Laymen Ministries

North India and Nepal

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Participants: Jeff Reich

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Program Code: LM000143A


00:01 I'm right now in West Bengal, North India,
00:02 just below our training school.
00:04 Our training school has outreach to Nepal
00:06 and we also have some students from Assam.
00:08 On this mission trip that we're gonna take you into Nepal
00:10 and let you see some of the results
00:12 of Laymen Ministries' work.
00:13 We'll show you a church dedication
00:15 of the new church that we just recently built by
00:17 a group of Korean Adventists,
00:18 and how one of our workers did the ground work there,
00:21 and show you some of the other areas
00:22 in Nepal where we are working right now.
00:24 So join us now as we take you on another adventure
00:27 into the country of Nepal and North India.
01:07 I'd like to welcome you to the Prerna
01:08 Lifestyle education center in Gorubathan, West Bengal.
01:13 We are part of the Laymen's Ministries'
01:16 organization out of Idaho, United States.
01:19 We'd like to welcome you in.
01:48 This is my mother's and my room where we stay
01:51 as well as often
01:53 where we have our different meetings.
01:55 And care for many of the interest of the center.
01:59 And here we have one of our young men's hostel rooms.
02:04 Come in and see our place.
02:08 This is where several of our male students stay
02:11 and this where they have been for the last two years.
02:21 This is our rest room and where we take our baths.
02:25 Sorry, I...man, the water is freezing cold here.
02:28 I'm sorry.
02:30 This is where they take their baths, by the way.
02:32 That's what I was just doing.
02:40 Welcome to our class room and meet our teachers,
02:43 my mother, Terri Horner and Joseph Mugar
02:48 who is translating for our class,
02:50 also one of our teachers here
02:51 and meet all of our students here
02:53 from Nepal and Assam.
03:02 Most of the time when I'm in class,
03:05 I'm teaching Bible doctrines and when Mommy's here.
03:09 Sometimes Mommy is, my Mommy goes to US
03:13 and so then I have over her classes
03:16 and then at that time I teach Bible doctrines
03:19 and when Mommy comes back, I translate for her.
03:22 Right now I'm just translating classes for Mommy
03:25 as she is teaching Daniel and Revelation.
03:28 Daniel is already finished
03:29 but we have still to finish Revelation
03:34 and so it's been very interesting to translate.
03:37 I learn as well as I can translate for her
03:41 and for the students.
03:43 Denis and I came here last year.
03:44 We saw the in depth
03:47 presentation of these students had.
03:49 I received a copy of the notes from one of them
03:52 and just all of the classes are like that
03:56 and they are learning material that in America,
03:59 we hear, we see in evangelistic meetings.
04:03 But it's everyday being presented
04:06 and then also translated.
04:07 So it's in their Nepali language,
04:09 so they have written down clearly.
04:12 This is my first time in this project in North India.
04:17 And I've heard a lot of things about it.
04:20 So I was really anxious to come and see for myself
04:23 everything that's going on.
04:25 And I am just so impressed.
04:30 Sandra is an excellent teacher
04:32 and she knows the language so well
04:35 and she's just really has a passion for what she's doing.
04:42 I'm just so impressed with it
04:44 and it's really nice to have her mother
04:47 be here with her.
04:49 The two work as a team.
04:52 Each one of them meets the need that needs to be met.
04:56 They can-- a kind of like a hand in a glove.
04:58 The students, I am really impressed with.
05:01 They-- it's not the same as in the Philippines.
05:06 In the Philippines, we're teaching basics like
05:09 math and science and spelling
05:11 and even though a lot of them had to learn English
05:14 when they came here,
05:18 the Bible classes that they are learning,
05:20 it's so deep.
05:23 Most of our young people that come to our cente
05:25 have come from Hindu backgrounds.
05:27 A few of them have been to church services
05:30 and had a little bit of Bible knowledge.
05:34 But most of them don't have much at all.
05:36 So we try to get them involved in the Bible stories
05:39 right from the beginning.
05:41 We start with Genesis, take them through the creation,
05:44 have them read chapters
05:46 in the evening in their personal time
05:49 and then we go through the books
05:51 of the Conflict of the Ages set.
05:54 God has blessed us very much with a very
05:57 good group of students this year.
05:59 They are very interested. They have their goals focused.
06:05 But, yeah, they come from a very rough background.
06:07 Most of them were Hindus before,
06:10 if not most of them were
06:12 and they come often from very rough homes,
06:15 broken homes, many challenges, a lot of poverty
06:20 and to see their growth over these last two years
06:24 has been just wonderful.
06:26 We're hoping that they can go out as Bible workers,
06:29 work in communities either in Nepal or India
06:34 and raise up churches
06:37 and if they aren't Bible workers
06:39 that they can at least be leaders
06:40 in their own home churches.
06:54 Besides solid Biblical training,
06:56 the students also get taught
06:57 how to use tools they need for outreach.
07:00 All of them learn how to use computers
07:02 and how to type, not only in their language
07:04 but in English.
07:07 These computer skills help them in their personal studies
07:09 as well as for evangelism.
07:12 By using a video projector,
07:13 together with point presentations
07:15 on various topics,
07:17 they can more effectively share the truth.
07:26 There's a tailoring shop that I just loved
07:30 because I love to sew.
07:32 And I went up there
07:33 and started speaking with the teacher
07:35 that was up there and students were up there
07:38 and they were sewing away.
07:40 And he said, oh, these shirts that they have on
07:43 beautiful dress shirts, they sewed themselves.
07:46 Their dress pants, they sewed themselves.
07:49 You know, it looks like something
07:50 you buy out of the store.
07:52 Probably better.
07:53 But I'm sure they are of better quality.
07:55 I spent a day up there with him today
07:58 and I started just momentarily showing them
08:01 a little bit about American quilting.
08:04 And they were just gathered around
08:06 and started looking at what I was doing
08:08 and the tailor's wife in an hour
08:11 made a pillow case out of a beautiful quilt patterning
08:15 that I just showed her.
08:16 I was like, I said,
08:18 "you are already better than I am at it."
08:20 And so wonderful people. I could stay here longer.
08:38 All the students and staff help in the kitchen
08:41 which gives the students an opportunity
08:42 to learn culinary skills.
08:49 This is Isaac.
08:51 He is the head cook and oversees
08:52 the preparation of most of the food.
09:00 Today they are making some dumplings.
09:03 Food preparation is a very social time.
09:09 All the meals are healthy and tasty as well.
09:14 The students mostly come from Nepal.
09:16 But we also have some from places like
09:18 Assam and other regions of India.
09:34 A lot of the food is grown by the students.
09:37 So agriculture is a big part of the training as well.
10:06 We are waiting for the rest of the people
10:08 to come down from the center of this hill.
10:09 Everybody is carrying their bags down
10:11 this steep stones stair way to load up on the jeep
10:14 'cause we are heading to Nepal this morning.
10:16 Take this jeep over to the Nepali border,
10:18 get our Nepali visas
10:20 and then we're gonna walk into Nepal.
10:33 Traveling in this part of the world
10:34 can be really tough with long hours
10:36 of being crowded on to a jeep or bus.
10:39 The roads are often dangerous being in disrepair.
10:47 On the way to Nepal, we wind down some steep canyons
10:50 till we come to the Teesta River.
10:52 Often traffic is backed up in this area for miles
10:54 due to land slides that block the highway
10:56 along the steep canyon walls.
10:58 Monkeys infest this area
11:00 and often steal from parked cars and trucks.
11:05 Finally you come to Tiger Bridge.
11:16 After several hours
11:18 we made it to the border town between India and Nepal.
11:20 The streets are always filled with festivities.
11:33 Our last stop before going into Nepal
11:35 is the Indian immigration office.
11:38 This is where we get our visa stamped.
11:40 This time our jeep driver
11:41 was allowed to drive across long bridge
11:43 that crosses the river
11:45 that is the border between India and Nepal.
11:51 We then boarded a bus
11:53 for the long trip to Silas's home
11:54 in central Nepal.
11:56 These are my Nepali friends, right here.
12:01 Be my body guards.
12:04 There you go...
12:12 This is a little bus stop here in Nepal.
12:14 We finally made it into the country
12:15 and they have plastic things for people.
12:19 Hey, the bus is leaving without us.
12:20 We got to go.
12:33 That was a killer bus ride.
12:35 We were hours and hours
12:37 and now it's 1:30 in the morning.
12:39 We finally made it to our destination
12:41 here in Nepal.
12:43 And we're ready to go to sleep.
12:48 We woke in the morning.
12:49 The ladies are making breakfast.
12:51 This is the home of Silas,
12:52 one of Laymen Ministries' Bible workers.
12:56 I'm making chapattis this morning.
12:58 I'm having fun rolling them out.
12:59 I'm not very experienced.
13:01 I have a hard time making them round
13:02 but I'm trying anyway.
13:05 But it's better than the glass.
13:09 This is chapatti.
13:13 We had a short worship
13:14 and then started planning out our time together.
13:21 Silas is an aggressive worker,
13:23 often walking far into the mountains
13:24 to remote villages to hold Bible studies.
13:27 And he's also been working this area where he lives
13:29 and now he's raised up two churches.
13:31 Sandra, where are we heading this morning?
13:33 Today we are heading out to -- there's a village near by.
13:37 We are right in time.
13:38 We are going there to see the church
13:39 where Silas is working.
13:41 This morning we had to wait for a taxi driver.
13:43 So I always enjoy watching life
13:45 as it is in different cultures.
13:53 Soon we were on a way to see the church plants
13:55 that Silas has established.
14:23 This church was being built by a team of South Koreans.
14:28 The same team has built several churches across Nepal.
14:33 Often Laymen Ministries does the ground work
14:35 and then teams like this one will build the church.
14:38 There was time that we also build
14:39 the churches as well.
14:47 Silas, tell me a little bit about this church.
14:49 You've been involved with this somehow.
14:52 Actually I have been praying since many months
14:58 for nice church over here
15:01 because we had many big problem with the renting
15:04 for the service, church service...
15:07 You mean like renting houses or something.
15:09 Yeah, many, many problems
15:10 because almost all are Hindus, no.
15:12 And then they trouble us.
15:13 And we have been praying, praying, praying
15:15 and then I talk with the section president.
15:19 And the he said, "Okay, okay, okay, we'll see, we'll see."
15:21 And then finally some of the Korean came
15:24 and then they start to make a building,
15:26 another part of...
15:27 This been kind of like team effort there in Nepal.
15:29 Yes, sir, all team, a bunch of same team they are
15:31 and then God answers our prayer and then He accept our request
15:35 and then He start to work here.
15:37 And all the things they did themselves.
15:40 How long have you been doing like field work in this area?
15:44 Around one year, sir, over here.
15:48 But in this city around four years, I'm working here.
15:52 Four years, huh? Yes, sir.
15:53 And this is the church, it's getting dedicated tomorrow.
15:55 Yes, sir. It is.
15:56 And you are just finishing putting the roof on right now.
15:59 Next, we headed over to see the other church plan.
16:08 We have here a church that has been recently built
16:12 this last year.
16:14 This church is built for those who have been displaced
16:18 from their mountain villages by landslides and floods.
16:22 And so this church has come down here
16:24 and Silas has been working with them
16:26 over thelast five to six years.
16:30 The funding for this church came from an American Pastor
16:32 by the name of Charles Shultz,
16:34 as a memorial to his late wife, Elizabeth.
16:48 Close by is his refugee camp
16:50 made up for people displaced by land slides and floods
16:53 and more recently earth quakes.
17:15 We're getting over to the dedication
17:16 of the church right now this morning on Sabbath.
17:31 Along the way there was this group of blind people
17:33 soliciting donations, like playing a music.
17:50 That turned out to be quite bit a longer walk than we expected.
17:54 I think we walked about I'm thinking three miles
17:57 something like that.
17:58 Now we are waiting for everybody to show up
18:00 here for the dedication this morning.
18:02 They said there's gonna be quite a few people coming.
18:04 So it's gonna be a small church big gathering.
18:06 It's gonna be interesting to see how everybody
18:08 is gonna fit inside the church.
18:10 Halleluiah.
18:50 That our life is been given to Christ.
18:54 Listen, listen.
18:58 Here's the church
18:59 and there's the seat, come inside and see.
19:08 After Sabbath we took a terribly crowded and bumpy
19:10 all night bus to visit another church plant.
19:13 Around 4 a.m. we got out along the high way.
19:16 The air was cold and the small shops
19:18 were just starting to come to life.
19:22 A friend of Joseph picked us up in a jeep at day break
19:25 and took us to the base of this large mountain.
19:29 In the rural areas of Nepal growing food
19:31 is an essential part of survival.
19:35 You guys didn't get cooked on the bus last night?
19:40 I shed a few layers and so then I was just perfect.
19:44 All night long I was like on the bus like
19:47 I must have been sitting on a heater
19:48 or something because I was like taking my sweaters off,
19:50 my shirt off and I was just in my t-shirt
19:52 and then having to put my coat back on.
19:55 It was like crazy. But...
19:57 So Joseph, this is a place where you used to live
20:01 or you used to work or where are we going now?
20:03 This is the road to my home, home place and so...
20:09 You mean your family is up here?
20:10 Yes, yes. Oh, really?
20:11 My family lives up there
20:14 and so this is the road for the vehicle
20:18 and we have another different trail
20:21 that people can walk if there is no vehicle.
20:24 So this is the long way.
20:25 If you walk it will take four hours or something.
20:28 How long is it by road going this way?
20:30 If you walk four hours.
20:32 If you go by vehicle it will only take like one hour
20:37 and jumping up and down in the vehicle
20:39 and so it is very difficult.
20:41 You've been up here before, haven't you?
20:42 I've been here the first time when they had made it
20:44 it was so bad I decided not to go
20:47 by vehicle, I walked.
20:49 Why 'cause like... Yeah.
20:50 It was so dangerous
20:51 I looked like it was kind of drop off
20:54 and fall down off the side of the mountain
20:57 and so I walked up.
20:59 For the first time I went to...
21:01 I ridden a vehicle, by the time I got in the mountain,
21:07 I was, all my body was... it was all sore.
21:11 I decided I will not ride in a vehicle because...
21:14 You're getting beat up by bouncing around.
21:16 Yeah.
21:17 And the other thing is that I pay money
21:20 and also I get body ache.
21:23 So if I walk I get exercise and I save money.
21:26 That's why you're going all around.
21:28 What kind of work have you been doing up here?
21:30 And have you been doing like evangelism up here
21:32 or Bible studies? Yes, yes.
21:34 I've been building a, I mean,
21:36 I've been leading in the construction
21:38 of church building
21:40 there and so we, once in a while
21:43 we come for the evangelism meeting
21:45 and we encourage believers
21:47 and there are some gospel workers
21:50 and we help with them.
21:52 We had several groups of students come up here
21:56 at different times and hold programs
21:57 in the mountain.
21:59 And all total baptized members, about 20 or 25.
22:03 So you've had some baptisms up here?
22:05 And it's from the ground work that our students had done?
22:07 Yeah, yes, yes. Well, that's...
22:10 We had a program.
22:11 The first program we had in this Southern part of Nepal,
22:15 included his family and several others believers
22:18 and that was back in the year 2000.
22:21 And so we've started the work here since then.
22:23 Have you had any of the American missionaries
22:25 worked up here with you or has it been mostly
22:27 Nepali students from the center?
22:29 And also we had the Judy and Denis
22:36 and Skaduna also come to help us up here.
22:40 Good. Well, let's go up there.
22:49 This is Joseph's friend's jeep.
22:51 I nicknamed it, the Mighty Merinda.
23:45 This reminds me of something that we would travel
23:47 in North Idaho going up into steep province.
23:51 We got a super high elevation but it's kind of foggy today.
23:54 This is the foot hills of the Himalaya mountains
23:57 here in Nepal.
23:58 We're still in kind of like
24:00 the Eastern and Central part of Nepal.
24:09 One of the main sources of income in this regional area
24:13 is growing in harvesting broom grass.
24:15 And as the name indicates, the grass is made for well,
24:18 making brooms.
24:28 This is my home and we are in my home.
24:31 There some people had put the broom grass
24:35 and this is the balance they use to buy,
24:39 weigh the broom grass and ginger, others.
24:41 That is, the crop that they earned some from them.
24:46 The businessmen just asked permission
24:48 to keep this balance here.
24:50 So this is my home.
24:53 These are the bee hives
24:55 and we have two boxes
25:00 but only, three boxes and two has the bees
25:03 and you just put the smoke inside
25:06 and then we can take the...
25:09 what you call? Honeycomb.
25:11 Honeycomb out.
25:28 Laymen Ministries' workers
25:29 that are working with the people.
25:31 Joseph was excited to show us the new church
25:33 that was being built in his home area.
25:35 Again the ground work was done by Laymen Ministries' students
25:38 under the direction of Joseph and Sandra.
25:44 On the fourth of November,
25:46 the church leaders came together
25:47 and had a ground breaking ceremony.
25:51 After the ground breaking ceremony was done
25:53 everyone got together to see what to do
25:55 for the layout of the church.
25:57 And they are trying to find out
25:59 who should be the architect of it.
26:01 And so after everyone discussed many different options,
26:03 then finalizes, while if you give me a paper
26:06 and pencil and a ruler,
26:08 I'll see what I can do
26:09 and so with all of their advice and suggestions,
26:12 this has been my first church
26:14 to draw the blueprint for and so,
26:17 here's my first try.
26:23 It's looking very nice.
26:26 The photos from the outside, it looks much bigger
26:29 now coming here just looks the right size
26:31 for the mountain church.
26:33 Being here, how many people been baptized here?
26:35 About 20 people. About 20 people.
26:39 This is really special for Joseph
26:41 because this is actually his home area.
26:43 So a lot of these guys
26:44 that are working on building the church
26:46 are people he've known since they were a little kids
26:48 and it's a real blessing that years later
26:51 after he's gotten training and we started coming back
26:54 and visiting his home.
26:55 Now his mother is a pillar of the church here in this area
26:59 and he's been a major contributor
27:01 having this church actually come into existence here.
27:05 So he's had the joy of seeing a lot of his childhood friends
27:08 become Seventh-day Adventist Christians
27:10 which is really a new thing.
27:12 And because of Joseph's honesty
27:15 this, only because of that
27:17 has this church been able to be built.
27:18 Otherwise it would take many more years
27:21 before it would be built.
27:39 Only to find out later,
27:40 we really didn't understand what was going on.


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