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00:29 (gentle music) 00:38 - Glad you could join us here 00:39 with an interview with Pastor Johnson from India 00:42 in one of our programs for Laymen Ministries. 00:44 Pastor Johnson just came from the General Conference session 00:46 and he had the opportunity 00:48 to come to Laymen Ministries here. 00:50 It's been almost four, five years since you've been here? 00:53 - Yes, sir. 00:54 - 'Cause COVID and all kinds of stuff happened and such. 00:58 Part one of our interview, 01:01 we talked about the history of Laymen Ministries in India 01:03 and television ministry and Bible workers 01:06 and the things that are happening there 01:08 and what we were doing during the COVID shutdown. 01:11 On this particular episode, 01:13 we want to talk about orphans. 01:15 And Laymen Ministries is not new to orphanages. 01:18 Way back in the late 1990s, 01:21 we were working with helping orphanages 01:23 in the country of Lithuania 01:25 and the situation there was just terrible. 01:28 I mean right after the collapse of communism, 01:30 we went to some orphanages 01:32 that were unheated buildings in the winter time, 01:34 and this is way up in Lithuania, 01:35 north of Poland and Germany 01:37 and kids didn't have toothbrushes, 01:39 sometimes they didn't have running water. 01:41 So Laymen Ministries did a lot to help those situations. 01:44 But then Lithuania over the years 01:45 finally became part of the European Union. 01:48 They ended up getting a lot of support 01:51 from Germany and Austria and different countries. 01:53 And it really got to the point 01:55 where Laymen Ministries didn't really need 01:57 to help the orphans there anymore. 01:59 They had plenty of new buildings 02:01 and funds coming in to help them. 02:03 And you and I have been talking about orphans 02:05 for quite awhile. 02:06 And I think India is a place 02:09 that there's a real need for orphanages, don't you? 02:11 - Yes. 02:12 - And so what, how did it happen 02:15 with Laymen Ministries getting involved with orphanages 02:17 in southeast India? 02:20 - The concept how it developed, 02:23 as from the beginning, 02:25 when we met since 1996, 02:28 the concept of our idea is not only sharing the gospel, 02:33 it is again the Jesus model. 02:35 Jesus, he was conducting a big evangelistic meeting. 02:39 After the meeting, he didn't just leave. 02:43 He saw the opportunity to provide the food. 02:47 - Like when he fed the 5,000 yeah. 02:50 - 5,000. 02:51 So in his whole life, healing the sick, all that work. 02:54 So like television, we can preach, that is nice, 02:59 but we have to do the follow-up work. 03:02 So we were talking about all that one 03:06 and whenever I come to the studio, I see the magazine, 03:09 how you did in Philippines and how in the European, 03:15 Lithuania, right? 03:16 - Yeah, in Lithuania. 03:18 - Lithuania and all that one. 03:20 So then I was also thinking, 03:22 we have a Bible workers, 03:24 we have a television program, we have follow work. 03:26 When we visit to the homes, 03:28 we door to door evangelism, 03:31 on the road, we see some children and no property. 03:34 - [Jeff] Sleeping under the bridges. 03:36 I mean if you could just see the situation 03:38 that some of these orphaned kids come from, it is terrible. 03:43 - There is two children, they are studying in our home. 03:48 - In our boys home. 03:50 By the way, that's what we call the boys orphanage, 03:52 we call it the boys home. 03:54 - Boys home. 03:55 In our home, there were two children, brothers, 04:00 father left the wife 04:03 and I don't know where the father is, 04:04 still, they're not able to find. 04:06 The mother became mentally depressed 04:10 and she will not go to the house, 04:12 because in India, on the roadside, 04:13 there will be a garbage place to put all the- 04:18 - It's like a garbage dump along the side of the road. 04:20 - Oh okay, okay, we'll start there. 04:23 So there were two boys, 04:27 that story is kind of when you- 04:29 - This is her two boys? 04:31 - Two boys, two boys, 04:33 and no father, 04:36 alive but we don't know where he is. 04:39 The mother mentally depressed 04:42 and always she will sleep the roadside near the garbage. 04:48 - Did she have a home at all? 04:50 - She has a home but nobody's- 04:53 - She won't go there? 04:54 - No, she don't go. 04:55 - So how were these boys surviving 04:57 if she's in this kind of condition? 04:59 - Always on the road, one boy, one side, 05:03 one boy, one side, 05:05 covering the sari 05:08 - With the cloth like a woman would wear. 05:10 - Woman wear. 05:11 So they go to sleep. 05:13 Whatever the food they throw on the road, eat. 05:16 - [Jeff] Oh, that's terrible. 05:18 - Then, one officer, one government officer 05:22 saw these two boys. 05:24 And when they came to our home they were just like- 05:27 - Did the officer try to have them come to our boys home? 05:31 - Yes because immediately- 05:33 - That says something, doesn't it, 05:34 that he respects us? 05:36 - Respect us 05:37 because there are government run orphanages, 05:40 but he likes our orphanage so he called Moses, 05:44 the director of our orphanage, he called, 05:48 and here, there are two boys on the road. 05:51 Can you do something? 05:53 So they came and with a team, 05:56 Moses and a few people came and took, 05:59 and today for your information, 06:02 whoever comes to our campus, any lady officer, 06:07 supposed a lady officer come, 06:09 they come with a sari. 06:11 - And for our viewers, 06:13 a sari is like an Indian lady's dress. 06:15 It's like a tapestry that they put over them, 06:18 over their shoulder. 06:19 - Over their shoulder. 06:20 These two boys will run and one will go to one side, 06:25 one will go to another side and take the sari 06:28 and they will cover like that. 06:30 And first, the officer will get kind of 06:33 what these boys are doing. 06:35 But psychologically, these two boys affected with the mother 06:41 sleeping on the road 06:44 and whoever comes, the tuition teacher, evening, 06:48 the music teacher, the graph teacher, 06:51 they will come to our campus, 06:54 immediately, these boys will go. 06:56 Even Ruby, my wife, whenever she goes, 07:00 immediately, they will take the sari and. 07:04 - So they're still doing this 07:05 'cause of an emotional attachment 07:07 because of their situation with their mom? 07:09 This is after they came to our orphanage and such? 07:11 - After they came. 07:12 And now they are, 07:13 now they are almost, 07:15 I think if I'm not wrong, 07:16 one is nine years old and when is eight years old 07:20 and they are, for your information, 07:24 in the school, they are in the first rank. 07:27 In the sports, they are first, 07:29 in education, they are first. 07:30 - So they're doing really well. 07:31 All the kids, 07:32 the boys that come to our boys home, 07:34 get an Adventist education 07:36 at a fairly large Adventist school there 07:39 and we had a little minivan 07:41 and we were packing all these boys into this little minivan, 07:44 taking 'em to school every day, 07:45 pick 'em up and bring 'em back to the orphanage. 07:47 - You are right, you are right. 07:49 And so for your information, 07:51 the question you asked, how the orphanage, 07:54 because we were doing television, we are doing evangelism, 07:58 we are doing lot of publishing things, 08:01 but how come the concept came? 08:03 The concept is from the biblical concept. 08:06 And we saw on the road, because we are, even myself, 08:10 go door to door evangelism, not now, 08:14 now also I'm going, but now I'm only focusing 08:17 my church (indistinct). 08:18 - Yeah, you're doing more administrative work. 08:21 - Yes, so in those days, I go every day, whole half a day 08:24 so I know on the road. 08:26 So I know the situation there 08:29 so the concept developed and we had a place, 08:33 then I took you to the place. 08:35 And first, "Johnson, do you think it is possible?" 08:39 I said, "It is it possible." 08:41 "Okay, we will start." 08:42 Then we had a future. 08:43 - You know me, I'm always cautious. 08:45 - You are because you are always very careful. 08:48 - When we're dealing with donors money, 08:49 we want to be really careful. 08:51 - Yeah because you don't, you never say yes immediately. 08:55 - So how did we come across this building? 08:57 We had a really nice building there just sitting empty. 08:59 - Yeah, it is real empty and already there is a church 09:04 and the building was empty then I took you to the building. 09:08 Then you saw it, this is good. 09:10 Then you told, "Okay Johnson, we'll start immediately." 09:13 Then, we purchased some beds. 09:15 - And we had somebody 09:16 just give us this land and this building. 09:19 There was a doctor who had, 09:21 he was actually a Tamil doctor at one time 09:23 and had a burden for trying to do something there, 09:25 built the building. 09:26 He'd never, you told me he never came to India 09:29 and he just wanted to do something 09:31 in the area he came from originally, right? 09:33 - The place where we have orphanage is his native place, 09:37 but he came to US, has very long back. 09:41 Then after purchasing the property, 09:43 we want to build a church. 09:45 So that time, we were searching the donor. 09:48 So then he- 09:51 - He stepped up to the plate, we say. 09:52 - Please. 09:53 Then, first time he came 09:54 for the inauguration of that building and he was so happy. 09:59 - [Jeff] Oh, he did come for that? 10:01 - For the inauguration, he came. 10:02 - And he finally, he passed away, I remember, 10:05 but the orphanage is actually in an honor to him 10:11 because he's the one that really 10:13 paid for the church to be built 10:15 and for the building to be built and such. 10:18 And it had been sitting for quite a while. 10:20 So after we moved in there, 10:22 remember the inspectors came and such 10:23 and we had to do a lot of remodeling 10:25 and get everything up to code but they, 10:29 the government people, who were pretty hard 10:31 on people who run orphanages, 10:34 what were they saying about ours? 10:35 They said, it's a model or something like that? 10:38 - The local collector, 10:39 collector is kind of a head in the whole entire district, 10:44 he invited Moses and gave an award. 10:47 - Moses is our director for the orphanage. 10:49 And he was an orphan himself 10:51 who ended up getting an education 10:52 and business degree and such 10:53 and now he's the director of our orphanage. 10:55 His wife's name is? 10:58 - Sonia. 10:58 - Sonia, yeah. - Sonia, Sonia. 11:01 So then the government gave a award 11:03 and some money to the children. 11:06 - Wow, that's unheard of. 11:08 - Yeah, so in that whole area, 11:10 our orphanage, by God's grace, 11:13 we were some struggles 11:16 because we didn't have enough facility in those days. 11:20 Then slowly, we were developed. 11:23 But today, by God's grace, 11:26 we have a facility 11:27 and we are providing good education, Adventist education, 11:32 Adventist lifestyle, Adventist food. 11:36 - And we're teaching the kids responsibility. 11:38 - [Johnson] Responsibility. 11:39 - They have chores they do and they, 11:42 they have animals they take care of too, don't they? 11:44 Like goats and chickens? - Yes, yes. 11:47 - And our orphanage is out kind of in the country. 11:50 I just want to quickly just share just a little story. 11:53 Before you and I ever talked about orphanages, 11:56 and it was way back in the mid-1990s 12:00 just when I first actually started working with you, 12:02 I was with a gentleman by the name of Bill Dull 12:05 and we were traveling through India. 12:07 And Bill have given his whole life to India 12:10 for 40 years I think, something like that. 12:13 But we stopped and saw an orphanage. 12:16 And I'll tell you, I was just shocked 12:18 'cause we went in there 12:18 and these orphan children, 12:20 they were ages between like eight and 14 years of age, 12:24 the guy was making them be slave laborers for him 12:28 and he had a textile business 12:30 where he had these big huge looms 12:31 and they were making cotton tapestries 12:35 and things like that. 12:36 And they had a simple bamboo bed on solid concrete 12:40 and they were given some white rice 12:42 and maybe a piece of fish 12:43 and he was just using them for slave labor 12:46 under the guise of an orphanage. 12:47 And I was really thankful 12:49 to see that the Indian government finally stepped in 12:51 and started shutting places like that down. 12:53 When I left that place, I was angry. 12:55 I was like somebody needs to do something with this guy 12:59 'cause he was like, you could tell, abusive to the kids. 13:01 If they didn't jump when he said jump, 13:03 he would hit 'em and stuff. 13:04 And what do you do? 13:05 You're a foreigner. 13:06 And so I always said, 13:07 if we ever have an orphanage, we're gonna have a loving, 13:11 we're gonna create a loving home environment. 13:13 And basically that's what we've done, right? 13:15 - Yeah, yeah. 13:15 It is 100% because morning, 13:19 they will get up like at 5:30, then worship. 13:23 Then they have to do some work in the area, 13:26 in the campus, and then they will get ready, 13:28 then they will have a morning breakfast, 13:32 it is Ellen White principle, 13:35 it is not too much, but it is very systematically. 13:39 Then, they have a van. 13:42 - A little minivan. 13:44 - [Johnson] Minivan. 13:45 - We had one student that needed to come and you said, 13:47 "We can't fit another student in the van." 13:49 - Yes, it is because when we started, 13:51 we started with six, seven small kids. 13:55 - That's always been the principle, 13:56 how Laymen Ministries works. 13:58 We always start small 13:59 and then as God blesses, 14:01 we allow it to be enabled to grow. 14:05 - And now, because almost we have 26 now girls come, 14:09 it will be, so now we, by God's grace, 14:13 we have purchased a bus. 14:16 - Yeah, it's a regular, big bus 14:18 'cause we're gonna talk about the girls orphanage 14:21 in just a second 'cause that's something that's kind of new. 14:23 But one of the things I was kind of curious about is that 14:28 one time I, when we came to India, 14:29 I went and I tried to find out the stories 14:32 of where some of these orphan children came from 14:35 because I wanted to validate 14:38 that these kids were coming from needy situations. 14:40 And there was one young boy who, 14:44 this is just kind of what happens in India, 14:45 that his father was a professional coconut tree climber. 14:49 And remember he climbed up in this one tree 14:51 and he fell out and landed on the power lines 14:53 and he was electrocuted and died. 14:55 - Yeah. 14:56 - Only for the mother to come home 14:57 with her three children, 14:59 a daughter who couldn't come to our school, 15:01 our orphanage 'cause she was female at the time 15:04 and we only had a boys home, 15:05 and her two sons 15:06 got ran out of the village by the villagers 15:08 so they could steal all of her possessions 15:10 and her husband's possessions. 15:11 And she was, had, was on the street with no place to go. 15:15 And she had two boys in our orphanage? 15:18 - Yes. - Right, but we didn't have 15:20 a girl's home at that time 15:21 so she had to accommodate for the girl. 15:23 That's just kind of the things that happened. 15:25 But you refer to those orphan boys as semi-orphans. 15:29 Explain to our viewers what a semi-orphan is. 15:33 - There are two things. 15:34 The semi-orphan, maybe the father may be there or mother, 15:40 so maybe like we have a orphans- 15:44 - [Jeff] Mother and father both dead. 15:46 - Both dead, then semi-orphan, it's maybe one, 15:50 maybe mother alive or father. 15:51 - But they're not capable of being able, 15:53 like this one lady who is on the, 15:55 you were talking about on the roadside by the garbage, 15:58 she wasn't capable 16:00 of taking care of her boys. - She's capable of it now. 16:01 Even now she's there, 16:03 but she don't know whether the son is alive, 16:06 she cannot come to the home and no so it is. 16:11 - I know we needed, 16:12 because of the fact that we had chickens 16:14 and we bought some goats and we have kind of, 16:16 we feel like the kids being involved 16:17 with agriculture and farming is really healthy for 'em. 16:20 But we took in one lady 16:24 because we needed somebody to help take care of animals 16:25 and she was already experienced in doing this 16:28 and she had nowhere to go and she had a young boy. 16:31 Do you remember the story with this young boy 16:33 when Moses was talking to him about his father, 16:37 what he said? 16:39 - Yes, the boy, name is Tamil Silvan. 16:44 But the father, after the first delivery of this boy, 16:51 the father left the mother and got another marriage 16:56 and another marriage. 16:58 And as a result, another marriage- 17:00 - So he just kind of abandoned his wife and the children 17:03 and ran off with another woman basically 17:04 is what you're saying. 17:06 - And also, the whole family, they said, "You go." 17:09 - [Jeff] So how did this affect that boy? 17:11 - Because this boy was, because nobody's there, 17:14 because he cannot go to see the grandma, 17:17 the village, his friends, they were all throwing stones. 17:22 And so this boy- 17:23 - For us in the West, it's hard to understand 17:25 some of the things that go on in India. 17:27 - Yes. 17:28 And this boy, 17:31 this small boy, 17:33 now he's 13 years old. 17:35 When he came home, he was 10 years old. 17:37 He decided, if I see my dad, I will kill him and I will- 17:44 - I remember Moses was shocked to hear a young boy say, 17:46 "I'm gonna kill my father." 17:48 "Why?" 17:49 "Because he abandoned us 17:50 and we're in this situation because of him." 17:52 - Situation. 17:53 And because he's there and his brother is there, two, 17:59 and mother standing on the road, no house and nothing. 18:05 - [Jeff] He felt abandoned. 18:07 - Abandoned so he want to kill. 18:10 But that place, he, Moses accidentally saw this family 18:16 and then Moses also need one caretaker. 18:21 So she came and now the son is very active. 18:25 You see the picture? 18:25 - [Jeff] 'Cause his attitude changed. 18:27 - [Johnson] Yeah, his attitude changed. 18:28 - [Jeff] What is he like now? 18:29 - Now he's very attitude, his character change, 18:34 he's studying very nice. 18:36 And now if you ask him, he said, 18:38 "I want to be the pastor." 18:41 - [Jeff] Want to be what? 18:42 - I want to go to (indistinct) Memorial. 18:44 - [Jeff] Oh and be a pastor? 18:45 - Pastor, yeah. 18:46 - And his bitterness towards his father is gone now? 18:50 - [Johnson] Now gone. 18:51 - I remember when I first came to that orphanage 18:54 and we just started, 18:55 the bathrooms were outside way down at the end. 18:58 And when it got to be rainy season, 19:01 the boys would have to get up in the middle of the night 19:04 and go down there and use the bathroom. 19:05 Cobras, cobra snakes would go in those bathrooms. 19:09 And so we chiseled out a place in the building 19:12 and we put indoor bathrooms in. 19:14 - Indoor bathrooms. 19:15 And now we have over 15 bathrooms in there. 19:18 - [Johnson] Wow, praise God. 19:19 - So and a good water tank. 19:21 - You know, one of the things that really bothered me, 19:23 and people would call our ministry and say, 19:25 "Jeff, why do you just have a boys home? 19:28 How come you can't have girls?" 19:29 And I was saying, 19:30 "'Cause the government's become really strict 19:32 about having boys and girls mingled together 19:34 and having men nurturing and taking care of the girls." 19:39 Because there'd been a lot of abuse that's happened in India 19:42 and there's a lot of abuse that's happened around the world 19:44 with orphans in general. 19:46 And so the girls have to be in a complete separate facility, 19:49 separate cafeteria, you know, separate courtyard, 19:53 separate everything, 19:54 separate common wall that divides the property. 19:56 And so you and I talked about this and we finally agreed, 19:59 let's go ahead and build, but then COVID hit. 20:03 And what kind of problems did we run into? 20:05 - So then COVID came so we were not able, 20:09 the contractor- 20:10 - [Jeff] Couldn't get in there. 20:11 - Get in there. 20:12 And also the cement. 20:15 - [Jeff] The what? 20:16 - The cement. 20:17 - [Jeff] Oh, the cement. 20:18 - Cement and the sand and the iron, 20:21 everything rate became double. 20:23 The quotation which the contractor gave, 20:27 the quotation I gave to you is different. 20:31 - Then what really happened. 20:32 - Happened, because you are here, I am there. 20:35 The contractor is in one place so it is very hard. 20:39 Then the building permission. 20:42 - Meanwhile, we were having dirt hauled in. 20:46 And the reason we were having dirt hauled in 20:47 is because this place floods sometimes. 20:50 And so we had to build everything up about three feet. 20:53 And so we were kind of trying to do what we could do 20:55 to get a building, but then finally what happened? 20:57 - Finally, rain came, water, full water there, 21:01 the contractor not able to do the work. 21:03 - [Jeff] Was it 'cause of the cyclone? 21:04 - Cyclone. 21:05 - [Jeff] Oh yeah, I remember, 21:06 the pictures I saw, that were just flooded 21:09 and we had the building just started. 21:10 - [Johnson] Yes and it is very. 21:13 - [Jeff] It's like building a girls orphanage 21:15 in a swimming pool. 21:16 - Swimming. 21:18 And suppose tomorrow, when you come and see, 21:20 "Oh, Johnson, you did, what is this?" 21:23 So all these kind of a fear, but above all, the divine hand, 21:30 like Ellen White says, 21:31 "Beyond all this scenery, 21:32 the heavenly hand is working on the one way." 21:35 When the time came, everything was very successfully 21:39 and we have inaugurated the orphanage 21:43 in the month of April 19. 21:47 - [Jeff] Painted and built and new desks 21:49 and I mean beds and storage areas. 21:52 It's beautiful facility that we built there. 21:55 - [Johnson] Yeah and the church. 21:56 - [Jeff] The only complaint I had was it's too small. 21:57 We should have built it a lot bigger 21:59 'cause I have a big vision of helping orphans in India. 22:02 - Yeah, it is a church, it came very nice 22:06 and then we fixed it tiles for the whole building, 22:09 the computer training center, everything. 22:12 - [Jeff] So what's happened now with the girls? 22:13 Have we started having girls come? 22:15 - The new school year just started this week 22:20 because every June. 22:21 So the license, so far we have for only boys. 22:26 So the license, the government will give next month. 22:30 - [Jeff] Next month. 22:31 - So most probably, we are already there 22:34 on the admission role. 22:36 - Have you started a selection process for girls? 22:37 - [Johnson] Yeah, we started the selection. 22:39 - Explain the selection process. 22:39 How does that work? 22:41 - They will contact Moses or myself. 22:44 Then whoever contact me, 22:46 I will tell you, "Contact Moses, here is a number." 22:51 Then Moses will ask them the information, 22:55 where they are, if there is any problem, what is that, 22:59 and all that, the family history, 23:02 like a history, whole history they will ask. 23:05 Then, Moses will study. 23:07 Then, if it is very near, Moses will go. 23:11 - See, you're really what you're doing 23:11 is you're going through an elimination process 23:13 to find the most needy and worthy young girls to come. 23:18 - What we are doing is right now, 23:21 mostly from four years old to 13 years, we have taken, 23:26 so first we thought, 23:28 when we decided to start the orphanage, 23:30 we'll take only the children, 23:32 kind of a four years, five years. 23:35 - [Jeff] Just the small children? 23:37 - Small children, but as the day goes, 23:38 like when government obviously recently came, 23:41 there is a young man he's almost like a 17 years old. 23:44 And Moses, he told Moses, 23:48 Moses, no father, no mother, 23:51 he so far four orphanage, he was there. 23:56 But in the four orphanage, he was not able to survive. 24:00 - Not able to what? 24:00 - [Johnson] Not able to stay there. 24:02 - Why? 24:03 - Because he's kind of a rough guy. 24:07 - [Jeff] And so did we take him in? 24:09 - So Moses, the officer said, "Moses, please." 24:13 But Moses said, "No sir, here are children, 24:16 this guy look very tough." 24:20 - [Jeff] Put him in with all these young children. 24:21 - All the young children. 24:22 Then the next day, the government officer came. 24:25 Then he, Moses asked me, 24:29 I said, "I don't know because you are handling. 24:32 If there is evangelism I can help! 24:34 This is, I cannot help." 24:36 - You're not an orphanage director. 24:37 - Not the orphanage. 24:38 So you pray on that, I will also pray. 24:42 Then, the government, two, three officers came together. 24:47 They came, "Moses, you have to help, 24:48 otherwise this guy have no place." 24:52 Then, Moses give the place. 24:55 For your information, 24:57 now he is very active, 24:59 he's attending worship, 25:01 he's attending church. 25:02 - This young 17 year old boy, 25:03 rough boy is going to church? 25:05 - [Johnson] Yeah. 25:06 - And he's doing this 'cause he wants to? 25:07 - Yeah, he's doing okay now. 25:08 - Have you met him? 25:09 - Yes, I met him two, three times. 25:11 - And his attitude is different? 25:13 - Different. 25:13 First time, I saw him, then I asked Moses, 25:16 "What is this? 25:17 This guy will, I think he will spoil others." 25:20 - [Jeff] Too rough. 25:21 - Too rough. 25:22 Then pastor, he said, "Yes, pastor." 25:24 Then, second time, that guy came near to me. 25:27 "Hello pastor.", he asked. 25:30 And then, "Okay, you are okay?" 25:32 Then I called him, I gave a counsel, 25:35 "Toby, brother, you have to be very careful 25:40 and everyone is watching, be a good boy." 25:43 Then when I went for inauguration, 25:46 he came, "Pastor, good morning. 25:49 Do you need any help? 25:51 I can do help." 25:52 So the attitude changing. 25:53 Rhe first day, he was just standing like that. 25:56 The second time, he came very close. 25:59 Now, "Pastor, do you need any help?" 26:00 So the attitude is changing because in our orphanage, 26:05 the food style is, the food is- 26:09 - Is more hygienic and more plain. 26:10 - More plain. 26:12 The second, full of activities. 26:15 - Keeping him busy. 26:16 - Music class, computer class. 26:18 - And you know, there's something else, too. 26:20 And Moses and his wife, Sonia, 26:23 they wanted to have it 26:24 be like a boy's home and a girl's home literally, 26:28 to be like a mother and father to these kids. 26:30 And due to the fact that Moses himself 26:33 was raised as an orphan, 26:34 he can go to these children and identify with them 26:37 and he's such a loving guy. 26:39 He's a really conservative Christian fellow 26:41 who is not harsh and judgemental, 26:44 he's just really loving guy. 26:46 I mean, I think that's a key to the success 26:49 of a lot of things that have happened there. 26:51 - Yes, you are right, I agree. 26:53 - So what would be the date 26:54 that we'll actually start having girls 26:56 stay in our new facility? 26:58 - From August 15th. 27:01 - [Jeff] This coming up August? 27:02 - August is an Independence Day 27:04 so we will start after that. 27:06 - Anyhow, that's all the time we have. 27:08 We thank you for watching this episode of Laymen Ministries. 27:11 I would encourage you to go to our website 27:14 at www.lmn.org. 27:18 And on that website, you can subscribe to our magazines, 27:21 the Laymen Ministries Journals, 27:23 lot of mission stories, 27:24 there's always a lead article 27:26 that's designed for lay people, 27:27 like this magazine here is called, 27:30 "Lost Days of the Rapture and the Jesuits", 27:32 very interesting article, 27:34 "The New Normal from a Christian Perspective", 27:37 "Follow the Science", 27:38 this is about the world's largest waterfall. 27:41 These articles, the lead articles for these magazines 27:43 are found on our website 27:44 and you can download 'em as a PDF file 27:46 or you can just get on our mailing list. 27:47 These magazines are free of charge 27:50 and you can go to our website again at lmn.org. 27:55 Pastor Johnson, as always, 27:56 it's really wonderful to have you visiting us here 27:58 in cold Northern Idaho. 28:01 - Thank you, sir. 28:02 - I'm looking forward to next fall coming to India, 28:05 actually, probably gonna be early spring 2023 28:08 that we'll be coming and start shooting videos again. 28:11 So now thank you for watching and god bless. 28:14 (inspiring music) |
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