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00:30 (slow music) 00:35 - We're glad you could join us 00:36 with the new episode of Layman Ministries. 00:38 We have Dr. Johnson visiting from India. 00:40 He's a longtime friend and worker, 00:43 co-worker together in India. 00:45 And we've been talking 00:47 about some of the different things 00:48 going on with our projects in Southern India. 00:49 But today we're gonna focus 00:51 on our television ministry and pastor Johnson, 00:54 I don't think people realize 00:55 how powerful this media is and years ago, 00:59 oh, I can't remember how long ago it was. 01:02 We talked about starting a television ministry 01:05 and Layman Ministries actually is the pioneer. 01:08 - It's a pioneering in Indian church history, 01:12 Southern Asia history. 01:14 - When did we first started making television programs? 01:16 Do you remember? 01:16 - We started in 2002. 01:18 - 2002. 01:19 - Two February. 01:21 - And as we mentioned in one of our other programs, 01:23 we had a lot of problems 01:24 when we first got started, 01:25 not so much with the presentations 01:27 or the topics or the content, 01:29 but with the fact that we had 01:31 to hire out studio time 01:33 and that turned to be a major problem, 01:36 because if you did the television program 01:39 at a certain like, Christian based television ministry, 01:43 and you started touching on certain topics, 01:45 they would get kind of nervous. 01:47 And then if you go to a secular place, 01:49 they say, you have to be here at this time 01:50 and you have to only one hour and a half 01:52 to try to do your video shoot. 01:54 And if something went wrong 01:55 and the person had to start over again, 01:57 then they either didn't finish the program 02:00 or you had to come back 02:01 and reschedule and pay more money. 02:03 So what was our remedy for this problem? 02:06 - I was telling you then whenever I came here, 02:10 I record for the six months program. 02:13 You remember the first time we recorded 02:15 almost 28 program, 02:17 then the second time I recorded 64 program. 02:21 - I remember you were kind of looking 02:23 at the studio and here and you were saying, 02:26 'sir, why can't we build one of these in India?' 02:29 - India. 02:30 - And by the way, 02:31 when he first started shooting 02:32 his Tamil language programs in our studio, 02:35 people were coming to him and saying, 02:38 where's your really fancy office at, you know, 02:40 cause we had a really nice set here 02:41 that looked like an office, 02:42 but anyhow, so what ended up happening. 02:44 - Then after that we were sharing, starting a studio, 02:48 building a studio in the city of Chennai 02:52 so that we can produce a different kinds of program, 02:55 the music, the doctrinal, the prophecy, 02:58 no, I mean, we don't need to worry 03:00 about the timing only we can produce 03:03 whatever the program. 03:04 So at the end we were able to build a studio 03:06 in the city of Chennai. 03:07 - Yeah and how long ago now has the studio 03:10 been up right there? 03:11 - This studio it's over nine years. 03:13 - And we have young men 03:14 that are really talented and capable 03:16 helping us with building sets and shooting video. 03:18 And they've been doing quite a bit of production. 03:22 One of the things I was wondering 03:23 is where are we today 03:25 as far as our video production 03:27 and how is it going out in different ways? 03:31 - Our studio is very busy by God's grace 03:34 because you have helped us to build a studio, 03:38 purchase the property and build a studio equipment. 03:42 And we have to be very cautious. 03:45 So today we are producing 03:47 for our weekly television program. 03:52 Then we are producing program 03:53 for our social media 03:55 because we are focusing in the social media, 04:00 missionary life and the health and Bible character. 04:06 So we are producing many program 04:08 and also we are focusing 04:09 four language program we are producing in our studio. 04:12 - And some of our programs 04:16 we're presenting straight three angels messages too. 04:18 - You are right. 04:20 - The straight truths of the scripture. 04:22 - Yes, because pastor Shadrach, 04:25 one of the leading evangelists in our church, 04:28 he focused on the doctrinal base and it is a very. 04:33 - He's a powerful speaker. 04:35 - Yes. 04:36 - He's so soft and articulate 04:37 on how he presents his subjects. 04:39 - Yes. 04:40 - The question I always wondered, you know, 04:41 we built this studio and we are on several different 04:45 satellite networks and cable networks. 04:47 People really watching our programs. 04:49 - Definitely of course. 04:50 Imagine the first our program, 04:54 we were in Raj TV. 04:55 It is one of the leading satellite channel in 2002. 04:59 - Is it English or Tamil? 05:01 - It is in Tamil language 05:02 - Okay. 05:03 - And then we were in Vijay TV, Star Vijay. 05:05 It is one of the satellite channel. 05:07 The footprint is almost goes 05:10 to the middle east and Asia. 05:13 Then we were in Jaya TV almost. 05:15 We were in 10 years, no. 05:18 - Over 10, longer than that. 05:19 - Longer than that, 05:20 it is belongs to a political party 05:24 and it is not easy, 6:30 to 7:00. 05:27 - But no problems with them? 05:29 - No problem with that. 05:30 And they have, it is very good reach we had. 05:35 - You know, I'm sure somebody's probably thinking, 05:38 well, that all sounds nice here 05:39 on these big satellite networks 05:41 and cable connections and people could watch it overseas, 05:45 but how do you know people 05:46 are really watching the programs? 05:48 I mean, that's the question that anybody 05:50 that's in television, 05:51 like how do we know? 05:53 I mean, it's not like you can, 05:54 click on a button on the TV set and say like, 05:58 you know, like they do on Facebook. 05:59 - Yeah. 06:01 - So how do you know people are actually watching? 06:02 - It is very simple elder. 06:04 The point is television channel. 06:07 They have a competition 06:08 because in India over a 600 TV channels. 06:14 So it is very competition. 06:16 Suppose now we are in a Velicham TV. 06:22 - Prime time slot. 06:22 - Yeah, we are in prime time. 06:25 We are in light TV. 06:28 So in that TV, 06:30 we were in 7:00 to 7:30 06:33 suppose if in that time, 06:36 if people are not watching the TRP rate, 06:40 that is a television rating given 06:43 by information broadcasting ministry. 06:48 So they are the one who approving. 06:49 So if there is no TRP rating, 06:52 they will tell this channel has no good. 06:56 You got idea. 06:57 - Yeah, I got it so what he is basically saying 07:00 is that, you know, different programs are rated. 07:02 And if you have poor ratings 07:04 and you're in a primetime slot 07:06 and people aren't watching, 07:08 that means it affects the networks advertising 07:12 for that section. 07:12 - Advertise, you are right. 07:14 - But if your programs really being watched a lot, 07:15 then they're gonna keep you there 07:17 because it helps them 07:18 to promote their advertising, 07:19 which is the way they support their networks. 07:21 But more than that, 07:23 do you have people contacting the ministry? 07:25 I mean, what kind of effect is this 07:26 having personally with people? 07:27 - Okay, this is one thing. 07:29 This is the thing is about the television rating. 07:32 - The rating system. 07:34 - Rating is that is one 07:35 in a commercial world we are talking. 07:37 The secondly people call us in prayer 07:41 because we have a prayer line 24/7 07:46 in Kodambakkam church. 07:48 We have the number. 07:50 - So people calling in from the program. 07:52 - Yeah, people call and also we have 07:54 four Bible workers, the elderly Bible worker. 07:58 - Almost like semi-retired workers. 08:01 - Yes. 08:02 They're not able to walk 08:03 maybe too much or something. 08:04 - Oh, so you have them stationed 08:06 to answer phone calls. 08:07 - Phone calls, and not only answering, 08:09 they have to morning, 08:10 they have to come nine o'clock 08:12 and they will stay there. 08:14 Pray for various need, pray for the world, 08:17 pray for the revival and the church. 08:18 - This is a great way to have some 08:20 of our senior Bible workers who in retirement age. 08:23 - Yes. 08:24 - To continue in ministry. 08:26 And it's actually really good 08:27 because they're the ones 08:28 that know their Bibles the very best. 08:29 - Yeah. 08:30 - Because they were Bible workers for years. 08:32 So when people call up and they have a question, 08:34 about the Sabbath or something like that, 08:36 they can answer. 08:37 But you have any examples of things 08:39 that have happened where the Bible workers 08:41 have interfaced with some of these programs. 08:44 - Yes recently, even recently what happened, 08:47 it is in 2022 in the month of February, 08:53 one person called in the morning 08:56 and they were non-Christian 08:59 and they were actually, 09:01 they were very close to our, 09:02 in the central part of Chennai, 09:06 they were very close and they called 09:08 and the lady was crying. 09:12 Then the Bible worker gave my number 09:16 and then they called me and crying. 09:19 Then I asked her what happened? 09:21 Then she said, my husband is not feeling well. 09:26 And the whole family and depend upon him. 09:29 He has to do work. 09:31 Otherwise we have no food. 09:32 We cannot pay a rent. 09:34 - If he's sick and he can't provide for the family. 09:36 - Yes, then I asked what happened 09:38 then it is he's talking, 09:41 he's not sleeping properly. 09:43 He's talking and talking 09:45 something about people who died in the past. 09:48 Then we found out it is a Demon possesed. 09:51 - Oh, sorry. 09:52 He was more than just depressed. 09:53 But he was actually being Demon harassed or something. 09:55 - Demon, yes. 09:56 And also they have taken to the hospitals 09:59 the doctor gave a medicine, 10:00 but it is not working. 10:01 They went to many places for. 10:05 - Let's talk just don't lose your train of thought 10:08 where you're at in the story. 10:09 - Okay. 10:10 - But the one question people always ask 10:11 is why is there so much of this kind of stuff in India? 10:14 We don't see it in America. 10:15 Truth is it happens in America, 10:16 but we always just write it off as a mental problem. 10:21 You know, they have psychiatric problems or something, 10:23 but you and I have witnessed 10:25 more than once Demon possession. 10:27 And I remember one time I was visiting a church. 10:30 - Yes. 10:31 - And our cameraman Michael was running this 10:32 and he was just running the camera 10:34 and a lady came in and was trying to 10:36 almost attack after Shadrach. 10:38 - Yeah. 10:40 - And he called on the name of the Lord 10:41 and yeah it was a frightening thing 10:44 to see happen. 10:45 And it's because there's so much spiritualism, 10:47 I think in India that you see a lot more outward activity. 10:52 So back to the story 10:53 about the guy that's having Demon possession problem. 10:55 - So they have taken to the hospital, 10:57 they have taken to different places, 10:59 but it was not working. 11:00 So I said, don't worry. 11:02 I will send the Bible workers immediately. 11:04 Two Bible workers, Devora, Acknes they went to the home 11:10 and they prayed, 11:11 but it is not listening. 11:12 It is not meant that guy is name is Money Hendon. 11:16 - His what? 11:18 - His name is Money Heden. 11:19 - Oh, okay. 11:20 - He's not listening to the Bible workers 11:23 because when they started to pray, 11:25 he is shouting and. 11:27 - The Demon activity started. 11:30 - So then they informed us. 11:34 Then we told the Bible workers, 11:36 okay, come to the church, we all pray. 11:40 So took a fasting and prayed over two hours. 11:44 - Prayed over two hours. 11:45 - Two hours. 11:46 - And the Demon just went away. 11:47 - Yeah and even when we were praying, 11:49 he stood up and he started to preaching to us. 11:53 You can see the picture I have said, 11:56 because when we were praying, 11:57 he started to stand and holding the Bible. 11:59 And in the Bible, he's telling everything 12:02 as though, even sometimes we don't know, 12:05 but he's telling everything 12:06 from the Bible that guy never know about Bible, 12:11 but he's telling everything. 12:12 - Well, after all this, did he become normal? 12:15 - No when we were praying the whole Bible workers, 12:21 we were all praying. 12:22 That guy stood and hold the Bible like that. 12:27 And he started to tell about Bible 12:31 about what happened in the Bible 12:32 and all that one he is telling. 12:35 The reason is it will pretend 12:39 when you pray more, 12:41 it will pretend, the devil will pretend. 12:44 - The devil will what? 12:45 - Devil will kind of. 12:47 - Get agitated or.? 12:49 - Not agitating. 12:50 It will show, oh, I'm not a devil. 12:53 I'm a guy who know Bible. 12:55 - So this is kind of like the story 12:57 that Jesus said that in order 12:59 to cast out certain demons like this, 13:01 it takes much prayer and fasting. 13:03 Remember the words of Christ? 13:04 - Yes, yes. 13:05 Because it will, when you see very soft way, 13:10 like very soft. 13:11 it'll talk Jesus days. 13:14 So we will think 13:15 that the demo has gone 13:17 so we can close the prayer 13:20 and we can go . 13:21 - Move forward. 13:22 - No, no. 13:23 - It didn't happen that way. 13:24 It will happen. 13:24 - So what happened? 13:25 - So then after that, we were again, 13:27 praying then holding Bible in his head 13:29 and everybody praying. 13:31 Then at the end, I will not go. 13:36 She, the devil said, 13:37 no, you have to go now , then slowly. 13:41 Then it went now the following week, 13:43 they have taken a baptism. 13:45 Now they are attending in the church. 13:47 - And is he normal now? 13:48 - Yes. It's not normal. 13:50 - So this is not something 13:52 that's a psychiatric problem. 13:54 This is something that after the demon left, 13:56 then his whole personality and everything changed 13:59 back to normal the way he used to be. 14:01 Is he able to provide for his family now take? 14:03 - Well, he will come to the church on Saturday 14:05 and work on Sunday 14:08 and he's giving ties and offering. 14:10 And he's very active and very energetic now. 14:13 The whole family is very happy now. 14:14 - Yeah. You know, we always tell people 14:16 that television can go where no man can go 14:20 because it can be late at night. 14:21 Somebody's having distress, 14:22 a lot of problems in their life. 14:24 They maybe contemplating suicide, 14:26 which we deal with a lot 14:27 with the prayer hotline, 14:28 they start changing the channels 14:31 and crying like that. 14:32 And they come across one of our programs. 14:33 We would never have the opportunity 14:35 to meet that person and come close to that person 14:39 in just regular life. 14:40 - You are right. 14:41 - But the television allows us 14:43 to enter right into a person's home, 14:44 right into their own personal space, 14:46 right into their own personal problem. 14:49 - The major emphasis I'm here I want to share 14:53 is television still, I mean, 14:56 those social media, other things are taking lead, 15:01 but like in the villages, 15:04 remote area where internet is very, 15:06 not very speed and dark. 15:09 - But people have TV, antennas. 15:10 - TV, antenna, and the elder. 15:12 - I've seen like little grass shack with a dirt floor. 15:15 - Yes. 15:16 - And they have a TV antenna. 15:17 - And also the eldest, 15:19 they don't like to watch in the small one 15:21 like this and that, and people focus. 15:25 So television is a powerful 15:27 and also other television, 15:29 the Layman ministry, we are in cable also, 15:31 but that all small thing, 15:33 but we are in two major network. 15:38 The footprint is in the whole world action say. 15:44 - Yeah, you were saying, 15:45 and I know this for a fact too, 15:46 because people have communicated with me 15:48 that Tamil speaking people 15:49 living in Australia or in Singapore. 15:52 - Yes, or middle east. 15:54 - Malaysia. 15:55 - In America. 15:56 - They are contacting us with emails 15:58 and such and saying we've watched your programs. 16:00 And they're, it's amazing to me how television 16:03 can go into all these different homes 16:04 and just reach different people. 16:06 And we're basically have a footprint 16:08 around the world with satellite television. 16:10 How many languages are we doing right now? 16:13 - Right now we are in the television. 16:15 We are focusing two language Tamil and Telugu. 16:19 - Do we have any English language programs? 16:21 - English is a in the social media, 16:24 we are having. 16:25 - Okay cause we used to have a English language program 16:27 with good news television, I thought. 16:28 - Yes. 16:30 - But I think Covid kind of slowed that down. 16:32 - Yes, yeah. Slowed down. 16:33 - Can you just kind of share 16:35 with our viewers about how the whole system works? 16:37 Every video we make, 16:39 we always share this, but it's a a foolproof system 16:42 that works that God has blessed. 16:43 How do the Bible workers, 16:45 the TV programs, the literature, 16:46 and all that fit together in a package? 16:48 - That is a blessing of this television evangelism, 16:51 because this is sowing the seed to every homes, 16:58 wherever it is going then after sowing the seed, 17:01 when the people call will take the address 17:04 and will see where the many calls are coming. 17:07 Suppose like from this place 17:10 where many people are calling like 2,500 people 17:13 are calling every week like that, then okay. 17:16 We have a evangelistic meeting there. 17:19 - So sometimes you have like a lot of people calling 17:21 from certain areas. 17:23 That's interesting. 17:24 - So that's why we will choose the place. 17:26 Okay, here we will go there. 17:29 - So the Bible workers start working 17:31 that area two by two. 17:32 - Start working that area two by two, 17:33 then they will say, okay, 17:35 we are coming from this television program. 17:37 - When the people answer the door 17:39 and they say that the people 17:41 know who they are then. 17:42 - Yes. 17:43 - Wow. 17:44 - Yeah, that is a blessing. 17:45 - So that shows that people are really watching. 17:46 - Really watching. 17:47 We know about that program and all that. 17:49 So then after that, 17:51 after the evangelistic meeting, 17:53 then what we'll do, 17:54 we'll start a church, temporary church. 17:57 Then after one year, 17:58 the church will become a permanent then. 18:00 - So we actually buy some property and build. 18:02 - Property and build a church. 18:04 - In this system we have with the Bible workers 18:06 and also with people sending out literature. 18:08 How many churches do you estimate 18:10 that since we've been working in India 18:12 for 25, 30 years, how many churches? 18:15 Any rough idea? 18:17 - The thing is we have started 18:20 over as 60 churches. 18:22 - Six zero? 18:23 - Six zero, 60 Churches because of this system 18:26 with our television ministry and with our Bible 18:28 and we have 60 Bible workers, right? 18:30 - Yes, 60 Bible workers. 18:32 - It's funny, we've been 60 churches and 60 Bible workers. 18:35 - Bible workers. 18:36 But you have to understand one thing 18:38 since if you calculate, since 2000, 18:41 if you calculate how many towns and villages 18:45 we handed that is more than three to 400 places. 18:49 - Wow. 18:50 - We have entered. 18:51 But the problem is in some places 18:54 we were not able to start a temporary church. 18:59 We were not because the place is very expensive, 19:03 then we cannot do anything. 19:04 So honestly, this number is only a small number, but. 19:09 - Is a fraction. 19:10 - Yeah, but we have entered into the most 19:16 of the villages and towns, 19:18 particularly in the Northern part of Tamil Nadu 19:21 that is Chennai, Chinglepet, 19:24 Tiruvallur all that area. 19:27 We have entered each. 19:29 So it will go hundreds of villages in time. 19:32 - You know, in our studio, 19:33 we have these young men and they're really talented. 19:36 And I tell them they're kind of geeky, you know, 19:39 they're techy guys. 19:41 And I'm attracted to those kind of people 19:43 because I like techy stuff myself. 19:46 But they have been really encouraging us 19:49 for a long time to get involved 19:51 with YouTube and social media. 19:52 And we know that this is a way to reach younger people. 19:56 And so what has our ministry done 19:57 in the way of like social media with YouTube and such? 20:00 And is it being successful at all? 20:03 - It is successful. 20:04 The reason is right now, 20:06 currently we are producing 20:09 in almost seven different kinds of program 20:13 for YouTube viewers. 20:16 It is a very short every day. 20:19 One of the school teacher Mrs. Sheba Apollo, 20:26 she's producing a very short three minutes program 20:28 to attract the young people. 20:31 Those who are working in. 20:32 - And we getting quite a few hits 20:33 on these YouTube videos. 20:35 - Yeah, it is. 20:36 - And this is on the YouTube channel 20:37 called Layman ministries, India, 20:39 but we actually have like 20:40 three or four YouTube channels, don't we? 20:42 - We have five YouTube channels. 20:45 - Five YouTube channles? 20:46 - Five YouTube channels. 20:47 The main YouTube channel called Laymen MTV. 20:51 - LMN Tv, huh? 20:53 - Laymen Ministry TV that is have a subscription 20:58 of over 23,000. 21:00 It is a good subscription because we have focused 21:03 only for Tamil. 21:04 Then Telugu program. 21:07 Then for Nepal language program, 21:10 then we have a prayer every day, 21:13 morning, afternoon, evening 21:15 that we call 365 prayer live. 21:23 That means only prayer we focus on that YouTube channel. 21:27 - And how does that work on a YouTube channel? 21:29 - That is morning, five to like. 21:31 - Is it like a live presentation? 21:32 - Yeah, live in the Zoom. 21:33 - And so people can get on their computer 21:36 and go to that YouTube channel 21:37 and join the prayer group. 21:39 - Yes. 21:40 - Interesting. 21:42 - It is in the smart phone also they can join. 21:44 So morning five to six. 21:45 We five o'clock we will have a prayer. 21:49 - Lot of church members too tuning into that? 21:52 - Lot of church members. 21:53 For your information from Sri Lanka, 21:55 people join from the Netherland, 21:56 many foreign countries they join. 21:58 - Wow, interesting. 21:59 - It is very people joined. 22:00 - You told me one time there 22:01 was like hundreds of people that come into that. 22:03 - Yes, yeah. 22:04 - It's a live channel. Live broadcast. 22:06 - Yeah, it is for prayer. 22:09 Then we have a only for evangelism activity. 22:13 It is a separate one 22:14 for evangelism meeting and all that. 22:17 We have a separate one for that. 22:19 So that means we are very active 22:23 in this social media. 22:25 And also we've a health tips. 22:27 We have a music. 22:28 We have a life-changing one. 22:31 We have a cyber school we are putting 22:32 so all that our studio, young people, 22:38 they are technician. 22:40 They are active in producing weekly television program 22:44 for TV, cyber school show, life changing, 22:48 everyday promise and a missionary story. 22:52 And there are a couple of program. 22:55 It is reached over half a million. 22:57 - You know, getting back to the question, 22:59 how do we know people are really watching? 23:01 There's other ways that we know too, 23:03 not only by the response and people asking 23:05 for literature, but like you said, 23:07 you've had situations where you're flying 23:09 up to New Delhi and you sit on the plane 23:11 and the person turns to you and says, 23:13 'oh, you're Dr. Johnson. 23:15 I've seen you on television.' 23:16 Or like one time I was flying 23:18 from Paris to Mumbai 23:21 and I was sitting next to Ellen G. White. 23:23 Yeah, I really, I was sitting next to Ellen G. White. 23:27 She was an Indian lady and her name was Ellen white. 23:30 - Okay. 23:31 - And I says, she asked where I was going 23:33 and what we do. 23:34 And I told her about projects in India. 23:37 'Oh, I watch programs all the time. 23:39 I'm familiar. 23:39 I know who Dr. Johnson is.' 23:41 And so that's another thing. 23:43 That's just kind of like a little indicator 23:44 that people are watching because every person 23:47 that contacts us represents a percentage 23:51 on a bigger basis of how many people 23:53 really watch the program. 23:55 And so that's pretty amazing to me 23:58 to watch the growth of this television ministry in India. 24:01 - Also, that is a powerful story recently happened. 24:05 - Oh, just recent story? 24:06 - Recent story, pastor Shadrach Samuel 24:08 is preaching in one of the leading satellite channel. 24:15 This is a Christian channel called Good news. 24:16 - Good news network. 24:17 - And he preach in English. 24:19 They translate into Telugu. 24:21 So actually we are in Tamil, English 24:25 and Telugu like that. 24:27 Anyway, the main thing, here it is. 24:30 He's Adi. His name is Adi. 24:34 He's a non-Christian. 24:36 And he had a business, very big business, 24:39 but there is a big story. 24:41 He lost everything because the story is in our magazine. 24:44 So he lost. 24:45 - Yeah, I think that was like the last issue 24:47 of our magazine. 24:49 If we'll talk about that 24:50 at the close of the program, but go ahead tell them. 24:53 - He lost everything. 24:54 He lost everything because of his partnership and all that. 24:58 And one day he was sitting in the home, 25:01 he don't know what to do. 25:02 And then he called his uncle who is in Chennai. 25:05 He's in Andhra Pradesh and he's in Chennai. 25:09 - His uncle's in Chennai. 25:10 - Chennai. 25:12 And so he called and what happened? 25:14 Why your voice is so not energetic? 25:18 What happened? 25:19 Then he said, 'Uncle I lost everything.' 25:22 Now, my family. 25:24 - Hundreds of thousands of dollars. 25:26 - Dollars, and my family, I have no respect. 25:30 And now I cannot leave. 25:32 Only I have to die. 25:33 - You're gonna commit suicide you think. 25:34 - Commit suicide. 25:36 And so I have no way. 25:37 Then he said, don't do it man. 25:40 I give a number. 25:42 You call him. 25:44 Then he called pastor Shadrach. 25:46 Then pastor Shadrach told you watch this TV program. 25:51 So he watched the program. 25:55 Then everybody asking in his village, 25:56 what happened now you are working energy. 25:57 What happened? 25:59 Yeah, now I found out there new God, 26:00 he's going to help me. 26:02 So everybody's making fun of him. 26:04 Did your new God did a miracle in your life? 26:07 You got a business or something? 26:10 So they were all making fun, 26:12 but he never gave up though sometime the holy spirit 26:19 lead people so they were strong in faith. 26:21 Sometime even we will be weak, 26:23 but they will be very strong 26:25 because the whole village is making fun of him. 26:28 But he was strong. 26:29 All it took almost for him over seven months. 26:34 - Wow. 26:35 - And slowly he was recovered. 26:36 Not completely, but he was. 26:38 - But he started getting his business back and doing. 26:41 - Back slowly. 26:42 Then he realized there is a God. 26:44 And what my uncle worshiping is a true God. 26:48 Uncle I have to take baptism. 26:50 Then they called pastor Shadrach. 26:53 Booked a train ticket. 26:55 Everything, went to the river and took a baptism. 27:00 The whole family, the whole village witnessed. 27:03 - Wow, well, our time is just about up. 27:06 And if you'd like to get more involved with our ministry, 27:10 and Layman ministries go to our website 27:12 at lmn.org very simple website. 27:15 And on that website, 27:16 you can subscribe to our magazines, 27:19 the layman ministries journals, 27:20 a lot of mission stories. 27:22 There's always a lead article 27:23 that's designed for lay people. 27:25 There's a lot of interesting lead articles 27:27 in these like this one's called 27:28 follow the science interesting one on geology. 27:31 And about how scientists ridiculed 27:33 a famous geologist back in the 1920s 27:36 because of his views. 27:37 This is called the new normal 27:38 from a Christian perspective 27:40 or like this one magazine's called lost days, 27:42 the rapture and the Jesuit's very interesting content. 27:45 And also all the mission stories 27:46 and activities of Layman ministries. 27:49 You can find that at Layman ministries, 27:51 that's 414 Zapada Road Saint Maries, 27:54 ID 83861 or on the web at www.lmn.org. 28:01 Pastor Johnson, I'm so glad that you could visit 28:03 us all the way from Chennai, 28:05 Come up here to cold north Idaho, 28:07 spend some time with us and God bless you. 28:09 And we just solicit your prayer. 28:12 Thank you. 28:13 (bright music) |
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