Laymen Ministries

Man Shall Not Live By Bread Alone

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript



Series Code: LM

Program Code: LM000153A

00:41 On this mission trip, we're going to take you
00:43 to the city of Chennai in South India.
00:49 When people think of India, they often think of food.
00:53 There are all kinds of wonderful
00:54 delicious dishes available,
00:56 and because a lot of the people are Hindu,
00:58 there's a lot of vegetarian meals to choose from.
01:01 The assortment of colors appeal to the eye
01:03 and the variety of flavors burst in your mouth
01:06 albeit sometimes very hot.
01:09 I'm getting hungry just talking about it.
01:11 Another reason why the food in India tastes so good
01:14 is due to much of the ingredients
01:16 coming from open markets such as this one.
01:19 Often the produce is just a day away
01:21 from the served meal, so everything's fresh.
01:24 When I walk through a market like this,
01:26 I'm so envious as one does not find
01:28 such healthy looking produce in the supermarkets of America.
01:31 The color of the fresh fruit and vegetables
01:34 is as bright as this lady's clothing.
01:36 And then there are chilies
01:38 which are a main staple here in India.
01:49 Indians take great pride in their cooking.
01:51 Their cultural dishes are seen around the world.
01:55 Restaurants such as this one in Kerala state
01:58 has a large assortment of South Indian dishes.
02:02 Rice is always the center of most of the meals.
02:11 The owner of this restaurant also doubles as a priest.
02:14 This is something you would never see in America.
02:19 The owner burns incense throughout the restaurant
02:21 right before the busy evening shift starts.
02:24 He believes this will bring prosperity and good business.
02:32 Pastor Johnson and I got into our auto rickshaw
02:35 with our driver Ravi to go see how the Bible workers
02:38 sponsored by Laymen ministries are doing.
02:46 The rickshaw is one of the fastest ways
02:48 to get around in India if you don't mind the noise,
02:51 and the dirt, and the pollution.
02:53 Our Bible workers share spiritual food
02:55 with those they meet.
03:21 Today, we're going to go look at a group Bible study
03:25 that the Bible workers are having here.
03:27 And they've been meeting here, do you know how long
03:29 they've been meeting at this place?
03:30 Last one year.
03:32 A year? Yeah.
03:33 And so this is just a small group of
03:34 part of the Friendship Ministry you were telling me about.
03:36 Yes, that's right.
03:37 It'll be interesting to see what they're doing.
04:13 Our Bible workers have small group meetings like this
04:16 in many places throughout the city of Chennai.
04:19 Prayer is a big part of these workers' ministry.
04:23 These groups are formed by contacts
04:25 made from going door to door.
04:29 This is a small group.
04:30 But in some places, they have up to 20 people
04:32 meeting in someone's home.
04:34 Much of the work is also just a one-on-one basis.
04:38 These ladies take turns sharing their testimonies
04:40 on how they came to Christ and what was currently
04:43 happening in their lives.
04:45 These ladies pray together and support each other.
04:52 The Bible workers went and knocked the door
04:54 and then prayed earnestly for her job.
04:57 Now she got a job.
04:58 She is going for the job.
05:16 Okay, so this is the area which you were talking about
05:19 where they'd like to put a temporary church?
05:20 Yes.
05:22 And I think that some of our viewers
05:23 have probably seen over the years
05:24 on our television programs where we've taken you to
05:27 temporary churches is what they call it, right,
05:29 that are on top of roofs like this
05:31 and they put up either a thatched roof
05:33 or a metal roof and they have
05:35 church service for maybe 25, 50 people at the most.
05:38 Yes.
05:39 And then what's the next step in the process?
05:41 After that, maybe, it depends on our financial situation,
05:45 we'll purchase a property and we'll build a church.
05:48 Yeah.
05:49 And in this area here,
05:51 how many churches have we established,
05:52 any at all or is this a new one in unentered territory?
05:56 Around this area, we have so far entered into 15,
06:01 one-five, 15, unentered territories
06:04 we have entered around this area.
06:05 In temporary churches in those areas or established?
06:08 We have temporary churches, four,
06:11 and we have built eight in this area.
06:13 Wow.
06:15 And what is the cost to build like a temporary church,
06:16 just to put a roof on a building like this?
06:18 It is $1,000.
06:20 About $1,000.
06:21 And then they use that for maybe a year or two years
06:24 until they can establish a full-grown church.
06:27 Yes.
06:29 It's one thing about Pastor Johnson
06:31 and the Bible workers, he runs a really tight ship,
06:33 you could say.
06:35 He's really firm with the Bible workers
06:36 but very loving, and they have correct accountability
06:40 about what they do every week,
06:41 how many hours they put in, where they're at.
06:44 Every Monday, they have kind of
06:45 a staff meeting where they come together.
06:47 These Bible workers with our group,
06:49 we monitor everything they do very closely,
06:51 we know what they're doing, we know where they're at,
06:54 and we know that they're working in.
06:55 Besides that, they have a real heart for the work, don't they?
06:58 Yes.
06:59 They do it because they really want to do it.
07:00 They have a passion.
07:02 A passion for it, yeah.
07:04 So where are we heading next?
07:05 Next, we are going to how our Bible workers
07:08 entering into a new home and giving the Bible study.
07:12 Like going and actually knocking on the doors
07:13 and giving Bibles?
07:15 Yeah. Okay.
07:37 A lot of mosquitoes in this area, huh?
07:39 Yeah, a lot of mosquitoes
07:41 and roads are also very dangerous.
07:56 The Bible workers are working in this area right now?
08:04 Our Bible workers go door to door two by two.
08:07 But this day, a group of four were visiting a home
08:10 where they recently made contact
08:11 with a Christian couple along with some neighbors
08:14 all who wanted to study the Bible.
08:24 I had a chance to meet the people
08:26 who recently started Bible studies,
08:29 they shared with me what happened
08:30 when the Bible workers first came
08:32 to their door a few weeks earlier.
08:43 They opened the Word of God like this in many homes.
08:46 They never know what faith the people might belong to.
08:49 Sometimes they can be Hindu, Christian, or even Muslim.
08:53 A few days earlier, this couple was reading
08:55 a Bible verse Revelation 3:20 that says,
08:58 "Behold, I stand at the door and knock.
09:01 If anyone hears My voice and opens the door,
09:03 I will come in to him and sup with him, and he with Me."
09:07 Right then there was a knock on their door
09:09 and it was two of our Bible workers.
09:12 The first step in the process of what the Bible workers do,
09:14 they followed this verse he was just sharing the Bible,
09:17 knocking on the door and then if the people open the door,
09:20 they come in, and they eat, and they sup with them,
09:22 and they share the Word of God.
09:24 So that's a first step of what the Bible workers do.
09:27 Then finally, they have like a group Bible study,
09:29 and then eventually, they establish a church
09:31 and people start worshipping together.
09:34 And also, she is attending
09:38 where we went just now.
09:41 That is a place,
09:43 every Saturday evening, they meet.
09:47 So she's a regularly going.
09:48 She's the grounds of us.
09:53 That is the meaning.
09:56 No, no, no.
09:57 Still we have grandchildren.
09:58 But I think we are old.
10:00 Still we have, no, still we got...
10:04 A short distance from this home
10:05 was another lady we went to visit.
10:07 She studied with the Bible workers
10:09 and was recently baptized as a new Christian.
10:13 She had a dream that confirmed
10:14 she needed to study the Bible with her Bible workers.
10:17 After her husband's death,
10:19 she got work in the postal service,
10:23 and after her retirement, with a lot of huge challenges,
10:28 she came to the city of Chennai with her son.
10:31 And she was kind of in need of prayer in her home
10:37 for the difficult situation.
10:39 Her house maid told, "Shall I bring a Bible worker
10:44 who is coming to my home regularly?"
10:47 Then she said, "Okay, bring, but except Jehovah Witness,
10:50 you can bring anybody."
10:52 Then the day came, our Bible workers came
10:56 and she was so happy,
10:58 and they started sharing the truth.
11:02 And the pastor also came
11:04 and shared a lot of Biblical doctrine,
11:06 state of the dead, sanctuary, second coming,
11:10 all of that, and she was excited,
11:12 and she took baptism.
11:14 How long did she study the Bible
11:15 with the Bible workers?
11:20 Six months. Six months.
11:23 And then she was baptized right after that?
11:25 Yes.
11:26 So a six-month study period before she was baptized
11:30 because we're really careful not having somebody baptized
11:33 until they're really grounded in the truth.
11:36 We've shared on a number of our television programs
11:38 about the simple process that we use here in India
11:40 to be able to establish churches.
11:42 We sow seeds with literature and television work.
11:45 The television and literature goes to places
11:48 where no man can go.
11:49 It goes into homes and into people's hearts.
11:53 And then when the Bible workers go door to door,
11:55 they often knock on the doors and they introduce themselves
11:58 as being connected with the literature
12:00 or the television programs
12:01 that a lot of people here are familiar with.
12:03 And that often opens the door for them to come in
12:05 and to be able to share.
12:06 So this next step is basically personal visitation,
12:09 going door to door, and getting to know people.
12:12 And eventually as they work an area,
12:14 they get us a core group of people who come together
12:17 and start studying the Bible in a home,
12:19 like we've seen already on this program.
12:21 And that leads to a temporary church oftentimes
12:24 on the roof of a house or in somebody's home.
12:26 And then as the company continues to grow,
12:29 they buy property, they build a church,
12:31 and a church is established.
12:32 And even then, even though
12:34 there's been a number of churches established
12:35 in Chennai by Laymen Ministries
12:37 Bible workers, they do not get neglected and forgotten.
12:40 The Bible workers continue, even years later,
12:42 going back and visiting these churches,
12:44 keeping these churches strong, making some of the people
12:47 in those churches become leaders,
12:49 and then having a pastor assigned to those churches
12:51 to be able to keep those churches
12:52 functioning properly.
12:54 So it's a really simple process, you know,
12:56 it's a proven process, the Gospel process.
12:58 Visiting people in their homes, meeting their needs,
13:01 opening the Word of God, establishing a church,
13:04 and then allowing that church to get involved
13:06 with sharing the gospel to others.
13:47 Every year when we come to India,
13:49 we have group meetings like this
13:50 with our Bible workers and overseers.
13:52 But they also have staff meetings like this
13:55 every Monday morning to outline their work for the week.
14:02 These Bible workers often travel great distances
14:05 to work areas of the city.
14:07 They have a heart for the work and love to share
14:10 the bread of life with those that hunger and thirst.
14:14 Many of them have worked
14:15 with Laymen Ministries for years
14:17 and are our friends as well as our co-workers
14:19 together with Christ.
14:25 We met a man.
14:28 This man is an alcoholic.
14:33 I guess Ruby and Christy are whipping up some idlis
14:36 in Ruby's kitchen.
14:37 So let's go in and check it out.
14:41 This morning, we're in Ruby's kitchen
14:43 and we're going to make what's called sambar and idly.
14:47 And to begin with, there are basically
14:49 three ingredients that are used in idlis.
14:53 Idili is spelled I-D-I-L-I, not like the country.
14:59 We've got three items here.
15:01 We have what is called dal.
15:05 Basically, it's your black bean.
15:07 It's been broken and skins have been removed,
15:11 and this is one of the foundations
15:13 for the idli mixed with the rice
15:15 and the fenugreek.
15:17 And what happened with these three items
15:20 is they were soaked,
15:22 and they were soaked for about four hours,
15:25 and then they were ground.
15:27 And after they were ground,
15:29 we ended up with a product that looks somewhat like this.
15:34 It's kind of a milky substance.
15:37 Also, what's been added to that is a little bit of salt.
15:41 And so we've got four cups of rice, one cup of dal,
15:45 about a tablespoon of fenugreek, and about,
15:48 I'd say, a teaspoon of salt,
15:50 and that's the basic ingredients for the idli.
15:54 The idli ends up being a really nice little round rice patty,
15:59 and if you just looked at the rice...
16:01 At the idli, you would think, "Oh, how simple?
16:04 It's just a rice patty."
16:05 But it's really more involved than that.
16:08 The idli is often served
16:11 with something that's called sambar,
16:13 and it's like a delicious kind of soup
16:17 and it has in it the dal once again,
16:20 and this is a little bit different,
16:22 this one is actually like a gold lentil.
16:25 It has tomato in it, onion, and garlic.
16:29 It has curry in it.
16:31 And this is a point I really want to make.
16:34 This is the curry that's used in India.
16:37 It's the leaf curry.
16:40 Many times in the States, when people make Indian food,
16:43 it's a ground curry, it really has a different flavor to it.
16:47 So this is a key element
16:48 to making authentic Indian food.
16:53 And the other ingredient that is the mustard seed.
16:57 I had no idea that that was
16:59 what those little black things were.
17:01 All this time I thought it was little black peppers,
17:04 peppercorns.
17:06 But it is a mustard seed
17:07 and it adds a really nice unique flavor.
17:12 Tomato is added to that, and it just makes
17:15 a really nice type of gravy that goes over the idli.
17:24 Okay, the next process
17:25 in the making of idlis is this boiler.
17:29 And it's really interesting
17:30 because it has about this much water in it.
17:34 And it has these little trays on the top.
17:37 I'll kind of lift it up so you can see.
17:40 Hot, hot.
17:42 So we're going to wait for the water to boil
17:45 and then we're going to dip the idli mixture
17:50 into each one of these
17:54 like little muffin pans,
17:56 and it will steam the idli.
18:05 So we'll make seven idlis at a time with this dish.
18:10 And now do we cover it?
18:11 Yes.
18:13 Okay.
18:14 Okay, we are going to take out the idli now.
18:17 You put a little water on there?
18:19 Yeah.
18:24 Okay.
18:27 I'll move that.
18:43 Do you keep dipping the spoon so that it doesn't stick?
18:47 Yeah.
18:48 Okay.
18:50 We're ready to eat our idli.
18:52 And we've got it here on the banana leaf
18:55 which is a very traditional way to eat the breakfast.
19:10 Next, we want to take you
19:11 to Laymen Ministries' television studio
19:13 and administrative building outside the city of Chennai.
19:16 We have our bookstore here as well and a church.
19:20 How many years ago did we build this building?
19:23 Four years.
19:24 Four years ago? Yeah.
19:25 So that's 2013...
19:27 March 2nd. March 2nd.
19:29 When did we have the dedication?
19:31 On March 2, 2013.
19:34 Oh, that was the actual dedication,
19:36 but we bought the property like a year before the construction.
19:38 A year before.
19:39 I think almost we can say five years,
19:42 but the studio and everything started to function since 2013.
19:46 This place is really kind of transformed a lot
19:48 because I remember when we first built it,
19:50 it was just bare, you know, it was like...
19:53 We didn't even have the cement or anything here yet.
19:55 Yeah. And no plants.
19:56 Wow, everything is green
19:57 and you've got flowers around here.
19:59 Yeah.
20:00 I want to see that new addition where you put
20:01 all the books in for the book store.
20:03 Yes.
20:04 And that's on the top of the church, right?
20:06 You are right. Okay. Yeah.
20:07 Right now we're heading up to the new addition
20:10 on top of the church that we have for book storage.
20:12 We moved the bookstore out of this building.
20:15 So we have more, like,
20:17 living quarters up on the upper storey of the studio,
20:19 and we moved all the stuff up
20:21 to the upper floor of the church.
20:28 Nice room.
20:30 It's a tradition in India.
20:31 You have to take your shoes off
20:33 whenever you go inside of a room.
20:36 It looks pretty nice.
20:39 This room is a lot bigger than the other storage room we had.
20:41 Yes. More than double portion.
20:42 Yeah. We really need the space.
20:44 And what all do we have here?
20:46 Got a lot of boxes and stuff here.
20:48 We have morning devotions, and these all storical lessons.
20:53 These are the Amazing Facts storical lesson.
20:55 Amazing Facts storical lessons.
20:57 And then the song book church, song book.
21:01 A song book. Church song book.
21:03 Then Steps to Christ.
21:05 Yeah, we did a new print of Steps to Christ.
21:07 You are right.
21:09 Do you have any of the new Great Controversy here yet?
21:10 And that by...
21:12 We printed everything, new translation, and...
21:17 Do you have a copy here? Everything...
21:19 Any copies of it?
21:20 Copy will come tomorrow. Oh, coming tomorrow.
21:22 They're just now starting to come off the press.
21:24 Yes, yeah.
21:25 Yeah, so we just printed Great Controversy
21:26 and you were saying it's done in two books, right?
21:29 Two volumes.
21:31 Part one and part two.
21:32 And The Desire of Ages is going to be the next one
21:34 to come off the press.
21:35 Next one, yeah.
21:36 And is that going to be in several volumes,
21:38 one, two, three?
21:39 Yes.
21:40 Yeah, we are planning for three.
21:42 Three volumes for that one.
21:43 And what's the reason that we broke those books up
21:45 into separate volumes?
21:46 I think it's very easy to read because when you give a kind of
21:49 800 page or 900 page book to a reader,
21:53 even if a person wants to read,
21:55 if he sees the pages or the book size,
21:59 "Oh, this much, how can I read?"
22:01 Yeah, life is so busy now.
22:02 People don't want to obligate themselves
22:04 to reading a thick book.
22:06 And it's interesting here, all the years
22:07 that we've been involved with translating literature,
22:09 which you can see we've worked
22:10 with a lot of different types of publications,
22:12 that when you take a Great Controversy book,
22:14 that's like about this thick in English,
22:16 and translate it into Tamil,
22:18 it all of a sudden turns into about that big of a book.
22:21 So to hand that book to somebody
22:22 is pretty intimidating unless they're really committed to it.
22:25 And also, I would like to thank the donors
22:28 and the support to build this storage building
22:34 because the reason is we are waiting
22:36 for another almost 10,000 to 15,000 books.
22:40 On the way coming, more books coming?
22:42 On the way by another three months
22:44 because we want to store the books
22:46 as much as we are all printing and...
22:47 This room is not going to be big
22:49 enough even to handle...
22:50 Big enough.
22:52 I mean, we're printing large volumes of books here,
22:53 and then we're working with some other organizations too
22:55 that sponsor the printing of books
22:57 and they donate books to our ministry
22:59 because they know that we have a good system for distribution.
23:01 Yeah. So yeah, all storicals.
23:05 Why don't you tell us about these a little bit?
23:08 Because this is very nice one.
23:10 The storical lesson by Amazing Facts.
23:13 And we have translated in multi-color,
23:16 and this is very nice, it's attractive to the people,
23:21 very much, to the readers.
23:23 Yeah, these look just like the ones in America
23:24 but they're in the Tamil language.
23:26 And by the way, I was in contact
23:29 with Amazing Facts recently,
23:30 and I gave them the PDF files for each one of these,
23:35 and these are now available at Amazing Facts
23:38 on their website.
23:39 And also some of the other ones
23:41 that we've translated in other languages,
23:43 you can get these to share with your Tamil friends
23:45 or Lithuanian friends
23:47 or some other countries like that
23:48 that have been provided to Amazing Facts
23:51 from Laymen Ministers.
23:52 Yes. That's very nice.
23:53 Tell us how this is distributed.
23:55 And this one, the first one,
23:58 people who call from our television program,
24:01 wherever we hold evangelistic meeting,
24:04 people, they ask the books.
24:05 Then we send the books, and also...
24:09 Is it just mostly going to people
24:11 around the city of Chennai?
24:12 Around the city of Chennai and the whole India,
24:14 not only Chennai.
24:16 Whole India, whole India.
24:18 Then, this is very interesting.
24:20 The Southeast India Union of Seventh-day Adventist
24:25 in the southern India, the Union has made a law,
24:29 they have to buy all of these books
24:31 and sell in the school.
24:35 To the Adventist church schools?
24:37 You are right.
24:38 So they're saying, all this literature now
24:39 is getting distributed in Adventist church schools.
24:41 Yes.
24:42 Does any of this literature go overseas to other countries?
24:43 Yes, the third thing is, people who are in Far East
24:47 like Sri Lanka, Singapore, Malaysia,
24:50 even France, even America,
24:53 people who come, "Oh, Johnson, I heard you have this book,
24:56 this book, why can't you give?"
24:57 Because now a lot of IT people are in America from India.
25:01 They are from Hindu background.
25:03 When they come to America, slowly, through friends,
25:06 they are coming to the church, then they would like to read,
25:09 "Okay, this is the concept of the church,"
25:11 and this is truth.
25:13 So they start to read like that.
25:16 So, even throughout the world, these books are going.
25:20 Yeah, praise God.
25:21 And before you call our ministry
25:22 and request a Tamil version of the Great Controversy,
25:25 realize, we really don't store
25:27 any of these books at our ministry,
25:29 we'd have to put you in contact with our office here in India.
25:33 So these are the guys from the studio.
25:35 Who are they?
25:37 Christo Samuel, he is a studio manager
25:42 and coordinates all the programs for television,
25:46 and YouTube, and evangelistic meetings.
25:49 He is in charge of production.
25:51 Then he's Praveen.
25:53 Yeah, Praveen, you're new here, aren't you?
25:55 Yeah.
25:56 How long have you been working?
25:58 I'm here working for past six months.
25:59 Six months now. Yeah.
26:01 Okay, good, yeah.
26:02 And what is he doing?
26:03 He is a kind of marketing guy.
26:05 He can handle all the situations.
26:07 He is smiling.
26:09 So if there is any challenge,
26:12 we can send him front he will do everything.
26:13 And what kind of technical stuff are you doing?
26:15 He is an editor.
26:16 Editor, huh? Editor.
26:18 And he is Sudhakar.
26:20 He does graphics.
26:22 He graduated diploma in graphics,
26:24 and he's also an editor.
26:26 You've been with us two years now?
26:28 Yeah, it's two years. Two years, yeah.
26:29 More than...
26:30 Almost more than two years.
26:32 And he is kind of a behind the scenes guy.
26:33 He does a lot of the camera work
26:35 and different things like that too.
26:36 And also, he's the security...
26:39 You are the security guy?
26:40 And the storage manager, bookstore manager.
26:43 So he is involved with the shipping of the books
26:44 and things like that too?
26:45 Yes. Wow.
26:47 So he is involved in everything.
26:48 And we have an evening community service
26:50 called tutoring.
26:53 They're all from villages
26:55 and they go to the government schools.
26:57 So our team, the technical team,
27:00 after their work, five o'clock,
27:03 voluntarily they involve in this evangelism.
27:07 So you're just kind of helping the kids,
27:08 like in the areas they might be weak,
27:10 in like math and other.
27:11 Yes, English. English.
27:14 Science, and also for you information,
27:17 even the school teachers came
27:19 and they appreciated our technical team.
27:21 Wow. Wonderful.
27:22 And they appreciated us.
27:24 Are you guys involved with the tutoring?
27:25 Yeah, one of the things that I've noticed
27:27 in coming to the studio over the last four years
27:30 is that the presence that
27:32 this studio has with the workers here,
27:33 the Bible workers,
27:35 actually even the studio tech guys,
27:37 all the people in this community love them.
27:39 You know, this is a predominate Hindu area,
27:41 but the children come here, they're getting the tutoring,
27:43 and everybody's well respected here.
27:46 I'm eager to see what's going on at church here
27:48 and see how many people are attending.
27:56 Across India, Laymen Ministries is sharing the bread of life.
28:01 Just as we have a need for physical food,
28:03 there's a hunger for spiritual food.
28:06 Become a team member with us by your prayers and support.


Revised 2023-02-13