:48 was on the list. By the way, cigarette smoking,
11:50 with its ingredients like carbon monoxide,
11:52 damage the lining cells
11:55 of the arteries in your body. We call it the endothelium.
11:59 So, that carbon monoxide is damaging the lining,
12:02 making it easier for the blockage that
12:04 we call atherosclerosis to build up. Remember,
12:08 Lifestyle Heart Trials showed a reversal of
12:10 blockage. If you're going to reverse blockage, you have
12:12 to stop all the things contributing to the blockage in
12:15 the first place, which includes cigarette smoking.
12:18 So no smoking in Ornish's program.
12:19 Another element that you shouldn't be
12:22 surprised by that was in the program was
12:24 moderate exercise.
12:25 What did that look like? Ornish's team
12:29 required the participants to walk at
12:32 least 3 hours per week in at least
12:34 30 minutes per session.
12:35 It was moderate exercise, though.
12:37 It wasn't severe, strenuous exercise.
12:41 Now, at this point, I should tell you a story that I
12:43 heard from from one of Doctor Ornish's
12:45 collegues, one of the co-authors of that paper,
12:47 Doctor Sherwoods. Doctor Sherwoods,
12:49 shortly after the study came out, was
12:51 speaking to a group of health
12:52 professionals. I was in that audience.
12:54 He told a fascinating story about
12:57 their work with lifestyle interventions,
12:59 prior to the Lifestyle Heart Trial.
13:02 They were on the mindset that many
13:04 people were on back then. By the way,
13:06 some still are. "It's best for your heart
13:09 to work as hard as you can! Get your money's worth!"
13:11 "If you're going to the health club, you've
13:13 got to just work as hard as you can! You've got to
13:15 be there 30 minutes. Get all you can!"
13:18 "It's expensive to have a health club membership."
13:20 Listen, I've had many patients
13:22 over the years who had that attitude.
13:23 Let me just tell you what Doctor Sherwoods and his team
13:26 found in their experience. One day
13:29 they were working with patients--
13:31 heart patients with that very philosophy.
13:34 "Get as much as you can! Do as much as you can!"
13:38 One of the participants who had really
13:40 caught that spirit was just going at it.
13:41 He was on the rowing machine. He was going.
13:45 It was what was considered a very high-tech rowing machine.
13:48 This was back in the '80s,
13:50 and these high-tech rowing machines.
13:51 He was looking right in front of him
13:53 at a monitor. On that monitor were
13:56 other rowers. As he was rowing,
13:58 he was passing one rower, and then another rower.
14:02 He was just going for it. He finally, at the
14:04 end of his workout, got up he said,
14:06 "I just beat 100 rowers!"
14:11 And he dropped dead. That's right, he droped dead.
14:17 They couldn't resussitate him.
14:20 You could see why this dampened the enthusiasm
14:24 of the Ornish team when it came to vigorous,
14:27 maximal exercise. You get the point?
14:30 I am NOT an advocate of it for a number number of reasons.
14:34 If you've seen my series on longevity,
14:37 plus where I speak about blood fluidity,
14:39 you do excessive exercise, it makes
14:43 the blood less fluid. Maybe you've
14:47 seen my book, Evading Ebola.
14:50 You've heard my presentations about
14:53 improving the immune system, like addressing colds and flu.
14:56 In there I talk about the same phenomenon.
14:59 Do excessive exercise,
15:01 it suppresses the immune system. Moderate exercise
15:04 improves it. By the way, while we're speaking
15:08 about some of those other resources,
15:10 if you haven't been to the
15:12 LifeStart Website, we've got a lot of
15:15 resources there for you--many of them free.
15:19 We also have some that there's a fee attached to--some of the
15:22 video series in books. "lifestartseminars.com"
15:27 Back to the point about exercise.
15:30 Exercise in moderation is great
15:33 from the standpoint of just about everything we look at.
15:37 When you push it too hard, you lose the benefits
15:41 So Ornish should recognize that. Fortunately, by the time of the
15:44 LiffeStyle Heart Trial, and as a result,
15:47 moderate exercise was the rule.
15:49 Well, I already told you what happened.
15:51 We saw reverses of blockages, but there were
15:53 some other exciting things that happened.
15:55 Those exciting things actually help us understand why
15:59 lifestyle is so powerful. Before we go there, lest you think
16:03 this was just a one-year study,
16:05 and after that everyone just deteriorated,
16:08 Doctor Ornish subsequently published research
16:11 5 years after the intervention. It showed the same
16:15 thing was happening. Reversal was continuing to occur
16:19 over time as people stuck with a healthy
16:22 lifestyle. So why the benefits?
16:25 What happened? One of the things that was so
16:29 powerful about the LifeStyle Heart Trial was what happened
16:32 to cholestrol. If you are listening to
16:36 this presentation--you have high
16:37 cholesterol, you're on medications . . .
16:39 Without any medication at all,
16:41 they were able to drop the cholesterol
16:44 in the range--the bad cholesterol--in the range of
16:46 40 percent. 40 percent!
16:51 in one year. Do you realize how much that is?
16:53 That's a huge reduction in cholesterol.
16:55 So if you start with a cholesterol of 300
16:58 do you know what 40 percent is?
17:00 That's a 120 points! That's going from 300 to 180.
17:05 That would be if if we're talking
17:07 about a change in total cholesterol.
17:09 The biggest changes were in the bad
17:11 cholesterol, the LDL cholesterol. That was
17:13 where they were approaching 40 percent,
17:15 the total cholesterol dropping about 25 percent.
17:17 Body weight dropped. Blood pressure
17:21 fell, which was good because
17:23 high blood pressure accelerates blockages
17:25 in heart arteries. Just amazing benefits,
17:29 and it was occurring all, remember, with lifestyle
17:33 processes. While we talk to you about LifeStart,
17:38 or you hear about the LifeStyle
17:40 Heart Program with Doctor Ornish,
17:42 it's the same big picture.
17:44 you can change the future of your heart health
17:46 by changing your lifestyle. "Well," you say.
17:51 "Yeah, Doctor DeRose, I could change my lifestyle.
17:53 But if I got on a lifestyle like that,
17:56 I would be miserable for the rest of my life.
17:57 Why would I want to do that?
17:59 I'd rather die a little bit sooner, or even a lot sooner,
18:02 rather then have to be a vegetarian,
18:04 exercise every day, stop smoking,
18:06 get rid of my caffeine." Well, let me ask you the question.
18:10 Doctor Ornish and his team actually looked at the
18:13 quality of life
18:14 of the participants in this study. If you're right
18:17 about leaving off all your enjoyable
18:20 habits making life miserable. Is that what they found?
18:23 Actually, they found just the opposite. They
18:27 found that those in the conventional group--
18:29 their sense of well-being actually
18:32 deteriorated over time, because there was
18:34 a control group for this study.
18:36 The interventional group-- they actually improved.
18:44 Now, I like to be real precise
18:49 in what I communicate. I think if you
18:52 actually looked at what we call the
18:53 statistical significance of those changes,
18:56 the group that was the control group
18:58 didn't change significantly, okay?
19:01 In a year there was a suggestion maybe they were worse,
19:04 but statistically, probably-- we'll just call it the same.
19:08 We have to do that in research, and in
19:10 fairness, I'll just put that out there for you.
19:13 The point was,
19:14 that when it came to things like anxiety and depression
19:17 and insomnia and lack of pleasure in life--
19:20 all of those things got better in those that
19:24 embraced the comprehensive lifestyle program.
19:28 Here's the point: although we get attached
19:32 to the lifestyles that we grew up with,
19:34 the lifestyles that we've adopted over the years,
19:37 we can change our lifestyle and develop new enjoyments,
19:41 plus get the benefits of that new lifestyle.
19:44 If you've seen my presentation in
19:46 this series on addictions,
19:47 you've heard that concept before.
19:50 If you've seen my series, my miniseries, on changing
19:52 bad habits for good,
19:54 that's we talk about. You don't need
19:57 to go to any those resources to
19:59 catch this point because I really want you
20:00 to hear this. You can develop
20:04 new enjoyments. The things that you enjoy
20:08 today do not have to be the things you
20:10 enjoy ten years from now.
20:13 You can develop an enjoyment for plant foods.
20:16 Listen, I know this personally. I was not raised a vegetarian.
20:22 In fact, never even knew a vegetarian
20:24 growing up. For over 30 years, I've
20:26 been on that diet and experiencing
20:28 the benefits from it. I don't miss
20:30 all those hamburgers I used to ate,
20:33 even if i cant use proper English.
20:35 "All those hamburgers I used to eat." You've got it.
20:39 You've got the message, right? The point is simply this:
20:42 we can develop new enjoyments.
20:46 Let's take a closer look at food,
20:49 since we're speaking about those.
20:51 After Ornish published a study, a very interesting paper
20:55 appeared in the American Heart Journal about five years later.
20:58 The author was William C. Roberts,
21:02 a prolific cardiologist, author,
21:05 editor. One of the real pioneers,
21:08 one of the real leaders, in the cardiology
21:10 community. Let me read you something that Doctor
21:14 Roberts wrote. You may want to follow along with me:
21:38 Standard Cardiology Journal.
21:40 What is this prestigious author saying?
21:43 Based on research like that of
21:45 Doctor Ornish and his colleagues,
21:47 he's saying that we should focus our
21:49 attention on being vegetarians.
21:51 Roberts didn't stop there in the paper.
21:54 I can remember reading this,
21:55 some years ago, and he he took some pretty bold positions
22:01 Put put it this way--he said that human beings
22:04 clearly have more characteristics of
22:06 herbivores then carnivores.
22:09 He actually, I believe, printed this graphic
22:15 that I've reproduced for you here in the
22:16 paper. I think it was actually published
22:19 as a table. It's been a while since I've actually
22:22 looked at the original. I know I've
22:23 used this table in my lectures before.
22:25 Take a look with me at this
22:27 graphic that Doctor Roberts constructed.
22:30 He's looking at similarities and
22:32 differences between carnivores and herbivores.
22:35 He's making a case that human beings are designed
22:39 to eat primarily plant products. Do you see it?
22:42 The carnivores typically have claws,
22:45 whereas herbivores have hands or
22:47 hooves. When it comes to teeth, the carnivores have sharp teeth,
22:52 whereas the herbivores have mainly
22:54 flat teeth for grinding. That's
22:56 like what we have as humans.
22:58 The intestinal tract of carnivorous animals is short.
23:01 We, as you probably know, have a very long intestinal tract,
23:06 like other herbivores. Then he
23:09 gives other examples-- you can see there on the
23:11 table--about but how we drink water, how we cool our
23:14 bodies (sweating rather than painting), etcetera,
23:16 and our need to get vitamin C from our diet,
23:20 rather than being able to make our own. Interesting, isn't it,
23:24 to see this in a cutting-edge
23:28 cardiology journal?
23:32 You say, "This is all very interesting, but
23:35 it doesn't sound like what my doctors have told me.
23:38 It doesn't sound like what the dieticians told me.
23:40 By the way, more and more doctors and
23:43 dietitians are recommending the
23:44 vegetarian diet for reversal of coronary artery disease.
23:47 Many still say, "Oh, you know,
23:50 it's okay to have the egg whites.
23:52 It's okay to have the skim milk.
23:54 You can have a little bit of fish and chicken."
23:56 Let me just put things in perspective for you, because
24:00 this is really old data--and I'm speaking
24:04 '70s-'80s--where
24:06 people thought there wasn't much problem
24:08 with things like animal protein. You see,
24:11 if you're trying to focus on lowering
24:13 your cholesterol,
24:14 it is not only important to get the cholesterol out of your diet
24:19 (and that's found only in animal products),
24:21 it's not only important to get the
24:23 saturated fat as low as possible in a diet
24:27 (and that is found primarily in animal products),
24:30 but it is also important to boost the dietary fiber,
24:35 and that is only found in plant products.
24:39 You've got to eat those plant foods for the fiber,
24:41 but we're just going a step beyond now,
24:43 because animal protein raises cholesterol. That's right.
24:48 Even if you take away all the
24:49 saturated fat, all the cholesterol.
24:52 You take away the fact that animal products have no fiber.
24:55 Skim milk is not an ideal food for your cholesterol.
25:00 Yes, it's better than whole milk
25:03 Yes, it's better than two percent milk.
25:05 Skim milk will actually raise cholesterol,
25:08 based on its animal protein content.
25:13 Many studies have shown this,
25:14 both in animal models and in
25:18 human studies. If you want
25:22 some of the references, we have those available,
25:24 in the free companion guide that
25:27 goes with this. We have a little study guide
25:29 that goes along with this
25:30 presentation. you can get that also
25:33 at lifestartseminars.com
25:37 lifestartseminars.com
25:38 Now we to hasten on. We've talked about
25:41 some of these cholesterol connections.
25:43 If you want to lower cholesterol optimally,
25:45 you do want to be a vegetarian.
25:46 Maybe I should just tell you this,
25:48 while we're speaking about it. If you look at animal proteins,
25:51 and this has been done, you will find that
25:55 some of the worst proteins are fowl proteins,
26:01 skim milk protein. That's right--
26:04 right there near the top the list as far as
26:06 things calculated
26:07 to raise your blood cholesterol. So, eat
26:10 more those plant products. Get the animal
26:12 products as low as possible in your diet.
26:14 One other bonus now, before we
26:16 finish up and that has to do with
26:17 oxidized cholesterol. Oxidized cholesterol
26:21 is something that's especially damaging. We call it
26:23 Oxidized LDL. It's especially damaging and adds to the
26:26 build-up of atherosclerosis.
26:28 Cholesterol could be oxidized in the body,
26:31 but it can also be oxidized in foods.
26:35 Anything that has cholesterol in it and then
26:39 has a long shelf life is
26:42 especially predisposed to having oxidized cholesterol.
26:47 For this reason, I recommend that you
26:49 avoid things like custard mixes,
26:51 pancake mixes, Parmesan cheese,
26:56 lard. All these things that sit it out for a long time
26:59 have cholesterol in them. They are
27:01 rich sources of oxidized cholesterol
27:03 that can damage your arteries and add
27:06 to the build-up of atherosclerosis.
27:08 Well, we haven't looked at every
27:10 single element in the LifeStart
27:12 paradigm, but I think we've looked at
27:14 enough, based on Doctor Ornish's work,
27:17 and on the recommendations of others,
27:18 to help you see that heart disease and high cholesterol
27:22 are indeed reversible processes.
27:25 If you're carrying those diagnoses,
27:27 you are not forced to a life of
27:30 bypass surgery after bypass surgery,
27:33 or angioplasty after angioplasty.
27:35 You actually can stop the disease in its tracks,
27:38 and do more than that. Most people
27:40 can actually reverse the blockages
27:42 with lifestyle. Again, it's all embodied in that paradigm,
27:46 LifeStart. You want to learn more? It's all there for you--
27:50 lifestartseminars.com
27:53 Take advantage of the free study guide, the free e-book.
27:56 If you want even more, we've got often, in many areas,
28:00 special personalized coaching opportunities over the phone
28:04 or in-person. For all of us at LifeStart seminars,
28:08 I'm doctor David DeRose, wishing you the very best
28:11 of heart health.


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